Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36207736)

Labour, the party of very big sticks and no carrots ;)

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36207760)

Its increasingly worrying just how incredibly stupid these people are.

When are they going to learn that people will NOT just give their IDs to random companies to "check".

Once again, people will just bypass this by using more "dodgy" VPNs (or just make your own, I have two of my own).
Plus of course, as I have said repeatedly, you dont need a VPN for browsing, you can just use a proxy server (public, paid, or your own).

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36207768)

Suicidal Government, it's almost like they KNOW they're incompetent, and are pushing to actively lose the next (or an early) election and get back to the easier snide sniping from the back benches :D

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36207858)

You should never take notice of experts, it's almost as crazy as using Facebook as the best source of 'up to date' information on football or politics.

Just look what 'experts' have done to us over the last 10 years or so ;)

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36207877)

Obviously there needs to be regular reminders ;)

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36207883)

Once again, just utter nonsense.
How many time does this need to be said, you cannot just "monitor" what a VPN is being used for.
These morons really need to get a dictionary and look up "Private".

Saying its illegal to use one for certain purposes is meaningless, its like saying you cannot smoke in your house anymore, short of coming into your house to watching you, know one is going to know.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36207895)

There is actually a country (can't remember which) that banned smoking indoors, including in one's own home!

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36207883)

Once again, just utter nonsense.
How many time does this need to be said, you cannot just "monitor" what a VPN is being used for.
These morons really need to get a dictionary and look up "Private".

Saying its illegal to use one for certain purposes is meaningless, its like saying you cannot smoke in your house anymore, short of coming into your house to watching you, know one is going to know.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36207853)

The desire to limit the use of VPN's to stop people bypassing restrictions (and using other countries for streaming purposes) appears to be spreading around the world:

https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-pr...ts-are-worried

Experts said to be worried.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36207928)

We’ve all been pointing this out from the beginning. It really shouldn’t be news to anyone following the posts on this forum.

Even when this problem becomes apparent to most people, this government will continue in denial and leave it to the next government to drop it so they can protest about how dreadful it all is that children are unprotected.

You know, just as they are now.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36207933)

Whether one agrees with it or not, the OSA has all party support & looks to be spreading to other parts of the world.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36207933)

Whether one agrees with it or not, the OSA has all party support & looks to be spreading to other parts of the world.

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36207945)

The offended must be loving this. They keep screaming we want more and this clown show of a government caves in to them.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36208007)

The stated aims of the OSA (and other variations in other countries) have nothing to do with adults 'being offended'.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36208007)

The stated aims of the OSA (and other variations in other countries) have nothing to do with adults 'being offended'.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36208007)

The stated aims of the OSA (and other variations in other countries) have nothing to do with adults 'being offended'.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36207933)

Whether one agrees with it or not, the OSA has all party support & looks to be spreading to other parts of the world.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36208027)

No, it doesn’t. Reform UK doesn’t support it. The only party that is talking any sense at the moment.

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36208020)

Yet it's offending adults :shrug: :smokin:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36208031)

Reform don't count as they weren't around when it was discussed & passed in Parliament.

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Some people may find it inconvenient, unnecessary etc, but in what way do you think it's causing offence to anybody? It was a very strange term to use.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36208044)

Denmark decides against VPN ban:

https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-pr...ublic-backlash

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36208027)

No, it doesn’t. Reform UK doesn’t support it. The only party that is talking any sense at the moment.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36208044)

Denmark decides against VPN ban:

https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-pr...ublic-backlash

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36208063)

You said it had ‘all party support’. I was pointing out that it doesn’t, which is correct.

Farage has pledged to abolish it when they come to power, as almost certainly, they will. Therefore, it’s absolutely relevant.

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At least they must understand that would be completely ineffective.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36208068)

Privacy concerns & curtailing internet freedom were the official reasons given.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36208063)

You said it had ‘all party support’. I was pointing out that it doesn’t, which is correct.

Farage has pledged to abolish it when they come to power, as almost certainly, they will. Therefore, it’s absolutely relevant.

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At least they must understand that would be completely ineffective.

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36208856)

A lot of she and women words. Aren't blokes victims too?

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36209083)

Social Media presence . . no thanks.

Spent most of my life trying to avoid idiots, shysters, University educated tosspots, and the 'Walter Mitty' type people . . not to mention experts who mainly tell you what you already know.

No way am I now going to actively go looking for them :D

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36209096)

Just asking is this site classed as social media:confused:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36209096)

Just asking is this site classed as social media:confused:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36209096)

Just asking is this site classed as social media:confused:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36209096)

Just asking is this site classed as social media:confused:

Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36209072)

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36209752)

I thought this was all about keeping kids safe, not preventing consenting adults from watching some online rumpy pumpy :shrug:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36209745)

I wonder why Pornhub are to restrict access from the UK from next week? They say it's because the Online Safety Act will lead to people accessing more harmful content as they've lost 77% of traffic from the UK.

But what good will this do to help? Is it to get people to register an account, a publicity stunt or to encourage more people to use a VPN and, therefore, as users are not officially living here, none of the restrictions on inappropriate porn (like strangulation) will apply to them??

Edit: A discussion on Radio 4 concluded that the real reasons are the first and last suggestions and because they are adverse to regulation.

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36209755)

It's cheaper not to bother.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36209753)

Exactly, which is why I think there's more to it than what Pornhub are making out.

I think it's primarily a publicity stunt/free advertising as, despite blocking non registered users in the UK, all those that want this material need to do is register with Pornhub or, as Steohen says, use a VPN.

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36209752)

I thought this was all about keeping kids safe, not preventing consenting adults from watching some online rumpy pumpy :shrug:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36209776)

Nope, its the UK wanting to control everything you do on the internet. Imgur have banned us (the UK), other sites have banned us, more are/will eventually follow, as our dictators insist on more and more "checks". We are becoming an online pariah.

Originally Posted by damien c (Post 36209758)

Weren't you one of the people who wanted anything 18+ to be locked behind proving your age for the sake of "Protecting the children"?

So the UK Dictatorship I think has told Pornhub "You must force registrations or face a ban" so they are now going to force registration but anyone who has any common sense will refuse to register since Pornhub recently was hacked and data of registered members stolen.

Yet another reason to look into leaving this hell hole of a country.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36209780)

Are you happy with a situation where children are able to easily access pornograpic conten

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36209780)

Are you happy with a situation where children are able to easily access pornograpic conten, or do you think that it is what it is and nothing can be done?

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36209782)

That excuse it getting very tired now, and is just BS.
Just like the age old BS of "we are restricting your access in the interests of security".

Children can still access pornograpic content if they so wish, and always have been, long before the internet even existed. So yes, it is what it is.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36209792)

Responsible parenting is obviously a good thing, but what about those who have parents that are unable or willing to take responsibility and those who simply couldn't care less? Society puts in place laws to try and protect their children too.

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36209794)

Don't we have well paid highly educated people in something called 'social services' to identify children with 'couldn't care less' parents?

On the other side of the coin, parents are aware they could face fines and/or a custodial sentence for clipping their obnoxious miss-behaving brat around the ear, and teachers have no control at school over disruptive little shits in the classroom.

Laws to protect children, that basically give them free reign to do what they want :dozey:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36209780)

Are you happy with a situation where children are able to easily access pornograpic conten, or do you think that it is what it is and nothing can be done?

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36209794)

Don't we have well paid highly educated people in something called 'social services' to identify children with 'couldn't care less' parents?

On the other side of the coin, parents are aware they could face fines and/or a custodial sentence for clipping their obnoxious miss-behaving brat around the ear, and teachers have no control at school over disruptive little shits in the classroom.

Laws to protect children, that basically give them free reign to do what they want :dozey:

Originally Posted by damien c (Post 36209806)

Here is the thing that people seem to forget, I am 40 years old now, I was able to watch Porn, look at naked images of women from about the age of 2 if I wanted to why you might ask?

Well quite simply there were videos available, there were magazines available, there was Page 3, do you know why I didn't go looking for it?

Simple answer is we were not being told from the age of 5 about sex in school, unlike what is happening around the world today.

I could from an early age access the internet, I could look for porn if I wanted to, but I didn't because I had no interest in it, I also didn't what a clip round the back of the head of my parents for looking at something I had no business looking at, you see my parents were actually allowed to raise me the way they felt was right, they were also allowed to discipline me the way they felt was right, that made damn sure I knew that if I did something wrong I was going to be caught and I would be in trouble.

The difference is now, you are not allowed to raise your kids the way you see fit, you are not allowed to discipline your kids, you are not allowed to say no to your kids, because if you do, they go running to a school teacher and you find yourself under investigation for child abuse.

We also didn't have back then, teachers trying to teach us from the age of 5 about "Consent" "Rape" "Sex" "Oral Sex" etc etc

https://educationhub.blog.gov.uk/202...0for%20science.




If kids were treated as kids they wouldn't be looking for porn online, they would be playing games either on a computer or they would be outside with their friends, but no we now have to treat kids like they are middle aged adults working a 9-5.

If I ever have kids of my own, I doubt I will, but if I do they will NEVER go into the public or private school system, I will homeschool them and they will not be taught about Sex or anything like that till they are over 14 years old!





I am also quite frankly sick and tired "Oh won't someone think of the children, we must protect the children".

The OSA is not about protecting children, it is about control and nothing more, control what you can see, control what you can do and control what you can say.

Frankly anyone involved in the OSA should be investigated because I am 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999% sure they have money invested in the companies being used for it!

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Exactly this, all the laws are doing is giving kids a free pass to cause havoc and they know they will get away with it because some left wing do gooder will come along and say "They have had a hard life, they were abused by their parents they were told they were not allowed ice cream and money on Roblox".

When kid's have no consequences to their actions you end up with the idiots protesting all the time like the just stop oil clowns, they had no consequences growing up it would seem, so now they think they can vandalise, murder and cause a nuisance and we just have to accept it.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36210668)

Ofcom have asked for my views on children using social media and them using VPN's, when I asked why they wanted this I was told that the views of various people were being sought to feed back to Government because they are considering strengthening the Online Safety Act and banning under 18's from using VPN's.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36210674)

- Limiting infinite scrolling (AKA doom scrolling.)

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36210668)

...and banning under 18's from using VPN's.

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36210671)

Heck, why not just have done with it and ban the sodding internet :rofl:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36210684)

can't wait for the massive u turn on this crock of shyte idea

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36210693)

Yep, will probably get changed to prohibit anyone over the age of 68 being able to claim their pension without written proof of their identity . . from a grandparent

:D

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36210710)

Me? a chatbot? :rofl:

I just say it as I see it . . no rose coloured glasses here.

Not much of what I say is covered with a fresh coat of rainbow paint, or dressed up to be something else, a spade is a spade not a spoonful of sugar ;)

what you see is what you get . . . although the way things are going regarding free speech it won't last much longer :D

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36210710)

Me? a chatbot? :rofl:

I just say it as I see it . . no rose coloured glasses here.

Not much of what I say is covered with a fresh coat of rainbow paint, or dressed up to be something else, a spade is a spade not a spoonful of sugar ;)

what you see is what you get . . . although the way things are going regarding free speech it won't last much longer :D

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36210725)

And that’s the challenge with self-perception (for all of us)

We see ourselves as the Shining Knights of Truth

<pics cut>

whilst not realising how others may perceive us…

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36210736)

A Shining Knight of Truth? . . not in a million years, more like someone who can see beyond the bullshit

and (unlike many who cry about it) I don't give two flying ones about how I'm perceived by others. I'm proud to still be an individual, and have no wish to climb into one of the select boxes that 'society' wants me to fit into.

https://external-content.duckduckgo....bb9&ipo=images

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36210684)

can't wait for the massive u turn on this crock of shyte idea

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36211218)

Reform UK will ditch it in favour of something a lot less draconian.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36211218)

Reform UK will ditch it in favour of something a lot less draconian.

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36211222)

Which would be great if they had any realistic chance of actually winning an election.

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36211222)

Which would be great if they had any realistic chance of actually winning an election.

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36211222)

Which would be great if they had any realistic chance of actually winning an election.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211225)

You have to remember, OB is a big fan of no-hope losers - Johnson, Truss, Reform… ;)