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Sephiroth 14-04-2025 17:02
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36194688)
That would certainly be a turn up for the books, she's previously been found reproducing others' work!
https://www.ft.com/content/e4c190b0-...b-9f680ce1c67f
She obviously copied Truss's work.

Paul 14-04-2025 17:33
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Mr Flip Flop strikes again. :rolleyes:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62z54gwd22o

Quote:
Trump threatens new tariffs on smartphones days after exempting them.

papa smurf 14-04-2025 18:07
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36194693)
Mr Flip Flop strikes again. :rolleyes:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62z54gwd22o
All i can say is it's Monday lets see where we are tomorrow :)

Chris 14-04-2025 18:31
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Sounds like he’s trying to create a loophole to allow iPhones into the country tariff free whilst levying bigly on everything else. I wish I’d been a fly on the wall in the Oval Office when Tim Cook called to school him on exactly what his plans were about to do to Apple.

What an utter moron.

1andrew1 14-04-2025 19:56
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
It's almost a Craig David song

I put the tariffs on, on Wednesday.
Took them off again on Thursday except for China.
I doubled them on China on Friday.
And on Saturday and Sunday too.
I exempted tech goods on Monday.
Said it was only temporary on Tuesday.

Hugh 14-04-2025 20:33
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...e-war-zelensky

Quote:
When asked if he had spoken President Zelensky about his offer to buy more Patriot missiles, Trump added: “Listen, when you start a war, you got to know that you can win the war, right?"

He continued: "You don’t start a war against somebody that’s 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles.”

Damien 14-04-2025 20:36
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
He also said that the missle that hit Ukraine killing dozens a couple of days ago was just 'a mistake'.

thenry 14-04-2025 20:59
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Why doesn't Trump pull out of Ukraine then? Squaring up to Russia isn't going to do any good.

papa smurf 14-04-2025 21:24
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36194714)
Why doesn't Trump pull out of Ukraine then? Squaring up to Russia isn't going to do any good.
why isn't the war over it's been more than 24 hrs

thenry 14-04-2025 21:39
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36194715)
why isn't the war over it's been more than 24 hrs
I would say God bless Zelenskyy.

Paul 15-04-2025 05:38
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
You don’t start a war against somebody that’s 20 times your size.
They didnt, Russia started it.

Everytime Trump opens his mouth he continues to prove once again what a moron he is.

Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36194714)
Why doesn't Trump pull out of Ukraine then?
Huh ? Trump isnt in Ukraine :confused:

Anonymouse 15-04-2025 06:24
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Has anyone mentioned censorship in UK libraries caused by the US? They're complaining about LGBTQ+ content.

Listen 'ere, you orange git: THE US HAS NO JURISDICTION OVER THE UK. NONE WHATSOEVER. (That's in case Echelon is watching, in which case, SC**W YOU, ECHELON!) We will read what we bloody well want to read.

The US seems to think now that it rules the world. Uh-uh.

Reminded of ROTS:

"The Senate will decide your fate."
"I am the Senate!"
"Not yet! "

Hugh 15-04-2025 07:42
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://wapo.st/4jCzA3H

Quote:
Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele said Monday that he does not plan to return a Maryland man whom the Trump administration mistakenly deported to his country, as the U.S. judicial system barrels toward a potential constitutional crisis over the standoff.

“How can I return him to the United States?” Bukele said in an Oval Office meeting with President Donald Trump, responding to a reporter’s question. “I smuggle him into the United States? Of course I’m not going to do it. The question is preposterous. How can I smuggle a terrorist into the United States?”

Kilmar Abrego García, a Salvadoran immigrant who is married to a U.S. citizen, was deported last month to El Salvador’s brutal mega-prison, CECOT. His case has become a focal point of the Trump administration’s attempt to deport more than 1 million immigrants from the United States — and the court battles over the legality of that campaign. The Supreme Court on Thursday backed a lower-court order that requires the White House to “facilitate” the release of Abrego García, but the justices stopped short of saying a lower-court judge could order the administration to “effectuate” his return.

Trump officials suggested Monday that the administration was not bound to follow court orders to return Abrego García from El Salvador.

“No court in the United States has a right to conduct the foreign policy of the United States,” Secretary of State Marco Rubio said during the Oval Office meeting. But the administration in court proceedings also has conceded that Abrego García’s removal was the result of an “administrative error.”…

… Trump also told reporters Monday that he was open to deporting U.S. citizens if they had committed violent, criminal acts.

“If it’s a homegrown criminal, I have no problem,” Trump said in the Oval Office. “We’re studying the laws right now. Pam [Bondi, the attorney general] is studying. If we can do that, that’s good.”…

… The Trump administration had acknowledged in court proceedings that Abrego García was subject to a withholding order forbidding his removal to El Salvador — and that the removal to El Salvador was therefore illegal. But government attorneys said Sunday night that the administration is not required to engage El Salvador’s government in efforts to facilitate Abrego García’s return, arguing that he “is no longer eligible” for the protection from deportation that should have prevented him from being sent to El Salvador in the first place.

thenry 15-04-2025 09:55
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36194717)
Huh ? Trump isnt in Ukraine :confused:
The US are offering assistance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crew8y7pwd5o

1andrew1 15-04-2025 10:06
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Behind the rhetoric, US debt is growing and Trump's spending more than Biden.
Quote:
A bigger hole: Trump has already spent $155bn more than Biden. Musk now claims DOGE only saved $150bn

The Trump administration has already spent $155 billion more than former President Joe Biden did over the same period of time after their inaugurations, according to Treasury Department data. And Elon Musk is now claiming that his Department of Government Efficiency has only managed to save $150 billion.

That means that despite tens of thousands of government workers being fired, agencies shuttered, contracts cut and federal services dramatically reduced, the current administration has already racked up an additional $5 billion of debt than the Biden administration in the same space of time.

And it’s not clear that DOGE has saved anywhere near $150 billion. Every time Musk posts “receipts” to show off DOGE’s savings, they’re riddled with errors.

He initially vowed to save $2 trillion by slashing government agencies and social benefits, than halved that to $1 trillion. Now he claims he has only cut a fraction of that.

The increased spending by the Trump administration was discovered in an analysis by the Wall Street Journal of daily financial statements issued by the Treasury Department.

Costs are continuing to climb even as Trump and the Republicans aim to negotiate a $5 trillion tax cut that’s expected to add an additional $5.7 trillion to the government’s debt over the next decade. The current debt is already $37.3 trillion.

Many of the government’s costs are fixed social benefits that continue to climb. Social Security is now paying a cost-of-living boost and an increase in the number of retiring baby boomers. Another huge cost is servicing the federal debt.

The highest payments in 2024 were Social Security at $1.5 trillion, interest on the debt at $881 billion, the Department of Defense at $807 billion and Medicare at $865 billion.

Social Security payments are $32.7 billion higher since Trump took office. The U.S. has also paid out $25.5 billion more in interest on the debt since Trump returned to the White House than in the same period last year, the Journal reports.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...fbac6c95&ei=22

Paul 15-04-2025 15:52
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36194718)
Has anyone mentioned censorship in UK libraries caused by the US? They're complaining about LGBTQ+ content.
Nope, no one has mentioned anything, then again, complaining does not equal censorship.

1andrew1 15-04-2025 16:16
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36194717)
Huh ? Trump isnt in Ukraine :confused:
He never will whilst Russia's still at war with it. He simply hasn't got the bottle to visit a country being bombed and the tolerance to hear views on the war that differ from those of Putin.

Hugh 15-04-2025 16:25
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36194733)
He never will whilst Russia's still at war with it. He simply hasn't got the bottle and the tolerance to hear views on the war that differ from those of Putin.
And on that point…

https://meduza.io/en/news/2025/04/15...rike-bloomberg

Quote:
The Trump administration has told Washington's G7 allies that it won’t support a statement condemning Russia’s recent missile strike on the Ukrainian city of Sumy, saying that it's “working to preserve the space to negotiate peace,” Bloomberg reports.

Canada, which currently holds the G7 presidency, told other members that without U.S. backing, issuing the statement would not be possible, according to Bloomberg’s sources.

A draft of the statement reportedly described the attack on Sumy as proof that Russia was determined to continue the war.

Russia’s attack on Sumy, which it carried out on Palm Sunday, killed at least 35 civilians and injured at least 119, according to Ukrainian authorities.

1andrew1 15-04-2025 17:00
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36194734)
Quote:
The Trump administration has told Washington's G7 allies that it won’t support a statement condemning Russia’s recent missile strike on the Ukrainian city of Sumy...
Exactly, Putin's useless idiot is entirely predictable here as he is unpredictable on tariffs.

Anonymouse 16-04-2025 04:03
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36194732)
Nope, no one has mentioned anything, then again, complaining does not equal censorship.
It does when they're doing it in the US. They're removing any such content from their libraries and requesting (demanding?) that we do it, too. Well, they know what they can do with that idea. People have fought and died for the right to be whatever they choose to be, and will be damned if they'll give it up. Myself, I'm cis-male and hetero, but I don't give a toss that other people aren't.

On a brighter note, Harvard has refused the government's demands - and rightly so IMO. They hold that no government has any right to dictate what will and won't be taught. I agree.

Pierre 16-04-2025 10:02
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36194739)
It does when they're doing it in the US. They're removing any such content from their libraries and requesting (demanding?) that we do it, too.
For fear of crossing over into an adjacent thread, I don't think that is an issue here, and as far as I was aware the objection was having such material in US schools, not general libraries.

pip08456 16-04-2025 11:31
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
White House: China now faces up to a 245% (!) tariff on imports to the United States as a result of its retaliatory actions.

Trump: "CHINA WILL PAY 1 BILLION PERCENT IN TARIFFS UNLESS IT SHOWS THAT I'M WINNING''

The guy's a moron.

papa smurf 16-04-2025 12:24
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36194753)
White House: China now faces up to a 245% (!) tariff on imports to the United States as a result of its retaliatory actions.

Trump: "CHINA WILL PAY 1 BILLION PERCENT IN TARIFFS UNLESS IT SHOWS THAT I'M WINNING''

The guy's a moron.
Should change his name to Dullard Trump

Itshim 16-04-2025 14:29
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36194753)
White House: China now faces up to a 245% (!) tariff on imports to the United States as a result of its retaliatory actions.

Trump: "CHINA WILL PAY 1 BILLION PERCENT IN TARIFFS UNLESS IT SHOWS THAT I'M WINNING''

The guy's a moron.
I wish people would stop saying the exporters *will pay the tariffs . * ie China. They won't. The importer will.:D

1andrew1 16-04-2025 14:56
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36194768)
I wish people would stop saying the exporters *will pay the tariffs . * ie China. They won't. The importer will.:D
Trump and truth are strange bed fellows so don't expect a change anytime soon.

Hugh 16-04-2025 15:07
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36194768)
I wish people would stop saying the exporters *will pay the tariffs . * ie China. They won't. The importer will.:D
tbf, the only ones saying it are Trump and his acolytes…

pip08456 16-04-2025 16:31
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
‘Diplomats in Washington also report that some Trump aides say privately that they are “fed up” with Europe’s effort to strengthen Ukraine. As always with such a chaotic administration, it is hard to distinguish the true signal from the noise.’

I wonder why they don't want Ukraine to be strengthened?

Itshim 16-04-2025 17:14
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36194772)
tbf, the only ones saying it are Trump and his acolytes…
The reviewer on sky news paper review repeatedly said it last night until corrected :D

Hugh 16-04-2025 17:22
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Whoopsie…

https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...436.81.0_2.pdf

Quote:
the Court ultimately determines that the Government’s actions on that day demonstrate a willful disregard for its Order, sufficient for the Court to conclude that probable cause exists to find the Government in criminal contempt. The Court does not reach such conclusion lightly or hastily; indeed, it has given Defendants ample opportunity to rectify or explain their actions.
None of their responses has been satisfactory.

1andrew1 16-04-2025 18:23
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
More wins for Putin courtesy of his useful idiot
Quote:
Pentagon unit dubbed 'SWAT team of nerds' quits en masse after heated clash with DOGE

A group described as the Pentagon's 'SWAT team of nerds' is quitting the Department of Defense after being pressed by Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency.

The Defense Digital Service was founded in 2015 to bring 'Silicon Valley-style innovation' to the Pentagon.

Director Jennifer Hay said that her team was ready and waiting to be a part of DOGE, helping bring further efficiency to DOD by adopting automation and AI.

'The reason we stuck it out as long as we have is that we thought we were going to be called in,' Hay told Politico.

However, they were instead not used at all and a former Pentagon senior official said that Musk's DOGE working with the Defense Department has been destructive.

'They're not really using AI, they're not really driving efficiency. What they're doing is smashing everything,' the anonymous official said.

DOGE reportedly pressured DDS members to make a decision on their futures and now the entire staff is set to quit over the next month.

Every employee claimed that they would have stuck it out had it not been for DOGE's intrusion.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lash-DOGE.html

papa smurf 16-04-2025 18:30
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36194784)
More wins for Putin courtesy of his useful idiot

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lash-DOGE.html
Trump operates with crayons, so they aint needed

Paul 16-04-2025 18:49
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36194758)
Should change his name to Dullard Trump
I was thinking more like Dumbass Trump.

pip08456 16-04-2025 21:33
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
rump abandons $50 billion deal, saying he has no intention of supplying weapons to Ukraine, even for money — BILD

Although Ukraine desperately needs Patriot air defense systems and associated missiles, the Trump team shows no interest in a potential sale of these systems.

What does Trump want to achieve with this?
More Ukrainian deaths, a Russian victory? Obviously.

And obviously, Trump is putin's whore.

Pierre 16-04-2025 22:53
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36194805)
And obviously, Trump is putin's whore.
I love these type of quotes, from highly educated experts in Geo-politics that can give highly assessed detailed forensic reports about the situations we face.

I sleep at night better.

Damien 17-04-2025 08:59
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36194805)
rump abandons $50 billion deal, saying he has no intention of supplying weapons to Ukraine, even for money — BILD

Although Ukraine desperately needs Patriot air defense systems and associated missiles, the Trump team shows no interest in a potential sale of these systems.

What does Trump want to achieve with this?
More Ukrainian deaths, a Russian victory? Obviously.

And obviously, Trump is putin's whore.
The other thing is that Russia still ignores the ceasefire deals that Ukraine agreed to. Trump still doesn't care.

All the Russian apologists have just gone quiet, it was meant to be Ukraine and the west that were the barriers to a deal wasn't it? Pathetic people.

Chris 17-04-2025 09:26
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36194810)
I love these type of quotes, from highly educated experts in Geo-politics that can give highly assessed detailed forensic reports about the situations we face.

I sleep at night better.
As others have observed: we don’t know whether Trump is a Russian asset or not. But if he isn’t, he is nevertheless doing all the things the Russians could ever hope an asset in the White House would do.

1andrew1 17-04-2025 10:48
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36194810)
I love these type of quotes, from highly educated experts in Geo-politics that can give highly assessed detailed forensic reports about the situations we face.

I sleep at night better.
I wish we could say the same about the Ukranians.

Hugh 17-04-2025 11:09
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
1 Attachment(s)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1744884308

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2025/04/3.gif

1andrew1 17-04-2025 11:36
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Trump's morals don't have a bottom!

Now he's trying to weaponise the rape and murder of someone to try and win the PR battle against someone whom the courts acknowledge was wrongly deported to El Salvador and had no connection to the murder.

https://news.sky.com/story/bereaved-...tters-13350297

Hugh 18-04-2025 11:43
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...ld-2025-04-17/

Quote:
Summary

- SpaceX is leading a bid to build Golden Dome with startups Anduril and Palantir, six people said
- The SpaceX-led group is pitching the Pentagon on a 'subscription model' for missile defense, sources said
- SpaceX proposes a constellation of 400 to more than 1,000 missile defense satellites, sources said
A "subscription model"?

What could possibly go wrong?

@steveparks.bsky.social

Quote:
“Hello valued customer.

Given the outbreak of war, surge pricing means this year’s subscription will now be 10x the price.

Or you could opt for our new budget plan which blocks 10% of missiles, and plays ads to cities under attack.”
What could go wrong with a group of sociopathic broligarchs having control of a fleet of satellites armed with lasers?

1andrew1 18-04-2025 12:18
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36194873)
https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...ld-2025-04-17/

A "subscription model"?

What could possibly go wrong?

@steveparks.bsky.social

What could go wrong with a group of sociopathic broligarchs having control of a fleet of satellites armed with lasers?
Shouldn't this be in the Black Mirror thread?

Hugh 19-04-2025 15:27
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2735728.html

Quote:
President Donald Trump has long claimed that South American governments are sending violent gang members to the U.S. as a justification for his mass deportation efforts. But U.S. intelligence has found that that isn’t the case.

The National Intelligence Council, using findings from the 18 intelligence agencies, found in a secret assessment earlier this month that the Venezuelan government isn’t sending members of the prison gang Tren de Aragua to the U.S., according to The Washington Post.

The findings go against Trump’s rationale for the use of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to deport those suspected of being gang members. The legislation was most recently used during World War II to detain more than 110,000 Japanese Americans.

Hugh 21-04-2025 00:10
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
1 Attachment(s)
Somebody obviously wasn’t visited by the Easter Bunny…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1745190585

Paul 21-04-2025 00:56
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I think hes overdue a visit by Freddy Krueger.

Stephen 21-04-2025 03:53
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
He is absolutely certifiable, a complete crackpot and a delusional old man. If anyone believes the bs in that post then they are just as bad.

Pierre 21-04-2025 07:22
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36195028)
He is absolutely certifiable, a complete crackpot and a delusional old man. If anyone believes the bs in that post then they are just as bad.
You mean the last US administration didn’t have an open border policy in the South?

1andrew1 21-04-2025 08:42
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36195029)
You mean the last US administration didn’t have an open border policy in the South?
Who's going to tell him that Father Christmas is not real, either? ;)

Hugh 21-04-2025 08:44
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36195029)
You mean the last US administration didn’t have an open border policy in the South?
The Cato Institute*, a Right-Wing libertarian think-tank, doesn’t think so…

https://www.cato.org/blog/biden-didn...part-1-summary

Quote:
Biden Didn’t Cause the Border Crisis, Part 1: Summary

During President Joe Biden’s term, Border Patrol arrested an unprecedented number of immigrants who crossed illegally into the United States. Many believe Biden caused this increase in migration by reducing border enforcement. However, data obtained by the Cato Institute through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) challenges this narrative. In fact, the border crisis began before Biden took office and ended before he left.

From his administration’s first day in January 2021, Biden actually increased border enforcement—arrests, detentions, and removals of border crossers all increased. The prevailing narrative that blames Biden overlooks the real causes of the crisis: America’s robust labor market and bad immigration policies that incentivized illegal entries. However, Trump, not Biden, mostly started those policies. Biden eventually phased out some of them; he increased legal migration, and as the labor market cooled, the problem dissipated.

Summary

The main takeaways are:

- Illegal immigration had already increased to a 21-year high before Biden entered office.
- Biden immediately started increasing expulsions from his first day in office.
- Biden tripled interior detention and increased border detention 12-fold.
- Biden increased air removal flights by 55 percent over 2020 levels.
- Biden negotiated broader expulsion deals with foreign countries than Trump.
- Biden got many foreign countries to carry out crackdowns on illegal and legal migration.
- Biden removed or expelled 3.3 million border crossers—three times as many as Trump.
- Biden even managed to remove a similar percentage of crossers as Trump’s four years.
Quote:
About Cato

For more than 40 years, Cato has led the charge for liberty in our nation and around the world. The Cato Institute is a public policy research organization—or think tank—that creates a presence for and promotes libertarian ideas in policy debates.

Our mission is to keep the principles, ideas, and moral case for liberty alive for future generations, while moving public policy in the direction of individual liberty, limited government, free markets, and peace.

Pierre 21-04-2025 09:10
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
It’s a moving target.

This stat is interesting though.

Quote:
Between October 2019 and June 2024, US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) reported just under 11 million border encounters nationwide. That’s roughly equivalent to the current population of North Carolina, the ninth most populous state.

Monthly encounters peaked with over 370,000 people in December 2023. That month, CBP encountered nearly 12,000 people at the border every day. That's more than eight people every minute.

December 2023 encounters were approximately 70% of the total encounters in 2017 (which was around 527,000).
So one month in 2023 was 70% of the entire of 2017

https://usafacts.org/articles/what-c...d-immigration/

Add into that, that no one really knows the true number, but it’s almost certainly more, not less.

1andrew1 21-04-2025 10:31
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36195034)
It’s a moving target.

This stat is interesting though.

So one month in 2023 was 70% of the entire of 2017

https://usafacts.org/articles/what-c...d-immigration/

Add into that, that no one really knows the true number, but it’s almost certainly more, not less.
What we do know is that Trump's assertion that Biden had an open border policy in the South is wrong.

Sephiroth 21-04-2025 11:03
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
We also know that market style doing deals doesn't work when you're the only one doing it.

The world is big enough to give two fingers to the USA government. However, the world needs to see the light, which they're not doing - yet.

Hugh 21-04-2025 11:51
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
But Trump doesn't do "market style deals", because he believes in zero-sum deals (if he wins, someone has to lose, and be seen to lose) - that's not how international trading markets works.

Trump not only has to be seen to be winning, he wants to show (and announce) that others lose, showing that he is the best, and knows more than anyone else (you know, like ISIS, the courts, lawsuits, the visa system, trade, the US Government system, renewable energy, taxes, debt, the economy, drones, technology, drone technology, etc.)

Also, as we have seen recently, trying to make a deal with Trump depends on who he speaks to last, so can change day to day - he can't be trusted to keep his word (and at this time, Trump is the US Government - his motto appears to be "l'état, c'est moi*").

*Which is quite ironic because around 250 years ago, the US revolted against a King, because of things like
- He has refused his Assent to Laws
- He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
- He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance
- For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
- For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
- He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us

Maggy 21-04-2025 16:29
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I'm getting fed up with the spread the reputation around a bit more rule..

Russ 21-04-2025 16:42
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
The problem, and surely even the most rabid Trumpanzees can see, is that having the world’s biggest narcissist in such a high position of power is as dangerous as it gets

papa smurf 21-04-2025 16:45
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36195063)
I'm getting fed up with the spread the reputation around a bit more rule..
How is that linked to president Trump?

Russ 21-04-2025 16:47
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36195065)
How is that linked to president Trump?
I'm guessing Maggy was really impressed with a previous post (perhaps the one just before hers) and is unable to rep it due to having repped the poster already.

You know, just a guess.

papa smurf 21-04-2025 17:04
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36195066)
I'm guessing Maggy was really impressed with a previous post (perhaps the one just before hers) and is unable to rep it due to having repped the poster already.

You know, just a guess.
Ah well the system stops us having favourites and ignoring everyone else.

Paul 21-04-2025 17:48
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Back to the topic please.

Sephiroth 21-04-2025 19:03
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36195064)
The problem, and surely even the most rabid Trumpanzees can see, is that having the world’s biggest narcissist in such a high position of power is as dangerous as it gets
I agree.

Hugh 21-04-2025 21:24
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kristi-...dc-restaurant/

Quote:
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem's purse was stolen Sunday night at a Washington, D.C. restaurant. At the time, the bag contained a number of sensitive personal items including Noem's driver's license, passport, DHS access badge, checks and roughly $3,000 in cash, according to three sources briefed, including two law enforcement officials.

The Secret Service is reviewing security camera footage at the restaurant and has identified a White male suspect who was allegedly wearing a medical mask during the theft. The individual was not immediately spotted by her Secret Service detail, with the bag being discovered lost by Noem herself.

Noem was dining at The Capital Burger, a popular and busy locale near DC's downtown. Her purse was placed against her foot underneath her seat, according to two sources familiar.

Hugh 21-04-2025 21:40
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
1 Attachment(s)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1745267986

Damien 21-04-2025 21:46
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36195105)
Thankfully nothing that concerning from a national security pov although sucks for her and a bit of a failing from the secret service. I guess they had their eyes on her rather than the bag under the seat but someone would have had to have gotten quite close...

Stephen 21-04-2025 22:10
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36195106)
He is looking forward to accommodating funeral, weird. Talk about an unwelcome guest.

Sephiroth 22-04-2025 12:01
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36195112)
He is looking forward to accommodating funeral, weird. Talk about an unwelcome guest.
... Talk about picking nits.

thenry 22-04-2025 12:21
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
It might be a dig at Biden missing the Queen's funeral.

Damien 22-04-2025 13:35
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36195147)
It might be a dig at Biden missing the Queen's funeral.
He was at the Queen's Funeral.

Hugh 22-04-2025 13:48
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36195144)
... Talk about picking nits.
Talk about defending the indefensible…

I have never heard anyone say they are looking forward to attending a funeral - it’s not a thing normal people say.

thenry 22-04-2025 14:00
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36195170)
He was at the Queen's Funeral.
Oops. I meant the Kings coronation :dunce: which makes my point invalid.

Hugh 22-04-2025 14:05
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36195177)
Oops. I meant the Kings coronation :dunce: which makes my point invalid.
No US president has attended the coronation of a British monarch - however, Biden did attend the late Queen’s funeral, the time a US leader had been present for a British state funeral.

thenry 22-04-2025 14:26
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36195178)
No US president has attended the coronation of a British monarch - however, Biden did attend the late Queen’s funeral, the time a US leader had been present for a British state funeral.
Trump said he would have gone and Biden couldn't handle the schedule.

Did you mean Bidens attendance at the funeral was the first for a sitting president of America?

TheDaddy 22-04-2025 15:07
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36195179)
Trump said he would have gone and Biden couldn't handle the schedule.

Did you mean Bidens attendance at the funeral was the first for a sitting president of America?
They don't go to coronations for a specific reason...

Damien 22-04-2025 15:14
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
To be fair in history there are really only three coronations it would have been realistic for a sitting US President to attend anyway.

thenry 22-04-2025 15:24
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
What is realistic?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36195180)
They don't go to coronations for a specific reason...
Care to share the reasoning?

Sephiroth 22-04-2025 15:34
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36195185)
What is realistic?



Care to share the reasoning?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65419766

Quote:
.... Russell Myers, royal editor at the Mirror newspaper, also told Sky News that the president's absence was due to his being "staunchly proud of his Irish roots, his Irish American roots".

"I didn't think it was a real possibility that he would come," Mr Myers said., external

But historians say the reason is far less political, and that it's actually a centuries-long tradition for American presidents to miss the coronation.

Damien 22-04-2025 16:06
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Before George VI's coronation a visiting US President's attendance would require sailing across the Atlantic, making it quite difficult. Even for George VI, transatlantic flight was in its infancy.

The only two realistic coronations for them to have attended were the last two. The Queen's reign was so long that the idea you could fly to Europe was novel when she was crowned. There isn't much to read into their continuation of the traditional, albeit forced on them due to the distance, of not attending.

Hugh 23-04-2025 18:24
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
1 Attachment(s)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1745428605

Someone is a little confused - he sued Perkins Coie in Florida two years ago in a case* before another Judge (Judge Middlebrooks), that has already been dismissed, and which resulted in sanctions against him and Alina Habba, his lawyer.

Perkins Coie is suing Trump in Judge Howell’s court over his retaliatory executive order.

* https://www.reuters.com/legal/trump-...tm_term=012023

Hugh 24-04-2025 18:55
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
1 Attachment(s)
Today’s wibble…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1745517259

Paul 24-04-2025 19:43
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Once again he just proves what a complete lunatic he is.

Pierre 24-04-2025 21:24
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Ramblings aside.

Harvard have taken action because he is withholding 2Billion ( eye watering amount) of US tax payers money because of their political pro-Hamas and anti-Semitic leanings.

Why US tax payers are financing a private university that already has a 50 billion endowment is perplexing.

Hugh 25-04-2025 08:52
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://i.imgur.com/FPFwUWg.gif

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36193401)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh

<various evidence and links on another subject>

Feel free to provide evidence of the "widespread fraud and abuse" in the SSA that Musk speaks of…
No thanks, I just like making you work.

Maggy 25-04-2025 10:06
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36195364)
Once again he just proves what a complete lunatic he is.
:tu:

1andrew1 25-04-2025 10:21
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36195372)
Ramblings aside.

Harvard have taken action because he is withholding 2Billion ( eye watering amount) of US tax payers money because of their political pro-Hamas and anti-Semitic leanings.
I hope this is just mildly humorous trolling and you aren't repeating Trumpski's latest rambling in the naive belief it is true.

Hugh 25-04-2025 14:09
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I wonder if part of the U.K.-USA Trade Deal will involve chickens?

https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...S_seattle-news

Quote:
The Agriculture Department will not require poultry companies to limit salmonella bacteria in their products, halting a Biden Administration effort to prevent food poisoning from contaminated meat.

The department on Thursday said it was withdrawing a rule proposed in August after three years of development. Officials with the USDA’s Food Safety and Inspection Service cited feedback from more than 7,000 public comments and said they would “evaluate whether it should update” current salmonella regulations.

The rule would have required poultry companies to keep levels of salmonella bacteria under a certain threshold and test for the presence of six strains most associated with illness, including three found in turkey and three in chicken. If the levels exceeded the standard or any of those strains were found, the poultry couldn’t be sold and would be subject to recall, the proposal had said.

The plan aimed to reduce an estimated 125,000 salmonella infections from chicken and 43,000 from turkey each year, according to USDA. Overall, salmonella causes 1.35 million infections a year, most through food, and about 420 deaths, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

TheDaddy 25-04-2025 14:24
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36195397)
I wonder if part of the U.K.-USA Trade Deal will involve chickens?
Kind of hope there isn't one, donnie can't be trusted to keep his word regarding them anyway so what's the point

Hugh 25-04-2025 14:37
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Good news - we will find out about the 200 Trade Deals Trump has done by the 23rd of May 2025…

https://time.com/7280114/donald-trum...ew-transcript/

Quote:
Your trade adviser, Peter Navarro, says 90 deals in 90 days is possible. We're now 13 days into the point from when you lifted the reciprocal, the discounted reciprocal tariffs. There's zero deals so far. Why is that?

No, there’s many deals.

When are they going to be announced?

You have to understand, I'm dealing with all the companies, very friendly countries. We're meeting with China. We're doing fine with everybody. But ultimately, I've made all the deals.

Not one has been announced yet. When are you going to announce them?

I’ve made 200 deals.

You’ve made 200 deals?

100%.
Quote:
I’m just curious, why don’t you announce these deals that you’ve solidified?

I would say, over the next three to four weeks, and we're finished, by the way.

You’re finished?

We’ll be finished.

Oh, you will be finished in three to four weeks.

I’ll be finished.

Russ 25-04-2025 16:16
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Interviews with Orange Face are starting to sound like the scene from The Holy Grail, where the two guys guard the prince.

Hugh 25-04-2025 16:30
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
1 Attachment(s)
https://eu.jsonline.com/story/news/b.../83270885007/#

Quote:
Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan was arrested April 25 by federal authorities who are investigating whether she tried to help an undocumented immigrant avoid arrest after he appeared in her courtroom last week, officials confirmed.

Dugan is scheduled to appear before U.S. Magistrate Judge Stephen Dries at 10:30 a.m. April 25 on the second floor of the Federal Courthouse in downtown Milwaukee, according to two federal sources.

Brady McCarron, spokesman for U.S. Marshals Service in Washington, D.C., confirmed Dugan was arrested at about 8 a.m. at the Milwaukee County Courthouse and is in federal custody.

FBI Director Kash Patel posted on X about the arrest. He later deleted the post.

"Just NOW, the FBI arrested Judge Hannah Dugan out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin on charges of obstruction — after evidence of Judge Dugan obstructing an immigration arrest operation last week," Patel wrote. "We believe Judge Dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be arrested in her courthouse, Eduardo Flores Ruiz, allowing the subject — an illegal alien — to evade arrest."
Tweet that was posted by the FBI Director Kash Patel, then deleted…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...6&d=1745594975

Paul 25-04-2025 17:50
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Ok ..... how is this related to Trump ?

Hugh 25-04-2025 19:10
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
It’s part of Trump’s FBI Director and Attorney General’s on-going spats with the Judiciary, because they won’t just bend over…

Paul 25-04-2025 22:26
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Are you suggesting they have made this up ?
If the Judge did what is alleged, then it was illegal, right ?

Damien 26-04-2025 07:36
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36195437)
Are you suggesting they have made this up ?
If the Judge did what is alleged, then it was illegal, right ?
It would be, but it's if you trust they're telling the truth.

The last few weeks the Trump administration has been clashing with judges, stopping them from deporting people without cause. They've threatened to remove them even though they don't have that power.

Now one of the ones who gave a decision they didn't like is arrested by the FBI and the FBI director himself is the one who gloats about it before then removing the tweet?

Hugh 26-04-2025 08:50
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
And then the Attorney-General goes on to Fox News and states
Quote:
“[Judges] are deranged, is all I can think of."

"I think some of these judges think that they are beyond and above the law, and they are not. And we’re sending a very strong message today: If you are harboring a fugitive, we don’t care who you are. ... We will come after you and we will prosecute you. We will find you.”
And Trump said last month

Quote:
“Radical Left Judges could very well lead to the destruction of our Country! These people are Lunatics, who do not care, even a little bit, about the repercussions from their very dangerous and incorrect Decisions and Rulings. ... The danger is unparalleled!”
There’s a worrying pattern emerging…

Pierre 26-04-2025 10:09
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36195452)

There’s a worrying pattern emerging…
When he’s cleared them out of the US, he can come over here and clear out the ones we have.

Itshim 26-04-2025 10:13
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36195455)
When he’s cleared them out of the US, he can come over here and clear out the ones we have.
Please :monkey:

Mr K 26-04-2025 19:18
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Donald Trump turned on Vladimir Putin after holding one-on-one talks with Volodymyr Zelensky in St Peter’s Basilica at Pope Francis’ funeral on Saturday.

He accused the Russian president of stringing him along in negotiations to end the war in Ukraine and warned he was prepared to hit Moscow with fresh sanctions.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...elines-of-fun/

Do you think Tango Man has just worked out Vlad is the baddie? Who'd have thunk it ?

papa smurf 26-04-2025 20:24
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36195505)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...elines-of-fun/

Do you think Tango Man has just worked out Vlad is the baddie? Who'd have thunk it ?
I think Putin knows Trump is all mouth and will do nothing to hurt him

Chris 26-04-2025 20:31
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36195505)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...elines-of-fun/

Do you think Tango Man has just worked out Vlad is the baddie? Who'd have thunk it ?
Trump is thick as two short planks and when caught in a room alone with someone is susceptible to whatever they say to him. He will quite like Zelenskyy and Ukraine until he meets Witkoff to find out how things went in Moscow. Then he’ll be back to sucking up to Vlad.

Maggy 27-04-2025 13:56
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36195521)
Trump is thick as two short planks and when caught in a room alone with someone is susceptible to whatever they say to him. He will quite like Zelenskyy and Ukraine until he meets Witkoff to find out how things went in Moscow. Then he’ll be back to sucking up to Vlad.
:tu:

I agree totally.

Hugh 28-04-2025 15:19
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
1 Attachment(s)
I see Donald is doing his bit to get the voters out in Canada today…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1745849931

Stephen 28-04-2025 15:26
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
The biggest negative is that orange buffoon. He really is all kinds of crazy.


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