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BenMcr 31-03-2016 12:12

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Anyway, who even uses the menu itself? Since Vista (if I recall correctly) it's much quicker to just type straight into the Start search box to find any program you wish to run or file you wish to access.

SnoopZ 31-03-2016 12:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35830145)
Anyway, who even uses the menu itself? Since Vista (if I recall correctly) it's much quicker to just type straight into the Start search box to find any program you wish to run or file you wish to access.

I think i use Window 10s right click on the start menu more than anything other than shutting down.

Tinky 31-03-2016 16:34

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Psst see post 1587 my settings do not work, and in fact today I downloaded ISO repair windows 10 disk and still I can't get anything to work, I'm not even sure the download was successful, what a mess. :erm:

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I'm thinking now I reluctantly have to take my beloved lappy for a repair after I have now exhausted every repair option

heero_yuy 31-03-2016 18:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35830143)
That looks so dated in my opinion, no clusterfest on my freshly installed Windows 10.

It may look dated but I wasn't bought up with Fisher Price toys. ;)

Hugh 31-03-2016 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35830215)
It may look dated but I wasn't bought up with Fisher Price toys. ;)

Meccano?

Sirius 01-04-2016 07:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35830126)
So much hatred for Windows 10 when it is by far the best MS OS to date, in my opinion.

Windows 10 is fine if you have control over it. I have blocked there spyware, i have blocked the forced updates. I only update when i want to having checked that any update does not have problems. As long as you control windows 10 and not Microsoft its fine.

techguyone 01-04-2016 10:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35830126)
So much hatred for Windows 10 when it is by far the best MS OS to date, in my opinion.

you're welcome to your opinion, some of us however, have proved demonstrably that for the more ... demanding user, it's pretty poor, and some of us have been using MS products for many years.

I myself have experience with: 3.1, 95, 98, ME, NT4, W2K, XP, Vista & Windows 8.1

10 is far from the best, newest doesn't by any means, make it best..

SnoopZ 01-04-2016 11:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35830296)
you're welcome to your opinion, some of us however, have proved demonstrably that for the more ... demanding user, it's pretty poor, and some of us have been using MS products for many years.

I myself have experience with: 3.1, 95, 98, ME, NT4, W2K, XP, Vista & Windows 8.1

10 is far from the best, newest doesn't by any means, make it best..

Likewise with opinions and all the scare stories.

denphone 01-04-2016 11:45

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Well each to their own opinions but l am pretty happy with Windows 10 and would certainly not go back to the others.

MUD_Wizard 01-04-2016 14:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35829991)
No offence to Tinky, but your idea is way out of their league, she will want to keep things simple by using Windows 10, ie no installing stuff just switch on and go, nothing else.

Linux Mint Cinnamon standard install is just switch on and go.

Everything that most average users need is already installed and setup out of the box. Including drivers, Microsoft/Adobe compatible apps and codecs. The only thing I added was Chrome instead of Firefox, because that's my preference.


What you're suggesting with Windows 10 recovery isn't exactly switch on and go! Updates/Apps will need to be installed and data restored.

Any updates will put them in the same situation again. Never ending recoveries.. joy.

Tinky 01-04-2016 15:37

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I have lost heart, I've tried several times to do a repair install and when it gets to checking for updates it just hangs, I gave it 5 hours today to find the updates but to no avail.:(

SnoopZ 01-04-2016 17:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MUD_Wizard (Post 35830335)
Linux Mint Cinnamon standard install is just switch on and go.

Everything that most average users need is already installed and setup out of the box. Including drivers, Microsoft/Adobe compatible apps and codecs. The only thing I added was Chrome instead of Firefox, because that's my preference.


What you're suggesting with Windows 10 recovery isn't exactly switch on and go! Updates/Apps will need to be installed and data restored.

Any updates will put them in the same situation again. Never ending recoveries.. joy.

I know you're just trying to be helpful MUD as you always are, but knowing Tinky they would struggle, you have to think about the older Windows OS user here not the younger ones that feel brave enough to do things like that, i know just like my retired parents they wouldn't touch that with a bargepole as it would stress them out too much as they only know Windows, so Windows would be the best option for my parents too.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinky (Post 35830345)
I have lost heart, I've tried several times to do a repair install and when it gets to checking for updates it just hangs, I gave it 5 hours today to find the updates but to no avail.:(

Sorry you're having issues Tinky, you may find it easier to take it to someone to get it done for you, if you're finding you're not able to do a clean install with fresh media. :(

Tinky 01-04-2016 18:58

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at 17:11 ---------- Previous post was at 17:09 ----------



Sorry you're having issues Tinky, you may find it easier to take it to someone to get it done for you, if you're finding you're not able to do a clean install with fresh media. :([/QUOTE

Thank you Snoopz unfortunately it is looking more and more likely that I will have to pay someone to get my beloved lappy back on track. I think I may have demonstrated several times over the years that although I am a 'mature lady' I am still game to go one step beyond what others here would consider too technical, for example I have followed all the instructions given here including Task Manager, Powershell, scf /scannow etc but to no avail, thanks to all who once again tried to help me. :(

heero_yuy 01-04-2016 19:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by idi banashapan (Post 35728543)

Is your friend in banishing the frippery. W7 onwards.

Professional power users don't use tiles.

Anonymouse 02-04-2016 16:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35830133)
If M$ concentrated on getting the oily bits right instead of adding frills and ruffs we'd all be better off.

<slightly O/T>Tell me about it. I abandoned an MCAD course I was working on back in '03 because as far as I could see, too much emphasis was placed on standardisation and not on whether software actually worked. I'll admit I was never much of a designer - I preferred to get the damn thing working first, then play around with the interface. I was too busy actually writing code to design it. My rule was always: functionality first, appearance second.

(As an example, I wrote a relatively simple text menu-based program in GFA BASIC on my Atari ST to draw various fractals. Later, when I learned how, I changed the menu to a mouse-driven one...but the core program was virtually unchanged.)

But MS adopts entirely the opposite policy, and in fact all the .NET languages force you to adopt it, unless you want to actually type in every line of code instead of using already-written objects.

After a while I found I couldn't stomach it any more, and I quit doing the course...despite having already paid the enormous fee for it, I couldn't let myself become a sellout - besides, I couldn't cope with the long-winded way the .NET platform does things. I much preferred Visual Basic 5 - much easier. I tried, and utterly failed, to convert the VB5 version of my fractals program to .NET; the way it handles graphics is so complicated. </slightly O/T>

I've heard more bad than good about Windows 10, so I think I'll steer clear for a while. :p:


nashville 02-04-2016 17:36

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Thank the Lord, I am still Windows 7". Must be a nightmare for you Tinky

SnoopZ 02-04-2016 17:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nashville (Post 35830545)
Thank the Lord, I am still Windows 7". Must be a nightmare for you Tinky

Don't let the fact that 1 person here is having an issue with Windows 10 put you off.

heero_yuy 02-04-2016 17:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35830243)
Meccano?

Meccano is for people who want to get things done. Fisher price is for keeping the children quiet. ;)

Tinky 02-04-2016 19:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nashville (Post 35830545)
Thank the Lord, I am still Windows 7". Must be a nightmare for you Tinky

Nash I debated for quite sometime about upgrading and believe me, like yourself, I was really sceptical.
However I decided because I was a free upgrade, the offer was too hard to resist. I decided to go for it, the first upgrade was not satisfactory and I reverted back to windows 7 because I found that apps I had installed were not working/had disappeared in Windows 10. But I decided to give it one more chance and reinstalled Windows 10, and up until now I have been fairly happy with it until now. Believe me Nash I have exhausted every avenue suggested on the net trying to sort it out. I am not scared to try resolving problems, in the past I have installed a new DVD player and also a new hard drive on my old PC, things that some on here would understandably not be prepared to tackle. I am happy to consider any option suggested to resolve my problem if only someone would come up with a suggested resolution.

MUD_Wizard 02-04-2016 21:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35830369)
I know you're just trying to be helpful MUD as you always are, but knowing Tinky they would struggle, you have to think about the older Windows OS user here not the younger ones that feel brave enough to do things like that

Have you used Linux Mint Cinnamon? It doesn't sound like you have.

Also what you're saying doesn't tally. The suggestions in this thread for how to fix Windows 10 are waaay more complicated than either installing or using Linux Mint.

The whole Mint project has been designed with the idea of that group of people in mind, moving from Windows.

This is a non-technical mum using Linux Mint for the first time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-PTQVeCF9k

The naming has been improved a lot since version 14, which this video is showing, as well.

mart44 02-04-2016 22:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35830369)
I know you're just trying to be helpful MUD as you always are, but knowing Tinky they would struggle, you have to think about the older Windows OS user here not the younger ones that feel brave enough to do things like that, i know just like my retired parents they wouldn't touch that with a bargepole as it would stress them out too much as they only know Windows, so Windows would be the best option for my parents too.

My primary OS will probably always be a Microsoft one. It has been Windows 10 Pro from about 8 months ago and it is running fine for me (carried out a clean installation rather than an in-place upgrade).

However, Linux Mint with the Cinnamon Desktop is also good. Just as easy, or even easier, to set up and use than Windows 10 I'd say. It has nearly everything included in the installation to make it run out of the box.

Windows 10 when running properly is good but no matter whether young or old, there's no need to be wary of installing Linux Mint. I did so on a spare computer and use it often.

Mart44 - aged seventy-one and a half.

SnoopZ 02-04-2016 23:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MUD_Wizard (Post 35830570)
Have you used Linux Mint Cinnamon? It doesn't sound like you have.

Also what you're saying doesn't tally. The suggestions in this thread for how to fix Windows 10 are waaay more complicated than either installing or using Linux Mint.

The whole Mint project has been designed with the idea of that group of people in mind, moving from Windows.

This is a non-technical mum using Linux Mint for the first time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-PTQVeCF9k

The naming has been improved a lot since version 14, which this video is showing, as well.

My point being is you're suggesting a pensioner that struggles with computers ditches Windows, and I think that is the wrong way to go, considering I know how Tinky has struggled over the years. I am not saying Linux is bad but think for Tinky they wouldn't attempt such a change.

Tinky 03-04-2016 15:37

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Hurrah!!!! After days of trying to get my beloved lappy to work properly I finally did it, don't ask me how, it took over 2 hours but I got there, and I am absolutely over the moon. Was about to take it to get fixed tomorrow! This has made my day. :):):):):):):)

denphone 03-04-2016 15:44

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That's excellent news Tinky.:tu:

SnoopZ 03-04-2016 16:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinky (Post 35830673)
Hurrah!!!! After days of trying to get my beloved lappy to work properly I finally did it, don't ask me how, it took over 2 hours but I got there, and I am absolutely over the moon. Was about to take it to get fixed tomorrow! This has made my day. :):):):):):):)

Well done Tinky, glad you got it sorted, shame you don't know how though! haha

Tinky 03-04-2016 16:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35830679)
Well done Tinky, glad you got it sorted, shame you don't know how though! haha


Thank you SnoopZ

Thinking back, by a sheer fluke it actually allowed me to get back into settings and I found the 'reset my computer' button and pushed it quick before I gave myself the chance to think, I was so desperate. However I have retained my pictures and documents the only difference was I couldn't find my Windows Mail button, but no loss there (it was useless anyway) because I will now be using the Windows 10 mail instead and all my contacts have been retained, so what's not to like? :):):)

SnoopZ 03-04-2016 16:33

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Lets hope it doesn't happen again, but if it does make sure everything you don't want to lose are backed up in a few different places. :)

MUD_Wizard 03-04-2016 18:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35830579)
My point being is you're suggesting a pensioner that struggles with computers ditches Windows, and I think that is the wrong way to go, considering I know how Tinky has struggled over the years. I am not saying Linux is bad but think for Tinky they wouldn't attempt such a change.

Where did I say to ditch Windows?

I said "Take a holiday from Microsoft issues, as I've done. So happy I did that.

Install Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon in a few minutes and use it straight out of the box, for whatever you want and become productive again. Then reinstall Windows 10 at your leisure.

<links>

You can access the Windows volume from Linux Mint easily to make a copy or backup any of your files you want before you re-install Windows.
"

Advising to dual-boot so you have more options isn't telling someone to ditch Windows... they then have a choice (and an extra recovery mechanism), which they didn't have before.

You'd be surprised how far some Linux distros for the regular user have come in the last few years. Some of them have Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8.1 desktop choices now.

I wouldn't be advocating Mint if it wasn't so like Windows 7 that you didn't feel you had left Windows. I have to keep reminding myself I'm running Linux by remembering I don't need Anti-virus anymore! What a joy.

I will get back to Windows 7/10 for my re-install at some point and some gaming and then to maybe add a third boot for a developer Hackintosh setup.


Windows users since MS-DOS.

SnoopZ 03-04-2016 19:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MUD_Wizard (Post 35830719)
Where did I say to ditch Windows?

I said "Take a holiday from Microsoft issues, as I've done. So happy I did that.

Install Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon in a few minutes and use it straight out of the box, for whatever you want and become productive again. Then reinstall Windows 10 at your leisure.

<links>

You can access the Windows volume from Linux Mint easily to make a copy or backup any of your files you want before you re-install Windows.
"

Advising to dual-boot so you have more options isn't telling someone to ditch Windows... they then have a choice (and an extra recovery mechanism), which they didn't have before.

You'd be surprised how far some Linux distros for the regular user have come in the last few years. Some of them have Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8.1 desktop choices now.

I wouldn't be advocating Mint if it wasn't so like Windows 7 that you didn't feel you had left Windows. I have to keep reminding myself I'm running Linux by remembering I don't need Anti-virus anymore! What a joy.

I will get back to Windows 7/10 for my re-install at some point and some gaming and then to maybe add a third boot for a developer Hackintosh setup.


Windows users since MS-DOS.

Apologies if i misunderstood your posts, i was under the impression you were suggesting Tinky ditch Windows and install Linux to solve her Windows 10 problem, and knowing just how Tinky is from the forums i didn't think that was the way to go for them.

Anyway moving on, Tinky managed to get it all fixed eventually so we can now move on and get the thread back on track. :)

progers 03-04-2016 23:15

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Well done Tinky :)

joglynne 04-04-2016 12:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinky (Post 35830673)
Hurrah!!!! After days of trying to get my beloved lappy to work properly I finally did it, don't ask me how, it took over 2 hours but I got there, and I am absolutely over the moon. Was about to take it to get fixed tomorrow! This has made my day. :):):):):):):)

Well done Tinks. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Osem 04-04-2016 14:30

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Yay! Well done Tinky, it must have been a nightmare and that's exactly the reason I tend to leave things which are working OK well alone unless I have to do something. To those of us who take time to become familiar with new programmes, chopping and changing in order to get a few new features we're unlikely to use anyway is more trouble than it's worth, especially when you don't have the knowledge and/or support to sort it out when things go wrong.

Progress is one thing but many people don't want to change systems they've come to like and feel secure and comfortable with? In the unlikely event that I ever bought a new car, I'd never choose the first of a brand new model. I'd much rather wait for the inevitable teething problems to surface and be properly resolved by the manufacturer/dealer (under warranty) before purchasing. I feel exactly the same about W10. Thus far I haven't seen anything from Win10 which would make my time on the PC significantly better/more rewarding/easier so why bother? If it all goes pear shaped MS aren't exactly going to spring to my aid and fix it all are they... Of course there may be lots of people who find it makes their experience better in some way and they're free to get it which is fine by me. :)

progers 05-04-2016 08:22

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I had what sounds like a similar problem to Tinky.
Had to reload Windows 10 twice, then I discovered it was down to a corrupted user profile and in the end had to create a new one and transfer everything over. It was a bit of a nightmare but hopefully now I have a fully working system.

Osem 05-04-2016 12:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by progers (Post 35830914)
I had what sounds like a similar problem to Tinky.
Had to reload Windows 10 twice, then I discovered it was down to a corrupted user profile and in the end had to create a new one and transfer everything over. It was a bit of a nightmare but hopefully now I have a fully working system.

How did you discover the corrupted user profile?

progers 06-04-2016 08:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35830939)
How did you discover the corrupted user profile?

More by luck than judgement!

There were clues I missed the first two times but, although I was logging on with an MS user account, the confirmation was when I went to add a new account to "Settings" "Accounts" and discovered that there were no user accounts shown at all!

I then enabled the built in Administrator account to do the business

Osem 06-04-2016 11:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by progers (Post 35831005)
More by luck than judgement!

There were clues I missed the first two times but, although I was logging on with an MS user account, the confirmation was when I went to add a new account to "Settings" "Accounts" and discovered that there were no user accounts shown at all!

I then enabled the built in Administrator account to do the business

That's my usual method I must say. :tu:

richard s 09-04-2016 19:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinky (Post 35830192)
Psst see post 1587 my settings do not work, and in fact today I downloaded ISO repair windows 10 disk and still I can't get anything to work, I'm not even sure the download was successful, what a mess. :erm:

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I'm thinking now I reluctantly have to take my beloved lappy for a repair after I have now exhausted every repair option

Hi Tinky how old is your lap top and what is the spec. I could not upgrade to Windows 10 because my old 32 bit, 2 gig ram, 2.55 GHz processor was not suitable. I purchased a new PC with Windows 10... So far very pleased with 10.

pip08456 09-04-2016 20:14

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Originally Posted by richard s (Post 35831674)
Hi Tinky how old is your lap top and what is the spec. I could not upgrade to Windows 10 because my old 32 bit, 2 gig ram, 2.55 GHz processor was not suitable. I purchased a new PC with Windows 10... So far very pleased with 10.

My old lappy can quite happily run W10 I just choose not to do so ATM even though I've been a member of the "Insider" team since day 1.

I use a different PC for that.

gulf4uk 16-04-2016 20:24

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How to stay on Windows 7 & 8 forever: Using GWX Control Panel

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

downloaded from the above and Win 7 now win 10 free
(caution as always back up important files)

my sons win10 was updated yesterday and removed the majority of his links, files , passwords addons and basically
made his computer unusable seems it didn't like non windows approved apps . Took a day to get it back right again
we have disabled windows update , yes its not reccomended but stops M\S tinkering

truthspeaker 17-04-2016 05:01

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Some people don't like windows 10 because they computer is to slow. CPU is to weak and less memory. So windows 10 will not run smooth. But lag.

And some don't like windows 10 because software or apps or games don't work with windows 10.

Can try linux like lubuntu and dual boot with windows.
Or try LIVE USB or DVD. Or try before installing it.

Windows XP is good for old PC or slow CPU but no more security patches unless you cracking it to 2019. Less support from Web browser and no drivers for new PC.

truthspeaker 19-04-2016 00:44

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If you have old computer you can try this for free from Microsoft Web site windows xp embedded posready 2009.
Will get updates until 2019.
Product key is on YouTube for permanent activate

roughbeast 24-04-2016 13:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gulf4uk (Post 35832802)
How to stay on Windows 7 & 8 forever: Using GWX Control Panel

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

downloaded from the above and Win 7 now win 10 free
(caution as always back up important files)

my sons win10 was updated yesterday and removed the majority of his links, files , passwords addons and basically
made his computer unusable seems it didn't like non windows approved apps . Took a day to get it back right again
we have disabled windows update , yes its not reccomended but stops M\S tinkering

The Windows 10 updates will not remove your old set up, apps, files etc if you opt to keep them. If you don't like the outcome, restore keeps your old config anyway.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by truthspeaker (Post 35832839)
Some people don't like windows 10 because they computer is to slow. CPU is to weak and less memory. So windows 10 will not run smooth. But lag.

And some don't like windows 10 because software or apps or games don't work with windows 10.

Can try linux like lubuntu and dual boot with windows.
Or try LIVE USB or DVD. Or try before installing it.

Windows XP is good for old PC or slow CPU but no more security patches unless you cracking it to 2019. Less support from Web browser and no drivers for new PC.


Yes, you have to be careful. Although W10 is generally more efficient and runs better on most machines than W7, older processors might actually give you a worse experience. Indeed W10 won't install if some processors are present.

I have been lucky with my old quadcore machine. I was very impressed with W7, but W10 boots up faster, ( 25 seconds to be usable) and apps run more quickly. I have updated with the most recent W10 build (Version 1511) only last weekend.

djmagnifique 24-04-2016 18:09

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I want to upgrade to Windows 10 but i'm on Win7 home at the moment so i'll lose control over how updates are done, that is a big stop block for me.

pip08456 24-04-2016 18:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by djmagnifique (Post 35834108)
I want to upgrade to Windows 10 but i'm on Win7 home at the moment so i'll lose control over how updates are done, that is a big stop block for me.

Not if you configure it. http://betanews.com/2016/02/22/contr...ws-10-updates/

djmagnifique 24-04-2016 19:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35834112)

Might have to have a look at that then when i'm off work next.

gulf4uk 24-04-2016 20:24

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BEFORE You go ahead make sure that your computer is up to the job.
My 3 year old laptop has Win 10 and Has settled down .
this one am on now Hates win10 so Ive gone back to Win7 but have upgraded Ram
from2 gb to 3gb and its superb i Think as much ram you can get is better all round

pip08456 24-04-2016 21:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gulf4uk (Post 35834132)
BEFORE You go ahead make sure that your computer is up to the job.
My 3 year old laptop has Win 10 and Has settled down .
this one am on now Hates win10 so thats's a different oneso Ive gone back to Win7 but have upgraded Ram
from2 gb to 3gb and its superb on Win 7 or Win 10?i Think as much ram you can get is better all round Win 32 will not reognise more than 3 Mb.


Hom3r 24-04-2016 22:13

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Speaking to people I know several have hated Win 10, one guy has a friend who owns a computer shop, and has spent ages reinstalling the owners previous OS.

So I'm now edging on NOT upgrading.

djmagnifique 24-04-2016 22:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gulf4uk (Post 35834132)
BEFORE You go ahead make sure that your computer is up to the job.
My 3 year old laptop has Win 10 and Has settled down .
this one am on now Hates win10 so Ive gone back to Win7 but have upgraded Ram
from2 gb to 3gb and its superb i Think as much ram you can get is better all round

I've recently upgraded to an i5 4590, 16Gb of ram and a 256gb Sandisk SSD, Do you think that will be good enough for win10?:D

pip08456 24-04-2016 22:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by djmagnifique (Post 35834169)
I've recently upgraded to an i5 4590, 16Gb of ram and a 256gb Sandisk SSD, Do you think that will be good enough for win10?:D

Should be, if you want it.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35834166)
Speaking to people I know several have hated Win 10, one guy has a friend who owns a computer shop, and has spent ages reinstalling the owners previous OS.

So I'm now edging on NOT upgrading.

Most haters (like me) don't like the spying that Microsoft installs as a matter of course and would like you to go through about 37 option pages to opt out (there is software available now to do it for you)

Also I don't like the Windows 10 GUI and the hoops you have to go through to change the simplest of settings that were easy in Windows 7.


Again there are free 3rd party solutions. Classic Shell is a good one.

SnoopZ 24-04-2016 23:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35834166)
Speaking to people I know several have hated Win 10, one guy has a friend who owns a computer shop, and has spent ages reinstalling the owners previous OS.

So I'm now edging on NOT upgrading.


I would say install 10 no reason to hate it.

Gavin78 27-04-2016 11:08

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I've had my laptop 4600 intel GFX card crash a few times under windows 10 seems to effect a few laptops

Dave42 27-04-2016 12:06

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35834667)
I've had my laptop 4600 intel GFX card crash a few times under windows 10 seems to effect a few laptops

try updating drivers

bubblegun 28-04-2016 03:15

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
I bought a Lenovo x220 i5-2520M (sandybridge) 8Gb, 250Gb HDD from ebay for £120 about 2 months ago.

There are lots of posts on Lenovo forums about issues with upgrading, mainly due to HD 3000 graphics not being supported on Windows 10.

I tried the free upgrade to see how it was but intended to go back if there were problems, not had any issues really.

I had the graphics drivers crash once but after a reboot it was fixed.

For this system I cannot see any major issues with the upgrade.
I'll change to an SSD for boot drive eventually but it seems to be usable much sooner than Windows 7 when starting from cold, even on a mechanical drive.

gulf4uk 28-04-2016 20:49

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
certainly does seem the newer the computer or major upgrade then no problem but
does mean another lot of redundent computers for those not working properly

Another problem not been fixed is SHOCKWAVE FLASH on Firefox hanging or
crashing not as bad on Win10 though .

SnoopZ 05-05-2016 16:50

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Just a heads up for anyone still wanting the free upgrade to Windows 10, Microsoft has confirmed the free upgrade off ends on July 29th 2016.

Gavin78 07-05-2016 22:25

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
I've installed windows 10 on a few computers. just wondering I have the ISO files from it will one copy work on all windows 10 pc's with keys now being locked to the bios?

Dave42 07-05-2016 22:35

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35836283)
I've installed windows 10 on a few computers. just wondering I have the ISO files from it will one copy work on all windows 10 pc's with keys now being locked to the bios?

once windows 10 is activated you don't need a key it will automatically activate if reinstall unless change motherboard

nashville 20-05-2016 17:04

Windows 10
 
Hate to bring Windows 10 again, but I installed it by mistake and I have not got a clue how to get into any of my files favourites or mail. Help. Or how do I uninstall the dam thing, Thank the Lord my IPad is ok

Merged with the correct thread.Next time don't post in the Articles and Information section of the forum

SnoopZ 20-05-2016 17:30

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nashville (Post 35838668)
Hate to bring Windows 10 again, but I installed it by mistake and I have not got a clue how to get into any of my files favourites or mail. Help. Or how do I uninstall the dam thing, Thank the Lord my IPad is ok

Merged with the correct thread.Next time don't post in the Articles and Information section of the forum

Try not to panic it is only a computer, you just have to get used to any changes, but you will get loads of Windows 10 haters in here soon!

Any of these links help?

http://scottiestech.info/2015/08/23/...ws-10-upgrade/

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/w...d-set-up-email

techguyone 20-05-2016 17:33

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
If it's installed as an update, you have 30 days to remove it via add/remove programs I believe.

nashville 20-05-2016 18:15

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Thanks for your help, I will make up my mind if I want to keep it tomorrow, I would have been lost if I never had my IPad to ask the board. Cheers

mart44 20-05-2016 18:44

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
I can understand the shock of installing W.10. It looks completely different but try not to roll back to the previous OS too quickly. I can only say to sit back, take look around the system and give it a while. Familiar parts are still there beneath the Desktop tiles and presentation. A couple of days experience can sometimes make all the difference. Windows Explorer (or File Explorer) should look familiar and the Control Panel is still there.

Right-click on the Windows icon in the bottom left-hand corner for quick access to familiar parts of the computer.

I have installed W.10 on two home Desktop computers and it runs well on both of them.

Ken W 20-05-2016 19:51

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mart44 (Post 35838690)
I can understand the shock of installing W.10. It looks completely different but try not to roll back to the previous OS too quickly. I can only say to sit back, take look around the system and give it a while. Familiar parts are still there beneath the Desktop tiles and presentation. A couple of days experience can sometimes make all the difference. Windows Explorer (or File Explorer) should look familiar and the Control Panel is still there.

Right-click on the Windows icon in the bottom left-hand corner for quick access to familiar parts of the computer.

I have installed W.10 on two home Desktop computers and it runs well on both of them.

I have Windows 10 running just fine on both my desktops and my laptop.

Look around at it and I am sure you will want to stick with Windows 10

nashville 21-05-2016 12:19

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Thanks Ken & Mart, I will have a look today, Still on my IPad at present, Will my I pad still stay W 7 as I don't want it to change by itself,

iadom 21-05-2016 12:55

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nashville (Post 35838802)
Still on my IPad at present, Will my I pad still stay W 7 as I don't want it to change by itself,

????? Surely your iPad should be on iOS 9.3.2 ATM.

SnoopZ 21-05-2016 14:54

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nashville (Post 35838802)
Thanks Ken & Mart, I will have a look today, Still on my IPad at present, Will my I pad still stay W 7 as I don't want it to change by itself,

??? Ipad with Windows 7? i think you must be confuzzled! ;)

nashville 21-05-2016 16:00

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Probable I am confused I just need my IPad to stay the same as it is, not familiar with all these IOS etc

solitaire 22-05-2016 14:27

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
I updated to Win10 from Win7 several months ago. All the programmes and games I had installed ran perfectly, but in the last few days I've had a problem with the game Bejeweled3 which just refuses to start. I've tried a re-install, running in compatibility mode etc. with no luck at all. Apart from that Win10 is running fine. Has anybody else had similar problems or any suggestions? Thanks.

SnoopZ 22-05-2016 15:30

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by solitaire (Post 35838997)
I updated to Win10 from Win7 several months ago. All the programmes and games I had installed ran perfectly, but in the last few days I've had a problem with the game Bejeweled3 which just refuses to start. I've tried a re-install, running in compatibility mode etc. with no luck at all. Apart from that Win10 is running fine. Has anybody else had similar problems or any suggestions? Thanks.

Can't really help but i see alot of people are having this problem from last year and possibly an AMD system problem if you have AMD?

pip08456 22-05-2016 19:14

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
AMD platform should not be a problem.

I have bittenthe bullet and put my laptop on w10 with a caveat.
Ive stopped all microsoft spying dead in it's tracks and installed classic shell. ATM, I'm quite happy but it is no quicker than W7 perhaps because I run an optimised system.

Hom3r 27-05-2016 19:13

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
I was off on Wednesday and the IT idiot put Windows 10 on my works PC.

Apart from layout changes all my short-cuts, wallpapers stayed the same.

Sirius 28-05-2016 13:49

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35839055)
AMD platform should not be a problem.

I have bittenthe bullet and put my laptop on w10 with a caveat.
Ive stopped all microsoft spying dead in it's tracks and installed classic shell. ATM, I'm quite happy but it is no quicker than W7 perhaps because I run an optimised system.

I would block the updates if i was you so that you can decided if there safe or not.

Ramrod 28-05-2016 14:08

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
My desktop background slideshow displays different pictures on my two screens now! I want the same picture on both screens at the same time! :mad:

nashville 28-05-2016 14:09

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Just been learning windows 10 all week, complicated but I am getting there.

SnoopZ 28-05-2016 17:13

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nashville (Post 35839997)
Just been learning windows 10 all week, complicated but I am getting there.

Not complicated atleast not for me, if you want the old control panel etc, then you can get to that by right clicking on the Start button in bottom left corner.

LSainsbury 28-05-2016 19:55

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35839897)
I was off on Wednesday and the IT idiot put Windows 10 on my works PC.

Why is he an idiot??

alanbjames 28-05-2016 21:00

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
I have an AMD system as main system and windows 10 flew through update no issues what so ever.

Stuart 28-05-2016 22:15

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35839897)
I was off on Wednesday and the IT idiot put Windows 10 on my works PC.

Apart from layout changes all my short-cuts, wallpapers stayed the same.

Without knowing the ins and outs of where you work, if they are anything like my Uni, it's possible they have, or are planning to, surrender any Windows 7 licences they have to upgrade to Windows 10 more cheaply (it's not a free upgrade for commercial customers).

nashville 29-05-2016 18:30

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
I have been managing W10 now a lot better. I am getting used to the layout and like some of them , Just have to sign in to a lot of my favourites again, But getting there, I noticed W10 has a DVD player, can I now play or copy a DVD,?

SnoopZ 29-05-2016 19:05

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nashville (Post 35840118)
I have been managing W10 now a lot better. I am getting used to the layout and like some of them , Just have to sign in to a lot of my favourites again, But getting there, I noticed W10 has a DVD player, can I now play or copy a DVD,?

The DVD player isnt free on Windows 10, what most people do is install another one which is very very good and far better than the Windows 10 one.

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.en_GB.html

nashville 29-05-2016 20:12

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Thanks for telling me about the DVD not being free, I would never have thought that, Is there anything else that they charge you for that I should know about?

Hom3r 29-05-2016 22:05

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
I'm currently creating a recovery disc for my Sony Vaio, I started it over 8 hours ago.

The Estimated time remaining has been on 30 minutes for over an hour.

At one point it said 1200 hours.

SnoopZ 29-05-2016 22:57

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nashville (Post 35840134)
Thanks for telling me about the DVD not being free, I would never have thought that, Is there anything else that they charge you for that I should know about?

I can't think of anything, the reason they charge for it is if they gave it free they would have to pay a licence for it, so this way customer pays I guess.

That player I showed you is far better anyway and very popular.

---------- Post added at 22:57 ---------- Previous post was at 22:55 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35840146)
I'm currently creating a recovery disc for my Sony Vaio, I started it over 8 hours ago.

The Estimated time remaining has been on 30 minutes for over an hour.

At one point it said 1200 hours.

All I did before I upgraded was copy the folders I wanted to keep onto an external, the whole upgrade only took like 20mins then and I never lost anything, but to be honest a clean install is the best way to go eventually.

Hom3r 30-05-2016 09:21

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 35840025)
Why is he an idiot??

IT is a hobby, and he has no IT qualifications, I have A+.

He accused me of hacking the computer to enable the USB ports which had been disabled. Which near got me a written warning.

---------- Post added at 09:21 ---------- Previous post was at 09:19 ----------

I can't get the dam Sony to use/find the data that sitting on a USB drive.

heero_yuy 30-05-2016 09:27

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35840157)
I can't think of anything, the reason they charge for it is if they gave it free they would have to pay a licence for it, so this way customer pays I guess.

That player I showed you is far better anyway and very popular.

There's also MPC that comes with the (free) K-Lite codec pack. Supports all the latest encoding and plays anything and refreshingly doesn't look like a Fisher Price toy.

Quote:

All I did before I upgraded was copy the folders I wanted to keep onto an external, the whole upgrade only took like 20mins then and I never lost anything, but to be honest a clean install is the best way to go eventually.
Agreed. I've always kept all my data in my own directory structure under /usr from DOS3.1 to W7. Backup is simple, just freshen that structure on the backup disks/sticks.

That way when M$ bugger about with things on the next OS my data is still always in the same place. After a clean install I just copy my structure back. :)

Hom3r 30-05-2016 11:05

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
It's looking like I might have to start from a clean machine.

Windows 8 is my system default.

Do I update to 8.1 then update to 10, or go from 8 to 10?

Can someone please put a link to enable me to download windows 10.

---------- Post added at 11:05 ---------- Previous post was at 10:34 ----------

Looking at Sony's instructions I need to update to 8.1 first.

Dave42 30-05-2016 11:11

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35840227)
It's looking like I might have to start from a clean machine.

Windows 8 is my system default.

Do I update to 8.1 then update to 10, or go from 8 to 10?

Can someone please put a link to enable me to download windows 10.

---------- Post added at 11:05 ---------- Previous post was at 10:34 ----------

Looking at Sony's instructions I need to update to 8.1 first.

official download here https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/soft...load/windows10

use media creator tool Microsoft allows use of windows 7 and 8 and 8.1 keys to install it now till the free upgrade offer ends on 29th of July

SnoopZ 30-05-2016 11:16

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35840227)
It's looking like I might have to start from a clean machine.

Windows 8 is my system default.

Do I update to 8.1 then update to 10, or go from 8 to 10?

Can someone please put a link to enable me to download windows 10.

---------- Post added at 11:05 ---------- Previous post was at 10:34 ----------

Looking at Sony's instructions I need to update to 8.1 first.

Yes you need to be on 8.1 before you get offered the free upgrade.

Hom3r 30-05-2016 13:31

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Well I'm back to day 1, decrappifying my laptop.

Sony Vaio Care is being a bugger as is windows update.

I guess 2 years of update are the reason.

What is the cut off date for the free upgrade?

Dave42 30-05-2016 13:53

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35840262)
Well I'm back to day 1, decrappifying my laptop.

Sony Vaio Care is being a bugger as is windows update.

I guess 2 years of update are the reason.

What is the cut off date for the free upgrade?

29th of July is end of free upgrade

nashville 30-05-2016 14:16

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
This might sound daft, but I click in my External drive and cannot find it on my PC also tried a USB flash drive to try out and do not know where to look for it to open. Just moved to
Windows 10 .

SnoopZ 30-05-2016 15:18

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nashville (Post 35840267)
This might sound daft, but I click in my External drive and cannot find it on my PC also tried a USB flash drive to try out and do not know where to look for it to open. Just moved to
Windows 10 .

Click the folder icon at the bottom of the screen then click 'This PC' on the left of the Window and that should give you a list of your drives that will look familiar to you.

As for your external try unplugging it and plugging it in again or into a different port and you may get a popup about it.

Hom3r 30-05-2016 16:24

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Mine refused to find my external hard drive.

Despite plugging it directly to the laptop.

So doing a fresh start, some how I'll find away to get the emails on their (Thunderbird).

Currently downloading 185 updates at 1.7GB, then I'll have ago at the Sony Vaio Care updates then download the software they say to run then windows 10

---------- Post added at 16:24 ---------- Previous post was at 16:17 ----------

Will outlook that comes with windows 10 work with VM, and if so will it handle multiple email accounts.

SnoopZ 30-05-2016 17:57

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35840284)
Mine refused to find my external hard drive.

Despite plugging it directly to the laptop.

So doing a fresh start, some how I'll find away to get the emails on their (Thunderbird).

Currently downloading 185 updates at 1.7GB, then I'll have ago at the Sony Vaio Care updates then download the software they say to run then windows 10

---------- Post added at 16:24 ---------- Previous post was at 16:17 ----------

Will outlook that comes with windows 10 work with VM, and if so will it handle multiple email accounts.

You mean the MAIL app that comes with windows 10? Yes it can handle more than 1 account.

http://www.howtogeek.com/232277/how-...in-windows-10/

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/w...d-set-up-email

nashville 30-05-2016 19:25

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35840278)
Click the folder icon at the bottom of the screen then click 'This PC' on the left of the Window and that should give you a list of your drives that will look familiar to you.

As for your external try unplugging it and plugging it in again or into a different port and you may get a popup about it.

Will try again Thanks

Hom3r 30-05-2016 20:30

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Well I'm 82% into installing 8.1

Then finis doing the Vaio updates, 10 will have to be next weekend now or the one after that.

SnoopZ 30-05-2016 23:01

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35840319)
Well I'm 82% into installing 8.1

Then finis doing the Vaio updates, 10 will have to be next weekend now or the one after that.

Good luck, is your laptop really slow and that is why it is taking an age?

Once 8.1 is installed just make sure you install all the updates and I think you then get offered Windows 10 and it will download. Why don't you let it do an unattended install while at work or over night?

Hom3r 01-06-2016 20:06

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
At work we had Windows 7, we only jumped to 10 because it's free, with according to my company is still too expensive :D

On Windows 7 I had a gadget that allowed me to put a Analog Clock on the screen which I had put the US Time Zones as I deal with companies based in the USA.

But Windows 10 doesn't have them, now is that a Microsoft/third party app that is IT Department friendly that I can get put on my system?

---------- Post added at 20:06 ---------- Previous post was at 20:03 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35840335)
Good luck, is your laptop really slow and that is why it is taking an age?

Once 8.1 is installed just make sure you install all the updates and I think you then get offered Windows 10 and it will download. Why don't you let it do an unattended install while at work or over night?

Not slow, its a i5 processor 1.8GHz 64-bit.

SnoopZ 01-06-2016 22:43

Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35840592)
At work we had Windows 7, we only jumped to 10 because it's free, with according to my company is still too expensive :D

On Windows 7 I had a gadget that allowed me to put a Analog Clock on the screen which I had put the US Time Zones as I deal with companies based in the USA.

But Windows 10 doesn't have them, now is that a Microsoft/third party app that is IT Department friendly that I can get put on my system?

---------- Post added at 20:06 ---------- Previous post was at 20:03 ----------



Not slow, its a i5 processor 1.8GHz 64-bit.

It shouldn't take long to install maybe 30mins.

Maybe Cortana can do the timezone thing? But this app looks to do what you wish.

http://www.timeanddate.com/windows/worldclock.html


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