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1andrew1 20-11-2020 12:07
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36058972)
Happy birthday to sleepy Joe Biden 78 TODAY .
How can you be an impartial observer yet label one of the presidential candidates sleepy?

papa smurf 20-11-2020 12:10
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36058997)
How can you be an impartial observer yet label one of the presidential candidates sleepy?
Because that is what i impartially observed most people call him, like most people call Mr trump The Don, or the Donald.

Sephiroth 20-11-2020 12:20
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36058999)
Because that is what i impartially observed most people call him, like most people call Mr trump The Don, or the Donald.
Racist? Narcissist? Divisive? Inciter? Creep? Crutch grabber?

Chris 20-11-2020 12:22
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36059004)
Racist? Narcissist? Divisive? Inciter? Creep? Crutch grabber?
To be precise, he said “grab ‘em by the pussy,” because he’s classy like that.

1andrew1 20-11-2020 12:23
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36058999)
Because that is what i impartially observed most people call him, like most people call Mr trump The Don, or the Donald.
Repeating "what most people called him" makes you a crowd-follower, not an impartial observer.

TheDaddy 20-11-2020 12:26
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36058999)
Because that is what i impartially observed most people call him, like most people call Mr trump The Don, or the Donald.
They call him Bidon now...

Sephiroth 20-11-2020 12:59
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36059005)
To be precise, he said “grab ‘em by the pussy,” because he’s classy like that.
I stand erected corrected.

Damien 20-11-2020 18:02
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Georgia is certified.

Mr K 20-11-2020 18:41
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36059091)
Georgia is certified.
So is Trump.

peanut 20-11-2020 19:14
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36059097)
So is Trump.
:p::p::p:

Hugh 20-11-2020 21:04
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1605905220

One small problem - the voters’ signatures and identifying information are on the envelope which contained the ballot, and the envelope is discarded after the envelope is received, validated, and processed; this ensures the information on the actual ballot slip (how the voter voted) remains secret (as required by law).

There is no actual way to match up the ballots (which have no voter identification on them) with the envelopes, even if they had kept the envelopes. This is why they can do a recount (how many votes did each candidate get), but not who voted for which candidate (because this would be illegal, as it would defeat the whole "secret ballot" thing).

https://ballotpedia.org/Processing,_..._Georgia,_2020

You would have thought that the President (or his lawyers) would know this...

Mad Max 20-11-2020 21:07
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36059123)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1605905220

One small problem - the voters’ signatures and identifying information are on the envelope which contained the ballot, and the envelope is discarded after the envelope is received, validated, and processed; this ensures the information on the actual ballot slip (how the voter voted) remains secret (as required by law).

There is no actual way to match up the ballots (which have no voter identification on them) with the envelopes, even if they had kept the envelopes. This is why they can do a recount (how many votes did each candidate get), but not who voted for which candidate (because this would be illegal, as it would defeat the whole "secret ballot" thing).

https://ballotpedia.org/Processing,_..._Georgia,_2020

You would have thought that the President (or his lawyers) would know this...

Well, it looks like it's rigged then.....:D

Damien 20-11-2020 21:08
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
I think that's how we do it in the UK as well. I've done a few postal votes as during the last few elections it was never for sure I would be where I needed to be for voting (an underlooked problem tbh) and yeah you have to sign two forms and do an envelope inside an envelope.

Hugh 20-11-2020 21:08
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36059124)
Well, it looks like it's rigged then.....:D
Well, it’s how Donald voted this year...

Dave42 20-11-2020 22:29
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36059124)
Well, it looks like it's rigged then.....:D
was Donald's vote rigged to as he voted by mail but of course the Trump votes by mail were all fine just the Biden ones that was rigged

Paul 20-11-2020 22:38
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36059123)
You would have thought that the President (or his lawyers) would know this...
He probably just doesnt understand it.
His lawers understand it, but dont want to be fired for pointing out such facts to him.

jfman 20-11-2020 22:39
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36059152)
He probably just doesnt understand it.
His lawers understand it, but dont want to be fired for pointing out such facts to him.
And are probably printing their own pay cheques in the meantime. :)

Damien 20-11-2020 22:40
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Georgia really is certified now, the former statement was premature apparently but they have since confirmed Biden is the winner.

With the lawsuits failing in Michigan and Pennsylvania then this appears done. Trump might be trying to get Michigan's GOP lawmakers to overturn the results but they've said they won't, they certainly won't if it doesn't change anything and Biden no longer needs Michigan as Arizona and Nevada seem certain to call. Wisconsin isn't needed either now.

Really do wonder what else Trump can do at this point? Are the states all going to certify, the college convenes, and he still refuses to acknowledge he has lost? And what about the administration in charge of transition? Are they really not going to allow Biden to prepare for Government so the first time?

Paul 20-11-2020 22:41
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
I work with a number of Americans.
None of them think either is a good choice.
They mostly just think Biden will be less of a disaster than Trump.

Damien 20-11-2020 22:48
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Yeah, Biden was a weak candidate although he did what he needed to do in the end. Biden got the nomination by being 'the best of the rest' at the time Sanders was surging and the DNC didn't want Sanders to be the candidate. The DNC thought Sanders was too left-wing for America and - look at how the Democrats other than Biden performed - that was right.

Biden won precisely because he was perceived as less of a risk and his campaign mostly let Trump do the talking. It was also hard for the Trump campaign to make the idea he was some dangerous communist leftie take hold.

Dave42 20-11-2020 23:06
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Donald Trump JR got covid 19 breaking news on CNN

Hugh 21-11-2020 00:25
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36059163)
Donald Trump JR got covid 19 breaking news on CNN
And Rudi Guilani’s son.

There’s a theme here somewhere...

On a thread-related note -

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...lection-438690
Quote:
A delegation of Republican state lawmakers from Michigan came to Washington on Friday as part of President Donald Trump’s Hail Mary attempt to usurp the results of the election he lost.

But when the day ended, the lawmakers were unequivocal: President-elect Joe Biden's victory in Michigan was still intact...

..."We will follow the law and follow the normal process regarding Michigan's electors, just as we have said throughout this election," they said. "Michigan's certification process should be a deliberate process free from threats and intimidation."

Dude111 21-11-2020 08:34
Major fraud in this election and the only ones who swear NO FRAUD are people who dont like trump!! (No surprise)

He isnt giving up though and I think if the dems get in FALSELY like this,we will be much worse off in this country!!!!!!

papa smurf 21-11-2020 08:40
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
:clap::clap::clap:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36059185)
Major fraud in this election and the only ones who swear NO FRAUD are people who dont like trump!! (No surprise)

He isnt giving up though and I think if the dems get in FALSELY like this,we will be much worse off in this country!!!!!!

Maggy 21-11-2020 09:05
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36059185)
Major fraud in this election and the only ones who swear NO FRAUD are people who dont like trump!! (No surprise)

He isnt giving up though and I think if the dems get in FALSELY like this,we will be much worse off in this country!!!!!!
Sorry friend but you are swimming upstream..

Damien 21-11-2020 09:29
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36059185)
Major fraud in this election and the only ones who swear NO FRAUD are people who dont like trump!! (No surprise)
And the courts.

You need evidence in court and they don't provide any.

Mr K 21-11-2020 09:33
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36059185)
Major fraud in this election and the only ones who swear NO FRAUD are people who dont like trump!! (No surprise)

He isnt giving up though and I think if the dems get in FALSELY like this,we will be much worse off in this country!!!!!!
So that would include all the Republican Election officials and Republican judges who laughed everything out of court for lack of any evidence.

Just because he tweets something, doesn't make it true. Even twitter are now putting a health warning on his lies.

Sorry but you're going to have to find another nutter to worship...;)

Chris 21-11-2020 09:44
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36059185)
Major fraud in this election and the only ones who swear NO FRAUD are people who dont like trump!! (No surprise)

He isnt giving up though and I think if the dems get in FALSELY like this,we will be much worse off in this country!!!!!!
Proof, finally, that you are totally mental. Did you copy and paste that from one of donny’s late-night hate tweets?

papa smurf 21-11-2020 09:53
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36059185)
Major fraud in this election and the only ones who swear NO FRAUD are people who dont like trump!! (No surprise)

He isnt giving up though and I think if the dems get in FALSELY like this,we will be much worse off in this country!!!!!!
Obviously as the American on the forum your not allowed an opinion that backs the sitting president.

Chris 21-11-2020 10:32
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059197)
Obviously as the American on the forum your not allowed an opinion that backs the sitting president.
Opinions are like assoles, as we all well know.

Here’s a (somewhat more balanced and informed) opinion from a Republican in America:

Quote:
Following a by-hand recount, Mr Biden's narrow victory in Georgia was officially certified on Friday by the Republican official who oversaw the audit.
Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said: "Like other Republicans. I'm disappointed, our candidate didn't win Georgia's electoral votes [but] I live by the motto that numbers don't lie.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55025997

pip08456 21-11-2020 10:58
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36059202)
Opinions are like assoles, as we all well know.

Here’s a (somewhat more balanced and informed) opinion from a Republican in America:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55025997
From a Republican Senator.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1605956223

Hugh 21-11-2020 12:33
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059197)
Obviously as the American on the forum your not allowed an opinion that backs the sitting president.
Opinions do not have the same weight as facts - try jumping off a cliff with the opinion that the 90 foot fall won’t hurt you...

That’s the problem - people think they are being balanced by giving unfounded opinions without any backing evidence the same weighting as actual verifiable facts.

Chris 21-11-2020 12:49
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
The argument that the election was fraudulent has now been repeatedly tested in court and found to be false.

The opinion that the election was fraudulent now deserves as much respect as flat earthers, moon landing hoaxers and climate change deniers.

pip08456 21-11-2020 12:59
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36059217)
The argument that the election was fraudulent has now been repeatedly tested in court and found to be false.

The opinion that the election was fraudulent now deserves as much respect as flat earthers, moon landing hoaxers and climate change deniers.
Actually it hasn't. Lawyers have repeatedly stressed they are not alledging fraud in many of the cases (33?) that have been thrown out.

Chris 21-11-2020 13:04
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36059218)
Actually it hasn't. Lawyers have repeatedly stressed they are not alledging fraud in many of the cases (33?) that have been thrown out.
I think it’s fair to argue that if a lawyer stands outside court and shouts “fraud!” as Rudi has done, and then sends his team in to the court, where they are challenged by the judge “are you alleging fraud?” and they say “no” ... it’s fair enough to conclude their allegations of fraud have fallen at the first hurdle (or, perhaps, refused the first hurdle, to stretch the steeplechase metaphor).

It’s important to stress, these lawyers are only stressing that they are not alleging fraud, once they stand up in court without any evidence of fraud. Trump’s legal team has most definitely been making widespread allegations of fraud right up to that point.

pip08456 21-11-2020 14:29
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36059220)
I think it’s fair to argue that if a lawyer stands outside court and shouts “fraud!” as Rudi has done, and then sends his team in to the court, where they are challenged by the judge “are you alleging fraud?” and they say “no” ... it’s fair enough to conclude their allegations of fraud have fallen at the first hurdle (or, perhaps, refused the first hurdle, to stretch the steeplechase metaphor).

It’s important to stress, these lawyers are only stressing that they are not alleging fraud, once they stand up in court without any evidence of fraud. Trump’s legal team has most definitely been making widespread allegations of fraud right up to that point.
But they haven't yet submitted a case of fraud in front of a court for the judge to ask if they are alleging it.

papa smurf 21-11-2020 14:47
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36059229)
But they haven't yet submitted a case of fraud in front of a court for the judge to ask if they are alleging it.
Let's not fog the air with facts ;)

Chris 21-11-2020 15:31
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36059229)
But they haven't yet submitted a case of fraud in front of a court for the judge to ask if they are alleging it.
Well of course they haven't - they're doing that outside the court, effectively trying to have their cake and eat it. But I maintain that this strategy, of alleging fraud outside the courthouse and then not submitting fraud allegations inside the courthouse, is de facto the same thing. They've had the chance to put fraud before a judge and have repeatedly not done so, despite repeatedly alleging that there *has* been fraud. At some point you have to accept their loud, public claims of fraud have failed. Otherwise, why not present the evidence?

The Trump strategy exists solely to cause the weak-minded to assume there's no smoke without fire, and that there must be fraud because Rudi said so. And, dare I say it, because nobody can quote a judge saying "I find there was no fraud".

pip08456 21-11-2020 16:04
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36059235)
Well of course they haven't - they're doing that outside the court, effectively trying to have their cake and eat it. But I maintain that this strategy, of alleging fraud outside the courthouse and then not submitting fraud allegations inside the courthouse, is de facto the same thing. They've had the chance to put fraud before a judge and have repeatedly not done so, despite repeatedly alleging that there *has* been fraud. At some point you have to accept their loud, public claims of fraud have failed. Otherwise, why not present the evidence?

The Trump strategy exists solely to cause the weak-minded to assume there's no smoke without fire, and that there must be fraud because Rudi said so. And, dare I say it, because nobody can quote a judge saying "I find there was no fraud".
I agree with most of what you say but would suggest you avoid statements like this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36059217)
The argument that the election was fraudulent has now been repeatedly tested in court and found to be false.
It is factually incorrect.

Chris 21-11-2020 16:08
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Lawyer standing outside court: “this is fraud!”
Lawyer walks into court...
Judge: “Are you alleging fraud?”
Lawyer: “No”.

Variations on this have occurred repeatedly over the past fortnight. Based in this I’m comfortable with the accuracy of the statements I have made, because they tackle head on the smoke and mirrors tactics of Trump’s PR led legal team.

pip08456 21-11-2020 17:07
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Democracy in action.

https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/s...79395483164673

Paul 21-11-2020 17:52
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Please dont just link to tw*tter without some indication as to what its about, we dont all want to keep visiting that site.

papa smurf 21-11-2020 18:48
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Trump fight back BEGINS:

A $400million donation by the chief executive of Facebook Mark Zuckerberg is the focus of one of the legal challenges from the Trump team to overturn the provisional US election results.

The Sunday Express has been shown briefing notes explaining the background to 25 legal challenges being taken across the USA by campaign group Amistad Projects. It has alleged that the donations mostly went to the Center for Tech and Civic Life (CTCL) were used to boost voter fraud in key states in the election.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...egal-challenge

Hugh 21-11-2020 18:50
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059250)
Trump fight back BEGINS:

A $400million donation by the chief executive of Facebook Mark Zuckerberg is the focus of one of the legal challenges from the Trump team to overturn the provisional US election results.

The Sunday Express has been shown briefing notes explaining the background to 25 legal challenges being taken across the USA by campaign group Amistad Projects. It has alleged that the donations mostly went to the Center for Tech and Civic Life (CTCL) were used to boost voter fraud in key states in the election.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...egal-challenge
"begins"?

What has he been doing for the last two weeks, then?

Anyhoo, the Express story states
Quote:
The briefing documents note: “According to the CTCL’s own website, these funds were primarily spent on poll workers, 'temporary staffing,' and 'mail/absentee equipment/supplies.' They released this information only after we had exposed them in court and news stories about their activities started to circulate.
Except...

September 1st https://www.axios.com/mark-zuckerber...c763f9214.html
Quote:
"The more I've focused on this election, the more important I've felt it is both to make sure local counties and states have the resources they need to handle these unprecedented conditions, and that people are aware that the infrastructure is in place to make every vote count so they can accept the result of the election as legitimate," Zuckerberg told Axios.

In the joint release, Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson (D) said: "This grant will be of tremendous assistance as we work to get the word out to voters."
Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose (R) said Americans need voting information "from trusted sources, and these dollars are going to go a long way to making that happen."
The Facebook CEO and his wife committed $250 million to CTCL, which will use the money to help local jurisdictions with staffing, training and equipment.

Chan and Zuckerberg committed $50 million to CEIR, which focuses on voter education, to assist state and local election officials in making sure elections are secure, and voters have confidence in the outcomes.

papa smurf 21-11-2020 18:51
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36059251)
"begins"?

What has he been doing for the last two weeks, then?
Winding you up ;)

denphone 21-11-2020 18:54
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059252)
Winding you up ;)
What with your empty hot air...;)

Hugh 21-11-2020 18:57
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059252)
Winding you up ;)
Nah - losers don't do that...

papa smurf 21-11-2020 18:57
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36059253)
What with your empty hot air...;)
I was referring to Donald Trump's team of Lawyers.

Mr K 21-11-2020 19:51
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059255)
I was referring to Donald Trump's team of Lawyers.
What trouser fumbling Rudi ? Even the Torygraph ridicules him.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...d-lead-donald/
Quote:
Rudy Giuliani's fall from grace as Donald Trump's lawyer, punctuated this week with a truly bizarre meltdown, has been spectacular

Hugh 22-11-2020 00:18
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Another court case lost in PA, this time by Rudi...

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/...57.202.0_1.pdf
Quote:
In this action, the Trump Campaign and the Individual Plaintiffs (collectively, the “Plaintiffs”) seek to discard millions of votes legally cast by Pennsylvanians from all corners – from Greene County to Pike County, and everywhere in between. In other words, Plaintiffs ask this Court to disenfranchise almost seven million voters. This Court has been unable to find any case in which a plaintiff has sought such a drastic remedy in the contest of an election, in terms of the sheer volume of votes asked to be invalidated. One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens.

That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more. At bottom, Plaintiffs have failed to meet their burden to state a claim upon which relief may be granted. Therefore, I grant Defendants’ motions and dismiss Plaintiffs’ action with prejudice.
Quote:
Moreover, even if they could state a valid claim, the Court could not grant Plaintiffs the relief they seek. Crucially, Plaintiffs fail to understand the relationship between right and remedy. Though every injury must have its proper redress, a court may not prescribe a remedy unhinged from the underlying right being asserted.By seeking injunctive relief preventing certification of the Pennsylvania election results, Plaintiffs ask this Court to do exactly that.

Even assuming that they can establish that their right to vote has been denied, which they cannot, Plaintiffs seek to remedy the denial of their votes by invalidating the votes of millions of others. Rather than requesting that their votes be counted, they seek to discredit scores of other votes, but only for one race.This is simply not how the Constitution works.
Quote:
Curiously, Plaintiffs now claim that they seek only to enjoin certification of the presidential election results. Doc. 183 at 1. They suggest that their requested relief would thus not interfere with other election results in the state. But even if it were logically possible to hold Pennsylvania’s electoral system both constitutional and unconstitutional at the same time, the Court would not do so.
tl;dr - These are very bad arguments and you should feel bad for making them, also you don't get to make them any more, leave now and never come back.

Dude111 22-11-2020 02:44
Wow I guess all the staff on this thread do not like Donald Trump,im so sorry.......

I dont wanna cause this thread to become hot.....

TheDaddy 22-11-2020 03:49
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36059283)
Wow I guess all the staff on this thread do not like Donald Trump,im so sorry.......

I dont wanna cause this thread to become hot.....
Seem to remember you weren't a fan either...

Damien 22-11-2020 08:11
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36059282)
Another court case lost in PA, this time by Rudi...

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/...57.202.0_1.pdf



tl;dr - These are very bad arguments and you should feel bad for making them, also you don't get to make them any more, leave now and never come back.
I think this means PA will go ahead and certify Monday. Trump is running out of time.

papa smurf 22-11-2020 08:36
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36059283)
Wow I guess all the staff on this thread do not like Donald Trump,im so sorry.......

I dont wanna cause this thread to become hot.....
Vote for who you want to, it's your choice /your country and your future :tu:

Hugh 22-11-2020 09:30
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059289)
Vote for who you want to, it's your choice /your country and your future :tu:
And if Donald doesn’t like your choice, he will try to get your vote invalidated with no evidence... ;)

papa smurf 22-11-2020 09:47
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36059290)
And if Donald doesn’t like your choice, he will try to get your vote invalidated with no evidence... ;)
Only the 17 invalid votes you cast, your 1 valid legal vote will be counted as it normally is in a none rigged election.

Mr K 22-11-2020 10:32
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059291)
Only the 17 invalid votes you cast, your 1 valid legal vote will be counted as it normally is in a none rigged election.
How have you unearthed evidence of this fraud from Cleethorpes ? Wouldn't just be something you've read on Twitter or weirdo websites?

papa smurf 22-11-2020 10:38
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36059292)
How have you unearthed evidence of this fraud from Cleethorpes ? Wouldn't just be something you've read on Twitter or weirdo websites?
It came from the highest office in the USA .

I don't use twitter/ face book etc the only access i have to weirdo's is the one I am having right now;)

Maggy 22-11-2020 11:09
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
How about we wait for some real news and pack in the banter and chat.

Hugh 22-11-2020 15:32
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/22/trum...a-recount.html
Quote:
ATLANTA — President Donald Trump’s campaign said Saturday it is seeking a second recount of presidential election votes in Georgia after the first one did not turn out in his favor.

Under state election rules the campaign is within its rights; the first hand recount, completed Thursday and certified Friday, had been automatically triggered by a new state law.

Campaigns can request an additional machine recount if a vote margin is within 0.5 percent. The final certified results had Joe Biden at 49.51 percent compared to Trump at 49.25 percent for a margin of 0.26 percent.

“Today, the Trump campaign filed a petition for recount in Georgia,” the campaign said in a statement. “We are focused on ensuring that every aspect of Georgia State Law and the U.S. Constitution are followed so that every legal vote is counted.”

Mad Max 22-11-2020 16:03
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36059294)
How about we wait for some real news and pack in the banter and chat.
It really is a bad day when you cant have a bit of banter, lighten up!

Paul 22-11-2020 16:33
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36059303)
It really is a bad day when you cant have a bit of banter, lighten up!
Tut, arguing with a mod is never a good plan :nono:

To be clear, a bit of banter is fine, but the topic does need to stay on track as well, which was the point here. :)

jfman 22-11-2020 16:35
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
The outgoing President is delivering enough banter on topic without us going out our way to add to it. :)

1andrew1 22-11-2020 16:45
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36059305)
The outgoing President is delivering enough banter on topic without us going out our way to add to it. :)
You might call it banter. The word I'm thinking of also begins with a B but is more agricultural. ;)

daveeb 22-11-2020 19:02
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36059306)
You might call it banter. The word I'm thinking of also begins with a B but is more agricultural. ;)
:D He certainly has an impressive output of the stuff.

Itshim 22-11-2020 19:13
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
What ever you guys think .we have just changed our reg offices from Delaware to US virgin islands .Not happy about Biden coming to office .Batten down the hatches! Rough times are coming :(

pip08456 22-11-2020 19:17
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Georgia will conduct another recount of its presidential ballots following a Trump campaign request Saturday, but the recount is extremely unlikely to change his loss in the state.

Link

1andrew1 22-11-2020 20:18
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Putin says he's not ready to recognize Biden as US President

On Sunday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said while he’s ready to work with any U.S. leader, he still isn’t ready to recognize the election victory of Joe Biden.

"We will work with anyone who has the confidence of the American people,” Putin said on Russian TV earlier today.

"But that confidence can only be given to a candidate whose victory has been recognized by the opposing party, or after the results are confirmed in a legitimate, legal way."

Putin described the Kremlin’s decision not to congratulate Biden as "a formality" with no ulterior motives. And in an amusing twist, when asked if the move could damage U.S.-Russia relations, Putin said: "there’s nothing to damage, they’re already ruined."

A Kremlin spokesperson previously said Putin wouldn’t recognize Biden’s win until legal challenges mounted by President Trump's campaign immediately after Election Day were resolved in court.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...n-us-president

papa smurf 22-11-2020 21:29
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36059338)
Even Joe's mate vlad thinks he's done a bad thing.

pip08456 22-11-2020 21:34
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
I can't wait!

Quote:
Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell:

“Georgia is probably going to be the first state I’m going to blow up ... [the filing in the state] will be Biblical”.

Hugh 22-11-2020 21:47
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059345)
Even Joe's mate vlad thinks he's done a bad thing.
:spin::spin:

Now we know who Rudi Guiliani gets his legal advice from... :D

1andrew1 22-11-2020 22:19
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059345)
Even Joe's mate vlad thinks he's done a bad thing.
:D:D:D
I think Trump might be annoyed with you for gifting his mate to the incoming President.

TheDaddy 22-11-2020 23:38
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36059347)
I can't wait!
And then, just like that she was gone, the only thing she blew up was her own job, good work

Maggy 23-11-2020 08:59
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059345)
Even Joe's mate vlad thinks he's done a bad thing.
However it's not up to him..

Chris 23-11-2020 09:05
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Still, at least the ongoing lunacy affords YouTubers with creative opportunities. :D



I’ve seen quite a few Paula White mash ups over the past week or so but this one’s probably the best so far.

Damien 23-11-2020 09:27
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
That Tucker comment about the left wanting 'you' to drink Starbucks 'from now till forever' is a big misreading of the left. The left would rather you drink Oat Milk Flat Whites from a local artisan coffee place.

1andrew1 23-11-2020 09:44
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36059362)
However it's not up to him..
Funny how the only main people who haven't congratulated Biden are Trump and Putin. ;)

papa smurf 23-11-2020 09:49
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36059365)
Funny how the only main people who haven't congratulated Biden are Trump and Putin. ;)
That's because the contest isn't officially over yet, the media don't run the election they only think they do.

Mr K 23-11-2020 09:53
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059366)
That's because the contest isn't officially over yet, the media don't run the election they only think they do.
All votes have been counted, and recounted. Nothing going to change old chap

I get the impression Vladimir is more gutted than Trump. Some Russian social media hackers will be on a one way Siberia trip. Does that include you comrade ? ;)
.

Sephiroth 23-11-2020 10:46
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059366)
That's because the contest isn't officially over yet, the media don't run the election they only think they do.
I'm very disappointed in what I'm reading from you on Trump.

On every other topic (as far as I recall), you and I are completely aligned meaning that you are a clear thinker.

.... Until we come to this Trump thing. Sorry, Papa.

Hugh 23-11-2020 10:51
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059366)
That's because the contest isn't officially over yet, the media don't run the election they only think they do.
Funny, it was accepted 4 years ago with the same number of forecast Electoral College Votes...

But I’m sure "that was different", Tovarisch Папы смурф

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36059372)
I'm very disappointed in what I'm reading from you on Trump.

On every other topic (as far as I recall), you and I are completely aligned meaning that you are a clear thinker.

.... Until we come to this Trump thing. Sorry, Papa.
Or....

You are a clear thinker on this topic... ;)

papa smurf 23-11-2020 11:10
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36059373)
Funny, it was accepted 4 years ago with the same number of forecast Electoral College Votes...

But I’m sure "that was different", Tovarisch Папы смурф

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Or....

You are a clear thinker on this topic... ;)
Now now children you seem to forget i am just an impartial observer, I only report what is in the media I don't actually write it.

Chris 23-11-2020 11:12
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059379)
Now now children you seem to forget i am just an impartial observer, I only report what is in the media I don't actually write it.
There's so much wrong with this it's unreal :spin:

1andrew1 23-11-2020 13:59
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059379)
Now now children you seem to forget i am just an impartial observer, I only report what is in the media I don't actually write it.
Alas, your limited choice of media (Australian shock jocks and the click-hungry Trump-adoring Express) and exclusively pro-Trump stories kick the impartial observer stance into touch.

papa smurf 23-11-2020 14:10
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36059401)
Alas, your limited choice of media (Australian shock jocks and the click-hungry Trump-adoring Express) and exclusively pro-Trump stories kick the impartial observer stance into touch.
Andrew you wound me, i have gone out of my way to source unbiased news articles on the election fraud in the USA:(

1andrew1 23-11-2020 14:31
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059404)
Andrew you wound me, i have gone out of my way to source unbiased news articles on the election fraud in the USA:(
You've literally gone to the other end of the World to locate the last remains of the Trump-supporting media.

But what lengths have you gone to, to determine that your articles and sources are unbiased?

Sephiroth 23-11-2020 14:34
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059404)
Andrew you wound me, i have gone out of my way to source unbiased news articles on the election fraud in the USA:(
Ah - I see it now. You're being a pixie! I just laughed to myself looking at the reactions.

Paul 23-11-2020 15:13
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Lets move on shall we, before someone says a little too much and ends up in trouble :)

Hugh 23-11-2020 17:13
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36059347)
I can't wait!

Quote:
Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell:

“Georgia is probably going to be the first state I’m going to blow up ... [the filing in the state] will be Biblical”.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36059356)
And then, just like that she was gone, the only thing she blew up was her own job, good work
Even though she was fired, Sidney Powell should refuse to accept it, and just continue insisting that she's Trump's lawyer anyway. :D

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https://eu.jsonline.com/story/news/p...te/6382647002/
Quote:
The attorney leading President Donald Trump’s recount effort in Wisconsin voted illegally according to his own legal argument that in-person absentee ballots should be thrown out. So did his wife.

Jim Troupis, a former Dane County judge and Cross Plains attorney who is representing the Trump campaign, would not answer questions about why he and his wife voted that way.

Troupis and his wife voted early using the state's in-person absentee option — one of a group of voters whose ballots the Trump campaign has asked election officials to deem illegal.

Their names appeared on exhibits Troupis submitted to the Dane County Board of Canvassers on Sunday, during the county's third day of retallying ballots. The exhibits include lists of voters who voted in a manner the campaign alleges is illegal, an argument the Board of Canvassers has rejected. The information was provided by Dane County to both campaigns.
:D

1andrew1 23-11-2020 17:17
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36059422)
Even though she was fired, Sidney Powell should refuse to accept it, and just continue insisting that she's Trump's lawyer anyway. :D

---------- Post added at 17:13 ---------- Previous post was at 16:52 ----------

https://eu.jsonline.com/story/news/p...te/6382647002/

:D
Mad as a box of frogs! :D

papa smurf 23-11-2020 17:56
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
“can’t wait” until Joe Biden gets hold of the nuclear codes


https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6211490864001

Mad Max 23-11-2020 18:32
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059429)
“can’t wait” until Joe Biden gets hold of the nuclear codes


https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6211490864001

:D:D

Hugh 23-11-2020 19:16
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059429)
“can’t wait” until Joe Biden gets hold of the nuclear codes


https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6211490864001
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1606158955

Meanwhile, back in reality...

https://www.kgun9.com/news/election-...ures-biden-win
Quote:
Last Arizona county OKs election tally, assures Biden win

PHOENIX (AP) — Elected leaders in the last Arizona county to certify its results from the Nov. 3 election have signed off on their tally.

Monday's unanimous vote by the Mohave County Board of Supervisors sets the stage for state leaders to formalize Democratic presidential candiate Joe Biden’s historic win in the Grand Canyon State.

OLD BOY 23-11-2020 20:19
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059429)
“can’t wait” until Joe Biden gets hold of the nuclear codes


https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6211490864001
Yes, I'm sure he will sleepwalk going through the instructions.

Maggy 23-11-2020 20:39
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Pack it in. Paul has already suggested that everyone calms down.

Paul 23-11-2020 20:48
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059429)
“can’t wait” until Joe Biden gets hold of the nuclear codes
Out of interest, have you ever tried to read an autocue.

I have, and its not as easy as you might think :)

Damien 23-11-2020 21:37
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Michigan will vote to certify it's results.

Hugh 23-11-2020 21:41
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36059452)
Michigan will vote to certify it's results.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...results-439691
Quote:
President Donald Trump’s push to subvert the 2020 election results took a potentially fatal hit Monday, as election officials in Michigan certified President-elect Joe Biden’s victory in the state and more key battlegrounds prepare to formalize Biden’s wins.

Michigan’s state Board of Canvassers certified the vote with three yes votes and one abstention, a bipartisan decision affirming Biden’s victory over Trump by more than 155,000 votes.

The typically routine exercise took on new significance this year after Trump and his allies pressured the board’s two Republicans to reject certification and seek a delay in order to investigate “irregularities” in Detroit’s vote counting — allegations that are not supported by any evidence of wrongdoing. Republicans have also pushed officials in other states to delay certification and have challenged the election results in court, mostly resulting in a string of legal losses.

Despite the public pressure, one of the two Republican board members joined the Democratic board members to certify the state’s election results, tossing aside the president’s attempts to slow the process down in the critical battleground state. Republican Norm Shinkle voted not to certify the results, something he had indicated he would do in interviews leading up to the vote.

But Aaron Van Langevelde, a lawyer for the state legislature’s House GOP caucus, joined Democrats Jeannette Bradshaw and Julie Matuzak in certifying the results. Van Langevelde argued at the meeting that state law requires the board certify results, and it didn’t have the authority to demand an audit or otherwise delay the results.

“I’ve reviewed the law here. It's not complicated, it is very simple,” Van Langevelde said during a back-and-forth with Charlie Spies, an attorney representing Republican John James, who lost to Sen. Gary Peters (D-Mich.) and is also seeking to delay certification. “We’re required to canvass the returns and determine the results. I’ve reviewed every section, I haven’t found anything about an audit, I’ve found nothing about the authority for us to delay certification because we’re waiting for more accurate results.”

Dave42 23-11-2020 23:11
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
(CNN)The General Services Administration has informed President-elect Joe Biden that the Trump administration is ready to begin the formal transition process, according to a letter from Administrator Emily Murphy sent Monday afternoon and obtained by CNN.

This is a breaking story and will be updated.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/23/p...gin/index.html

1andrew1 23-11-2020 23:48
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
This is bizzare! Trump talking sbout how a turkey named Carrots demanded a re-count on Thanksgiving. Is Carrots Trump?
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/stat...97805536608256

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36059458)
(CNN)The General Services Administration has informed President-elect Joe Biden that the Trump administration is ready to begin the formal transition process, according to a letter from Administrator Emily Murphy sent Monday afternoon and obtained by CNN.

This is a breaking story and will be updated.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/23/p...gin/index.html
Good news for the USA.


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