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Does that mean certain folks around here won't keep claiming that £100bn is what the UK is going to have to pay. :shrug:

:D


Anyway, I bet the armies of lawyers feasting on all this won't have any problem enforcing their hefty bill for all the work they're going to have to do unravelling the complicated matters other lawyers put in place.

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well lets 1see1 shall we

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I've not seen anyone on this forum claim that the UK will have to pay 100bn in Euros or Sterling.

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But maybe a few seeming to get a little excited about the prospect of it though, because it suits their negative Brexit agenda? I'm probably wrong though ;)

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Nah, they mentioned it because they were implying we wouldn't have to pay it at all... :D

Someone should've gone to Specsavers.... :D

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Ha ha. :)
But that's just one person, not "folks".

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I always said Europe was more racist than the UK this just proves it.

The fact there are those in the other 27 member states that don't want to be part of the EU or at least do not like the way it is going just shows that not everyone is onboard with this.

Whether this will favour the UK in the long run who knows but I certainly think there are those our there watching to see the outcome of this.

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IIRC 25 of the 27 nations agreed with the PM's offer to sort out the question of EU citizens in other countries. Only France and Germany objected - they who usually call the shots in that wonderful 'union' of nations...

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Meanwhile back on the subject of right wing extremism/Nazism simmering away in Europe:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39835609

No it's clearly not on the level of the 1930's/40's but we'd all do well to accept that it hasn't gone away and do our best to ensure it doesn't happen again.

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Who cares what language they speak in the EU? Honestly, Juncker really does seem to be trying to be offensive. What a pointless exercise.

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Maybe he should think about all the Brits who died freeing Europe twice before he opens his offensive mouth about how irrelevant the UK is.

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Population of EU = 508,191,116
Population of English speaking countries (UK, Ireland, Malta) = 70,165,229 or 13.8%
Population of English speaking countries after Brexit = 5,055,229 or 1.14%

Also, over 30x more Soviets died fighting Germany than British so should the EU cosy up to Russia more as a gesture of gratitude for what happened 70 years ago?

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do these people suddenly forget how to speak English then ?

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No, I am sure Ireland (population 4,625,885) and Malta (population 429,344) will be happy to continue speaking English. However, post Brexit, there are twice as many Catalan speakers than English

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I think you need to revise your list.

[QUOTE]List of majority native English speaking countries

The UK government classifies the following overseas countries as majority native English speaking:

Antigua and Barbuda
Australia
The Bahamas
Barbados
Belize
Canada*
Dominica
Grenada
Guyana
Ireland
Jamaica
New Zealand
St Kitts and Nevis
St Lucia
St Vincent and the Grenadines
Trinidad and Tobago
United Kingdom
United States of America

No other country may be considered as being 'majority English speaking' for visa purposes.[QUOTE].

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Wiki

Whereas:

Source

Juncker halved his audience. :rofl:

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Cosy up? Or just not go out of their way to offend like a playground brat? Bit of a difference methinks especially for someone at his level. Maybe you'd be equally happy had Juncker decided to say the Russia was increasingly irrelevant in Europe. I wouldn't because it'd be an equally insensitive and offensive remark. I'll leave the Russians to deal with that eventuality however and concentrate on the offence caused to the country I care about and the one people like Juncker have far more to be grateful for.

Much of former E Europe would probably disagree with you about being thankful to the Russians given how they chose to rule E Europe after the war. Bit of a difference between how they acted in their bit of Europe and the west did elsewhere don't you think.

Anyway if Juncker thinks the world's foremost language is irrelevant to the EU it just goes to show how deluded he is.

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By no means did I want to say that we, or the EU should cozy up to Russia but if you pull the war card out, the Soviet Unions sacrifice stats will always win that game of Top Trumps.

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[QUOTE=pip08456;35897969]I think you need to revise your list.

[QUOTE]List of majority native English speaking countries

The UK government classifies the following overseas countries as majority native English speaking:

Antigua and Barbuda
Australia
The Bahamas
Barbados
Belize
Canada*
Dominica
Grenada
Guyana
Ireland
Jamaica
New Zealand
St Kitts and Nevis
St Lucia
St Vincent and the Grenadines
Trinidad and Tobago
United Kingdom
United States of America

No other country may be considered as being 'majority English speaking' for visa purposes.None of these countries are particularly relevant for a speech about the EU at a conference on the EU at Florence's European University Institute (EUI).

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So the EU doesn't trade with the rest of the world? Fine!

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Me 'pulling the war card out' if that's what you choose to call it does not mean I don't acknowledge the huge sacrifices made by numerous other nations. However, that's totally irrelevant in the context of a debate about the very great offence caused to the UK by a jumped up EU official whose sneering attitude typifies the mentality which helped lead to Brexit in the first place. He could have just given his speech in French and no even mentioned English bu he couldn't resist the opportunity to insult.

It's really not necessary for us, each and every time we mention the major role the UK played in 2 world wars, to qualify that fact. It's perfectly obvious that without the UK, US and Russia's involvement, the Nazis would now be running the show but people from all around the globe fought and died. Juncker wasn't deliberately offending them though was he.


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No they'll henceforth conduct their all negotiations in French. :D

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If it was a speech on global trade, then great, but it wasn't, it was a speech about the EU and its' position in the world. Here's the transcript - http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release...17-1238_fr.htm

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So the EU's position in the world is "If you want to speak to us don't use English."

That's a large section of the world to alienate.

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It was a deliberate insult to the UK - that's what it was. It was puerile, unnecessary, unhelpful and the sure sign of someone dedicated to raising tensions between the EU and the UK, not calming them. Furthermore, had it been delivered by someone of similar standing in the UK there's a few folks here whose EU blinkers won't allow them to condemn Juncker yet would have been jumping up and down whining about the UK's grievous insult to the EU. Double standards or what.

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I agree to an extent, it was indeed unhelpful to say it, even if it was meant as a joke to an international audience. I wouldn't say the UK has been keeping a clean sheet either.

Personally, I think it's time for a bit of a reboot and ask for everyone to start behaving like adults and be aware that this is being played out on an international stage with the world watching. I look forward to all the pre-match weigh in posturing ending and the real negotiations starting after the general election. It will be a fascinating exercise in diplomacy and negotiation.

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Blah blah blah juncker is a prat let him prattle on to his hearts content in fact put a mic on him 24 hours a day to catch his every ignorant comment he's doing wonders just not in the way he thinks.

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It was not meant as a joke.

The UK has clearly been trying to keep things on an even keel - only shortly before this dinner, Theresa May was telling us all that there would be no running commentary, and clearly she was attempting to pitch this in a more sensible and professional way. Then Junker comes out with this nonsense - Theresa had no option but to respond.

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:tu:

Correct and I don't think any leaks from their meeting came from the UK's side.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7721316.html

What would be the purpose of this? Certainly not to benefit the UK or May...

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English is the Global language of trade and technology, hey if the EU want to cut themselves away from that......crack on.

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Have you heard the speech or just read a transcript? The delivery was as a joke. Anyhow, here's what he actually said in the English portion of his speech;

Source - http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release...17-1238_fr.htm

Are you sure about the May keeping an even keel? She has had her foreign secretary comparing the French to prison guards administering punishment beatings (backed up by Number 10) and a senior Tory peer stating we would go to war with Spain (not condemned by Number 10)

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can you do it in French English isn't spoken much these days

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Only via Google Translate I am afraid;

Avez-vous entendu le discours ou simplement lire une transcription? La livraison était comme une blague. Quoi qu'il en soit, voici ce qu'il a réellement dit dans la partie anglaise de son discours;



Source - http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release...17-1238_fr.htm

Êtes-vous sûr du fait que le mois de mai conserve une quille même? Elle a eu son secrétaire à l'étranger comparant les Français aux gardiens de prison administrant des coups de punition (soutenus par le numéro 10) et un collègue supérieur de Tory déclarant que nous allions en guerre avec l'Espagne (non condamné par le numéro 10)

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le fab :)

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Source

So another remoaner project fear dragon is vanquished.

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Thinking back, it's funny how some people couldn't wait for the banks to leave or be driven out of the UK post 2008 yet when Brexit came up and it was claimed there'd be a mass exodus of those same institutions to the EU, they cited that as a major problem that would cost UK PLC billions of pounds and thousands of jobs. Maybe those pesky banks aren't so bad after all?... :shrug:

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The only companies that are moving after brexit are the one's that were moving anyway but brexit is such a good excuse to throw out to try and hide the fact hell brexit is the one excuse for anything companies want to do. We as customer's have some power here by remembering those who have profitted off brexit and using companies that didn't.

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OH no! More bad Brexit news.

Britain's builders are shaking off Brexit uncertainty and reporting booming demand

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Not only that but a nigh on £400m Japanese investment in a U.K. Company looks Improbable ;)

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See what you did there :D

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:D:D I like the way you worded that Kursk!

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It was never going to happen. London has the expertise, the infrastructure and the connections. The only staff that might conceivably leave London for a Eurozone destination are those that might have to do so, in order to fulfil regulatory requirements within the EZ. However, we're talking a few hundred people out of many thousands.

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Source

It's good to have real friends over the pond.

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This is because it would affect Wall Street as well. They can't just prevent London from clearing Euros, even if that's their aim. They have to prevent everyone outside the Eurozone from doing so. If they do this it will be a monumental act of self harm.

As regards his parting shot, a vast quantity of Dollars are cleared in London - sometimes more are cleared in London than in New York. The Yanks are quite relaxed about this, as they should be.

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The EU really needs to calm down on the rhetoric and threats it's doing them no favours at the minute and is damaging them internationally as they are being seen as being petty and more interested in punishing the UK for brexit then attempting any reasoned deal. I honestly think the next two year negotiation phase is a total waste of time too many ego's involved and the EU is determined to be seen to give as little as possible in the negotiations and whatever deal finally appears will likely be rejected by both parties. The politicians need to shut up and let the negotiators handle it and the convenient leaks need to stop as well as that's also reflected poorly on the EU so far.

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It's going to damage both the UK and the EU, but guess who'll come off worse by virtue of size? Time they all stopped the briefings, name calling etc and limit the damage as much as they can. The EU and UKs interests are the same thing , treating each other as the enemy will be a disaster. Russia will be loving all this.

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Based on that then the EU is going to come off worse as London is one of the biggest financial centers in the world, add to that Lloyds of London as the biggest insurer...

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The two year negotiation period is not a waste of time if we get a good deal for Britain out of it. However, I certainly agree that if the EU negotiators cut up rough and are intent on damaging Britain no matter what, then we should just pull out without a deal.

We have to try rather than just give up before even attempting any serious discussions.

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Soon to have a 'Lloyds of Brussels' branch.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...russels-office

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So it's going to have a branch office in Brussels. So what! It has other branch offices in other parts of the world.

As London is and will remain the headquarters where does the money come back to?

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Especially as we'll be an offshore tax haven by then.

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These don't seem impossible demands for the EU27 and UK to agree to.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...ni-production/

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I think you'll find that the UK doesn't want trade barriers and has no objection to the free movement of "Skilled Workers" where those skills do not exist or are not freely available in the UK.

The EU's free movement is worlds away from that.

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EXPOSED: Report CONFIRMS BBC was ‘strongly biased AGAINST Brexit’ in run-up to referendum


The analysis by monitoring group News-Watch looked at Radio 4's flagship morning news programme Today and concluded that there was "overwhelming negativity" about Leaving the EU.

During the six three-hour morning shows from Monday 29 March to Saturday 4 April, Today fielded 124 guests on Article 50 but only eight, 6.5 per cent, were "given the space to make substantive arguments that the future for the UK outside the EU would yield significant benefits".

It also claimed that in the survey period BBC correspondents "displayed what can only be described as a strong common editorial bias against Brexit".

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...-eu-referendum

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No, no, NO!

We all know that the BBC was entirely pro-Brexit!...

Maybe they just couldn't find the facts or contributors to support that stance. :rolleyes:

:)

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Right wing anti EU, anti BBC pressure group finds BBC biased towards EU shock...

In other news, the Taxpayers Alliance thinks we pay too much tax and Migration Watch thinks there's too much immigration

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Newswatch is hardly a unbiased group. The Express is misrepresenting them to suggest it is. It's a partisan blog that exists to go after the BBC: http://news-watch.co.uk/ Them 'finding' it's biased is about as as useful as saying The Canary has found Labour are best placed to manage the economy.

They're entitled to their view and argument of course but it's wrong to suggest this was the result of a academic study.

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stage 2

denial :rofl:

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The Express desperately clings to Newswatch like a drunk clinging to his empty can of Special Brew.

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stage 3

trying to justify your denial :rofl:

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The BBC is not biased. It balances the views of the left and right of socialism and even gives a bit of air time to reactionary groups like those swivel eyed Conservatives.

Maybe they need to get the Fox News editorial team to help them refocus! :LOL:

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Be careful what you wish for; there are rumours that Murdoch's sons are trying to turn Fox news into another liberal news outlet. We need fox news as an opposite to the BBC's biased Trump coverage, especially, "Here's another beauty", Jon Sopel


I wonder if that could happen to Sky News if Murdoch takes full control?

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The BBC's isn't biased at all but everybody who claims so is... :D

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All I am saying is take them for what they are, agree or not, than trying to pretend it's an actual group which independently monitors news channels for bias with some sort of academic standard.

You can search the site for yourself other than that though they don't appear to be registered anywhere, officially published anything or are recognised for anything. It's a website which seems to consist almost entirely of accusations the BBC is biased.

It's hard to find anything on them. Their contact page is a HTML form.

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Brexit bias at the BBC? We have no duty to balance reports, claims Nick Robinson

Rather than saying there is no bias, Robinson has — curiously — opted for a different approach. He says the BBC has no duty to be balanced as now that the referendum is out of the way, the corporation is no longer obliged to balance the two sides of the argument:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/0...ick-robinson/#


Stop bias against Brexit or face fine, BBC warned


The BBC will face sanctions and fines from its new regulator unless it ends its Brexit bias, a former Culture Secretary and architect of the Royal Charter has warned.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ne-bbc-warned/

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He's clearly biased... :D

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Ok, I get it. The constant strawmanning on here and mockery on here.

I was just making a point about the specific article that started this, a point I thought was fair.

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To be fair Whitingdale was a Brexit supporter. But 'the Arts' folks are generally firm remain supporters. Which of those two are running the BBC?


Rona Fairhead who was effectively fired in September 2016, is also Bilderberg group attendee. That the BBC was/is biased against Brexit is not beyond belief

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It is a fair point so don't take the ribbing too seriously. ;)

To be honest, I don't need a group to tell me what I have seen/heard with my own eyes/ears over the years when it comes to the BBC. It's just my opinion and thankfully, not being the publicly funded BBC who ought to be as impartial as is reasonably possible, I'm entitled to be as biased as I like. :)

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Even if you are correct :D

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Important survey of over 2,000 supply chain managers reveals businesses in the UK and EU are seeking to place contracts in the UK and EU 27 respectively
https://www.cips.org/en/news/news/bu...rexit-tariffs/

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That goes without saying*... ;)



* but I may be a tad biased... :)

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'We're a laughing stock!'


A FURIOUS euro MP today branded his own project a “laughing stock” over Brussels’ refusal to grant Britain its fair share of EU assets during the calculation of the Brexit divorce bill.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...K-share-assets

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Just an example of some of the good the EU does i.e challenging drug companies trying to rip us off for cancer drugs. They aren't all faceless euroeaucrats....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-39933916

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So all the assets belong to Brussels they reckon and all the liabilities elsewhere presumably. How unlike the Eurocrats to want to have their cake and eat it. Mind you they'll need plenty of assets to keep that enormous gravy train on the tracks between Brussels and Strasbourg.

I wonder what all the other member states think about that, especially the net contributors.

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EU national parliaments won't get Brexit trade deal veto after new ECJ ruling

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7739371.html

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What you mean we won't get held to ransom by the wallons, just the loons

I don't think I would have liked that ruling had we still been in the club

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That's more like it! I knew there must be a vestige of common sense within the EU establishment somewhere, although I must admit, I didn't expect to find it there!

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Agreed. I find it amusing that those who like this ruling which apparently limits the freedom of EU member states is being applauded by some Brexiters.

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I presume you find it laughable because it's one of the reasons we want to leave.

I find it laughable that this dictat now makes the process easier!

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The irony is amusing. :)

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What's so odd about wanting out of an organisation, treaty or whatever which on balance causes more problems than it solves? Who's ever said that everything the EU or the ECJ does is bad? By leaving their control we can decide which laws, rules or whatever we wish to retain and which we don't, taking on board to consequences of so doing.

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Yes, the EU member states have so much individual freedom to make independent decisions; it is shocking that this one is been taken away from them! What next!? Taking away their individual right to manage immigration control? Thin end of the wedge mate... Thin end of the wedge...

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The inevitability of rulings like this is one of the reasons I voted Leave. Anyone who still doesn't understand that the EU is on a one-way ticket to statehood in its own right is being wilfully blind.

Now we're leaving, of course, I am content for the EU to organise itself in any way that gives maximum advantage to us as a third party. If any other member states decide they don't like the EU's direction of travel, they are welcome to follow us out the door.

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:sleep: I think I've just reached my Brexit boredom threshold ! There are so many bigger issues that deserve our attention but we're obsessed with this, which is going to drag on for years and leave us worse off and more divided at the end of it. What will it be after Brexit? the Whitehall faceless bureaucrats' turn for vitriol again ? Brits love a good moan (me included ;) )

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yea once we get this rubbish out of the way we can get back to our real passion the weather

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That's the reaction i would have expected as oppose to Brexiters being pleased.

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The decision may help the EU exit process by reducing delay's. As (I assume) you are someone who believes in democracy, and therefore respects the outcome of the referendum, why aren't you pleased about the decision?

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lol, that's true but I'm moaning about the weather now!

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I've not expressed my opinion on this decision though I'm pleased that it simplifies matters. I was just amused by people liking a decision that they would not like if applied to the UK.

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Or your boat.;)

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If we Brexiteers can bring a little bit of extra amusement into your life, then that's great; take it as a freely given, unforeseen, Brexit bonus ;) :D:D

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Wow, we've had 2 whole days without yet another pro-EU anti-Brexit scare story. :D

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surely saving their strength for a big push. ;)

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Here you go, hate to disappoint ;)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7747376.html
And this was after sneaking a look at Preston's questions before the interview, what a naughty mugglewump...
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/polit...-a3544536.html

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Do you ever get tired of rehashing old crap ? :td:

The £350 Million suggestion, was just that and it was not prerequisite in which leave got my vote.

I had made my decision years ago, because we do not need to be part of a corrupt system. Now we are leaving, this country now has a chance to do things it wants without peddling pissants who are running that pile of garbage telling us what we can and cannot do. :dozey:

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It's Boris that's rehashing old crap, save your strop for him Mick. It's incredible he's had the cheek to lie about it again.
('It was just a suggestion'=new word for a lie? )

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He did not lie-end of discussion.

I will save my strop for you and always you, when you consistently mock democracy.

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.
Yes he did, Boris said the £350million for the NHS is in the manifesto, it isn't. It's a lie unless he's incredibly stupid, which we all know he isn't ;)
(Does 'end of discussion' mean you're closing the thread ?)

I'm sure that will be a relief to everyone else you have a strop with :D

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So no denial then that you have issues with democracy, seeing as you consistently mock how people vote and refuse to accept the decision because, you do not agree with it?

And no, thread is not closing, I just will not engage in further debate of an argument done to death already. You keep bringing it up because, lets face it, all your other weak arguments of 'Brexit will be a failure' or 'it's a mistake' have been obliterated by others.

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So the 350 million a week for the NHS is in the Conservative manifesto released the other day? :confused:

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I don't know and more importantly, I don't care.

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Think you've gone off on one there a bit Mick, which is unlike you I must admit ! The news story I linked to was about Boris telling porkies (again) this morning, nothing about the result of the referendum.
However, whatever the result people are still entitled to an opinion with out having a character assassination/abuse. I'm not the only one, you do it to anyone that disagrees with you on whatever subject. The forum would be a bit boring if only those that had the same views as you posted?
Whatever love, hugs and peace as always :)