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tassiekev 20-04-2015 20:19
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35772770)
So people wanting to pay for their product get blocked hmmm i wonder why piracy is so high.
I suppose that this action is because of HBO's exclusive content agreements in various countries. It will be interesting to see what happens after 2020, particularly if Netflix offers global subscriptions. Netflix now has 60m subscribers and growing quickly - HBO won't be able to ignore that.

theone2k10 20-04-2015 20:46
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Originally Posted by tassiekev (Post 35772779)
I suppose that this action is because of HBO's exclusive content agreements in various countries. It will be interesting to see what happens after 2020, particularly if Netflix offers global subscriptions. Netflix now has 60m subscribers and growing quickly - HBO won't be able to ignore that.
There will always be a work around ;)

vincerooney 21-04-2015 12:17
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35772770)
So people wanting to pay for their product get blocked hmmm i wonder why piracy is so high.
how will they know youre using a vpn?? surely thats the point in using one as youre hiding your location..?? or am i missing something here?

OLD BOY 21-04-2015 12:28
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35772869)
how will they know youre using a vpn?? surely thats the point in using one as youre hiding your location..?? or am i missing something here?
I've never used one, but I must confess I am surprised that they have taken so long to address this. Surely they must know who you are from your login details, and from this they know your location, don't they?

I'm sure that the solution can't be as complicated as some would imagine.

I think the days of logging into systems through different countries and the piracy that has been going on for years are numbered.

theone2k10 21-04-2015 12:52
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35772869)
how will they know youre using a vpn?? surely thats the point in using one as youre hiding your location..?? or am i missing something here?
I think it's smart dns users getting caught out as all smart dns does is spoofs your location, your ip is still visible.
A vpn hides both your location and your ip.
I use a vpn and smart dns combo myself only costs £4.70p/m and always get speeds of 21.9mbs from my vpn which is good as my actual speed is 37.6mbs anyway lol.
Using smart dns i get my full speed.
Regarding HBO from what i'm gathering they seem to be catching people out by their credit card registered address. I always recommend using entropay which is a virtual credit card that you can set up for various locations for example you want HULU+ you set your entro settings to usa this will give you a USA address linked to your virtual card.

passingbat 21-04-2015 12:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35772872)

I think the days of logging into systems through different countries and the piracy that has been going on for years are numbered.

There is a difference between piracy and VPN use; people using VPN's pay for the content, pirates don't.

Netflix have consistently squashed rumours on restrictions on VPN use

This is what the Netflix head man thinks on the subject:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...paurkZBnvvpSVl

vincerooney 21-04-2015 13:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35772879)
I think it's smart dns users getting caught out as all smart dns does is spoofs your location, your ip is still visible.
A vpn hides both your location and your ip.
I use a vpn and smart dns combo myself only costs £4.70p/m and always get speeds of 21.9mbs from my vpn which is good as my actual speed is 37.6mbs anyway lol.
Using smart dns i get my full speed.
Regarding HBO from what i'm gathering they seem to be catching people out by their credit card registered address. I always recommend using entropay which is a virtual credit card that you can set up for various locations for example you want HULU+ you set your entro settings to usa this will give you a USA address linked to your virtual card.
the master of these things speaks! i knew you'd be able to explain it to me! so it seems like you'll be safe!

OLD BOY 21-04-2015 13:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35772879)
I think it's smart dns users getting caught out as all smart dns does is spoofs your location, your ip is still visible.
A vpn hides both your location and your ip.
I use a vpn and smart dns combo myself only costs £4.70p/m and always get speeds of 21.9mbs from my vpn which is good as my actual speed is 37.6mbs anyway lol.
Using smart dns i get my full speed.
Regarding HBO from what i'm gathering they seem to be catching people out by their credit card registered address. I always recommend using entropay which is a virtual credit card that you can set up for various locations for example you want HULU+ you set your entro settings to usa this will give you a USA address linked to your virtual card.
Here's the thing, though. Netflix always remembers where I am in a series, so it can identify me. If they really wanted to do something about vpn use, is it really the case that they couldn't find a way to track you down?

passingbat 21-04-2015 13:40
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35772894)
If they really wanted to do something about vpn use, is it really the case that they couldn't find a way to track you down?

Of course they could track you down if they wanted to. The fact that they don't, speaks volumes.

theone2k10 21-04-2015 14:07
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35772894)
Here's the thing, though. Netflix always remembers where I am in a series, so it can identify me. If they really wanted to do something about vpn use, is it really the case that they couldn't find a way to track you down?
To clear things up vpns are perfectly legal and a lot of businesses and consumers use them to protect their systems and their company.
Companies like hbo, netflix will not block VPNs as they know consumers use them to protect their systems, if they started to block vpns there would be questions asked and no doubt hbo,netflix etc would gain bad publicity in the process.
Smart dns is a different matter altogether whilst they are perfectly legal there is a grey area surrounding the whole smart dns scene.
I had a chat with one of comcasts (xfinity) ceos and they said these exact words "it wouldn't be in our best interests to stop vpn users from accessing our service, we are working on a online only service that we will trial in the USA first with a vision of rolling it out globally and having all content available in all regions we launch in."

spiderplant 21-04-2015 18:38
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35772910)
vpns are perfectly legal
That's like saying kitchen knives are perfectly legal. It all depends what you do with them.

steveh 22-04-2015 10:38
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35772879)
I think it's smart dns users getting caught out as all smart dns does is spoofs your location, your ip is still visible.
It's the IP address that is used to determine the location, there isn't another way of spoofing the location.

For those confused on what these services do:

Each time you go to netflix.com it will use a database to convert your broadband IP address into a country so it knows what territory to serve you up. What a smart DNS does is act like a normal DNS server but replace the DNS entries for the streaming service you want to access with a proxy server located in the country that the streaming service serves.

So instead of a lookup for netflix.com resolving to (say) 1.2.3.4 as normal, it will now resolve to (say) 5.6.7.8, which will be the smart DNS company's proxy server. That proxy will then relay your HTTP requests to 1.2.3.4, making netflix.com think that the request originated at the proxy server and serving up the territory for the country where it thinks the proxy server is located, not where it originally came from.

Obviously it would be trivial for Netflix to cut out smart DNS services if they wanted to as they can easily spot the IP addresses of the proxy servers where there are way more subscribers than a normal broadband connection. However, that would impact on their sales and as long as the content owners don't put pressure on them they're happy just to ignore them.

OLD BOY 22-04-2015 12:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steveh (Post 35773106)
It's the IP address that is used to determine the location, there isn't another way of spoofing the location.

For those confused on what these services do:

Each time you go to netflix.com it will use a database to convert your broadband IP address into a country so it knows what territory to serve you up. What a smart DNS does is act like a normal DNS server but replace the DNS entries for the streaming service you want to access with a proxy server located in the country that the streaming service serves.

So instead of a lookup for netflix.com resolving to (say) 1.2.3.4 as normal, it will now resolve to (say) 5.6.7.8, which will be the smart DNS company's proxy server. That proxy will then relay your HTTP requests to 1.2.3.4, making netflix.com think that the request originated at the proxy server and serving up the territory for the country where it thinks the proxy server is located, not where it originally came from.

Obviously it would be trivial for Netflix to cut out smart DNS services if they wanted to as they can easily spot the IP addresses of the proxy servers where there are way more subscribers than a normal broadband connection. However, that would impact on their sales and as long as the content owners don't put pressure on them they're happy just to ignore them.
Can't they just require a login and find your location/status from their records?

theone2k10 22-04-2015 13:34
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35773135)
Can't they just require a login and find your location/status from their records?
ABC use location technology to determined where you are for their live stream of ABC, this is tricky to get around but a good vpn soon sorts it.

OLD BOY 22-04-2015 13:42
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Netflix must know who you are to verify you've paid. I do believe they could prevent access to different locations if they wanted to.

However, I do understand that it is being made clear in their revised terms and conditions that watching their material in other jurisdictions will be prohibited. I think a crackdown is imminent.

theone2k10 22-04-2015 13:57
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35773161)
Netflix must know who you are to verify you've paid. I do believe they could prevent access to different locations if they wanted to.

However, I do understand that it is being made clear in their revised terms and conditions that watching their material in other jurisdictions will be prohibited. I think a crackdown is imminent.
Not going to happen those terms have been in their t+cs for mnths, netflix themselves have clearly stated they will not block vpn users.

muppetman11 22-04-2015 14:05
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35772910)
To clear things up vpns are perfectly legal and a lot of businesses and consumers use them to protect their systems and their company.
Companies like hbo, netflix will not block VPNs as they know consumers use them to protect their systems, if they started to block vpns there would be questions asked and no doubt hbo,netflix etc would gain bad publicity in the process.
Smart dns is a different matter altogether whilst they are perfectly legal there is a grey area surrounding the whole smart dns scene.
I had a chat with one of comcasts (xfinity) ceos and they said these exact words "it wouldn't be in our best interests to stop vpn users from accessing our service, we are working on a online only service that we will trial in the USA first with a vision of rolling it out globally and having all content available in all regions we launch in."
I had a race with Usain Bolt and beat him by a clear second.:D

johnathome 22-04-2015 14:49
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35773167)
I had a race with Usain Bolt and beat him by a clear second.:D
Back of the shed!

theone2k10 22-04-2015 14:58
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35773167)
I had a race with Usain Bolt and beat him by a clear second.:D
A drink race?

passingbat 22-04-2015 15:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35773161)
Netflix must know who you are to verify you've paid. I do believe they could prevent access to different locations if they wanted to.

However, I do understand that it is being made clear in their revised terms and conditions that watching their material in other jurisdictions will be prohibited. I think a crackdown is imminent.
You seem to keep saying this, and, to me, it seems to have a hint of wishful thinking on your part.

We get that you disapprove of these things and don't use them and that's fair enough, but you've made your point.

muppetman11 22-04-2015 16:12
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Netflix wants to own its original shows

Link

Netflix confirms Daredevil season two

Link

zantarous 22-04-2015 19:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35773161)
Netflix must know who you are to verify you've paid. I do believe they could prevent access to different locations if they wanted to.

However, I do understand that it is being made clear in their revised terms and conditions that watching their material in other jurisdictions will be prohibited. I think a crackdown is imminent.
I could be traveling and in said country, Netflix don't have a draconian t&c that says you can only watch the service you pay while you are in your country of residence. This is a service that follows you around, also note they have no silly artificial limit on the number of devices you can install the software on, you are just limited by the number of streams you pay for.

OLD BOY 23-04-2015 12:37
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35773218)
You seem to keep saying this, and, to me, it seems to have a hint of wishful thinking on your part.

We get that you disapprove of these things and don't use them and that's fair enough, but you've made your point.
You misunderstand me, I'm just commenting on what may be happening.

I don't care one way or the other, frankly, I just find it difficult to understand why when there is a perfectly straight forward solution, streaming companies don't just apply it.

However, not my problem :walk:

passingbat 23-04-2015 12:54
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35773389)
I just find it difficult to understand why when there is a perfectly straight forward solution, streaming companies don't just apply it.
Presumably because they don't want to.

And it's up to the individual to interpret the broader meaning of that.

OLD BOY 23-04-2015 13:02
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35773395)
Presumably because they don't want to.

And it's up to the individual to interpret the broader meaning of that.
This is the position of HBO, for your information.

http://advanced-television.com/2015/...for-vpn-users/

HBO is threatening to cut off paying customers of its HBO Now streaming service if they are outside the US. The premium broadcaster has sent emails to people around the world it has detected are using software tools to access HBO Now.

HBO said it took the action because it only has the right to broadcast shows in the US and people living in the country. Email messages were sent to people in Canada, the UK, Germany and Australia, according to tech site Torrent Freak.

HBO Now allows viewers in the US to watch HBO’s programmes without the need to have a subscription to a television or cable service at a costs of $14.99 a month.

However, many people living in other countries have subscribed to HBO Now and used a variety of tools, including virtual private networks (VPNs), to get around the restrictions designed to stop people outside the US seeing popular shows such as Game of Thrones and Silicon Valley.

The messages from HBO warn them that they will be cut off if they do not contact HBO and satisfy them that they are eligible to watch the service. Those who do not contact HBO will be cut off without further notice, said the company.

theone2k10 23-04-2015 14:10
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35773396)
This is the position of HBO, for your information.

http://advanced-television.com/2015/...for-vpn-users/

HBO is threatening to cut off paying customers of its HBO Now streaming service if they are outside the US. The premium broadcaster has sent emails to people around the world it has detected are using software tools to access HBO Now.

HBO said it took the action because it only has the right to broadcast shows in the US and people living in the country. Email messages were sent to people in Canada, the UK, Germany and Australia, according to tech site Torrent Freak.

HBO Now allows viewers in the US to watch HBO’s programmes without the need to have a subscription to a television or cable service at a costs of $14.99 a month.

However, many people living in other countries have subscribed to HBO Now and used a variety of tools, including virtual private networks (VPNs), to get around the restrictions designed to stop people outside the US seeing popular shows such as Game of Thrones and Silicon Valley.

The messages from HBO warn them that they will be cut off if they do not contact HBO and satisfy them that they are eligible to watch the service. Those who do not contact HBO will be cut off without further notice, said the company.
Premier league pass have been doing this all year guess what? People find a way around it. If people want the content they will get it one way or another imo HBO would be better just accepting that people will use their service outside the US and pay the $14.99 if hbo play silly buggers people will just use torrents guess who loses out?

passingbat 23-04-2015 14:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35773396)
This is the position of HBO, for your information.

http://advanced-television.com/2015/...for-vpn-users/

HBO is threatening to cut off paying customers of its HBO Now streaming service if they are outside the US. The premium broadcaster has sent emails to people around the world it has detected are using software tools to access HBO Now.

HBO said it took the action because it only has the right to broadcast shows in the US and people living in the country. Email messages were sent to people in Canada, the UK, Germany and Australia, according to tech site Torrent Freak.

HBO Now allows viewers in the US to watch HBO’s programmes without the need to have a subscription to a television or cable service at a costs of $14.99 a month.

However, many people living in other countries have subscribed to HBO Now and used a variety of tools, including virtual private networks (VPNs), to get around the restrictions designed to stop people outside the US seeing popular shows such as Game of Thrones and Silicon Valley.

The messages from HBO warn them that they will be cut off if they do not contact HBO and satisfy them that they are eligible to watch the service. Those who do not contact HBO will be cut off without further notice, said the company.
But that is not the position of Netflix. Were you constraining the discussion to HBO only? Previously you have been talking about Netflix.

tassiekev 24-04-2015 07:25
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X-Files streaming in HD on Netflix - well, half the first series anyway:

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/04/net...source=mainrss

OLD BOY 24-04-2015 08:15
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35773441)
But that is not the position of Netflix. Were you constraining the discussion to HBO only? Previously you have been talking about Netflix.
No, PB, I was clearly just referring to HBO here, but of course the more general debate is about why streaming companies don't exercise control.

As I said, I'm not concerned as it doesn't affect me, I'm just commenting generally. If the streaming company can verify that you've paid your subscription, clearly they know where you live!

passingbat 24-04-2015 09:34
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35773558)
No, PB, I was clearly just referring to HBO here,

So why were you talking about Netflix only a few posts ago?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post1615.html

OLD BOY 24-04-2015 13:45
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35773571)
So why were you talking about Netflix only a few posts ago?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post1615.html
This thread is not restricted to discussion about Netflix. HBO is also a streaming service. Both currently tolerate vpn access. HBO has decided to do something about it. I am sure Netflix will, in fact, follow their lead.

Having told you that I thought a crackdown by Netflix was imminent, I provided you with a report that said HBO were doing just that.

I'm not sure exactly the purpose of your post, passingbat, but if I have not grasped the point you were trying to make, I apologise.

passingbat 24-04-2015 13:56
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35773617)

Having told you that I thought a crackdown by Netflix was imminent, I provided you with a report that said HBO were doing just that.

.
But it is clearly obvious that HBO and Netflix have different views on VPNs. So why use HBO's action to illustrate what you think Netflix will do?

OLD BOY 24-04-2015 14:44
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35773621)
But it is clearly obvious that HBO and Netflix have different views on VPNs. So why use HBO's action to illustrate what you think Netflix will do?
It is a loose correlation, but there is a link. Netflix have drafted revised terms and conditions preventing such access.

As I said, it's just a matter of time. There are rights issues here and the only amazing thing about all of this is that it is taking so long for those rights to be enforced.

However, in the medium term, perhaps we can look forward to world wide rights being the new norm, which will prevent all of this nonsense.

Anypermitedroute 24-04-2015 15:08
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I can appreciate why you think its nonsense but there are some (possibly good) reason to have delay in releases to world wide, for example rights of what can/cannot be shown (e.g. amount of violence) is different from country to country

theone2k10 24-04-2015 15:20
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35773631)
It is a loose correlation, but there is a link. Netflix have drafted revised terms and conditions preventing such access.

As I said, it's just a matter of time. There are rights issues here and the only amazing thing about all of this is that it is taking so long for those rights to be enforced.

However, in the medium term, perhaps we can look forward to world wide rights being the new norm, which will prevent all of this nonsense.
World wide rights or not i will still use a vpn to protect my data and my pc.
VPNs are used for more than just gaining content from other regions, a lot of businesses use them as a extra layer of security.

johnathome 25-04-2015 13:50
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My free 3 month chromecast NowTV offer ends on 16th May so i thought i'd buy a pass from Game as it works out at £5 month.

You have to go through about 3 cancellation screens to finally cancel but on the last one i was offered 4 months @ £3.49 a month, i had to take it :)

I hadn't heard of a retention offer that low before?

Mal 07-05-2015 08:27
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Does the Amazon Fire Stick allow you to change the dns settings, like you can with the Fire TV?

MutleyF 07-05-2015 08:47
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I am not at home today, but I am sure it does not not. However, as it uses wi-fi, I would think that so long as you can "feed" the stick the adjusted signal, then it would work.

Happy to stand corrected

theone2k10 07-05-2015 10:36
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Originally Posted by Mal (Post 35776016)
Does the Amazon Fire Stick allow you to change the dns settings, like you can with the Fire TV?
I believe it does yes.

MutleyF 07-05-2015 11:37
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Going to have to look then tonight now when I get home !

Mal 07-05-2015 12:19
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When I did a Google search for it, most of the results were for the TV, but some people were saying no and some were saying yes. The yes people were saying that you had to forget your current network and then you get the advanced options to set them.

I wasn't too sure if they were confusing the two; I'm confused, so that's why I thought that I would ask here.

I've got the TV, but I want one for upstairs and I don't want to get the stick and find that it doesn't allow me to change the dns.

Thanks for your help :)

passingbat 07-05-2015 15:23
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Originally Posted by Mal (Post 35776086)
The yes people were saying that you had to forget your current network and then you get the advanced options to set them.
This could be where they are getting that from

http://www.eyeondemand.com/2014/12/3...for-smart-dns/


Quote:
Step 2
If you have already connected to your home Network in the past, you can’t unfortunately just modify it. You must forget the Network and start from scratch. Do this by clicking the “Forget Network” option via the hamburger (menu) button
This is for the box rather than the stick, but I don't see why it shouldn't work on wifi for the stick if it works for wifi on the box (my box is wired)

muppetman11 07-05-2015 19:52
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Sense 8 trailer released from Netflix with all episodes available from 5th June.

zantarous 07-05-2015 21:01
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I have a three month free pass for Now TV before I redeem it anyone got any thing to say about the service? I don't have a box for it I will either use Chromecast/Nexus Player or Xbox 360.

Do the live channels broadcast in HD and 5.1? The same for boxsets.

What is the buffering like, I have Netflix and Amazon Instant Streaming and receive excellent quality on these. Not so interested in the Movies but would also like to know about the quality and 5.1.

I am looking to see if this is a viable alternative to Tivo, both of which I havn't powered on in months now.

muppetman11 07-05-2015 21:08
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Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35776232)
I have a three month free pass for Now TV before I redeem it anyone got any thing to say about the service? I don't have a box for it I will either use Chromecast/Nexus Player or Xbox 360.

Do the live channels broadcast in HD and 5.1? The same for boxsets.

What is the buffering like, I have Netflix and Amazon Instant Streaming and receive excellent quality on these. Not so interested in the Movies but would also like to know about the quality and 5.1.

I am looking to see if this is a viable alternative to Tivo, both of which I havn't powered on in months now.
Live channels are only SD , On Demand content is 720p. Its nowhere near the quality of Netflix and doesn't have 5.1 audio that said its perfectly acceptable quality wise and in my experience doesn't suffer from buffering of late.

I've used Chromecast and never had an issue. Certainly nothing lost in trying it if you have a free 3 month pass.

passingbat 07-05-2015 21:41
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Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35776232)

What is the buffering like.
No issues here, using Now TV box or wired LG bluray player.

Mad Max 07-05-2015 22:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35776220)
Sense 8 trailer released from Netflix with all episodes available from 5th June.


Looks a load of pish to me mate, but, others may like it.....:D

zantarous 07-05-2015 22:59
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Ok decided to redeem the voucher to have a look, and works quite well with my Chromecast, although i do see that they treat Chromecast as a device so have to be careful with the number of devices I have added to my account.

The SD stream for live TV looks better the SD on my Tivo.

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35776292)
Looks a load of pish to me mate, but, others may like it.....:D
The great J Michael Straczynski is involved in this, it should be quality and the trailer looks pretty good.

tassiekev 11-05-2015 21:34
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Netflix CEO says linear TV 'declining year by year':

http://www.scientificamerican.com/po...+Technology%29

Hugh 11-05-2015 21:56
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In other news, Pope speaks in favour of Catholicism....;)

tassiekev 11-05-2015 22:08
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35777313)
In other news, Pope speaks in favour of Catholicism....;)
Good point. Which used to be the largest religion and now......isn't?

muppetman11 13-05-2015 19:09
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Could the former Top Gear trio land on Netflix ? House of Cars anyone :D

Link

johnathome 13-05-2015 22:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35777702)
Could the former Top Gear trio land on Netflix ? House of Cars anyone :D

Link
I thought they were in talks with ITV? Or are they drumming up interest to play one off against the other?

harry_hitch 13-05-2015 23:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35777727)
I thought they were in talks with ITV? Or are they drumming up interest to play one off against the other?
The report says Netflix or ITV are the most likely places they will end up. They will probably listen to both companies though. This would be a real coup for Netflix in my eyes - imagine the budget they could have from Netflix.

muppetman11 15-05-2015 16:12
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Sky Atlantic sets date for UK premiere of HBO’s True Detective and The Brink

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As part of the channel’s strategy to bring the most compelling stories exclusively to Sky and NOW TV customers, Sky Atlantic today announce plans to premiere True Detective and The Brink on Monday 22 June, less than 24hrs after their US debut on HBO. Additionally, True Detective will be simulcast alongside the US transmission at 2am.
Link

Mad Max 16-05-2015 16:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35778085)
Sky Atlantic sets date for UK premiere of HBO’s True Detective and The Brink



Link

More good stuff on Atlantic, think I will seriously be considering quitting VM soon....

theone2k10 16-05-2015 23:10
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Plusnet have now launched their tv service notable is no Sky channels at all except for sky store also it'll cost £50 upfront activation fee https://www.plus.net/tv/ it doesn't say cost on the site, they rang me offering it to me i told them no chance for £50 upfront when say in 11 months time i can switch if i choose to sky or talktalk who both give free boxes, they said they'll forward my feedback lol.

harry_hitch 17-05-2015 10:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35778085)
Sky Atlantic sets date for UK premiere of HBO’s True Detective and The Brink



Link
Cheers MM, desperately looking forward to the new series of True Detective. I do not mind admitting this is the only show on SA I have really enjoyed.

tassiekev 17-05-2015 10:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35778321)
Cheers MM, desperately looking forward to the new series of True Detective. I do not mind admitting this is the only show on SA I have really enjoyed.
Maybe you should have a look at 'The Jinx' - a 6 hour documentary on a real life murder case (still ongoing). Not as sensational as True Detective but very creepy in its own way. The guy involved is enormously wealthy and about as cold-blooded as they come. Enjoy (or not :))

warrenb 19-05-2015 11:34
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To be honest, if NOWTV had SyFy and Watch my virgin TV would be history.

Stuart 19-05-2015 11:39
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35777737)
The report says Netflix or ITV are the most likely places they will end up. They will probably listen to both companies though. This would be a real coup for Netflix in my eyes - imagine the budget they could have from Netflix.
I don't think Clarkson, Hammond and May would be a good fit for ITV. They may be too offensive for ITV 1 (which does like to play it safe) and how would it look to advertisers if they said something really offensive about their cars, which, lets face it, is likely if the car is in any way bad? This means they would not work well on any ITV channel, or any channel that relies on advertising for it's income.

johnathome 19-05-2015 12:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by warrenb (Post 35778766)
To be honest, if NOWTV had SyFy and Watch my virgin TV would be history.
NowTV would be better if you could pick, say, 6 channels from a selection of 18 or something.

The only thing i watched on Watch was The Strain so i'm going to have to find other ways to see the 2nd series.

muppetman11 20-05-2015 09:55
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Not sure if its all been added yet but 'Entourage' HBO Season 1-8 is available on Now TV which is worth a look for anyone who's not seen it before.

tassiekev 20-05-2015 16:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by warrenb (Post 35778766)
To be honest, if NOWTV had SyFy and Watch my virgin TV would be history.
BT has both of those channels in their Entertainment Plus pack, not 100% certain but think they may also be available in HD for £3pm as part of the 25 premium channels pack.

theone2k10 20-05-2015 16:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tassiekev (Post 35779017)
BT has both of those channels in their Entertainment Plus pack, not 100% certain but think they may also be available in HD for £3pm as part of the 25 premium channels pack.
Plusnet also have syfy not sure about watch will update when my box arrives.

Chad 21-05-2015 19:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35779037)
Plusnet also have syfy not sure about watch will update when my box arrives.
Here's the list of channels:

https://www.plus.net/tv/

Kabaal 21-05-2015 20:13
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David Duchovny's new series Aquarius will have the full season up for streaming on Hulu and the NBC site the night after the premier airs on the network channel, 28th May for the first episode on TV and 29th May for all 13 episodes going online.

theone2k10 21-05-2015 21:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35779210)
Here's the list of channels:

https://www.plus.net/tv/
Thanks chad bud :)

tassiekev 24-05-2015 20:19
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HBO Now Price Cut?

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/05/hbo...source=mainrss

tassiekev 25-05-2015 16:32
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Netflix into making own documentaries:

http://www.wired.com/2015/05/netflix...ign=newsletter

theone2k10 28-05-2015 11:46
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Well my plusnet tv box arrived today there was a delay as parcelforce allegedly lost the first box, i think more like plusnet forgot to send it out lol.
Channels included in basic pack are comedy central, syfy, tlc, discovery, id, mtv, animal planet, universal,E!, FOX, History, ci, sony entertainment, eurosport, eurosport2. £5p/m for that pack
kids pack has disney, disney junior,disneyxd, nikelodeon,nick jr, nicktoons, boomerang, cartoon network, cartoonito £3p/m for that pack.
Hd channels are comedy central hd, syfyhd, foxhd, historyhd, cihd, mtvhd, tlchd, discoveryhd, animal planethd, eurosporthd, eurosport2hd £3p/m extra for hd.

Overall not a bad selection for the cost i have basic plus hd.

johnathome 28-05-2015 12:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35780259)
Well my plusnet tv box arrived today there was a delay as parcelforce allegedly lost the first box, i think more like plusnet forgot to send it out lol.
Channels included in basic pack are comedy central, syfy, tlc, discovery, id, mtv, animal planet, universal,E!, FOX, History, ci, sony entertainment, eurosport, eurosport2. £5p/m for that pack
kids pack has disney, disney junior,disneyxd, nikelodeon,nick jr, nicktoons, boomerang, cartoon network, cartoonito £3p/m for that pack.
Hd channels are comedy central hd, syfyhd, foxhd, historyhd, cihd, mtvhd, tlchd, discoveryhd, animal planethd, eurosporthd, eurosport2hd £3p/m extra for hd.

Overall not a bad selection for the cost i have basic plus hd.
Well that isn't a bad selection for £5pm, how much is the cost overall with LL and BB?

OLD BOY 28-05-2015 12:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35780259)
Well my plusnet tv box arrived today there was a delay as parcelforce allegedly lost the first box, i think more like plusnet forgot to send it out lol.
Channels included in basic pack are comedy central, syfy, tlc, discovery, id, mtv, animal planet, universal,E!, FOX, History, ci, sony entertainment, eurosport, eurosport2. £5p/m for that pack
kids pack has disney, disney junior,disneyxd, nikelodeon,nick jr, nicktoons, boomerang, cartoon network, cartoonito £3p/m for that pack.
Hd channels are comedy central hd, syfyhd, foxhd, historyhd, cihd, mtvhd, tlchd, discoveryhd, animal planethd, eurosporthd, eurosport2hd £3p/m extra for hd.

Overall not a bad selection for the cost i have basic plus hd.
Am I right in saying that the only Sky channel available on any of the plusnet packs is Pick TV?

theone2k10 28-05-2015 12:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35780263)
Well that isn't a bad selection for £5pm, how much is the cost overall with LL and BB?
Alltogether it is £38.94p/m that's with tv plus youview+ box, evening and weekend calls and upto 38mbs down and upto 20mbs up broadband unlimited.
I average at 36.5mbs down and 18.2mbs up even at peak times.
There is a £50 charge for youview+ box but they wave that if you agree to 24 month contract, the none recording youview box is free.
Both have £7.99 delivery charge which isn't bad at all.

johnathome 28-05-2015 12:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35780264)
Am I right in saying that the only Sky channel available on any of the plusnet packs is Pick TV?
Isn't Fox a Sky Channel?

muppetman11 28-05-2015 13:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35780275)
Isn't Fox a Sky Channel?
No its a 21st Century Fox one.

theone2k10 28-05-2015 13:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35780264)
Am I right in saying that the only Sky channel available on any of the plusnet packs is Pick TV?
And skynews but plusnet is owned by bt so unlikely we'll get any sky channels until sky and bt agree something.
Nowtv,netflix,uktv and usual catch up services are some of the apps available as standard too.

OLD BOY 28-05-2015 13:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35780275)
Isn't Fox a Sky Channel?
I meant Sky branded channels, but I did confuse it by including Pick TV (but in my defence, it did once have the brand of Sky 3, of course!).

---------- Post added at 13:26 ---------- Previous post was at 13:25 ----------

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35780281)
And skynews but plusnet is owned by bt so unlikely we'll get any sky channels until sky and bt agree something.
Nowtv,netflix,uktv and usual catch up services are some of the apps available as standard too.
Yes, that's good, but pity they don't have Amazon Instant. It doesn't look as if Amazon are being too proactive in getting their selection on connected set top boxes.

theone2k10 28-05-2015 13:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35780282)
I meant Sky branded channels, but I did confuse it by including Pick TV (but in my defence, it did once have the brand of Sky 3, of course!).

---------- Post added at 13:26 ---------- Previous post was at 13:25 ----------

 Yes, that's good, but pity they don't have Amazon Instant. It doesn't look as if Amazon are being too proactive in getting their selection on connected set top boxes.
Amazon instant video is meh imho but hopefully for those that use it Amazon will start to develop their app for other platforms such as tivo, youview, roku(uk) etc.
Amazon instant video is on my smart tv just noticed lol.

theone2k10 28-05-2015 18:04
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Lenova have entered the media streaming market with their device for $49 around £29 give or take http://www.aftvnews.com/lenovo-enter...9-lenovo-cast/

muppetman11 29-05-2015 23:27
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Now TV Entertainment Pass £1 for first month.

Link

muppetman11 30-05-2015 09:38
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Roku updates software

Link

OLD BOY 01-06-2015 15:54
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Just seen this, which relates to the US. Not good news for those of us who were looking forward to Amazon Instant launching on our TIVOs here in the UK.

Well, I am looking to get an LG TV in a couple of months' time, and this will provide me with both Netflix and Amazon Instant. Problem solved for me.

However, it is a huge disappointment. Virgin Media needs to get as many streaming services onto its system as possible to give viewers maximum choice on one box. If they did that, I think it would be a huge draw for subscribers.

Without this, I am concerned that Virgin Media's TV service will no longer be a serious competitor to Sky in the years to come. This could have been cable's USP.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...deId=201733000

Extract

Amazon Instant Video will no longer be available on TiVo Series 2, Series 3, and selected TiVo Premiere (Series 4) models after April 15, 2015. As we continually improve our service, it occasionally means we can no longer support applications on certain devices.

The following device models are affected by this change:

TiVo Series 2
TiVo HD (Series 3)
TiVo HD XL (Series 3)
TiVo 160 (Series 3)
TiVo 320 (Series 3)
TiVo Premiere (Series 4) models issued by a cable or satellite provider

zantarous 01-06-2015 19:00
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Just buy a separate media steaming deice like the Fire TV or Android TV and job down all the streaming services you want. No point in waiting for Virgin.

batchain 01-06-2015 19:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35780894)
Just seen this, which relates to the US. Not good news for those of us who were looking forward to Amazon Instant launching on our TIVOs here in the UK.

Well, I am looking to get an LG TV in a couple of months' time, and this will provide me with both Netflix and Amazon Instant. Problem solved for me.

However, it is a huge disappointment. Virgin Media needs to get as many streaming services onto its system as possible to give viewers maximum choice on one box. If they did that, I think it would be a huge draw for subscribers.

Without this, I am concerned that Virgin Media's TV service will no longer be a serious competitor to Sky in the years to come. This could have been cable's USP.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...deId=201733000

Extract

Amazon Instant Video will no longer be available on TiVo Series 2, Series 3, and selected TiVo Premiere (Series 4) models after April 15, 2015. As we continually improve our service, it occasionally means we can no longer support applications on certain devices.

The following device models are affected by this change:

TiVo Series 2
TiVo HD (Series 3)
TiVo HD XL (Series 3)
TiVo 160 (Series 3)
TiVo 320 (Series 3)
TiVo Premiere (Series 4) models issued by a cable or satellite provider
It helps if you know what you're talking about before quoting links. This is the old Amazon download service. TiVo Roamio and Tivo Mini users can still stream movies and TV shows from Amazon Instant Video, and the option will be available on Tivo Premiere boxes in 2015.

OLD BOY 01-06-2015 20:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by batchain (Post 35780948)
It helps if you know what you're talking about before quoting links. This is the old Amazon download service. TiVo Roamio and Tivo Mini users can still stream movies and TV shows from Amazon Instant Video, and the option will be available on Tivo Premiere boxes in 2015.
I thought the old service was Amazon Prime?

theone2k10 01-06-2015 20:20
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Get nowtv entertainment pass for £3.49p/m for 4 months, sign up for the £1 trial then go to cancel select reason it costs too much and they should offer you £3.40p/m for 4 months.
I did it today.

muppetman11 01-06-2015 20:44
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Netflix is testing ads surrounding its shows

Link

harry_hitch 01-06-2015 21:21
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35780961)
Netflix is testing ads surrounding its shows

Link
Thanks for the link MM. I hope this potential idea falls flat on its face - if it ever comes to fruition. I refuse to be held to ransom if I don't want to watch ads. It's great they may offer a cheaper, ad supported service for those who can't afford it currently, but at no point did I see where they will allow loyal customers to keep the service as it is for them currently.

I will simply cancel it if they want me to pay them more simply not to watch adverts, whether they are for their own shows or not.

Also, if Netflix start, I am pretty others will follow suit very quickly.

---------- Post added at 21:21 ---------- Previous post was at 21:19 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35780953)
I thought the old service was Amazon Prime?
Not sure what service is old or current, all I know is that the app on my Samsung TV is called Amazon Instant Video.

MalteseFalcon 02-06-2015 07:45
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If it is a case of a simple 10 second ad between every other show then I won't have a problem with it.

Mal 02-06-2015 09:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35780961)
Netflix is testing ads surrounding its shows

Link
The link has now been updated.

Quote:
Update: Don't panic just yet! Netflix tells TechCrunch that there are currently "no plans" to run third-party ads. Instead, this would be more to get you checking out other exclusive shows (say, Bloodlines) once you're looking for something new to watch. CEO Reed Hastings posted on Facebook that there's "No advertising coming onto Netflix. Period."

johnathome 02-06-2015 15:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35780990)
If it is a case of a simple 10 second ad between every other show then I won't have a problem with it.
From the link i read earlier it'll only be adverts for their own shows, much like the BBC do.

So, for example, if you watch daredevil you'll see a trailer for House Of Cards.

There is to be no 3rd party adverts.

Anypermitedroute 02-06-2015 15:41
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For the moment......:)

MutleyF 02-06-2015 16:07
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35780957)
Get nowtv entertainment pass for £3.49p/m for 4 months, sign up for the £1 trial then go to cancel select reason it costs too much and they should offer you £3.40p/m for 4 months.
I did it today.
typical - I try and they tell me they will change the full £6.99 a month rather than the trial of £1

Must be because I have used an entertainment pass before

theone2k10 02-06-2015 16:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MutleyF (Post 35781087)
typical - I try and they tell me they will change the full £6.99 a month rather than the trial of £1

Must be because I have used an entertainment pass before
Create a new account use a different card and email if you can.

toady 03-06-2015 14:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35780990)
If it is a case of a simple 10 second ad between every other show then I won't have a problem with it.
For the amount I pay, I expect the whole experience to be ad free

passingbat 03-06-2015 15:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by batchain (Post 35780948)
It helps if you know what you're talking about before quoting links..

Exactly. I've explained the Amazon Prime situation several times.

US Premier boxes started getting Amazon Prime access about a month or so ago. It required a software update.

Prior to that, they could only download to Tivo Amazon instant titles that they had purchased.

tassiekev 03-06-2015 18:45
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Showtime doing an HBO...

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/06/sho...source=mainrss

zantarous 03-06-2015 19:13
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In about five years there will be so many services we will all be think, damn back in the day I paid £30 and got pretty much everything, now I have to pay almost double that to get anywhere near that.

I guess no more Showtime content on netflix then?

theone2k10 03-06-2015 19:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35781262)
In about five years there will be so many services we will all be think, damn back in the day I paid £30 and got pretty much everything, now I have to pay almost double that to get anywhere near that.

I guess no more Showtime content on netflix then?
It will be us only and for now only apple devices, netflix and showtimes global agreement won't be affected (yet)


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