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But will it now? The space allocated for UHD services has now been removed; I think they might have had to use this space for the extra channels launched to replace the UKTV channels. Apparently, to enable facilitation of access to recordings made prior to their removal, the UKTV channels are currently taking up the same capacity as they were when they were on the customer facing EPG.

Having said that, it appears that VM Ireland customers have today lost access to their UKTV recordings, despite also being given a three month grace period like us.

This, coupled with the loss of Quest HD and further Premier Sports problems, means it hasn't been a good week for VM TV.

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I think they were just stringing you a line to try to retain your custom. UKTV have today made it clear on twitter that further negotiations are not currently taking place.

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Has Quest HD gone already??

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I wouldn't take much notice of that. Presumably, the UHD space has been utilised to deal with these transitional arrangements. They could bring it back just as easily as they have 'lost' it.

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And trains that arrive late or don't arrive at all.;)

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Looks like quest hd
Gone

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Sky Living will rebrand to Sky Witness on Monday 6th August

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Here is the answer your looking for. https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...781449#M179650

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Indeed, political polling often has a weighted “how likely are you to vote?” and has “don’t know”.

A closer comparison to BARB would be a UK General Election exit poll which, with the exception of 1992, is usually pretty decent considering it’s essentially 660 individual predictions and has to try to account for regional variations.

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JJ20X is reporting that Virgin Media UK are testing THREE more new channels.

Internal F & Internal T (Thought to be Food Network +1 & Travel Channel +1) Now Media Boy HQ know why Virgin UK Channels 296 and Virgin Channel 297 was left out on Saturday for.

Virgin Media UK are also testing the station called Internal G (Media Boy HQ feels that channel can be any of the following: Religion channel "Gospel Channel", International Channel "GEO TV", Adult channels "Get Lucky TV" or "XXX Girl Girl".)

See top of link: https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...mment_90741770

Info thanks to JJ20X and DS Forum.

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l can feel a palpable sense of excitement...;)

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Our founder is getting something from Sky then on his birthday.:D Wonder what Virgin Media will give him?

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probably nothing at all

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Some of the new channels have now been added to Virgin TV Go:

- Paramount Network
- YourTV
- Love Nature
- FreeSports

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https://www.theguardian.com/business...ccess-channels


Virgin have reached a deal with ITV,

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Does Love Nature (or any of their other channels for that matter) carry any advertising? The few programmes that I've watched didn't.

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I wonder if this is an indication that these channels will remain and that the rest are just fillers that will be quietly dropped (especially if the UKTV channels return)??

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Not that I've seen, aside from them advertising their own schedule.

It is odd watching a channel in Standard Definition which is calling itself on-screen and in voiceover LoveNature4K.

The SD picture is very good though. The HD one isn't on my pack so I can't compare.

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sky sure love there rebrands :LOL: :LOL:

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Are virgin media going to launch any of the following channels this year?

Nic Jr HD
Nick Jr + 1
Disney HD
Disney Xd HD
Disney junior HD
Disney junior + 1
Pop max
Pop max + 1
Tiny pop + 1
MTV classic
Mtv + 1
Sky one + 1
Pick + 1
Sky Atlantic
Sky Atlantic + 1
Sky Atlantic HD
Tru TV + 1
Movies for men + 1
Sony movies + 1
AMC
AMC Hd

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With all the On Demand we have access to these days, I don't really think we need the +1 channels at all anymore.

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What they imo need to do now is get all the HD varients they can. AMC dare I say Atlantic and I personally would like The Vault added.

Off course the return of UKTV would be nice for me and the rest of those who want them.

Its a shame as with the additions of some of the new channels if it were not for the UKTV channels leaving they could of boasted about improving the channel offering. Love nature HD and Paramount HD are good additions imo but the others meh.

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Not sure I agree with that. The TiVo is first & foremost a great recording box, and it's always better to have a program on your local box than be relying on the outside world for it. +1 channels do help with scheduling clashes.

OnDemand is a great insurance policy, but also if you find yourself weeks or months behind recordings for whatever reason - OnDemand is going to be limited, recordings won't be.

And didn't Sky at one point have a few +2 channels? That's taking it a bit far IMO, but the point probably stands.


That thought had crossed my mind too. There were some very good additions last week, but it was (rightly IMO) lost in the bad news.

If the dispute is resolved in the next week or so, I can see VM especially going to town with the publicity.

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Most of the new additions were either timed to launch at the same time as the withdrawal of the UKTV channels or launched specifically to try and counteract the removal.

Having said that, apart from channels being withheld from VM, if the UKTV channels return, we will have almost channel parity with Sky (excluding the ones of no interest to most people).

People mostly seem to want:

- The return of the UKTV channels.

- MTV Classics.

- Disney HD.

- Some of the football club channels.

- The missing music channels such as The Vault.

I too still find the +1 channels useful for recording clashes on occasion. They aren't going away anytime soon as it's a cheap way to increase advertising revenue.

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You missed the best ones - Sky Atlantic and AMC!

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Premier Sports have tweeted that Premier Sports 2 should be available on channel 552 from Tuesday.

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With the V6 having 6 tuners and shows repeated constantly throughout the week they are aired, the need for +1 channels is diminishing.

Shame the +1s aren't in HD too. I guess that's why I don't use them.

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As you say, record ability means I have never watched/recorded a +1 channel - the only SD channel I ever watch is Freesports (as others have said the PQ is atrocious)

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I deliberately missed out those not yet available to VM, but I suspect those would otherwise be at the top of the list.

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The introduction of Freesports HD has been delayed, despite their previous hype and advertising.

Questions put to them about this are being ignored.

I suspect the idea was for VM to launch it in HD, but because of the delay and desire to quickly get replacement channels on air, we got the SD version as an interim measure.

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Yes, but if they replaced the remaining Tivos with V6s, recording clashes would be a thing of the past.

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At peak times, sometimes even 6 tuners isn't enough though. (I prefer to record things as opposed to watching it on demand and there isn't any on demand for radio on VM).

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Get another v6 box lol :D:angel:
No more clashes again.

I know the VIP package now offers 2, but joking aside, it might be worth considering another if you record lots

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I can manage 99.9% of the time with repeat showings and the +1 channels, so it wouldn't be worth paying the extra cost.

Out of interest, how much is a 2nd box? Don't you have to pay an upfront cost for it and then pay extra every month?

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I think it's either 6.99 or 7.99 a month. If you have vip you probably entitled to another one anyway.

I'm not sure about the one off costs. Sometimes they do waiver the activation fee.

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Radio Times has confirmed that Sky Cinema Hits will become Sky Cinema DC Superheroes from August 3rd til August 19th. More Sky Cinema Pop Up Channels to follow:

Channel nume - Start - End date:
DC Superheroes – 3rd August – 19th August
Denzel – 18th August – 27th August (Maybe on Sky Cinema Greats)*
Adventure – 20th August – 2nd September (Maybe on Sky Cinema Hits or Sky Cinema Action)*

*The Pop Up channels numbers to be confirmed.

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Sorry Richard do not want or miss any of these channels. In fact would quite happy if a lot of the channels just went. Most of my TV is now Netflix or BBC

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Totally agree with that, Virgin should have a clean up and dump more of the rubbish!

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Would you then expect a cut in your subs ?

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Yes, why not, they will not be paying carriage fees for the rubbish channels.

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Because they rarely drop subs , look how many rights Sky Sports and BT Sport have lost however the retail price hasn't dropped.

Anyone know why my earlier post than this has a yellow exclamation mark on it ?

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[QUOTE=muppetman11;35957326]Would you then expect a cut in your subs ?[ No but not rise would be a start!

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Virgin Media UK to launch an second 4K UHD Channel.

JJ20X is reporting that Virgin Media UK are testing Love Nature 4K.

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...-channels/p167

It starting to feel like waiting on an bus to come.

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That would be really good.

I've watched a few things on Love Nature and they have been pretty decent.

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Apparently, it refers to itself as being in 4k, but isn't. At least this will correct that.

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... It's no longer showing Love Nature 4k :(

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It's not significant, Richard. I still expect Love Nature 4K to commence on Virgin shortly.

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No Quest HD. I thought they said that this was supposed to be coming back onto VM today, after the 'test'!?

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hope it on before Saturday for the football highlights

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Football season do not start until Saturday. Maybe Virgin are waiting until August 1st to:

-Turn off V Boxes.
-Launch both Premier Sports 2 and Quest HD.

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What happened to the BT UHD channel launch? Was it supposed to be the 30th?

I can't see it on ch 531 on the v6.
Maybe I missed something

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Is it not on 555>

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Original plan was 531 but it's on 555.

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channel 555

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BT Sports 4K UHD is only on Virgin Channel 555 on both TiVo or V6 boxes.

Channel is not listed on V+ Boxes.

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I wouldn't have expected it to be on non 4k old non TiVo boxes.

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Sky viewers on Digital Spy forum says Quest HD has not even launch on Sky.

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Yeah it is. I didn't look that far down, thanks

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It is listed on the old TiVo boxes but greyed out - it is only available on a V6.

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Greyed out on TiVo boxes but we can still see what is on.

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When V boxes are greying out, does this also refer to old V HD multi room boxes too?

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Premier Sports has confirmed that Premier Sports 2 will launch on August 1st on Virgin UK Channel 552.

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Premier sports 2 SD showing for me channel 552

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yes still no quest HD yet :(

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Looking at the epg over a few days the Premier sports 2 programes are made up of Premier sports 1 and free sports channels

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I suppose they're just using filler to get it up and running for now.

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It has the Celtic game tonight.

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Having watched some content on there its a pretty good channel IMO.

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Yes, I think that this is one of the better ones out of the channels that they recently launched.

If the UKTV channels do come back, I imagine that a lot of the recent additions will be quietly dropped, but as Love Nature looks to be one of the new 4K channels I don't (hope) think that this will be one of them.

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I do not think any of the new channels will be dropped if the UKTV ones return. This is why they have duplicate epg slots if the UKTV ones return the new channels will no longer have duplicate slots and just the one slot and the UKTV channels the other slot. Thats my take on it anyway.

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The reason I say that is because some of the new channels are low value bargain basement type channels that won't get that many viewers.

Many wouldn't have appeared without VM needing quick replacements as they couldn't have afforded the carriage costs, so i'm sure that VM must have done them a deal that they couldn't have refused. I suspect that a short term contract will have been made for something like a year. They might even have agreed to carry some of the channels for free, given that they say that they have offered to carry the FTA UKTV channels for free, then, when the contracts expire they could ask them for the normal commercial rates, whilst knowing that some of them couldn't afford them. This would allow VM to say that it was the choice of the channel owners to leave the platform.

Horse & Country is a prime example as they had to come off Freesat because they couldn't afford the EPG fee.

Then, if VM don't feel that they need them anymore (especially if the UKTV channels return and some form of payment is agreed), they would most likely say something along the lines of them having such low viewer numbers that they have stopped carrying them to invest in better programming elsewhere blah blah.

There is also the fact that capacity is fast running out. Yes, they could increase capacity, but that would involve costs for new infrastructure. I think it more likely that they will follow the likes of Sky & Freeview and squeeze more channels into existing capacity. This would reduce the picture quality, so maybe this is the excuse that they will use to remove some of them??

I say some of them as I don't think that they will all be removed e.g. History HD, Paramount HD will probably stay.

I hope i'm wrong because different people like different things and more choice is always welcome, but this is what I suspect will happen.

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Quest HD is back on channel 217.

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Anything decent on this channel?

I've not really looked at it much, but another HD channel for those that watch it is always good.

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Another one bites the dust.

We have seen reports on A516Digital Twitter feed that Estuary TV will close by September.

Estuary TV is broadcasting on Virgin UK Channel 159 right now in the Lincolnshire & North Yorkshire area.

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Brilliant, That'll make more room for quality repeats......;)

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We only watch Australian gold hunter on Quest so not really a popular channel for us

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Don’t forget both Sky Sports and BT Sport show mainly repeats.;)

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I wouldn't know, I watch their live events......:)

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I’m sure some who watch UKTV watch first run shows ;)

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I wouldn't know, dinner ladies somehow doesn't appeal.....:)

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Doesn’t appeal to me really either but if Sky and Virgin continue to drop channels without reducing charges they’ll find many look to the cheaper streaming alternatives and continue with linear on Freeview or Freesat. Not everyone watches Sport.

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No they don't, but it's a huge part of their service.

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Agreed, however sky built their company on sports and in particular Premier Football.

You only have to look at the relative cost of having all sky sports channels against having all the movie channels to realise, like it or not, sports drives sky.

Similarly, BT chose to boost their to offering by getting into sports not movies.

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I'm well aware of that and fully agree but my point to Mad Max was as follows.

With the removal of pay channels more people are likely to leave , the more who leave the costlier the subscription goes for those who remain.

As an example Virgin has agreed carriage costs with BT for its Sport channel , the more people leaving requires those remaining to pay more until it can renew it's agreement at contract end.

I'm not saying losing the UKTV channels alone will have a huge impact on Virgin but at the prices both Virgin and Sky now charge they have to be cautious.

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The new channels are:

Love Nature, Paramount, Premier Sports 1 and 2, Freesports, BT Sports UK, Vice, Your TV, Zoomoo, Horse & Country. We also have IQTV on demand.

Which of these are 'low bargain basement type channels'?

Ok, you have Horse & Country, but all the other channels will please some, and personally, I would never watch Zoomoo (for children), IQTV, Vice, or any of the sports channels.

However, I would watch Love Nature and Paramount, so that's plus 2 over the UKTV channels in my book!

By the way, this is not the end. More channels are in line for the autumn and early next year, so far too early to judge at the moment.

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Premier Sports cannot be counted as it's only a short term promotion to appease people.

IQTV is pathetic, why are Full House customers subsidising the £3.49 a month charge for 6 year old repeats of The Weakest Link? This type of thing is available on the linear channels anyway.

Paramount, Freesports, Your TV, Horse & Country are FTA and/or mostly repeats and the first three should have been added as a matter of course from when they first opened.

Vice has been a ratings disaster, with Sky withdrawing funding after the first year and their HD channel closing down. Their SD channel is now run by using their online content.

Love Nature is a channel that I've enjoyed on occasion.

To say that the UKTV dispute is supposed to be about lack of VOD, which of the new channels offer VOD at all?

The only future new channels i'm aware of are two more +1 channels.

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We lose some channels and gain others. I don't see Virgin's offering being worse following the absence of the UKTV channels. Anything I watched on Alibi or W tended to be disappointing, and those were originals.

Goodbye to bad rubbish, I say.

However, I have found myself watching Love Nature and Paramount, so a plus for me.

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New channels are being added as well. Maybe it would be better to reassess later in the autumn, when the full extent of the planned changes will be known.

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I had pretty high hopes for Paramount, but it's clear to me that it's simply the same old shows being shown on a different channel in order to get their permitted minutage up for adverts. The fact that it's available in HD on VM is a plus for those that want to watch any of the programming though.

Not that Viacom are on their own in doing this, this is why ITVBe was created.

All those who have left or downgraded will have affected the projected income for VM, in particular it will have put pressure onto the business model of putting BT Sport into Full House.

Remaining customers will be expected to make up the shortfall, but there's one here who won't be.

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Maybe you should wait and see.

I know that Paramount are not showing much original material, but the repeats they are showing are nowhere near as well worn, and many of their programmes I personally have not seen. A good selection of films, as well.

I think that Love Nature and the Paramount Network alone offer better value - I am more likely to watch them than Eden and all of the UKTV channels put together.

Quality over quantity.

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I'm very happy about the Premier Sports deal. It's allowed me to watch the Rangers game via my Dad's Virgin TV Go account. Now it's over to Burnley vs. Aberdeen on BT Sport. Can't beat free sport.

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And how exactly is UKTV any better?

I'm sorry, but I don't buy your assessment of the situation.

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It's only available at no extra cost for another 6/7 weeks, but I don't blame you for using it whilst you can.

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I see no point in going over the same old ground over and over and over again.

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Well, you keep repeating your assertions while I reaffirm my views.

Let's agree to disagree!

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The channel is only good for me during the European qualifiers anyway. I only watch Rangers, Scotland and boxing. No value in me subscribing to the various channels when I can piggyback off my parents package. My Dad's cool with it. He doesn't use it anyway, he doesn't have the Internet. He's happy I'm not forking out. The beauty of streaming.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

But Virgin Media may need to keep 124 to 129 free for this:

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/consultatio...minence-regime

Ofcom says late last week: Under NEW Ofcom proposals:
*Virgin Media will be forced to promote S4C, local TV and BBC Alba (Plus make room for BBC 4 and BBC 4 HD in Scotland when BBC Scotland and BBC Scotland HD launch) up its EPG."

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BBC4 Scotland :confused:

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All the European Football football will be finished on Premier Sport by the time the free period is over.

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So are most of the UKTV channels

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I don't think anybody ever mentioned BBC4 Scotland :confused:

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The post said BBC4 IN Scotland.

The launch of the BBC Scotland channel is apparently going to mean that it gets BBC4's EPG slots so BBC4 gets bumped down (or up depending on how you look on it) the EPG.

Daft and highly annoying in my opinion, BBC4 is one of my favourite channels and although I am interested in locally made content they can continue to put it on BBC1 and BBC2 as far as I'm concerned. They should just merge this new channel with Alba as it would mean less repeats and would be cheaper to run using existing space.

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Well there is already a BBC 1 & 2 Scotland that does show different programs and a different schedule to BBC 1 & 2, so don't really think there is a need for it.

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No, there are simply stating that when BBC Scotland and BBC Scotland HD launch then BBC4 may need to move on the EPG. Nothing was mentioned about BBC4 Scotland at all.

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Five are FTA and five are pay along with all HD variants.

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Thanks for explaining.

I wondered if they were bringing back seperate feeds for the nations as BBC Choice/three used to be. In fact, moving this facility to BBC2 is what enabled BBC2 to start showing different content to the nations.

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Speaking of s4C - Does anybody know if there are plans for s4c HD on VirginMedia? I find it incredible that in 2018 - s4cHD is available for free if you have a satellite dish but not on Virgin Media.

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an often repeated statement but what's your source?