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Media Boy UK 09-09-2022 18:45
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Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36133850)
I don't think Sky have any involvement in it , it's fully owned by Disney now since 21st Century Fox sale completed in March 2019.
Channel was took over as part of a FOX / Disney deal in 2019.

TimeLord2018 12-09-2022 17:51
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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36133857)
Channel was took over as part of a FOX / Disney deal in 2019.
Isn't that what I said.

Mad Max 12-09-2022 20:34
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My contract is up with Virgin in a few weeks, any of you guys threatened to cancel and then received a better deal? Thx.

Jaymoss 12-09-2022 21:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36134049)
My contract is up with Virgin in a few weeks, any of you guys threatened to cancel and then received a better deal? Thx.
think everyone who has has

Aguero9320 12-09-2022 21:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36134049)
My contract is up with Virgin in a few weeks, any of you guys threatened to cancel and then received a better deal? Thx.
Our contract expired in June, but gave our 30-day notice last week. Virgin couldn’t get us below £110, but Sky offered us everything for £97.

Legendkiller2k 13-09-2022 02:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36134049)
My contract is up with Virgin in a few weeks, any of you guys threatened to cancel and then received a better deal? Thx.
When a contract ends mate best advice i can give is aske yourself "do i need it? Do i want it? Can i afford it?"
if you answer no to just one of those questions then you're just wasting money.
A lot of people i know with VM are dropping the tv and just keeping broadband and they have been given good deals on that.

OLD BOY 13-09-2022 11:47
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It will be interesting to see whether the trend in this difficult financial climate will be to drop the pay-TV channels in favour of SVOD streamers or to drop the streamers in favour of TV channels.

Some, of course, will drop pay-TV altogether for the time being.

jfman 13-09-2022 12:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134074)
It will be interesting to see whether the trend in this difficult financial climate will be to drop the pay-TV channels in favour of SVOD streamers or to drop the streamers in favour of TV channels.

Some, of course, will drop pay-TV altogether for the time being.
I’m more interested to see the opposite effect. Disposable streamers dropped in favour of existing incumbents who deliver premium content and greatest value, often alongside a essential services (broadband and mobile) being better able to weather the storm than those losing tens/hundreds of millions a year relying on generous benefactors.

Legendkiller2k 13-09-2022 14:05
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I'm awaiting confirmation on a rumour i've been told that Amazon are looking to make huge cost cuts.

Mad Max 13-09-2022 16:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134061)
When a contract ends mate best advice i can give is aske yourself "do i need it? Do i want it? Can i afford it?"
if you answer no to just one of those questions then you're just wasting money.
A lot of people i know with VM are dropping the tv and just keeping broadband and they have been given good deals on that.
Hi mate, I would definitely like to keep it as I just love my football, if it wasn't for the football I would have probably just gone the BB route and used streamers for the content that we like.

Legendkiller2k 13-09-2022 17:57
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36134082)
Hi mate, I would definitely like to keep it as I just love my football, if it wasn't for the football I would have probably just gone the BB route and used streamers for the content that we like.
A bargaining chip you might be able to use atm mate is SKY are doing SKYsports pack for £18p/m

Mad Max 13-09-2022 19:17
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134087)
A bargaining chip you might be able to use atm mate is SKY are doing SKYsports pack for £18p/m
I've been on their site and the cheapest I can get which is similar to what I have with Virgin is £97.50 when you start to add on BT Sport etc it soon makes their deals very similar to what Virgin offer.

1andrew1 13-09-2022 19:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36134091)
I've been on their site and the cheapest I can get which is similar to what I have with Virgin is £97.50 when you start to add on BT Sport etc it soon makes their deals very similar to what Virgin offer.
What about BT TV? You can now stream most of the Freeview channels without the need for an aerial.
https://www.bt.com/tv/packages

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Netflix is continuing to look more and more like the incumbents.
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Netflix is considering the unthinkable - and that's getting rid of the ability to binge-watch our favourite shows on release day.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainm...ee3533a7e1dad6

Paul 13-09-2022 21:18
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I've never understood why Netflix do that anyway.
Releasing entire seasons in one go always seemed a bizarre thing to do.
I have never binge watched an entire season of anything, I dont have the time.

Jaymoss 13-09-2022 21:24
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I will just wait and binge the series as I do with most things. There are only a couple of things I watch week to week

johnathome 13-09-2022 21:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134078)
I'm awaiting confirmation on a rumour i've been told that Amazon are looking to make huge cost cuts.
I wonder what that is as Amazon reinvest their profits to avoid hefty tax bills.

1andrew1 13-09-2022 21:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36134104)
I've never understood why Netflix do that anyway.
Releasing entire seasons in one go always seemed a bizarre thing to do.
I have never binge watched an entire season of anything, I dont have the time.
I think they did it originally to be different and get a few media headlines. However, they're probably realising that it's best to string out a good series so that people don't binge a series and then cancel till something else they like comes out.

Jaymoss 13-09-2022 22:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36134107)
I think they did it originally to be different and get a few media headlines. However, they're probably realising that it's best to string out a good series so that people don't binge a series and then cancel till something else they like comes out.
How is that going to stop them? wait till it finishes watch it cancel rinse and repeat

Paul 14-09-2022 00:18
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Well a typical Netflix Season is 10 episodes, so to watch it weekly, you would need a 3 month subscription, not one month.

Legendkiller2k 14-09-2022 02:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36134092)
What about BT TV? You can now stream most of the Freeview channels without the need for an aerial.
https://www.bt.com/tv/packages

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Netflix is continuing to look more and more like the incumbents.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainm...ee3533a7e1dad6
Netflix seem to be doing everything they can to push customers away.

SnoopZ 14-09-2022 07:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36134110)
Well a typical Netflix Season is 10 episodes, so to watch it weekly, you would need a 3 month subscription, not one month.
Yes, I can see people only subbing for a month to watch 1 or more shows rather than 3 months if nothing else interests them.

Personally I would rather have the whole season straight away but I can see how this would lose them money.

I may stop paying for Netflix seeing the 1 click app TeaTV is so good with no buffering.

Jaymoss 14-09-2022 08:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36134114)
Yes, I can see people only subbing for a month to watch 1 or more shows rather than 3 months if nothing else interests them.

Personally I would rather have the whole season straight away but I can see how this would lose them money.

I may stop paying for Netflix seeing the 1 click app TeaTV is so good with no buffering.
how will it? the one monthers will just wait till the season ends and still binge it all

Those that want to binge will still binge

OLD BOY 14-09-2022 08:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36134110)
Well a typical Netflix Season is 10 episodes, so to watch it weekly, you would need a 3 month subscription, not one month.
Yes, but people who like constantly changing their subs and binge watching would simply wait until the last of the series was available and watch the whole lot then. Most people would be prepared to wait a few weeks. So Netflix would be making the change for no good reason.

Jaymoss 14-09-2022 09:06
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134116)
Yes, but people who like constantly changing their subs and binge watching would simply wait until the last of the series was available and watch the whole lot then. Most people would be prepared to wait a few weeks. So Netflix would be making the change for no good reason.
wish I thought of that. Twice on this page hahahaha

SnoopZ 14-09-2022 11:17
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36134115)
how will it? the one monthers will just wait till the season ends and still binge it all

Those that want to binge will still binge
For me I watched Cobra Kai in 2 days, I'm not someone who would want to wait 10 weeks before I could watch it in full. :)

1andrew1 14-09-2022 11:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134116)
Yes, but people who like constantly changing their subs and binge watching would simply wait until the last of the series was available and watch the whole lot then. Most people would be prepared to wait a few weeks. So Netflix would be making the change for no good reason.
Where do you get the "most people" from? That's a huge assumption.

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36134144)
For me I watched Cobra Kai in 2 days, I'm not someone who would want to wait 10 weeks before I could watch it in full. :)
Exactly.

jfman 14-09-2022 12:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36134145)
Where do you get the "most people" from? That's a huge assumption.
“Most people” in a cost of living crisis will find non-essential general entertainment largely interchangeable and cancel the dross.

As interest rates rise and creditors get nervous it’ll be popcorn time for the observers of fledgeling streamers. Losing week on week, month on month customers will shatter share prices too.

1andrew1 14-09-2022 13:31
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36134148)
“Most people” in a cost of living crisis will find non-essential general entertainment largely interchangeable and cancel the dross.

As interest rates rise and creditors get nervous it’ll be popcorn time for the observers of fledgeling streamers. Losing week on week, month on month customers will shatter share prices too.
Interestingly, Netflix's share price has fallen substantially in the last 12 months. It's currently $218.13, 12 months ago it was 260% higher at $577.76. (By comparison, Comcast today is $33.46, a year ago it was $35.06)

OLD BOY 14-09-2022 13:41
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36134118)
wish I thought of that. Twice on this page hahahaha
Yes, I hadn’t seen your earlier post when I wrote that 10 minutes later!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36134145)
Where do you get the "most people" from? That's a huge assumption.
It’s a reasonable assumption, I think. I know there are those who can’t wait to be the first to see something new, but personally, I don’t know anyone who would be that desperate, although I know they exist.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36134148)
“Most people” in a cost of living crisis will find non-essential general entertainment largely interchangeable and cancel the dross.

As interest rates rise and creditors get nervous it’ll be popcorn time for the observers of fledgeling streamers. Losing week on week, month on month customers will shatter share prices too.
I can’t quite see why it is you want everything to fail, but I guess there must be some perverted logic in there somewhere.

1andrew1 14-09-2022 13:50
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134152)
It’s a reasonable assumption, I think. I know there are those who can’t wait to be the first to see something new, but personally, I don’t know anyone who would be that desperate, although I know they exist.
I'm sorry but don't see it as a reasonable assumption and neither must Netflix which has more market research at its disposal than you and me.

jfman 14-09-2022 13:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134152)
I can’t quite see why it is you want everything to fail, but I guess there must be some perverted logic in there somewhere.
Capitalism, my dear Old Boy.

Ultimately the presence of loss making companies is undesirable, pushing up costs for established and profitable companies, resulting in higher costs to the end user.

If you are DAZN, throwing billions from a generous benefactor into a failing operation without meaningful rights, all you’ve done is skew the market against consumer interests. We pay those costs.

Chris 14-09-2022 14:13
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36134145)
Where do you get the "most people" from? That's a huge assumption..
In this entire, long running, meandering and frequently circular discussion, ‘most people’ are the ones who behave the way OB does, or at least the ones who behave the way he thinks they should. This basic assumption (for which read, ‘misapprehension’) underpins his whole approach to the topic.

Media Boy UK 14-09-2022 18:00
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Netflix Animation Lays Off 30 As Overhaul Continues

https://deadline.com/2022/09/netflix...es-1235118700/

Jaymoss 14-09-2022 18:26
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134152)
Yes, I hadn’t seen your earlier post when I wrote that 10 minutes later!
Dunno how you missed the last post 10 minutes before you decided to repeat it ! you were just in a rush to respond to Paul than to bother reading the rest of the thread hahaha

OLD BOY 14-09-2022 19:13
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36134183)
Dunno how you missed the last post 10 minutes before you decided to repeat it ! you were just in a rush to respond to Paul than to bother reading the rest of the thread hahaha
I responded when I read the post I replied to. I saw yours as I went down the posts.

I’m not trying to take away the credit from you for saying it first!!

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36134162)
In this entire, long running, meandering and frequently circular discussion, ‘most people’ are the ones who behave the way OB does, or at least the ones who behave the way he thinks they should. This basic assumption (for which read, ‘misapprehension’) underpins his whole approach to the topic.
No, I meet with other people from different walks of life. They are a pretty diverse lot (not in a woke way) and they certainly can’t be accused of ‘group speak’ in the way that a lot who post on here are.

It would certainly be a much better forum if people did discuss instead of trying to shout down those with whom they disagree. Sadly, that shows no signs of changing, so perhaps it’s not worth bothering any more.

Hugh 14-09-2022 19:49
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They are a pretty diverse lot (not in a woke way)
https://i.gifer.com/5Xf.gif

jfman 14-09-2022 21:50
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134187)
It would certainly be a much better forum if people did discuss instead of trying to shout down those with whom they disagree. Sadly, that shows no signs of changing, so perhaps it’s not worth bothering any more.
:rofl:

Irony overload.

It’s been 7 years OB, I doubt you’ll give up shouting down those you disagree with any time soon.

OLD BOY 14-09-2022 23:23
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I haven’t shouted people down. I’ve just given my opinion.

Other opinions are available.

Hugh 14-09-2022 23:49
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Ah, I see…

Others "shout people down".

You just "give your opinion"…

Putin didn’t invade Ukraine - he just was trying to help them "be more Russian"…

OLD BOY 15-09-2022 08:48
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Well, attempting to rise above all this nonsense, here is a more positive view of what will happen with the streamers over the next few years, to provide a little balance.

https://tbivision.com/2022/09/12/wes...e-svod-growth/

Western Europe is set to approach a quarter of a billion SVOD subscribers in the coming years.

According to the latest figures from Digital TV Research, the region will have 238 million SVOD subscriptions by 2027, up from 165 million at the end of 2021. The report notes that six US-based platforms will account for 81% of all SVOD subscriptions in the region.

Netflix will remain the largest, but will only add 3 million from 2021 for a total of 62 million subscribers. As a result, Netflix’s market share will fall from 36% in 2021 to 26% by 2027.

Disney+ meanwhile will almost double its current base to reach 46 million subscribers by 2027. The newcomer Paramount+/SkyShowtime will add 11 million subscribers and HBO Max will bring in an extra 5 million.

In terms of SVOD revenues, the region will be at US$25 billion by 2027, up from US$16 billion in 2021. The UK will continue to be the largest revenue-generating country in Western Europe.

jfman 15-09-2022 09:58
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And of course for balance it’ll be smaller than the market for television advertising at 2021

US$31bn https://tbivision.com/2022/09/12/wes...e-svod-growth/

and the entire market in 2018

$102.4bn https://www.researchandmarkets.com/r...e_tv_in_europe

Far from proving your point the opinion piece you have linked to merely emphasises the scale of the problem in evidencing your conclusions.

That line on Netflix though, that’s a topper! :rofl:

Legendkiller2k 15-09-2022 11:45
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Netflix is losing customers at a fast rate and shareholders are far from happy but it's OK Netflix instead of trying to solve the issue will find another way of driving more customers away.

1andrew1 15-09-2022 11:54
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134226)
Netflix is losing customers at a fast rate and shareholders are far from happy but it's OK Netflix instead of trying to solve the issue will find another way of driving more customers away.
They're probably more interested in reaching profitability now than maintaining market share which makes sense to me. Not sure if that aim is possible given their debt or if they will eventually have to sell themselves to someone like Sony or Microsoft.

Legendkiller2k 15-09-2022 17:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36134227)
They're probably more interested in reaching profitability now than maintaining market share which makes sense to me. Not sure if that aim is possible given their debt or if they will eventually have to sell themselves to someone like Sony or Microsoft.
No customers = no profit they need to start listening to their customers or they're going to find themselves in a bit of a pickle.
I personally rotate between Netflix and Prime video atm i have 12 months Disney+ anyway.
Sale wise last i heard Google were looking at Netflix.

Paul 15-09-2022 21:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134116)
Most people would be prepared to wait a few weeks. So Netflix would be making the change for no good reason.
If that were actually the case, Netflix would never have took off in the first place.

People will not wait 10 weeks when their colleagues, friends, and the internet are all talking about the show they are "waiting" for.

jfman 15-09-2022 23:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36134250)
If that were actually the case, Netflix would never have took off in the first place.

People will not wait 10 weeks when their colleagues, friends, and the internet are all talking about the show they are "waiting" for.
I was going to say this has always been lost on OB. That a proportion of the viewing population want to watch things at (or near) the same time as other people to discuss. As you say colleagues, friends, family or even just the internet are all mediums for doing so.

Then, I noticed OB’s signature on every post and followed my way onto that forum where he has a thread dedicated to telling others his TV highlights, and what time they will be broadcast on traditional channels!

https://www.forumbox.co.uk/forum/thr...oice/?pageNo=1

1andrew1 16-09-2022 09:22
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36134263)
I was going to say this has always been lost on OB. That a proportion of the viewing population want to watch things at (or near) the same time as other people to discuss. As you say colleagues, friends, family or even just the internet are all mediums for doing so.

Then, I noticed OB’s signature on every post and followed my way onto that forum where he has a thread dedicated to telling others his TV highlights, and what time they will be broadcast on traditional channels!

https://www.forumbox.co.uk/forum/thr...oice/?pageNo=1
The Old Boy on Forum Box certainly has a different view of streamers
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Sadly, the best programmes now are headed for the streamers, which will probably be our main focus in time.
https://www.forumbox.co.uk/forum/thr...456#post114456

OLD BOY 16-09-2022 09:55
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I do find you guys are very quick to draw conclusions from the most unlikely or innocent of statements. My opinion that the streamers will take over is not based on what I want, it's based on a common sense view of what will happen in the future. I accept that some of you disagree. Please let's move on from this petty argument and appreciate the fact that we now have far more choice than ever before. People are getting bored of this same old argument.

The main concern I have had over recent years is that people who are struggling with money and would benefit from streaming would be left behind as costs increase, but I am pleased that AVOD services now seem to be on the advance. Against that, streamers like Netflix and Disney are talking about a cheaper tier with advertisements. My hope is that all the main streamers will ultimately offer a free tier with ads so everyone can enjoy them.

Premium sports will always be paid-for content of course, so no change there.

jfman 16-09-2022 10:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134276)
I do find you guys are very quick to draw conclusions from the most unlikely or innocent of statements. My opinion that the streamers will take over is not based on what I want, it's based on a common sense view of what will happen in the future. I accept that some of you disagree. Please let's move on from this petty argument and appreciate the fact that we now have far more choice than ever before. People are getting bored of this same old argument.

The main concern I have had over recent years is that people who are struggling with money and would benefit from streaming would be left behind as costs increase, but I am pleased that AVOD services now seem to be on the advance. Against that, streamers like Netflix and Disney are talking about a cheaper tier with advertisements. My hope is that all the main streamers will ultimately offer a free tier with ads so everyone can enjoy them.

Premium sports will always be paid-for content of course, so no change there.
This is the thing, OB. You don’t actually accept that others disagree. Neither do you factor in the evidence put to you by others. You simply repeat ad nauseum the same “common sense view” that, from a straw poll looking around this forum, isn’t actually that common at all.

You describe streamers “taking over”. Taking over what exactly? The television market as a whole? Yet incumbents are incorporating streaming into their portfolio of products in the marketplace. These aren’t zero sum games with their existing, popular, profitable and massively revenue generating products.

If you merely mean as a technology while recognising the same dominant players will still have a significant presence in the marketplace then this view isn’t supported either given the glacial nature of technological progress.

You feign concern for those who simply want to watch, but not pay, for TV. Yet your vision of “progress” would be more limiting than what is available now where tried and tested mass market technologies are closed down in favour of IP based products.

I probably don’t have the same vision of what television looks like as most on the forum - the technology mix, how many linear channels will persist on each platform, etc. Everyone sees a greater role for streaming, and everyone sees consolidation into global conglomerates. However it is your absolutist view, aginst real world evidence, that somehow persists to dominate conversation because you insist on pushing it most.

Huxie 16-09-2022 11:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36134281)
This is the thing, OB. You don’t actually accept that others disagree. Neither do you factor in the evidence put to you by others. You simply repeat ad nauseum the same “common sense view” that, from a straw poll looking around this forum, isn’t actually that common at all.

You describe streamers “taking over”. Taking over what exactly? The television market as a whole? Yet incumbents are incorporating streaming into their portfolio of products in the marketplace. These aren’t zero sum games with their existing, popular, profitable and massively revenue generating products.

If you merely mean as a technology while recognising the same dominant players will still have a significant presence in the marketplace then this view isn’t supported either given the glacial nature of technological progress.

You feign concern for those who simply want to watch, but not pay, for TV. Yet your vision of “progress” would be more limiting than what is available now where tried and tested mass market technologies are closed down in favour of IP based products.

I probably don’t have the same vision of what television looks like as most on the forum - the technology mix, how many linear channels will persist on each platform, etc. Everyone sees a greater role for streaming, and everyone sees consolidation into global conglomerates. However it is your absolutist view, aginst real world evidence, that somehow persists to dominate conversation because you insist on pushing it most.
Goodness me, OB really lives in your head, rent free.

Legendkiller2k 16-09-2022 14:08
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BT are doing a cracking deal right now if you have bt broadband get nowtv plus netflix for £6p/m. https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/bt-tv-...-freeview-box/

Legendkiller2k 17-09-2022 02:01
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Can you two stop derailing this thread, information etc is getting lost in your constant back and forth childish bickering.
You'll both never see eye to eye so just pop each other on ignore and let the rest of us enjoy the thread.

jfman 17-09-2022 02:22
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134387)
Can you two stop derailing this thread, information etc is getting lost in your constant back and forth childish bickering.
You'll both never see eye to eye so just pop each other on ignore and let the rest of us enjoy the thread.
I've invited OB to do so on many, many occasions to stop derailing the thread. However it doesn't happen. The extent to which he portrays his single minded view in perpetuity had permeated the forum to the extent that Chris designated a single thread for all of it.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33709854

Jaymoss 17-09-2022 09:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36134389)
I've invited OB to do so on many, many occasions to stop derailing the thread. However it doesn't happen. The extent to which he portrays his single minded view in perpetuity had permeated the forum to the extent that Chris designated a single thread for all of it.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33709854
lots of us have single minded views on this forum. In the main it is called an opinion. I will back up my opinion as plenty of others do. I do not like OBs (and a few others) posting style but there is nowhere in the rules where it says I have to hahaha

denphone 17-09-2022 10:11
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l have no problems with other peoples opinions but one or 2 posters seem to take umbrage when they are faced with a differing viewpoint which disagrees with their own.

johnasimmons 17-09-2022 12:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134387)
Can you two stop derailing this thread, information etc is getting lost in your constant back and forth childish bickering.
You'll both never see eye to eye so just pop each other on ignore and let the rest of us enjoy the thread.

:clap: :clap:

Paul 17-09-2022 13:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134387)
Can you two stop derailing this thread, information etc is getting lost in your constant back and forth childish bickering.
You'll both never see eye to eye so just pop each other on ignore and let the rest of us enjoy the thread.
This.

I have just removed over a page of useless bickering.

Any more, and the rights of some to this topic will be removed, its like being in a school playground.

Legendkiller2k 18-09-2022 13:56
Re: Streaming services news, offers and general chit chat
 
Been told by collegues at my old job that Amazon are about to start trialing 8K

jfman 21-09-2022 10:29
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Deep pockets DAZN big push for pay-per-view in the US looks to have been a disaster. Reports indicate that Saul “Canelo” Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin did around 550 000 PPV buys at $85 a pop.

The third fight in a trilogy that saw 1.3 million and 1.1 million buys for the first two fights on HBO PPV.

With both fighters slated to have a guaranteed purse of $75m between them it looks like Len will be getting the chequebook out once again to fund his loss making operation.

Legendkiller2k 21-09-2022 15:19
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Samsung tv plus is one to keep an eye on they are hoping within the next 24 months to get the freeview service streaming via their channels too (aka bbc, itv, channel4, 5 etc)

Chris 21-09-2022 17:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134635)
Samsung tv plus is one to keep an eye on they are hoping within the next 24 months to get the freeview service streaming via their channels too (aka bbc, itv, channel4, 5 etc)
Now that’s interesting news - do you have a link for that?

Legendkiller2k 21-09-2022 21:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36134640)
Now that’s interesting news - do you have a link for that?
Just hearsay atm mate from my old work place, as soon as i get something solid i will post it.

1andrew1 22-09-2022 19:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134659)
Just hearsay atm mate from my old work place, as soon as i get something solid i will post it.
It's logical given Sky Glass and the ability of BT TV's and VM's streamer to get a lot of the Freeview channels without an aerial.

Legendkiller2k 24-09-2022 14:03
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Credit to Onedirectional on dspy SKY moving to online only? "Sky has reportedly informed its trade suppliers that they will cease installing “new” satellite TV dishes on customer homes by the end of 2023, which is widely understood to reflect their increasing adoption of broadband internet based IPTV (video streaming etc.) delivery methods." https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...s-in-2023.html

Edit scrap that SKY have responded saying it's untrue.

jfman 24-09-2022 14:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134860)
Credit to Onedirectional on dspy SKY moving to online only? "Sky has reportedly informed its trade suppliers that they will cease installing “new” satellite TV dishes on customer homes by the end of 2023, which is widely understood to reflect their increasing adoption of broadband internet based IPTV (video streaming etc.) delivery methods." https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...s-in-2023.html

Edit scrap that SKY have responded saying it's untrue.
Sky almost certainly wouldn’t want it out there so far in advance in case it impacts take up of existing services. The date is probably ambitious too.

Legendkiller2k 24-09-2022 16:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36134862)
Sky almost certainly wouldn’t want it out there so far in advance in case it impacts take up of existing services. The date is probably ambitious too.
Yeah i think it'll come but not for a few years yet as the UK infrastructure isn't there yet.

RichardCoulter 24-09-2022 19:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134860)
Credit to Onedirectional on dspy SKY moving to online only? "Sky has reportedly informed its trade suppliers that they will cease installing “new” satellite TV dishes on customer homes by the end of 2023, which is widely understood to reflect their increasing adoption of broadband internet based IPTV (video streaming etc.) delivery methods." https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...s-in-2023.html

Edit scrap that SKY have responded saying it's untrue.
A denial by Sky means nothing one way or the other. I remember them saying that the basic Sky channels were 'free and 'always would be'. I also remember them then saying that FTA channels had been scrambled because pay channels were the only way to provide quality programming and then subsequently put some of their channels onto Freeview!

I would take anything that Sky say either way with a pinch of salt.

OLD BOY 24-09-2022 20:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134860)
Credit to Onedirectional on dspy SKY moving to online only? "Sky has reportedly informed its trade suppliers that they will cease installing “new” satellite TV dishes on customer homes by the end of 2023, which is widely understood to reflect their increasing adoption of broadband internet based IPTV (video streaming etc.) delivery methods." https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...s-in-2023.html
.
Well, if true, it all seems to be part of the plan to convert terrestrial, satellite and cable channels to IPTV only. Add to that no guarantee that broadcast TV licences will be extended beyond the mid 2030s and you can see how all of this is panning out.

Chris 24-09-2022 20:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134883)
Well, if true, it all seems to be part of the plan to convert terrestrial, satellite and cable channels to IPTV only. Add to that no guarantee that broadcast TV licences will be extended beyond the mid 2030s and you can see how all of this is panning out.
Quote:
not true … we will be selling Sky Q for the foreseeable future,” said a Sky spokesperson
Indeed, those of us who haven’t staked our reputations on a ridiculously narrow prediction of the future of TV can see exactly how this is panning out.

jfman 24-09-2022 21:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134883)
Well, if true, it all seems to be part of the plan to convert terrestrial, satellite and cable channels to IPTV only. Add to that no guarantee that broadcast TV licences will be extended beyond the mid 2030s and you can see how all of this is panning out.
What plan? Who is the owner/lead agency of said plan? Have Government or the regulator had input?

OLD BOY 24-09-2022 21:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36134898)
What plan? Who is the owner/lead agency of said plan? Have Government or the regulator had input?
Keep up, jfman. You heard it here first. :D

jfman 24-09-2022 21:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134904)
Keep up, jfman. You heard it here first. :D
You appear to have a misunderstanding of the word “plan”.

Legendkiller2k 25-09-2022 02:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134883)
Well, if true, it all seems to be part of the plan to convert terrestrial, satellite and cable channels to IPTV only. Add to that no guarantee that broadcast TV licences will be extended beyond the mid 2030s and you can see how all of this is panning out.
Also you forgot to quote where i clearly edited it stating SKY responded saying it was untrue.

---------- Post added at 02:37 ---------- Previous post was at 02:36 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36134896)
Indeed, those of us who haven’t staked our reputations on a ridiculously narrow prediction of the future of TV can see exactly how this is panning out.
Funny thing is mate OB kinda forgot to include my edit in his quote where i stated SKY responded saying it was untrue, typical OB lol.

OLD BOY 25-09-2022 11:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36134915)
Also you forgot to quote where i clearly edited it stating SKY responded saying it was untrue.

---------- Post added at 02:37 ---------- Previous post was at 02:36 ----------



Funny thing is mate OB kinda forgot to include my edit in his quote where i stated SKY responded saying it was untrue, typical OB lol.
I didn't ignore it. This information appears to have leaked out and Sky is simply denying it so people won't be encouraged to think that satellite TV is ending, which would impact on customer take-up.

At least that's what it looks like to me. I guess we shall see with the fullness of time.

muppetman11 26-09-2022 12:57
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Been using the Virgin Media Stream device and so far it’s a great little device ,

A few little gripes

I’d like to see a continue watching section on the Home Screen as the Watchlist feature doesn’t take you to the latest episode you’ve watched.

I’d also like to see Netflix allow you to search its content from the Universal Virgin Search , I expect this isn’t anything Virgin can do until Netflix changes its stance.

Apple TV + , Discovery Plus would also be a welcome addition.

Phunkenstein 27-09-2022 08:11
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https://www.skygroup.sky/article/sky...way-to-get-sky

jfman 27-09-2022 08:37
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Atrocious news for the already drowning in debt traditional “streamers” that Sky are taking their one USP and bringing their economies of scale (and profits) with them.

OLD BOY 27-09-2022 09:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36135041)
I like the bit that says:

If you find something you love but want to watch it later, you can create a personal Playlist from apps and channels, both live and on demand. When you want to Playlist something, just click the ‘+’ on your remote and it’ll be saved in the cloud for whenever you’re ready to watch

So this means that you can, in fact, create a watchlist derived from different streamers on one central list.

If that is correct, it's exactly the kind of innovation I've been looking for. Hopefully, that idea will be utilised on all boxes soon.

---------- Post added at 09:01 ---------- Previous post was at 08:53 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36135044)
Atrocious news for the already drowning in debt traditional “streamers” that Sky are taking their one USP and bringing their economies of scale (and profits) with them.
I'm not sure how you make that out. You still pay for the streamers and here you can get them all in one place. It encourages people to use them more. The streamers would not have agreed to this if they thought it was a bad idea.

What do you mean by 'economies of scale' in this context? Surely, the economies of scale lie in the global reach of the streamers?

jfman 27-09-2022 09:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36135052)
What do you mean by 'economies of scale' in this context? Surely, the economies of scale lie in the global reach of the streamers?
No, economies of scale come from being able to take a fixed cost (like say, £5bn for Premiership football rights) and dilute it across a massive customer base (like 11 million customers in the UK and Ireland), paying a large amount of money (I’ve not seen Sky’s ARPU of late, but I’d guess £500+).

No “streamer” is at that scale in this, or any other, market. For the hypothetical streamer the cost of the rights isn’t fixed, it’s inherently variable as they’d need to buy up the rights in each additional territory with a customer base with ever diminishing interest.

TimeLord2018 28-09-2022 14:24
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Starzplay Rebrands As Lionsgate+ Internationally from tomorrow
https://variety.com/2022/tv/global/s...us-1235386607/

Lionsgate Says It’s Leaning Toward Spinning Off Studio, Not Starz
Quote:
Lionsgate is now looking at spinning off its studio business — rather than kicking out the Starz premium network and streaming business.

The company, in an SEC filing Wednesday, said that “Despite the volatile market environment” Lionsgate remains “on a path to separating our Starz and studio businesses.” However, Lionsgate is increasingly focused on divesting the studio side of the house.

Even after the separation of Starz and Lionsgate’s studio business, Hirsch added, “the Lionsgate brand will continue to be valuable to the ongoing success of our international platform.”
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/l...rz-1235386627/

SonicMaster 28-09-2022 16:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36135239)
Starzplay Rebrands As Lionsgate+ Internationally from tomorrow
https://variety.com/2022/tv/global/s...us-1235386607/

Lionsgate Says It’s Leaning Toward Spinning Off Studio, Not Starz

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/l...rz-1235386627/
The rebrand of STARZPLAY to LIONSGATE+ internationally makes sense, with Disney+ using the STAR brand in the majority of those territories.

vincerooney 29-09-2022 01:26
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WWE Network is moving to Binge a streaming service in Australia owned by Foxtel https://deadline.com/2022/09/wwe-fox...ge-1235128367/

Obviously this is Australia but continues the whole project of moving WWE Network to third party providers from an inhouse production.

Who will get the UK rights to the WWE Network which is the second biggest market? Canada, USA, Australia and Indonesia have these deals now.

Netflix- can't see them doing this deal as they're cutting costs
Disney+ - Possibly ?
Amazon Prime- Again another possibility...
Sky- Well the tv shows are with BT Sport so i can't see that nor i can't see how it fits in with Now TV either.
BT Sport- Would fit as they're the provider but BT would need to launch their own streaming service for everyone not just their customers (i would hope?) plus they're cutting costs too...or could discovery + get it as they now own part of BT Sport...

Interesting times and with the amount of content WWE could provide (even if youre not a fan) it will be tempting for providers to grab.

As we all know....CONTENT IS KING

Legendkiller2k 29-09-2022 02:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36135300)
WWE Network is moving to Binge a streaming service in Australia owned by Foxtel https://deadline.com/2022/09/wwe-fox...ge-1235128367/

Obviously this is Australia but continues the whole project of moving WWE Network to third party providers from an inhouse production.

Who will get the UK rights to the WWE Network which is the second biggest market? Canada, USA, Australia and Indonesia have these deals now.

Netflix- can't see them doing this deal as they're cutting costs
Disney+ - Possibly ?
Amazon Prime- Again another possibility...
Sky- Well the tv shows are with BT Sport so i can't see that nor i can't see how it fits in with Now TV either.
BT Sport- Would fit as they're the provider but BT would need to launch their own streaming service for everyone not just their customers (i would hope?) plus they're cutting costs too...or could discovery + get it as they now own part of BT Sport...

Interesting times and with the amount of content WWE could provide (even if youre not a fan) it will be tempting for providers to grab.

As we all know....CONTENT IS KING
Eventually WWE network will be either part of Peacock or BTsportDiscovery.

muppetman11 29-09-2022 15:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36135300)
WWE Network is moving to Binge a streaming service in Australia owned by Foxtel https://deadline.com/2022/09/wwe-fox...ge-1235128367/

Obviously this is Australia but continues the whole project of moving WWE Network to third party providers from an inhouse production.

Who will get the UK rights to the WWE Network which is the second biggest market? Canada, USA, Australia and Indonesia have these deals now.

Netflix- can't see them doing this deal as they're cutting costs
Disney+ - Possibly ?
Amazon Prime- Again another possibility...
Sky- Well the tv shows are with BT Sport so i can't see that nor i can't see how it fits in with Now TV either.
BT Sport- Would fit as they're the provider but BT would need to launch their own streaming service for everyone not just their customers (i would hope?) plus they're cutting costs too...or could discovery + get it as they now own part of BT Sport...

Interesting times and with the amount of content WWE could provide (even if youre not a fan) it will be tempting for providers to grab.

As we all know....CONTENT IS KING
Content is King……WWE is Panto :D

1andrew1 30-09-2022 10:10
Re: Streaming services news, offers and general chit chat
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36135300)
WWE Network is moving to Binge a streaming service in Australia owned by Foxtel https://deadline.com/2022/09/wwe-fox...ge-1235128367/

Obviously this is Australia but continues the whole project of moving WWE Network to third party providers from an inhouse production.

Who will get the UK rights to the WWE Network which is the second biggest market? Canada, USA, Australia and Indonesia have these deals now.

Netflix- can't see them doing this deal as they're cutting costs
Disney+ - Possibly ?
Amazon Prime- Again another possibility...
Sky- Well the tv shows are with BT Sport so i can't see that nor i can't see how it fits in with Now TV either.
BT Sport- Would fit as they're the provider but BT would need to launch their own streaming service for everyone not just their customers (i would hope?) plus they're cutting costs too...or could discovery + get it as they now own part of BT Sport...

Interesting times and with the amount of content WWE could provide (even if youre not a fan) it will be tempting for providers to grab.

As we all know....CONTENT IS KING
BT Sport has an app for non-customers. As BT is moving away from content acquisition, I don't know if it would see the need to make its streaming box available to non-BT customers. This would only make it easier for people to move to a cheaper competitor like the altnets. Longer term, I understand that the BT retail offering will be under the EE brand.

I think the only companies interested in WWE in the UK would be the three main sports providers: WBD-BT Sport, Sky, and ViaPlay-Premier Sports.

Legendkiller2k 30-09-2022 12:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36135483)
BT Sport has an app for non-customers. As BT is moving away from content acquisition, I don't know if it would see the need to make its streaming box available to non-BT customers. This would only make it easier for people to move to a cheaper competitor like the altnets. Longer term, I understand that the BT retail offering will be under the EE brand.

I think the only companies interested in WWE in the UK would be the three main sports providers: WBD-BT Sport, Sky, and ViaPlay-Premier Sports.
I've literally already told you lot what the plans are for WWE Network lol :p:

Media Boy UK 30-09-2022 14:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36135483)
I think the only companies interested in WWE in the UK would be the three main sports providers: WBD-BT Sport, Sky, and ViaPlay-Premier Sports.
As I have been watching WWE for 32years here is my views.

Sky: If WWE goes back to Sky if I was Sky I would offer WWE an WWE branded channel "Sky Sports WWE" broadcasting WWE shows 24/7 (like Sky do with F1 and NFL)

WBD BT: If WWE stays with WBD-BT I would not mind but I would go after WWE NXT PPVS as part of new deal.

Viaplay: Would Viaplay have room to broadcast WWE due to their NHL rights?

We will find where WWE goes next somepoint in 2024 as WBD BT deal ends on December 31st 2024.

jfman 03-10-2022 11:21
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Deep pockets DAZN are making Connor Benn v Chris Eubank jr. available as a pay per view add on for Virgin Media customers on their set top box.

£27.98 for a catchweight non-title fight between two guys that aren’t even rivals. The low cost streaming future is here. :rofl:

Jaymoss 03-10-2022 11:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36135805)
Deep pockets DAZN are making Connor Benn v Chris Eubank jr. available as a pay per view add on for Virgin Media customers on their set top box.

£27.98 for a catchweight non-title fight between two guys that aren’t even rivals. The low cost streaming future is here. :rofl:
For £7 more I could grab a years illicit IPTV with links to that and every other fight. I do not advocate this but the prices prove why people do pirate this kinda stuff

jfman 03-10-2022 14:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36135808)
For £7 more I could grab a years illicit IPTV with links to that and every other fight. I do not advocate this but the prices prove why people do pirate this kinda stuff
If those I follow on social media are representative there’s many people who insist they do not pay but do watch events.

I think this is the sixth PPV in about nine weeks. I think boxing fans are getting tired of being rinsed.

jfman 06-10-2022 15:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36135838)
If those I follow on social media are representative there’s many people who insist they do not pay but do watch events.

I think this is the sixth PPV in about nine weeks. I think boxing fans are getting tired of being rinsed.
Hopefully nobody was too fast to purchase it, as if it wasn’t a mismatch enough one has failed a drugs test and the promoter was at the High Court out of desperation trying to force the British Boxing Board of Control to sanction it anyway :rofl:

Media Boy UK 06-10-2022 17:30
Re: Streaming services news, offers and general chit chat
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36135838)
If those I follow on social media are representative there’s many people who insist they do not pay but do watch events.

I think this is the sixth PPV in about nine weeks. I think boxing fans are getting tired of being rinsed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36136162)
Hopefully nobody was too fast to purchase it, as if it wasn’t a mismatch enough one has failed a drugs test and the promoter was at the High Court out of desperation trying to force the British Boxing Board of Control to sanction it anyway :rofl:
Conor Benn v Chris Eubank Jr fight postponed

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/63158856

Jaymoss 06-10-2022 17:43
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Drug taking cheat should be banned from pro fighting full stop

jfman 06-10-2022 20:46
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Glad it’s off the Board had no business sanctioning someone who fights at 147 to fight someone who naturally fights at 160. The drugs just made it more farcical.

muppetman11 09-10-2022 14:21
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Yesterday I was watching Final Score on BBC 1 HD using the Virgin Media Stream device and noticed every so often the picture would worsen and it was mainly noticeable on the on screen graphics giving the scores.

The picture would go softer and a little blurred then correct itself , I ran checks on my Broadband and all was fine however I have noticed this a couple of times and the stream box is right near the Virgin Media hub.

Anyone else suffered with this ?

Chris 09-10-2022 14:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36136368)
Yesterday I was watching Final Score on BBC 1 HD using the Virgin Media Stream device and noticed every so often the picture would worsen and it was mainly noticeable on the on screen graphics giving the scores.

The picture would go softer and a little blurred then correct itself , I ran checks on my Broadband and all was fine however I have noticed this a couple of times and the stream box is right near the Virgin Media hub.

Anyone else suffered with this ?
That sounds like the bandwidth dropping and recovering. We used to get similar on Netflix at our old house where our 4G internet connection could vary in speed quite wildly. I’m surprised you’re getting it on a VM connection though, I’d have thought the speed you’re paying for is so high that even if it drops by 90% for a few seconds there would still be more than enough for a crisp HD picture.

We have BT Full Fibre 300 now and all the streaming stuff we access is always rock sold maximum quality.

jfman 09-10-2022 15:49
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It defo sounds like bandwidth. Is the stream definitely connecting to the 5Ghz wifi and not 2.4Ghz?

If you have another device to check that’s traditional linear cable, satellite or DTT how close to “live” is “live”?

muppetman11 09-10-2022 16:06
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Just checked my box and the stream has an Ethernet socket in the three pin plug this is then connected directly into the back of my Virgin Media hub so it’s not Wi-Fi after all , I forgot how I had set it up. Testing the broadband speed seems to give me what I’m paying for so far day and night.

Seems really strange.

jfman 09-10-2022 16:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36136375)
Just checked my box and the stream has an Ethernet socket in the three pin plug this is then connected directly into the back of my Virgin Media hub so it’s not Wi-Fi after all , I forgot how I had set it up. Testing the broadband speed seems to give me what I’m paying for so far day and night.

Seems really strange.
Odd, I subscribe to an overseas service that has can only use one (ropey) VPN for. It’s about 20-25 seconds behind “live” for football but if I use my Apple TV to create a further 30 second delay or so it’s much more reliable.

1andrew1 13-10-2022 22:09
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Getting closer to the incumbents.
Quote:
Netflix launches £4.99 monthly subscription – but customers will get fewer shows

The new “Basic with Adverts” subscription plan will launch on 3 November at 4pm in nine countries including the UK.

However, customers on the plan will have access to fewer films and TV series to watch compared with subscribers who pick the Premium or Extra tiers, with Netflix confirming that “around 5 to 10pc” of series will not be available on the ad-supported tier.

“A limited number of films and TV series won't be available due to licensing restrictions, which we’re working on; there’s no ability to download titles,” said a spokesman.

Meanwhile, Netflix customers on the Basic plan will also be required to watch four to five minutes of adverts every hour, each lasting for 15 to 30 seconds each.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...ea4e48a5ff9e8a


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