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OLD BOY 18-06-2017 14:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35903814)
The Americans is available on Amazon Prime so no exclusivity on Sky.

Yes, the exclusivity relates to the channel (ITV Encore), not the programme.

Dave42 18-06-2017 15:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35903816)
Yes, the exclusivity relates to the channel (ITV Encore), not the programme.

yes that what I meant the channel being exclusive not the programme

RichardCoulter 18-06-2017 16:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35903788)
Yes, you will find some of the programmes aired by ITV Encore in the ITV Collections section of on demand. However, they were all repeats from the main ITV channel the last time I looked, but new stuff like The Americans, which is what we need, cannot be found there..

Not much use then :(

For some reason ITV Encore isn't available on Sky in Ireland, but this VOD repeated material is. Sky Ireland viewers are in the same boat as VM customers in this respect.

Media Boy UK 19-06-2017 16:29

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Virgin Media UK is set to launch Brit Asia on July 1st 2017.

https://www.bizasialive.com/brit-asi...in-media-july/

---------- Post added at 16:29 ---------- Previous post was at 16:28 ----------

Look like Virgin Media has signed new deal with NBC Universal

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...php?t=33705015

japitts 19-06-2017 18:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35903035)
We have been given a new rumour although we're taking it with a tiny pinch of salt but as there was no do not disclose request here it is.
Nat geo looking to merge Nat geo and Nat geo wild into one channel and launching Nat geo family and Nat geo uhd on all pay platforms except talktalk.

Another rumour I'm not liking the sound of. National Geographic & NatGeoWild are both excellent at different genres.

Media Boy UK 19-06-2017 20:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35900985)
PPV channel 2 itv box office?

Just confirmed today ITV Box Office is broadcasting on Virgin Ireland Channel 862.

Also has of May 29th - Euronews is just broadcasting in English on SIX channels on Virgin Media Ireland.

203. Euronews English
831. was Euronews French
832. was Euronews Germen
833. was Euronews Italian
834. was Euronews Spanish
836. was Euronews Russian.

---------- Post added at 20:49 ---------- Previous post was at 19:05 ----------

Virgin Media reacts to Sky Asia Pack changes

https://www.bizasialive.com/virgin-m...-pack-changes/

Media Boy UK 19-06-2017 23:56

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Maybe something to do with that deal with Sky last week (The ads one) but I saw an ad for Viceland today on Sky on Demand for Sky Sports.

It was an ad for an show with Sky channel number and "NOW TV" on it that the end.

theone2k10 20-06-2017 00:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35903993)
Maybe something to do with that deal with Sky last week (The ads one) but I saw an ad for Viceland today on Sky on Demand for Sky Sports.

It was an ad for an show with Sky channel number and "NOW TV" on it that the end.

yeah it's on nowtv apparantly bt are getting it soon too.

jj20x 20-06-2017 02:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35903972)
Euronews is just broadcasting in English on SIX channels on Virgin Media Ireland.

203. Euronews English
831. was Euronews French
832. was Euronews Germen
833. was Euronews Italian
834. was Euronews Spanish
836. was Euronews Russian

All down to a change in the way Euronews operates. It used to have a single video stream linked to multiple audio soundtracks. Now it has completely separate services for each language market.

I posted early in May that VM UK had dropped the additional language streams on Euronews. It appears that VM Ireland just had a more convoluted way of making extra soundtracks available.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35903993)
Maybe something to do with that deal with Sky last week (The ads one) but I saw an ad for Viceland today on Sky on Demand for Sky Sports.

It was an ad for an show with Sky channel number and "NOW TV" on it that the end.

Viceland on demand content is available on Now TV, but not the broadcast stream.

---------- Post added at 02:51 ---------- Previous post was at 02:43 ----------

Temporary BBC Red Button services: HD and 2-6 have now been added to the EPG on channels 990 and 992 to 996 respectively.

OLD BOY 20-06-2017 07:57

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35903035)
We have been given a new rumour although we're taking it with a tiny pinch of salt but as there was no do not disclose request here it is.
Nat geo looking to merge Nat geo and Nat geo wild into one channel and launching Nat geo family and Nat geo uhd on all pay platforms except talktalk.

Interesting. I had a pet theory that UHD on Virgin Media might be confined to on demand services due to the amount of bandwidth needed.

If this rumour is true, that theory is blown right out of the water!

muppetman11 20-06-2017 09:44

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On all pay platforms do you seriously expect the Murdoch's to launch a UHD channel on BT ?

I'll take that with a very big pinch of salt although do appreciate the rumour.

theone2k10 20-06-2017 12:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35904035)
On all pay platforms do you seriously expect the Murdoch's to launch a UHD channel on BT ?

I'll take that with a very big pinch of salt although do appreciate the rumour.

Who knows mate BT do have a UHD bargaining chip though with bt sports uhd but liker you i've took the info with a large pinch of salt as i was thinking the exact same i can't see murdoch allowing it's rival Nat geo uhd.

OLD BOY 20-06-2017 15:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35904053)
Who knows mate BT do have a UHD bargaining chip though with bt sports uhd but liker you i've took the info with a large pinch of salt as i was thinking the exact same i can't see murdoch allowing it's rival Nat geo uhd.

No, I think this could be happening. Nothing like a quid pro quo where Sky is concerned.

Anyway, does National Geographic need Sky's permission to do a deal with BT?

muppetman11 20-06-2017 15:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35904053)
Who knows mate BT do have a UHD bargaining chip though with bt sports uhd but liker you i've took the info with a large pinch of salt as i was thinking the exact same i can't see murdoch allowing it's rival Nat geo uhd.

I don't see Sky or BT giving way anytime soon.

Dave42 20-06-2017 15:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35904070)
I don't see Sky or BT giving way anytime soon.

exactly

theone2k10 20-06-2017 15:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35904068)
No, I think this could be happening. Nothing like a quid pro quo where Sky is concerned.

Anyway, does National Geographic need Sky's permission to do a deal with BT?

Not sure i think Nat geo is owned by FOX, which is a Murdoch company i think.

OLD BOY 20-06-2017 15:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35904073)
Not sure i think Nat geo is owned by FOX, which is a Murdoch company i think.

Ah, yes, theone, it is owned by the ol' Murdochs!


https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...nal-geographic

Media Boy UK 20-06-2017 16:23

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sky cinema greats will be rename as sky cinema brits from june 24th to july 9th

Ddonald2016 20-06-2017 19:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35904078)
sky cinema greats will be rename as sky cinema brits from june 24th to july 9th

Is this uhd material from nat geo and bt sport also sky don't come to fruition virgin will be a 4k box HDR ready with no content

OLD BOY 20-06-2017 22:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35904112)
Is this uhd material from nat geo and bt sport also sky don't come to fruition virgin will be a 4k box HDR ready with no content

UHD material is currently available on Netflix and Youtube. The amount of UHD content will increase over time.

denphone 21-06-2017 04:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35904070)
I don't see Sky or BT giving way anytime soon.

Not a hope I'm hell as you say MM.

Ddonald2016 21-06-2017 09:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35904159)
UHD material is currently available on Netflix and Youtube. The amount of UHD content will increase over time.

So it's either third party content via YouTube or £8.99 for Netflix uhd. But virgin didn't do anything

OLD BOY 21-06-2017 10:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35904183)
So it's either third party content via YouTube or £8.99 for Netflix uhd. But virgin didn't do anything

Virgin are not content providers, so I am afraid you will have to wait until carriage deals can be agreed.

Hopefully, however, we will start to see on demand stuff being commissioned before long. I can't see any UHD channels being launched on VM at all this year, I'm afraid, although they must be able to do deals with providers other than Sky and BT. To date, they have not shown any indication of doing so.

This would be good for starters:

http://www.digitaltveurope.net/64880...hinese-launch/

The Liberty Global deal with All3Media may produce the first on demand UHD content for us, I suspect, but hopefully, VM/Liberty Global will have their fingers in many other pies:

http://www.digitaltveurope.net/62644...t-investments/

Media Boy UK 21-06-2017 11:17

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Base on information MB HQ has seen UKTV's W is broadcasting on Virgin Ireland Channels 160 and 512.

muppetman11 21-06-2017 11:46

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With the exception of Live Sport UHD will be predominantly On Demand.

Sky already makes it's original shows it commissions in UHD available in this way.

Ultimate.Conj 21-06-2017 12:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35904197)
With the exception of Live Sport UHD will be predominantly On Demand.

Sky already makes it's original shows it commissions in UHD available in this way.

I am a little bit jealous Sky customers have shows like the Blacklist etc in their on-demand UHD section.

I was hoping Virgin would start their UHD offerings with this kind of content. I don't know much about whether this would still demand a high carriage price (from Sky) or even if Virgin are interested.

OLD BOY 21-06-2017 12:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35904198)
I am a little bit jealous Sky customers have shows like the Blacklist etc in their on-demand UHD section.

I was hoping Virgin would start their UHD offerings with this kind of content. I don't know much about whether this would still demand a high carriage price though or even if Virgin are interested.

The problem is, this programme is on Sky Living and so until VM negotiates a new contract with Sky, I guess the only programmes we will see in UHD are those that Virgin negotiates directly with the studios or other content providers.

Ultimate.Conj 21-06-2017 12:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35904204)
The problem is, this programme is on Sky Living and so until VM negotiates a new contract with Sky, I guess the only programmes we will see in UHD are those that Virgin negotiates directly with the studios or other content providers.

Sorry I left out Sky's name in my post. You are right, until a deal is agreed with Sky we won't see it. Which is a shame because it is a good show.

RichardCoulter 21-06-2017 16:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35904190)
Virgin are not content providers, so I am afraid you will have to wait until carriage deals can be agreed.

Hopefully, however, we will start to see on demand stuff being commissioned before long. I can't see any UHD channels being launched on VM at all this year, I'm afraid, although they must be able to do deals with providers other than Sky and BT. To date, they have not shown any indication of doing so.

This would be good for starters:

http://www.digitaltveurope.net/64880...hinese-launch/

The Liberty Global deal with All3Media may produce the first on demand UHD content for us, I suspect, but hopefully, VM/Liberty Global will have their fingers in many other pies:

http://www.digitaltveurope.net/62644...t-investments/

I thought that VM were changing their strategy and were to start obtaining their own content again. Has this not come to fruition?

theone2k10 21-06-2017 16:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35904227)
I thought that VM were changing their strategy and were to start obtaining their own content again. Has this not come to fruition?

The only thing VM obtain are price rises with very little in return.

OLD BOY 21-06-2017 16:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35904227)
I thought that VM were changing their strategy and were to start obtaining their own content again. Has this not come to fruition?

It's still their new strategy, I think, as you can see with the Virgin on demand exclusives. However, these are few and far between.

Hopefully, they are out there doing deals as we speak, but it does seem to be taking a long time. Maybe they are preparing for a big splurge of new stuff come the autumn season, but that's my hope, not a prediction or statement of fact!

Ddonald2016 21-06-2017 18:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35904229)
The only thing VM obtain are price rises with very little in return.

Totally agree but when was last price rise

denphone 21-06-2017 18:59

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35904229)
The only thing VM obtain are price rises with very little in return.

That is a bit OTT.:)

RobboEdin 21-06-2017 19:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35904247)
Totally agree but when was last price rise

November, almost 8 months ago.

RichardCoulter 21-06-2017 19:17

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35903972)
Virgin Media reacts to Sky Asia Pack changes

https://www.bizasialive.com/virgin-m...-pack-changes/

looks like VM aren't going to do anything to compete, probably because they already put much of their Asian channels into the normal packs anyway.

What caught my eye was the comment from the VM spokesman "we are in talks with a number of TV channel owners to add even more content to our platform.".

Wonder if this means in general or for more Asian stuff?? Hopefully it's the former as opposed to the latter.

Media Boy UK 21-06-2017 22:56

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June List update - June 21st update.

Keep up-to-date on the latest news on upcoming channel launches and other important events across all platforms of Virgin Media UK and Virgin Media Ireland.

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=== Freeviews on Virgin Media UK OR Ireland ===
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=== Sometime in 2017 (Testing or Confirm) ===
-Virgin Media Ireland will launch Cartoon Network HD soon.
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-Virgin Media Ireland will launch Film4 HD soon.
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=== June ===
24th. Sky Cinema will rebrand Sky Cinema Greats HD as Sky Cinema Brits HD on Virgin UK Channel 404 and Virgin Ireland Channel 337.
24th. Sky Cinema will rebrand Sky Cinema Greats as Sky Cinema Brits on Virgin UK Channel 434 and Virgin Ireland Channel 307.


=== Summer ===
-Sky Sports will rebrand Sky Sports 1 HD as Sky Sports "TBC A" HD on Virgin UK Channel 501 and Virgin Ireland Channel 432.
-Sky Sports will rebrand Sky Sports 2 HD as Sky Sports "TBC B" HD on Virgin UK Channel 502 and Virgin Ireland Channel 433.
-Sky Sports will rebrand Sky Sports 3 HD as Sky Sports "TBC C" HD on Virgin UK Channel 503 and Virgin Ireland Channel 434.
-Sky Sports will rebrand Sky Sports 4 HD as Sky Sports "TBC D" HD on Virgin UK Channel 504 and Virgin Ireland Channel 435.
-Sky Sports will rebrand Sky Sports 5 HD as Sky Sports "TBC E" HD on Virgin UK Channel 505 and Virgin Ireland Channel 436.
-Sky Sports will rebrand Sky Sports 1 as Sky Sports "TBC A" on Virgin UK Channel 511 and Virgin Ireland Channel 402.
-Sky Sports will rebrand Sky Sports 2 as Sky Sports "TBC B" on Virgin UK Channel 512 and Virgin Ireland Channel 403.
-Sky Sports will rebrand Sky Sports 3 as Sky Sports "TBC C" on Virgin UK Channel 513 and Virgin Ireland Channel 404.
-Sky Sports will rebrand Sky Sports 4 as Sky Sports "TBC D" on Virgin UK Channel 514 and Virgin Ireland Channel 405.
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=== July ===
1st. Virgin Media UK will launch Brit Asia TV today on Virgin UK Channel 840.
10th. Sky Cinema will rebrand Sky Cinema Brits HD as Sky Cinema Greats HD on Virgin UK Channel 404 and Virgin Ireland Channel 337.
10th. Sky Cinema will rebrand Sky Cinema Brits as Sky Cinema Greats on Virgin UK Channel 434 and Virgin Ireland Channel 307.
18th. Virgin Media UK will remove BBC Red Button HD from Virgin UK Channel 990 today.
18th. Virgin Media UK will remove BBC Red Button 2 from Virgin UK Channel 992 today.
18th. Virgin Media UK will remove BBC Red Button 3 from Virgin UK Channel 993 today.
18th. Virgin Media UK will remove BBC Red Button 4 from Virgin UK Channel 994 today.
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jj20x 21-06-2017 23:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35904251)
looks like VM aren't going to do anything to compete, probably because they already put much of their Asian channels into the normal packs anyway.

I'm not sure how well that will work as a strategy. Sky drops the charge for the Asian pack and simultaneously adds HD versions of many of the channels. VM then continues to offer the channels in SD only but keeps the charge. I would think that could quite possibly create some churn. Let's see how this one plays out.

theone2k10 22-06-2017 00:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35904248)
That is a bit OTT.:)

it's true though sadly as is the same with most companies.

---------- Post added at 00:07 ---------- Previous post was at 00:06 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35904247)
Totally agree but when was last price rise

You have one coming within next couple of months it's normally between April and November when companies rise prices.

1andrew1 22-06-2017 00:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35904292)
it's true though sadly as is the same with most companies.

---------- Post added at 00:07 ---------- Previous post was at 00:06 ----------



You have one coming within next couple of months it's normally between April and November when companies rise prices.

Pay TV companies are now seeing more resistance to price rises so it may not happen for some time.

denphone 22-06-2017 04:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35904292)
it's true though sadly as is the same with most companies.

Its true only if you believe it.;)

theone2k10 22-06-2017 11:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35904301)
Its true only if you believe it.;)

So enlighten me sir what have VM, given back since their last 3 price rises?

---------- Post added at 11:48 ---------- Previous post was at 11:47 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35904294)
Pay TV companies are now seeing more resistance to price rises so it may not happen for some time.

VMs is coming letters will be sent out soon.

Inactive Digital 22-06-2017 11:59

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Mike Fries has told LG shareholders that they are conscious of pricing in the UK and that consumers here are increasingly price-conscious. Read into that what you will, but he added they need to "give people more for more."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...siness-1015543

This on the back of comments to investors at the last financial results they they got last November''s price rises wrong.

OLD BOY 22-06-2017 16:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 35904337)
Mike Fries has told LG shareholders that they are conscious of pricing in the UK and that consumers here are increasingly price-conscious. Read into that what you will, but he added they need to "give people more for more."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...siness-1015543

This on the back of comments to investors at the last financial results they they got last November''s price rises wrong.

Could be some good news, then. That'll please Den, if he got out of the sunny side of his bed today. ;)

denphone 22-06-2017 16:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35904378)
Could be some good news, then. That'll please Den, if he got out of the sunny side of his bed today. ;)

l always get out on the right side of the bed unlike some grumps on here ;) as their pessimism knows no bounds but sooner rather then later they might just crack a smile for once.;):)

Media Boy UK 22-06-2017 19:14

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Viacom will rebrand MTV Classic as MTV Pride on Virgin Ireland Channel 707.

It will happen on July 3rd to July 10th.

---------- Post added at 19:14 ---------- Previous post was at 19:10 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35904294)
Pay TV companies are now seeing more resistance to price rises so it may not happen for some time.

We feel it will happen as early as September due to Sky Sports or BT Sports.

Sky always put them up an month before Virgin need to "pass it on".

Ddonald2016 22-06-2017 19:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35904395)
Viacom will rebrand MTV Classic as MTV Pride on Virgin Ireland Channel 707.

It will happen on July 3rd to July 10th.

---------- Post added at 19:14 ---------- Previous post was at 19:10 ----------



We feel it will happen as early as September due to Sky Sports or BT Sports.

Sky always put them up an month before Virgin need to "pass it on".

You could also argue due to the lack of investment in there own content, getting uhd material and get missing channels maybe they should absorb the rise they give nothing back

theone2k10 22-06-2017 20:07

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MTV Beats to launchnext week on channel 373 on sky (dspy) is this launching on vm too?
We have had no news of it.

Media Boy UK 22-06-2017 20:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35904404)
MTV Beats to launchnext week on channel 373 on sky (dspy) is this launching on vm too?
We have had no news of it.

We hear it something to do with Colors and Rishtey and will be own by Viacom18 and we seen info that MTV are getting pay to use the brand.

But as far as we know no more new channels bar Brit Asia TV is testing right now to launch UK Wide on Virgin Media UK.

https://www.bizasialive.com/mtv-beat...sky-launch-uk/

Media Boy UK 23-06-2017 01:57

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a516Digital is reporting that BBC Radio Cymru 2 may launch soon on Virgin Media UK.

Discussions regarding carriage agreements are ongoing with various operators.

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/06/b...on-and-r3.html

RichardCoulter 23-06-2017 02:41

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I'd be happy if they fixed the fault preventing V6 customers from listening to RTE radio!

jj20x 23-06-2017 20:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35904434)
I'd be happy if they fixed the fault preventing V6 customers from listening to RTE radio!

I can't see why that is happening. Like the basic BBC services, radio channels aren't encrypted and are outside VM's subscription pack structure. So what is actually blocking access?

OLD BOY 23-06-2017 23:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35904580)
I can't see why that is happening. Like the basic BBC services, radio channels aren't encrypted and are outside VM's subscription pack structure. So what is actually blocking access?

That's what I couldn't understand. Is this a Virgin fault or a content provider fault?

Either way, if Virgin cannot rely on the continuity of service, surely they should threaten, andd if necessary, enforce, the conclusion of this contract.

jj20x 24-06-2017 01:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35904598)
That's what I couldn't understand. Is this a Virgin fault or a content provider fault?

Bearing in mind that it still works on the Tivo etc, and that this bug is limited to the V6, possibly neither.

Quote:

Either way, if Virgin cannot rely on the continuity of service, surely they should threaten, andd if necessary, enforce, the conclusion of this contract.
I don't know. Consider the possibility that, for some reason, the actual audio stream is incompatible with the V6. Would it be fair to threaten the content provider with a termination of contract? They are providing the same service they always have, which still works on the VM boxes it previously worked on. So how would it be their fault if VM introduced new hardware, incompatible with the stream? A bit harsh perhaps.

I would say that it is up to VM to convert the audio stream and make it universally compatible across all boxes. Either that or update the V6 firmware to make it compatible.

Of course, it may not be a compatibility problem with the actual audio stream. Which brings us back to the question, what is actually blocking access.

Out of interest, do any of the other channels, on the radio section of the EPG, fail to play on the V6?

RichardCoulter 24-06-2017 13:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35904605)
Bearing in mind that it still works on the Tivo etc, and that this bug is limited to the V6, possibly neither.



I don't know. Consider the possibility that, for some reason, the actual audio stream is incompatible with the V6. Would it be fair to threaten the content provider with a termination of contract? They are providing the same service they always have, which still works on the VM boxes it previously worked on. So how would it be their fault if VM introduced new hardware, incompatible with the stream? A bit harsh perhaps.

I would say that it is up to VM to convert the audio stream and make it universally compatible across all boxes. Either that or update the V6 firmware to make it compatible.

Of course, it may not be a compatibility problem with the actual audio stream. Which brings us back to the question, what is actually blocking access.

Out of interest, do any of the other channels, on the radio section of the EPG, fail to play on the V6?

All i've been told is that it is a software fault!?

They also said that the fault affects Nollywood TV for some people (doesn't affect me).

jj20x 24-06-2017 13:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35904657)
All i've been told is that it is a software fault!?

It does look that way. Apparently, the RTE Radio stream is MPEG2 128k stereo, so nothing unusual about the format.

Quote:

They also said that the fault affects Nollywood TV for some people (doesn't affect me).
Software faults only affecting certain users is also odd. Hmmm!

Media Boy UK 24-06-2017 16:53

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Sky sources has confirm that Chelsea TV is set to go HD only soon. Also Sky are looking to add more Asia channels.

Ddonald2016 24-06-2017 22:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35904683)
Sky sources has confirm that Chelsea TV is set to go HD only soon. Also Sky are looking to add more Asia channels.

Shame there is so little coming to virgin media we need to see what coming to sky

theone2k10 24-06-2017 23:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35904695)
Shame there is so little coming to virgin media we need to see what coming to sky

Not a lot at the moment.

jj20x 25-06-2017 15:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35904683)
Also Sky are looking to add more Asia channels.

More competition for VM in the Desi market.

Meanwhile, indications are that Brit Asia TV should be available to VM UK TV users with the Mix, M+, Fun and Full House packs after launch.

theone2k10 25-06-2017 18:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35904778)
More competition for VM in the Desi market.

Meanwhile, indications are that Brit Asia TV should be available to VM UK TV users with the Mix, M+, Fun and Full House packs after launch.

So that'll be every pack going up by £5pm then :p:

Media Boy UK 26-06-2017 14:56

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Russian Channel "THT-Comedy" has been added to WorldBox.

OLD BOY 26-06-2017 15:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35904896)
Russian Channel "THT-Comedy" has been added to WorldBox.

Oh, I can see it now.

"There was this Russian, Turkman and Ukranian..."

Nah, doesn't do it for me, it doesn't have the same ring about it. I wouldn't understand the punch line anyway, particularly as I don't speak Russian! :beer:

Media Boy UK 26-06-2017 19:43

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We have seen an DNP order tonight.

From an Virgin source

Ddonald2016 26-06-2017 21:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35904963)
We have seen an DNP order tonight.

From an Virgin source

When will it be lifted, let's hope it's uhd material not sky sports channels names

Mad Max 26-06-2017 22:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35904896)
Russian Channel "THT-Comedy" has been added to WorldBox.

Bloody hell..........:erm:

theone2k10 26-06-2017 23:59

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Netflix UHD content should be available on v6 boxes from Autumn this year sources have told us.
Also a new offer is coming soon sign up into a new 18 month contract and get 6 months free netflix.

BenMcr 27-06-2017 00:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35905030)
Netflix UHD content should be available on v6 boxes from Autumn this year sources have told us.

Netflix 4K content is already available via the Virgin TV V6 box.

RichardCoulter 27-06-2017 03:47

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Quest and Quest Red are to go FTA on satellite and join Freesat on channels 167 and 169.

The timeshift +1 channels won't be available on Freesat, but the gap suggests that they intend to add them in the future.

Looks to me like Discovery have managed to get a similar deal as UKTV after their carriage dispute to unshackle their free channels from Sky ie the parent channel is allowed to go onto Freesat, but the +1's remain encrypted for now.

I wonder if VM will put these into their free M/Player packs so that their 'free' TV pack customers can benefit from this change??

When Really went FTA, this was moved down to the lowest pack, but the latest Freeview additions look to be in M+/Mix.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35905030)
Also a new offer is coming soon sign up into a new 18 month contract and get 6 months free netflix.

If we say that Netflix is £6 per month, that works out at 50p a week off over the 18 months!

Anyone who is definitely staying with VM might as well go for it, but this would leave you locked in for 18 months, meaning VM cancellation fees if you move to a non VM cabled area and not in a position to be able to negotiate a discount.

denphone 27-06-2017 05:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35905020)
Bloody hell..........:erm:

All you need to do now is to take some nightly language classes MM.;)

OLD BOY 27-06-2017 07:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35904963)
We have seen an DNP order tonight.

From an Virgin source

Does this relate to one or more new channels (or streaming services) of any worth coming to VM or will it be another damp squib?

Gavin-D 27-06-2017 09:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35905030)
Netflix UHD content should be available on v6 boxes from Autumn this year sources have told us.

Your source is a bit slow...

http://www.virginmedia.com/shop/tv/v6.html

Experience mesmerising 4K Ultra HD

4K Ultra HD is here, and boy oh boy, it looks good. Experience Netflix (if you’re subscribed) and YouTube in 4K Ultra HD.

Ddonald2016 27-06-2017 09:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35905045)
Quest and Quest Red are to go FTA on satellite and join Freesat on channels 167 and 169.

The timeshift +1 channels won't be available on Freesat, but the gap suggests that they intend to add them in the future.

Looks to me like Discovery have managed to get a similar deal as UKTV after their carriage dispute to unshackle their free channels from Sky ie the parent channel is allowed to go onto Freesat, but the +1's remain encrypted for now.

I wonder if VM will put these into their free M/Player packs so that their 'free' TV pack customers can benefit from this change??

When Really went FTA, this was moved down to the lowest pack, but the latest Freeview additions look to be in M+/Mix.

---------- Post added at 02:47 ---------- Previous post was at 02:28 ----------



If we say that Netflix is £6 per month, that works out at 50p a week off over the 18 months!

Anyone who is definitely staying with VM might as well go for it, but this would leave you locked in for 18 months, meaning VM cancellation fees if you move to a non VM cabled area and not in a position to be able to negotiate a discount.

But the deal is less than 6 months if you want UHD. £6 x 6 is £36 the uhd is £9 a month so 4 months netflix, also uhd already on TiVo

theone2k10 27-06-2017 13:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35905038)
Netflix 4K content is already available via the Virgin TV V6 box.

Thanks for info ben.

---------- Post added at 13:29 ---------- Previous post was at 13:28 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35905070)
Your source is a bit slow...

http://www.virginmedia.com/shop/tv/v6.html

Experience mesmerising 4K Ultra HD

4K Ultra HD is here, and boy oh boy, it looks good. Experience Netflix (if you’re subscribed) and YouTube in 4K Ultra HD.

Indeed they are lol at least they were kinda right on this occasion though lol.

---------- Post added at 13:32 ---------- Previous post was at 13:29 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35905071)
But the deal is less than 6 months if you want UHD. £6 x 6 is £36 the uhd is £9 a month so 4 months netflix, also uhd already on TiVo

I pay around about £5.70pm for uhd netflix it takes a bit of work but you get a brazilian vpn use that to sign up to netflix it'll accept your normal debit/credit card once done you can watch netflix as normal atm for me it's uk, usa and canada the others are still being worked on by my vpn provider.
But you can still sign up via brazilian netflix (brazil vpn).

OLD BOY 27-06-2017 14:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35905181)

I pay around about £5.70pm for uhd netflix it takes a bit of work but you get a brazilian vpn use that to sign up to netflix it'll accept your normal debit/credit card once done you can watch netflix as normal atm for me it's uk, usa and canada the others are still being worked on by my vpn provider.
But you can still sign up via brazilian netflix (brazil vpn).

Some of us are uncomfortable with these dodgy practices, theone! :nono:

theone2k10 27-06-2017 14:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35905194)
Some of us are uncomfortable with these dodgy practices, theone! :nono:

But ask yourself why should we pay more for less content? UK netflix has a lot less content than USA or Canada yet we pay more.
If Netflix did fairer pricing then people wouldn't go through these dadgy practices.

OLD BOY 27-06-2017 14:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35905202)
But ask yourself why should we pay more for less content? UK netflix has a lot less content than USA or Canada yet we pay more.
If Netflix did fairer pricing then people wouldn't go through these dadgy practices.

Yes, I see that, but personally, I don't want to go there.

I can't help thinking that there will be consequences one day. At the moment, with vpns, people have a sense of security, but ultimately, I believe a way will be found (if it hasn't already) to track what you are doing, and all these past gateway busting methods will leave a permanent digital footprint.

I prefer to sleep at night!

Ultimate.Conj 27-06-2017 14:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35905202)
But ask yourself why should we pay more for less content? UK netflix has a lot less content than USA or Canada yet we pay more.
If Netflix did fairer pricing then people wouldn't go through these dadgy practices.

With the content, I'm not 100%, but could it be something to do with how shows are licensed in the UK? Some shows may be tied to an individual broadcaster before it is allowed on Neftlix. Just a guess...:erm:

Inactive Digital 27-06-2017 14:48

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Some more info on changes to Sky Sports:
New channels include one for golf, one for cricket, two for football and Sky Sports Arena for rugby, tennis and other sport. Entry point is £18.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...l-golf-cricket

Mr K 27-06-2017 15:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 35905216)
Some more info on changes to Sky Sports:
New channels include one for golf, one for cricket, two for football and Sky Sports Arena for rugby, tennis and other sport. Entry point is £18.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...l-golf-cricket

Good move, only interested in the cricket. Shouldn't have to pay for Premiership football boredom.

denphone 27-06-2017 15:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 35905216)
Some more info on changes to Sky Sports:
New channels include one for golf, one for cricket, two for football and Sky Sports Arena for rugby, tennis and other sport. Entry point is £18.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...l-golf-cricket

You bet your bottom dollar the football package will be much higher then £18 that is for sure

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905230)
Good move, only interested in the cricket. Shouldn't have to pay for Premiership football boredom.

Cricket can be accessed in more ways then just Sky.

Mr K 27-06-2017 15:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35905239)
Y

Cricket can be accessed in more ways then just Sky.

You mean by actually going to the game ?? I have a day tried at Headingley in April, still getting hypothermia treatment.... :shocked:

tbh I use a relatives Sky Go account to access Sky Sports, very cost effective, but i might consider paying if they had a cricket channel.

denphone 27-06-2017 15:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905241)
You mean by actually going to the game ?? I have a day tried at Headingley in April, still getting hypothermia treatment....

Test match cricket , Twitter , Facebook all have regular cricket updates and in the case of TMS its live ball by ball.

---------- Post added at 15:52 ---------- Previous post was at 15:50 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905241)
You mean by actually going to the game ?? I have a day tried at Headingley in April, still getting hypothermia treatment.... ;)

tbh I use a relatives Sky Go account to access Sky Sports, very cost effective, but i might consider paying if they had a cricket channel.

So we have one thing in common as my late friend often jokingly called me a Southern softie like your good self.;)

Mr K 27-06-2017 15:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35905243)
Test match cricket , Twitter , Facebook all have regular cricket updates and in the case of TMS its live ball by ball.

---------- Post added at 15:52 ---------- Previous post was at 15:50 ----------



So we have one thing in common as my late friend often jokingly called me a Southern softie like your good self.;)

Yes definitely getting softer in old age !

Big TMS fan. Ideal way is to watch Sky muted with the TMS commentary on the radio, syncing the sound can be an artform though....

denphone 27-06-2017 15:57

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l wonder what those great wise sages of this forum MM and OB think of this?.

theone2k10 27-06-2017 16:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35905210)
Yes, I see that, but personally, I don't want to go there.

I can't help thinking that there will be consequences one day. At the moment, with vpns, people have a sense of security, but ultimately, I believe a way will be found (if it hasn't already) to track what you are doing, and all these past gateway busting methods will leave a permanent digital footprint.

I prefer to sleep at night!

You do realise using a vpn is perfectly legal right?
Also watching tv from other regions including different netflix or amazon instant video regions is not illegal.
Torrents are a different matter they are not illegal however downloading copyright material is illegal which makes torrents a minefield they aren't illegal as there is plenty of perfectly legal content and software that use torrents.
Streaming also is not illegal it's a grey area but not illegal.

---------- Post added at 16:07 ---------- Previous post was at 16:04 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35905213)
With the content, I'm not 100%, but could it be something to do with how shows are licensed in the UK? Some shows may be tied to an individual broadcaster before it is allowed on Neftlix. Just a guess...:erm:

No you're spot on there mate but Netflix and others seem to think charging the UK more than other regions is fine where they should try to bring the pricing equal in all regions.
WWE Network is another one guilty of charging the uk far more than other regions £9.99 in uk $9.99 in usa which works out about £8.50 but at the time when wwe launched it's network in uk $9.99 was only around £6.70.

---------- Post added at 16:08 ---------- Previous post was at 16:07 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905230)
Good move, only interested in the cricket. Shouldn't have to pay for Premiership football boredom.

From what i've seen on Dspy cricket will be on fta tv from 2020.

Mr K 27-06-2017 16:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35905259)

From what i've seen on Dspy cricket will be on fta tv from 2020.

only a few 20/20's i.e not real cricket

OLD BOY 27-06-2017 18:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35905259)
You do realise using a vpn is perfectly legal right?
Also watching tv from other regions including different netflix or amazon instant video regions is not illegal.
Torrents are a different matter they are not illegal however downloading copyright material is illegal which makes torrents a minefield they aren't illegal as there is plenty of perfectly legal content and software that use torrents.
Streaming also is not illegal it's a grey area but not illegal

I am sure you believe that, theone, but the fact is, when you are watching stuff on the US version of Netflix, for example, you have access to programmes that are not available on that platform in the UK. That means that by watching that programme, you are infringing copyright.

For example, if a programme in the UK is available on Sky, and you watch it on Netflix US, you are denying Sky the revenue they should be getting from you. The position is complicated, and the reasons for different charges in different countries is caused by a range of considerations, including the cost of broadcasting in different countries.

I think people have been misled into thinking that there is nothing unlawful about accessing material they are not meant to be watching because great play has been given to the fact that they are prosecuting the operators of pirate sites, the sellers of fully loaded Kodi boxes, etc rather than those viewing the material.

However, when the technology permits more easily the ability to track down those watching material on sites they should not be accessing, it would be strange indeed if those doing so were not finally brought to book.

Make the most of it while you can may be your motto, but these chickens may finally come home to roost.

Basically, watching material you are not supposed to look at in this way is just as unlawful as watching without a tv licence. The fact that they are not going after you right now doesn't mean it's lawful and it doesn't mean that they won't catch up with you with a big fat bill eventually.

With that in mind, my interest in Kodi and vpns is now exhausted, and I'm out, as they say.

theone2k10 27-06-2017 18:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35905288)
I am sure you believe that, theone, but the fact is, when you are watching stuff on the US version of Netflix, for example, you have access to programmes that are not available on that platform in the UK. That means that by watching that programme, you are infringing copyright.

For example, if a programme in the UK is available on Sky, and you watch it on Netflix US, you are denying Sky the revenue they should be getting from you. The position is complicated, and the reasons for different charges in different countries is caused by a range of considerations, including the cost of broadcasting in different countries.

I think people have been misled into thinking that there is nothing unlawful about accessing material they are not meant to be watching because great play has been given to the fact that they are prosecuting the operators of pirate sites, the sellers of fully loaded Kodi boxes, etc rather than those viewing the material.

However, when the technology permits more easily the ability to track down those watching material on sites they should not be accessing, it would be strange indeed if those doing so were not finally brought to book.

Make the most of it while you can may be your motto, but these chickens may finally come home to roost.

Basically, watching material you are not supposed to look at in this way is just as unlawful as watching without a tv licence. The fact that they are not going after you right now doesn't mean it's lawful and it doesn't mean that they won't catch up with you with a big fat bill eventually.

With that in mind, my interest in Kodi and vpns is now exhausted, and I'm out, as they say.

Out before i provide you with some actual facts dear chap?
When used for legal purposes, VPNs are not considered illegal in most countries and anyone can go ahead and start using a VPN service. The act of surfing through another IP is legal, and is something even the biggest companies in the world do all the time. If you however hide behind a VPN service to perform illegal activities, then you’re of course violating the law.
What’s Considered Illegal?

Certain activities are absolutely illegal and shouldn’t be performed with a VPN service. Most quality VPN providers will strictly forbid these in their terms of service:

Child pornography
Email and account hacking
Spreading viruses
Spamming via email or other ways
Fraud, theft, scamming
In countries that restrict online movie providers, you can use a VPN to unlock these sites to gain access to their files and videos. Generally, using this system for legal purposes is fine in most countries unless you are found to have used it for illegal reasons. Hiding your IP address to perform illegal activities can get you in trouble.
nothing about watching tv from other countries https://vpn-services.bestreviews.net...-to-use-a-vpn/ a bit like your on going debate about online tv replacing linear tv really another argument you start but fail epicly and on that i shall leave it there *drops the mic*

Gunslinger 27-06-2017 19:08

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Computer Misuse Act 1990:
1 Unauthorised access to computer material.
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if—
(a) he causes a computer to perform any function with intent to secure access to any program or data held in any computer [F1, or to enable any such access to be secured] ;
(b) the access he intends to secure [F2, or to enable to be secured,] is unauthorised; and
(c) he knows at the time when he causes the computer to perform the function that that is the case.
(2) The intent a person has to have to commit an offence under this section need not be directed at—
(a) any particular program or data;
(b) a program or data of any particular kind; or
(c) a program or data held in any particular computer.
A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable—
(a) on summary conviction in England and Wales, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or to both;
(b) on summary conviction in Scotland, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding [F412] months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or to both;
(c) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or to a fine or to both.]

A relatively low level offence, but criminal just the same. It would seem that just using a VPN in itself does not give you 'authorised' access to data (i.e. content) you are not entitled to have access to. In fact you may by fraudulently misrepresenting your location and entitlement to access that content with intent to avoid payment for it, also be guilty of the rather more serious offence of fraud.

OLD BOY 27-06-2017 19:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35905292)
Out before i provide you with some actual facts dear chap?
When used for legal purposes, VPNs are not considered illegal in most countries and anyone can go ahead and start using a VPN service. The act of surfing through another IP is legal, and is something even the biggest companies in the world do all the time. If you however hide behind a VPN service to perform illegal activities, then you’re of course violating the law.
What’s Considered Illegal?

Certain activities are absolutely illegal and shouldn’t be performed with a VPN service. Most quality VPN providers will strictly forbid these in their terms of service:

Child pornography
Email and account hacking
Spreading viruses
Spamming via email or other ways
Fraud, theft, scamming
In countries that restrict online movie providers, you can use a VPN to unlock these sites to gain access to their files and videos. Generally, using this system for legal purposes is fine in most countries unless you are found to have used it for illegal reasons. Hiding your IP address to perform illegal activities can get you in trouble.
nothing about watching tv from other countries https://vpn-services.bestreviews.net...-to-use-a-vpn/ a bit like your on going debate about online tv replacing linear tv really another argument you start but fail epicly and on that i shall leave it there *drops the mic*

Using a vpn is not in itself unlawful, I agree. What you use it for is the issue.

Thank you for the link. That makes it alright, then.

And yet....


https://thevpn.guru/is-kodi-legal-sa...vacy-security/

theone2k10 27-06-2017 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35905298)
Using a vpn is not in itself unlawful, I agree. What you use it for is the issue.

Thank you for the link. That makes it alright, then.

And yet....


https://thevpn.guru/is-kodi-legal-sa...vacy-security/

Kodi has perfectly legal addons such as ABC, Freeform, foxsport etc it is a grey area to use these in uk but for now it is not illegal but is frowned upon.
Kodi themselves have stated they want to work with tv providers to get more legit addons onboard and if abc, fox are anything to go by it may be tv companies are getting onboard.
Then you get to the addons provided by third parties which i did use yes but have stopped using them not because they are illegal but because they can expose your network.
I shall continue to use kodi, i have sky and netflix but some shows i enjoy aren't on uk networks Salem being a prime example and stitchers that is why i use kodi other stuff aka arrow, the flash etc i watch via skygo.
Also regarding movies i tend to rent them via my ps4 as psn rental is cheaper than sky box office and it's hd too.
Hope this clears up things a little i'm not the naughty boy you make me out to be :p:

Gunslinger 27-06-2017 19:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Using a VPN per se is not illegal. Using it to access content or other data with intent to avoid payment to the owner of that content may well be.
The fact that content owners like Sky have not gone for users illegally accessing their content does not mean they will never do so. More likely they will put pressure on the likes of Netflix to crack down on VPN use.

theone2k10 27-06-2017 19:45

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunslinger (Post 35905304)
Using a VPN per se is not illegal. Using it to access content or other data with intent to avoid payment to the owner of that content may well be.
The fact that content owners like Sky have not gone for users illegally accessing their content does not mean they will never do so. More likely they will put pressure on the likes of Netflix to crack down on VPN use.

Netflix have already cracked down on vpns, Netflix to their credit are aiming to get global rights for content so they can show the same content in all regions they operate in.

OLD BOY 27-06-2017 19:51

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35905303)
Kodi has perfectly legal addons such as ABC, Freeform, foxsport etc it is a grey area to use these in uk but for now it is not illegal but is frowned upon.
Kodi themselves have stated they want to work with tv providers to get more legit addons onboard and if abc, fox are anything to go by it may be tv companies are getting onboard.
Then you get to the addons provided by third parties which i did use yes but have stopped using them not because they are illegal but because they can expose your network.
I shall continue to use kodi, i have sky and netflix but some shows i enjoy aren't on uk networks Salem being a prime example and stitchers that is why i use kodi other stuff aka arrow, the flash etc i watch via skygo.
Also regarding movies i tend to rent them via my ps4 as psn rental is cheaper than sky box office and it's hd too.
Hope this clears up things a little i'm not the naughty boy you make me out to be :p:

:) Good luck to you, theone - I'm not judging you, but others reading these posts could be led astray if they are not wary, and that is why I responded.

There are certainly some grey areas, but that doesn't mean that you don't run the risk of prosecution.

Readers also need to know that by accessing other geographical Netflix sites, they are breaching Netflix's conditions of use.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35905309)
Netflix have already cracked down on vpns, Netflix to their credit are aiming to get global rights for content so they can show the same content in all regions they operate in.

Now, that is definitely a move in the right direction!

RichardCoulter 27-06-2017 20:46

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
TruTV +1 has been resurrected on Sky by the channels new owners. Wonder if it's coming to VM?

Media Boy UK 28-06-2017 15:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35905061)
Does this relate to one or more new channels (or streaming services) of any worth coming to VM or will it be another damp squib?

Can't reveal more at this time...

Our Media Boy Sources has given us an DNP order.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 35905216)
Some more info on changes to Sky Sports:
New channels include one for golf, one for cricket, two for football and Sky Sports Arena for rugby, tennis and other sport. Entry point is £18.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...l-golf-cricket

Paper talk.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35905320)
TruTV +1 has been resurrected on Sky by the channels new owners. Wonder if it's coming to VM?

Maybe JJ20X will know more.

But as far as MB HQ knows no more Sony UK (Sony runs TruTV UK now) own channels are still to launch on Virgin Media UK any time soon.

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Confirmed: Disney XD +1 will be rebrand as TBC.

But will be showing Spider Man 24/7 for July from July 3rd.

On Virgin UK Channel 708.

Info from Virgin TV Kids and TiVo.

jj20x 29-06-2017 03:14

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35905320)
TruTV +1 has been resurrected on Sky by the channels new owners. Wonder if it's coming to VM?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35905418)
Maybe JJ20X will know more.

But as far as MB HQ knows no more Sony UK (Sony runs TruTV UK now) own channels are still to launch on Virgin Media UK any time soon.

I've not been given any scan data for the past few days and it is unlikely that I will get any before the first week in July, so I've certainly not seen anything. I wouldn't have thought that Sony would be in a mad rush to bring TruTV +1 to VM, I think it will be in the queue behind, True Entertainment +1, True Movies +1, True Crime and the rest, which may or may not be coming soon...

Meanwhile, Brit Asia TV has now been added to the EPG on channel 840.

nodrogd 29-06-2017 07:06

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Its noticeable that MPEG4 muxes are now in use.

Just recorded a 2 1/2 hour film on TPTV. Only shows as using 1 hour of space on the disk.

OLD BOY 29-06-2017 07:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35905514)
Its noticeable that MPEG4 muxes are now in use.

Just recorded a 2 1/2 hour film on TPTV. Only shows as using 1 hour of space on the disk.

Well, that's good news. My HD recordings take up a considerable amount of space on my V6s.

Inactive Digital 29-06-2017 07:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35905514)
Its noticeable that MPEG4 muxes are now in use.

Just recorded a 2 1/2 hour film on TPTV. Only shows as using 1 hour of space on the disk.

I thought it was only the HD channels that were changing to mpeg4?
I take it there are no SD-only capable boxes out in circulation nowadays?


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