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But he's a very stable genius!!!

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h/t Drew Jepperson

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I expect the same outrage when this happened?

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Why is that comparable? The outrage here is that he appeared to side with Putin over his own intelligence services.

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They've certainly got something on him hence his pathetic grovelling .

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Because it is. Obama telling the Russians he effectively had more flexibility “after getting elected”, Intelligence agencies have said previous U.S Presidential elections got hacked, how do we know the 2012 election was not hacked, to help Obama, after trying to discreetly saying he would have more flexibility.

Trump is right to ask where the DNC Server is, it’s missing, the FBI never did forensically examine it. We all know the DNC and the witch, Hillary Clinton paid for the Fake Russian Dossier, and tried to mask this, therefore being dishonest.

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Well she did warn us:

Hillary Clinton: Donald Trump would be Putin's 'puppet'

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Well, well ,well - Clinton again, seems to be a pattern when thing are going bad for the Donald :D. She's an innocent woman Mick, get over it ! There's been long enough now for her to be charged if there was anything..... It's a card Trump and his followers can't keep playing to distract from his latest calamity's.

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You can't just invent a link between Obama saying he'll have more flexibility and election hacking and then saying it's comparable.

I am talking about the comparison between the comments he made and Trump defending Putin against the intelligence agencies. I am talking about that and not the wider issue of election hacking. Even Republicans who defend Trump on collusion have an issue with that press conference.

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The DNC ‘server’ was in fact a number of servers, mainly cloud-based virtual servers, and images were taken of them, as is standard practice, and given to the FBI for forensic examination.

It would have been impossible to hand over any hardware, as the virtual instances were just hosted on hardware that would have been shared with many other companies and services.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps...g-nor-a-server

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The intelligence agencies have not always been right. WMD springs to mind and if they had political players like John Brennan, C.I.A Director under Obama, totally Anti-Trump, potentially muddying the waters.

Anyway, I’m no longer interested in the Putin/Trump Press conference, I gave my opinion that was actually not agreeing with Trump and I still got bloody criticised. There was no invention, the video is there for all to see.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...o-putin-summit

What complete barstewards the media are, showing live on TV exactly what he said as he said it - how unfair is that?

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Totally unfair that the fake news mongers can show live footage and yet make it all biased and one sided.:rolleyes:

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When he said " “They think it’s Russia, I don’t see any reason why it would be.”"?

That’s a helluva "misspoke"...

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Especially since he then said many other things that suggested he believed Putin. Absurd thing. Why doesn't he just say he was being diplomatic or something?

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It gets better...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ed-in-election

So first it wasn’t Russia, now it is, but it could also be other people?

Did he also misspeak when he said

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Up to the US people at the end of the day. If they re-elect this idiot then good luck to them, they'll need it. What worries me is that we're depending in him for a trade deal; hopefully a new US president by then, ideally someone like that nice Mr Obama, or maybe innocent Hillary will run again ;)

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Obama cannot run again. Thankfully - he is too busy moaning he has too much money to "African" Audiences, like he did earlier today. :rolleyes:

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I said 'like that nice Mr Obama' ;)

What about Mickey Mouse ? He's got some great policies and they'll vote for anyone. Trump would have his work cut out against Mickey.

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I think it's all down to him never having prepared a speech and just trying to wing it and just saying what pops into his brain.

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The man is an absolute farce.

No it wasn't the Russians and now he said he spoke the wrong words, lmao.

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Interesting redaction from his semi-retraction speech.

Trump apparently crossed out the phrase “anyone involved in that meddling to justice” out of his typed comments...

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Moron is probably a more accurate description?

I wonder how many of his core supporters are now in a quandary? On the one hand they voted for Trump but on the other they would consider themselves patriots and Putin is their instinctive foe. Siding with Putin against Americans would not be an easy thing for them to accept.

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Resolving that dichotomy is easy for them - they just repeat Trump's mantra of "fake news".

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You mean the words Trump spoke out of his mouth were fake, or dubbed on by the fake media ? Personally I don't think the Russia trip happened at all, and it all mass fake hysteria caused by Clinton and/or Obama ;)

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Dichotomy, dichotomy, they all want to put their dichotomy!

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The 12 Russians who were indicted by Robert Mueller last week will not see the light of day in a U.S Court room, it's just window dressing at it's finest by the Special Counsel. The timing of his announcement was suspicious though.

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A bit like Comey's annoncement of the email investigation re-opening then.

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And his not mentioning that members of the Trump Campaign were subject to a FBI counterintelligence investigation into links between the Trump campaign and the Russian government from July 2016...

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Everyone knows Russia won't extradite but that doesn't stop the justice process getting as far as it can.

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That might be because the two investigations were vastly different, Candidate Trump was not personally under investigation, Hillary Clinton was. Comey was wrong to make public announcements on Clinton, the DOJ IG was very critical of Comey’s actions.

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Are they all that stupid? I think not ..

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No, but enough of them are it seems.

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This was on a Russian State TV discussion programme on Tuesday.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wmgHe3...outu.be&t=2842 (in Russian)

Seems a very strange thing for a host on Russian State TV to say - their output is controlled by the Russian Government, and they are never critical of Putin.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/u...rump-tape.html

The FBI have a recording of Trump discussing the payments to the playboy model before the election. This seems to explain why they raided Cohen’s office.

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But the Collusion ???

Trump's current lawyer, Rudy Giuliani confirms such a tape does exist but reaffirms, no payments were ever made by Trump, so he says.

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He would not make payments himself even he's not that stupid. Way and means. But the dirt just just keeps coming up from his past, and the present isn't too clever for him either.
An invite for his mate Putin to visit the US? I see that's gone down well !! He just doesn't have a clue. Nixon looks to be an angel in comparison.

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This is a different investigation. Hence why Mulleur handed it off.

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The only crime I see is the illegal leaking of attorney client privilege information seeping from either the FBI or Muellers SC team, to the NYT.

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You need a need a new pair of specs Mick, yours are incredibly tinted ;)

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Nah mine are very clear. Go read law on Attorney client privilege. Rather than spouting Trump Derangement Syndrome crap.

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Ok but the FBI are also investigating and have access to more information than you do since it's their case.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44976725

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You know, I think Donald might just be a liar, or incredibly forgetful......

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Trump’s lawyer yesterday about Cohen Trump’s lawyer on May 6th about Cohen

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It is strange that everyone Trump has any dealings with, always ends up being a liar.

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Just like Trump then.

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What the hell is going on with all these broken quote tags in the last few posts ?

Needs sorting so I and others can tell who is saying what.

Now on to the topic, if there is one - that said looks more like "Trump derangement syndrome' has hit the thread as per usual again....

Some GOOD news that I will share that trounces all the pathetic negativity above - U.S GDP is up to 4.1%, that's fairly impressive given the never-Trumpers said he'd never get above 3% as President. :rolleyes:

A Steel factory in Illinois has reopened creating jobs jobs jobs - one steel worker was in tears at getting his old job back and thanked President Trump for making the changes to regulations that crippled and stifled the economy under the last President.

No-one gives a shit about Cohen, well, I know I don't. Taping your clients without their knowledge, may just get him barred from practicing law ever again. The legal analysis that I presume, taping clients without their knowledge, seriously impugns his character, and in this case, this invalidating his testimony as unreliable.

The Russia Witch hunt headed by Angry Democrats and Robert Mueller, the political hit job set up by the lying Hillary Clinton, who along with the DNC, paid for the fake Russian dossier (this the real collusion) and that was used without verification, in a FISA warrant (highly illegal, sources have to fully verified, the FISA warrant used the Media as verification, big no no no!!!).

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‘Trump Derangement Syndrome” = people pointing out what Trump, or his legal or political representatives said at one time, then pointing out what they said later completely contradicts the first thing they said...

OK, your Honour, I plead guilty.

Legally, in New York, it is legal for one party in a conversation to record others without their permission - you would have thought Trump’s lawyers would know that...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6f0bf712dd17 And just in case - but what about her emails........

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Trump derangement syndrome = pointing out that Trump is a liar and totally deranged.

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No that’s not the definition from you or Hugh. try again. :rolleyes:

Good news about the GDP under Trump, yes no, does it really hurt to give any credit at all?

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No Hugh, her NOT being President will do for me. The world dodged a bullet with that Crooked witch.

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Dodged a bullet but got a nuclear warhead in the shape of Trumpton.

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More rubbish.

You really should take note the efforts of denuclearisation of North Korea, thanks to Trump, remains of US soldiers received from NK as of this morning, more good news courtesy of Trump Admin, didn’t happen under Obama, wouldn’t have happened under the witches Presidency, had she won.

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If the denuclearisation happens. It doesn't appear they've started work on it not is it clear what the next step is. I am skeptical of North Korea in general.

If it doesn't happen then Trump gave military war games away and gave them the photo-op they wanted. I mean Obama could have given them that, Elevating a murderous dictator and giving him a propaganda win. He has to get something more concrete for his efforts. That photo of Trump shaking the hands of Kim while the American flag flies alongside the North Korean flag will not age well if it wasn't the start of something.

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Dismantling of their missile test sites has occurred, North Korea has been fairly committed to stick to the diplomatic route, they sent home the remains of 55 U.S personnel soldiers, released hostages and blown up test sites, removed Anti-American propaganda around the country. So if peace is a lasting result of one photo op, it’s worth it, least if Trump gets his Nobel Peace prize, he got it because he deserved it, unlike Obama.

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We are seeing what the North Koreans want us to see.

Some satellite photos of a 'test' site being taken apart. As well as a publicity stunt.

I don't trust that country at all.

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No one is being asked to Trust them, they have to earn it first. So far they have been the most diplomatic they have ever been.

Released U.S hostages, released remains of U.S soldiers as of yesterday, removed Anti- American propaganda around the country for first time.

I think the U.S Intelligence agencies can tell if the test sites they are blowing up are fake or not.

The Never-Trumpers need to start realising, Trump is not going anywhere soon. He has maintained his resilience than any other president. All the knock backs, all the negative hysteria would have destroyed any other president. Trump doesn’t care about the haters, he has his rock solid base and it is still growing.

The Democrats are in trouble, they are straying to the far left, want open borders, they introduced a bill the other week to abolish ICE, the border control agency, they are out of their frigging minds, I mean they were before having Crooked Hillary as a candidate, but now with the likes of Bernie Sanders, he’s a Jeremy Corbyn type, very socialistic with his policies. Long time Democratic voters are walking away from them in droves and so they should.

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Hilary is not crooked.

That was proven.

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I beg to differ, she along with the DNC paid for the Fake Russian Dossier, that was “illegally” used as a source in a FISA warrant, to spy on Trump Campaign and I say “illegal” because the claims in the Dossier are unverified. The FISA warrant used a Media outlet as a means to try verify the Dossier. A Second Special Prosecutor would have a field day with the statutes violated here.

So yes, she’s Crooked.

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One test site was taken down but that was the one which seems as if was close to collapse and this occurred before Trump's 'deal' with them. They released hostages before under Obama too. The remains of soldiers in the Korean War is good though.

However N.Korea do not appear to be denuclearising: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-t-come-cheap

On top of the fact there is no progress in them giving up the weapons they don't seem to have slowed production of existing ones. Earlier on in the thread we talked about how activity is increasing in one of their plants.

Trump is a long way from the peace prize. There needs to be tangible change in North Korea for that to happen.

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We've been here before. This is not the first diplomatic success we've had with North Korea that failed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreed_Framework

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/19/w...r-efforts.html

Every 10 or so years we have a great agreement with them and then nothing happens.

He is the President of the United States. We're not One Direction or Taylor Swift fans arguing over which one is better.

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No but I can point out the silly Trump hysteria that routinely shows it’s head in here, it’s not much of topic when the same crap gets repeated, “Trumps an idiot.” “Trumpton is a liar” “Trump this” “Trump that”, Obama made plenty of mistakes in his presidency, I don’t remember him having a long running thread on here.

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Trump's a more divisive character than Obama ever was and his factual accuracy is well below Obama's. That makes for a more lively and lengthy debate.

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I would have to completely disagree with that - America was divisive during the Obama Admin - remember, Black lives matter formed under his Administration, not Trump's - There will still be a divide long after Trump leaves office in 2020/2024. If Trump is removed from Office before an election cycle - there will be the next American Civil war, bit like if Brexit does not happen here, there will be riots and civil unrest here.

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Sorry, I mean divisive in terms of people's opinions of him - he's a Marmite character.

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And most sane people hate Marmite ;)

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Love Bovril myself.

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Love it myself

Those who don't like it do seem to have a taste for sour grapes .

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So North Korea are working on new ICBMs apparently.

North Korea 'working on new missiles', US officials say - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-45015343

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Stuff happening again with Mueller .

On Monday a new line of defence was taken up: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...point-56919853

Saying collusion is not a crime (in truth, at the article above states, it depends).

Now Trump is telling Sessions to end the investigation 'right now'. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=56962100

Not sure if this is a sign the investigation has taken a turn or anything.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...et-queen-says/

Why does he lie about silly things like this? We all saw the Queen on live TV waiting for over 10 minutes for him - were he and Melania hiding behind the planters?

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...8&d=1533298114

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The BBC said he was on time. Cannot post link at the moment but it's on www.bbc.co.uk/news

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-45058002

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Please be upstanding for the respected President of the United States of America:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...29583672307712

I wonder when the last POTUS called a (black) woman a "dog" as a Presidential official statement?

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To be fair, Ormaroso is not even fit to be called a dog...

I have to admit, I don't like Tamara Holder's views on abortion much but the minute that she started talking about Tamara's boobs on air, I about gave up on the woman ever saying anything productive:

Get to about 1 20 in the clip or so.

(No nudity but it is probably not safe for work if your employer is leery of retards):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVfh_34YX_4

It does raise some very serious questions as to why Trump would hire someone for a 4th time, having fired her 3 times on a reality TV show, before. This job is actually serious.

Then there is the security element which former DNI head James Clapper addressed:

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/13/p...ngs/index.html

https://hotair.com/headlines/archive...s-unthinkable/

Clapper's comments are spot on.

You just don't do what she did - which raises questions abiut the internal security set up at the WH.

This even led to Michael Cohen saying that she was full of shit:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ivists-it.html

Cohen flipped on Trump and even he was like "woah, no way did I see that" (or words to that effect) when she tried to use him as a corroborative witness.

I have as many issues with Trump on certain issues as anyone but that piece of filth as never anyone I would use as an example of it. Almost everyone on the planet disapproves of her role in this, and the biggest criticism of Trump is that he hired her in the first place (so many times lol).

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I agree her actions are completely inappropriate, and probably illegal (taking a recording device into a SCIF), but the language by Trump is not appropriate, especially in an official statement (which the White House said his tweeted were).

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When has it ever been, though? In that sense, it is no different with her, just a lot more justified...

In regards to the recordings, a bunch of states have one party recording laws where they are violations unless both parties consent but that (I think) is just for phone calls not just a call spoken in person but I will have to double check / get back to you on that.

After Watergate it did lead to the WPA and what not, but the biggest issue in communication came from within the issue of whether digitized communication differed from in person. Loads of states (20+) have remedied this but at the federal level it never will be as it requires altering / defining the 4th amendment, which will never be done.

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Very true. It is patently obvious that she was not fit to work in the White House which sort of compounds Trump's mistakes here as, surely, he was part of the decision making process to appoint her.

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Very true as we live in hyper partisan times...same through the Bush years, too. (Over Iraq etc).


Maybe the odd kook but we'll never see it on a large scale here...mostly because we're a very passive people.

If Trump is removed in a form that involves violence (assassination etc), then yes...there will be all kinds of hell to pay in the 48 contiguous states.

If it is through more traditional methods (impeachment for example) it'll depend on the legitimacy of the (for example) trial in the senate. If it doesn't look like a total stitch up or a very partisan vote then it should keep the peace.

If it looks like a dud vote, then yes a show trial will lead the WN's out and there could be riots in the streets.

Same will never happen here though, and it is a given that in some way shape or form, we're either not going to leave the EU or totally mess up leaving.

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Trump calls a lot of people dog for some reason, it's one of his phrases.

Her actions were very inappropriate. Apparently it wasn't illegal which itself is bizarre. Taping inside the situation room?! It's an egregious national security risk. Not to mention how is anyone meant to govern if they can't speak candidly just in case one of their co-workers is recording them?

She was well out of line.

Trump certainly deserves some blame too since it was never clear what on earth her credentials were to work in the White House other than she was on TV with him. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

The language of the Tweet won't be a problem for him, people are used to that. The hiring decision won't be a problem, people are used to that too. The real question is if any of these tapes exist. The racial one was rumoured in the run up to the election in 2016. However you always get these rumours during an election. In the run up to the 2012 election the internet had this big rumour of Michelle Obama using racist words which never came up.

So we'll see. At the moment the bigger story to me is the national security issue.

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Even I have to agree calling an ex-Aide a "dog" is highly inappropriate and far from presidential, although I am not surprised that Trump is more unhinged these days, after the constant attacks from every angle and plus, he is getting over confident attacking the Russia investigation, attacking Jeff Sessions at least twice in the last few week, he if he is not careful he will give Mueller the ammunition he needs to put a case forward for Obstruction of Justice by constantly attacking the DOJ and the people involved in the investigation.

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It’s the fact she took a recording device into the White House Situation Room, which is a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility, which is an enclosed area within a building that is used to process Sensitive Compartmented Information types of classified information).

It is illegal to do so (I used to work with GCHQ and NSA, and have friends/colleagues who still do, and they have to leave their phones/tablets outside their place of work (in a secure locker)).

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He and Don Jr both seemed concerned about that but no way does it rise to the level of collusion in any way shape or form, sorry.

Not even close.

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The problem is that she may not have taken a "recording device" and just a phone and ripped it off her phone...in the security room it has a notice that says "please check your phone" but that is it.

Also to be in an SCIF area you generally need a TSI or above clearance and if that is so then she either was not vetted correctly and or is in violation of her duties / or she shouldn't be in the situation room, in the first place.

(Hubby spent like a decade in national security...he couldn't just whisk me into the SR unless I was pre cleared - or so he says lol).

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Bingo...his mouth seems to be his own worst enemy in regards to Sessions etc.

Don't think that calling her dog is really an issue in the larger scheme of things though. If he had called her a "dawg" his detractors would have accused him of being a racist. If he said she was rabid in her words, how would that have been any different?

She is a piece of filth and has always been one.

Is it Presidential to call her a dog? Who cares.

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One thing is for sure - it's just going to get more wacky over there with the Mid-Terms coming up, it will be like the 2016 Presidential election all over again, fresh accusations, new scandals that have been potentially saved to nearer the time and it's not as if we can get away from the bullshit over here with the scare stories on Brexit, they will increase tenfold as well as Brexit day draws near.

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*Applauds*

Outstanding post - absolutely spot on.

This is weird, it is an issue that seems to have some of his supporters saying that he messed up and a majority of his detractors supporting him, over her.

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I am not supporting him as much as saying her recording in the situation room is a bigger story than this tweet. If any of these tapes service maybe they'll be a bigger story but who knows.

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To be honest with the high court vacancy with Kennedy calling it quits, Trump's nominee to the high court is incredibly important.

So for now, I don't care if he goes and eats a dog on live TV and then calls it fake news. All that matters is that we get Roe overturned.

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This story, like most others, is part of the "anything to smear Trump" media campaign. Yes, Trump says a lot of controversial stuff. He's created a whole brand around being brash and controversial. That he's US president now isn't so much a commentary on him as it is on how frustrated Americans are with professional politicians. Many Americans are simply sick and tired of typical politicians that pat you on the back with one hand and pick your pocket with the other. They generally see Trump as a "straight shooter" who, while far from diplomatic, isn't there to screw them or stab them in the back.

With specific regard to Omarosa, she's writing a book and likely planned to write a book from day one. This kind of publicity is priceless when it comes to selling that book. Maybe she'll take a slap on the wrist for recording in the Situation Room but that aspect alone is probably good for another million copies sold.

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The ends justifies the means, eh?

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Hardly...I am just saying that for now I am happy to let things slide so that Kavanaugh can be confirmed (the most qualified nominee of my lifetime) and then if there are legitimate gripes then they can be addressed later.

In this specific instance though, there isn't one - she can go take a running jump.

She is doing what even Hillary Clinton couldn't manage.

Making me sympathetic towards Donald Trump.

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Sarah Sanders today said she "can't guarantee" there is no tape of Trump saying a racial slur. Obviously she could just be protecting herself but it seems either his staff, or the lot of them, think it might be out there.

Personally I don't think it would have been kept under wraps this long. It would be amazing if such a thing existed, was in the hands of someone outside of Team Trump, and not be released before the election.

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Latest theory on the Trump Tower meeting. "A Democrat setup".

https://www.realclearinvestigations....e_a_setup.html

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Yeah, I don't think it does either. That being said, the AH tapes practically got the man elected so you never know, people might be worried about this helping Trump.

One thing...I don't get this at all. If she wanted to do so much to get Trump, why did she not talk about this, explain what happened and then let everyone ridicule her / claim that it is fake news. Then release the tapes after a few days. This way, it just looks like she claims that they said it, they did, she shoes the proof and simultaneously comes off as the bad guy at the same time....wtf?

Any ideas, anyone?

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I don't think the other tapes helped him they just didn't hurt him that much. I would say the same here but while his supporters may overlook it I think it would further damage him with people who voted for him but don't like him.

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Yeah that's why I thought that the original lot would do so much good - everyone who was voting for him lacked enthusiasm / was only doing it because he was running against Hillary etc.

This gave them the "enthusiasm" factor. I have posted most of my links to predictions here before but this one would be horrendously offensive. (It basically states that the perfect motivational drive for nationalists who liked Trump was some good ole fashioned sexual deviancy, and, he won! Luther cleaned most of it up - I used to be quite an angry poster back in the day lol)

I do agree that this won't help him win over any converts but my basic theory was that he would never win re-election unless he ran against Hillary again...I think that is still accurate but he has done some things to offset that, which may turn out the base.

He is doing some good things (tax cuts / SC nominees / Jerusalem etc) so in that sense Luther is spot on - DC needed a shake up because establishment Republicans would never managed to have achieved that without such an outsider!!!


https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2018/08/9.jpg


Don't worry I am not trolling him - he picks at me way more than I ever pick at him!

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So, just to carry on with this nonsense with one special little kook...even Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert roasted her, and they hate Trump. First, Kimmel:

I really need to change back to the basic editor.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...uin-trump.html

Now this was long before the nonsense with tapes about Trump came about, and then Stephen Colbert had a 10 min monologue on her:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsTK4CUzPb8

I can't even begin to start linking to every single black person who has come out and said stuff to the effect of...well have a read:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...-against-trump

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/many-bl...rump-1.4054355

I am not going to start linking to individual(s) all calling her out for being a waste of time, space and energy but my God, she is uniting the entire country against her. She even had to admit that she was complicit in some of the behavior of Trump along the way and clearly she is not going to sell many books - no matter how much they hate Trump, people are not going to buy her book.

What a complete failure of a woman.

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The same baker is now in trouble for refusing to bake a cake for a Transgender women:

https://nypost.com/2018/08/15/baker-...sgender-order/

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A long overdue initiative to reign in the runway Market:

Elizabeth Warren unveils bold new plan to reshape American capitalism

Will the bill pass? Not a hope ..

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He is not in trouble.

Fancy that, all the cake shops in America and they went to that one asking for a cake... They knew what they were fecking doing.

A shop owner has the right to refuse service, to any person, for any reason or no reason. The Supreme court upheld his appeal early this year when he refused to bake a cake for a gay couple because it was against his religious beliefs. Now that this test has passed in the Supreme Court, the highest Court in the land, he could get substantial damages when he sues for "targeted harassment".

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Of course he was deliberately targeted.

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Actually, they can't...

https://businessadvocatelaw.com/lawy...er_bl26152.htm

You said No, the Supreme Court didn't decide for him on the basis of his religious beliefs, they decided for him because the Colorado Court had shown "hostility" towards him.