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Liberty, as already mentioned, contribute and co-own a standardised software bundle called RDK which Horizon runs on. I don't see how Liberty would invest in this and then run a completely different system, tivo, in parallel to their own stuff. 200 odd companies are involved in RDK, so why bother with tivo now? RDK's website: http://rdkcentral.com/ ---------- Post added at 16:51 ---------- Previous post was at 16:48 ---------- Re apps, Liberty have their own Netflix-ish app called MyPrime. Can only be a matter of time before it launches on VM. It's on LG's other cablecos. At some point VM UK and VM Ireland's services will be integrated. So we should really look here for pointers: https://www.virginmedia.ie/televisio...ut-television/ |
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You are only allowed to know that there is a DNP order, remember? The little snippet of information that you thought was so useful in a previous post! ;) |
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.... the Telegraph article is rubbish.
Horizon is a front end, a user interface. It's not a distribution system at all, so no idea what they're going on about. |
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Unless, of course, you are theone or you work at that tall shiny office building that is Media Boy HQ :D |
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I expect there will be some sort of communication close to the deployment in your area, as there was for the people in the first pilot regions. |
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They are struggling in the states as it's been found that those not prepared to pay for television are also not prepared to pay the TiVo fee. It looks to me that the only way that they are able to keep going in the states is by doing what they did in the UK- joining forces with cable companies, even by doing this their penetration is an abysmal less than 2%. They are currently trying to sell themselves to Rovi. If this falls through, I think that TiVo will either fold or be bought up by a cable company (who then won't have to pay licensing fees). I wonder if the launch of MyPrime will affect carriage of Netflix? |
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MyPrime is just the brand the other LG cablecos use for their On Demand services. So if it did launch here, it would in effect just be a renaming exercise of VM's exisiting services. (Everyone forgets we've had "streaming" on cable long before Netflix ever existed aka On Demand/VOD - Video On Demand.)
I really can't call it on Tivo's future. Some say the company will become more successful than ever and its share price will double over the next year or so and others say the opposite. I wouldn't be too surprised if John Malone came along and made an offer for TIVO at some point. He doesn't like to keep all his eggs in one basket... TIVO, as we see it on VM, has all the potential but poorly implemented and neglected. TIVO has always had powerful search features long before SkyQ or Netflix, but its a pain in the neck navigating around on VM's version. THe On Demand section is a mess and text based, yet if you search for the same stuff in Search & Discover you get nice pictures and its just a better experience. Perhaps if the imminent software upgrade does improve things, VM will stick with TIVO for the time being. But unless they sort out the basic useability issues (which have always been poor in UK cable's history) ie slow channel change, sluggish menus/operation etc, I don't see a future for TIVO here. |
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After that, I think the likelihood is that the next box for VM will be an enhanced Horizon box. Expect that to be well advanced in Virgin's plans about three years from now, with a planned rollout in 2021, if not a little before. |
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It wouldn't make business sense for virgin or any other company to reveal all its plans so who knows what sort of box virgin have planned for us next. I for one are prepared to wait and are thankful of any snippets of news mediaboy or spiderplant bring us.
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http://www.cnet.com/news/tivo-roamio...tag=CAD590a51e
"As with its other DVRs, the new model will have access to over-the-top (OTT) services as well including Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime Instant Video and YouTube. It will also have the company's newest viewing options such as SkipMode that allows you to skip commercial breaks with a single button press." I know this is for the U.S. |
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We certainly won't be getting advert skip. I did read elsewhere that Turner are developing a classic film on-demand service. I can envisage this coming to the UK and VM in particular. |
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Hasn't it been said that the contract with TiVo ends in 2018 though??
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The TiVo will be around in my humble opinion for the next 5 years at least...
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As for the existing Tivo contract, my guess is that it will simply be renewed for the desired period so that existing boxes can continue to be supported. |
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Another forum member has stated that he has been told by a VM rep that "the V+ will be redundant by the end of the year". Will we then get TiVo software dropped onto the V boxes as mooted a few years back? A mop up of any customers still using old SD boxes could mean everyone on TiVo software in preparation for the introduction of Horizon. |
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I'd imagine if the Tivo software is slow on the current boxes it would be even slower if run at all on the older V boxes.
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.... you raise a interesting point. What happens to the liberate software on the v boxes? I wonder how long the Liberate contract still has to run? Will the v boxes be phased out and the current "premium" tivo boxes become the bog standard ones instead.
I have a v box and it runs faster than the tivo, mainly because its 2 week guide was striped out of it some time ago. I seem to recall VM saying a few years ago that they would download tivo software onto the standard boxes minus the recording features. I can't say I'd be thrilled about that if that's still the plan. It's ironic that ALL Freeview boxes of today run faster than anything that VM offer. And as for Amazon Fire sticks, or Chrome, or any other USB stick, they are far, far, better than our "premium" boxes for which we pay a premium for. |
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That is why I use Tivo just as a PVR and streamer boxes for OTT. |
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I don't know if V boxes will get TiVo software or not, but the then CEO did say that it was an option some years ago. My old V+ box was stripped of some services over the years, I had no idea that this had also been done to the V boxes too. As you say, if these boxes are struggling now, I wonder how/if they could cope with TiVo software. It was interesting to read in the VM Ireland link that someone provided earlier that HD channels appear to be provided as standard for the channels subscribed to for the two TV packages that VM Ireland appear to offer. I think it's now time that VM did this in the UK as I don't think that HD should be regarded as a premium service in 2016. Even Sky are scrapping their HD charge for movies from 1/6/16. The charge remains for sport, not sure about the position with regards to the HD variants of the basic channels. http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...-provided.html |
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Oh yes, you can be sure that Sky will be introducing a 4K/UHD charge and may even take steps to prevent the channel/s being carried by competing platforms ;) |
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Due to cost considerations PVR's are typically replaced every 5-6 years, Streamer sticks every 1-2 years. If you want PVRs replaced more frequently, you need to be prepared to pay more for your VM services. I'm guessing it would be cheaper to shell out for a streamer stick, than pay the price rise that VM would have to impose to replace their PVR every two years. |
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... it would be nice to have the option to choose what equipment we can use, so that I can organise things as I want them, not as VM want them.
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2040: Sky announce holographic tv and it you want to watch footballers moving around your room in glorious Sky holovision, you'll need to subscribe to Sky directly. and on and on it goes. |
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VM may get some 4k channels Discovery are rumoured to be launching a 4k channel so hopefully this will be on VM at some point. |
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This is why Virgin need to get back in the content game, so they can compete with Sky on more equal terms. |
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It would take billions to compete with BT and Sky if they wanted to get back into the content game and somehow l don't think Virgin will be going down that route anytime soon.
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" , along with the option to stream and back-up recorded content to LAN devices (laptop and other STB etc), just like the US TiVo." |
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Thanks Spiderplant. |
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Sadly, UK content wouldn't have allowed that anyway. It will be interesting how much content will be allowed to be streamed to tablets on the new Tivo. MRS on the current Tivo is extremely limited, so much so that it's almost useless. Again, probably down to content providers restricting, or wanting extra money for the privilege. |
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MRS should have been the same. Whether content providers have softened their stance on this recently or Sky have more clout with content providers (or prepared to pay them more money) will be interesting to see when the new Tivo is released. |
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Irish TV 'In talks' to launch on Virgin Media.
The independent in Ireland is reporting that Virgin Media are in talks with Irish TV to appear on the company's media platform. But We do not know if Irish TV will appear just on Virgin Media Ireland or also added on Virgin Media UK as well. http://www.independent.ie/business/m...-34652213.html |
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However, whether or not they should participate in Premier League bidding, that is a different matter. Sports rights have got totally out of hand. |
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I thought most (or all) channels can be streamed with MRS now?
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Here's a copy of the original press release (thank you, Horizon and CF - old VM press releases seem to have been lost in the LGI takeover) http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35117225-post641.html ---------- Post added at 18:15 ---------- Previous post was at 18:12 ---------- Quote:
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I seriously doubt the VM big wigs are e-mailing sensitive commercial information to a few select people, as you seem to be suggesting. The DNPs will also be important because his sources could be one of a handful of people in the know, and if the info is leaked, it could possibly be tracked to that person. Personally, I do not care what the arrangement is between VM and MB (and equally throne) I am grateful for the info MB and the one share with us - even if it is just DNPs. ---------- Post added at 02:58 ---------- Previous post was at 02:37 ---------- Quote:
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I certainly wouldn't watch it, even if I was Irish, and I can't see most people wasting their time watching this stuff. Why expect Virgin to rack up the costs in putting on channels that no-one will watch, just for the sake of it? |
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So it's just At The Races outside Ireland and Northern Ireland.
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It really amazes me that on a day when we get a letter, saying that our Sky sports package is going by 3.00 quid. Its a make in the teeth, when they say we get BT sport amongst the package - free.
VM must thinl that l am thick. They claim that Sky have put up the package rate to us. No wonder customers complain.. Sky reps in Hounslow have said that they can offer us 50% discount if we return to Sky. For the first time, my wife even stopped to speak with them. Anymore increases and we still have the same channels. Then it will be back to SKY |
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Was chatting to a engineer who was visiting a neighbour he says the new software is in testing due to issues, new TiVo coming at Christmas and 1 new TiVo per customer for first six months
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Hopefully it will be worth the wait.:)
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It would be good if we just got a few new channels - ie the missing Freeview ones. Where I reside the Freeview signal is dreadful so channels like SpikeTV etc would be nice.
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Well sorry to be a bearer of bad tidings John but it coming soon...
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I noticed last night that Virgin seem to have removed the copyright restrictions from the TiVo which stopped the multi-room streaming... i was able to stream everything :D
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Also there is no longer a list of channels showing what available and the power cables for sharing now gone from her site, maybe this is for wifi on the new boxes |
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The only recordings I have found not able to stream are those from Watch. Interestingly you mention about wifi on the new boxes. The other day I was trying the streaming out and my powering network was having a moment which stoppe it from working. A message came up on screen saying if you are using a wifi connection then try Ethernet, not seen that before. |
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Has anybody had problems receiving some of their channels early this morning as l could not get any pictures on quite a few channels this morning although it has sorted itself out now.
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Game of Thrones.
Oops no silly me, I was thinking of a relatives SkyGo account that I pilfer... |
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