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denphone 18-08-2013 18:42

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Gustavo would have been perfect for Arsenal but from what l have read Wolfsburg are paying him more.

thenry 18-08-2013 18:52

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Den what the clubs incompetence have gotten away with over the years is criminal. they didnt even bid for Higuain when RM were asking 25m cash early on. thats a bloody bargain in todays market. I want Arsene to succeed but i have zero confidence in him addressing the issues at Arsenal. he's obsessed with his own vision which fails to address the required numbers of players needed to push on. it isn't a money issue, the money is there, the infrastructure is strong at Arsenal and is only going to get better. i really wish Dein was brought back and Usmanov was invited onto the board but Stan wont allow it, the old dinosaurs wont like it as well. all the bad words they were spreading about everyone else is coming back to haunt them.

Arsenal FC will be here long after these incompetent officials fall.

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Barca 6 up at HT vs Levante. Fabregas is running riot.

adzii_nufc 18-08-2013 19:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35612258)
he is thinking, just not the right way.

we need 5-6 players..

GK, there are many, Germany has been pointed out as having decent quality
CB, Williams/Sakho/Ginter
FB/DM/CM cover Flamini
DM Lars Bender
AM i cant name one really, I wanted Bernard but there are many still available, spoken of
CF Rooney

put that into our current mix and we've got a side that will push for the title.


GK: Tim Krul
CB: Mbiwa
FB/DM/CM: Tiote
DM/CM: Cabaye
AM: Hatem Ben Arfa
CF: Cisse


Hull and Crystal Palace in crisis! both lost on the first day of the season. We'll be in a major crisis tomorrow night too! :D
Heh, sorry, was just flicking through the last 7 pages or so.

iadom 18-08-2013 19:09

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Barca 6-0 up at half time, Fabregas heavily involved.

colin25 18-08-2013 19:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35612272)
GK: Tim Krul
CB: Mbiwa
FB/DM/CM: Tiote
DM/CM: Cabaye
AM: Hatem Ben Arfa
CF: Cisse


Hull and Crystal Palace in crisis! both lost on the first day of the season. We'll be in a major crisis tomorrow night too! :D
Heh, sorry, was just flicking through the last 7 pages or so.

Have faith, i haven't ruled out a man city crisis :D

thenry 18-08-2013 19:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35612272)
GK: Tim Krul
CB: Mbiwa
FB/DM/CM: Tiote
DM/CM: Cabaye
AM: Hatem Ben Arfa
CF: Cisse


Hull and Crystal Palace in crisis! both lost on the first day of the season. We'll be in a major crisis tomorrow night too! :D
Heh, sorry, was just flicking through the last 7 pages or so.

Can you image the phone call with Mike.

AW: I'll give you 8m for Cabaye.
Mike: what!! Monaco have been sniffing around
AW: but Monaco are ruining the game
Mike: what are you talking about?
AW: FFP
Mike: Wonga
AW: Goodbye

Damien 18-08-2013 19:14

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I think we need a Defender, a DM and a striker.

thenry 18-08-2013 19:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35612282)
I think we need a Defender, a DM and a striker.

for what? 4th/3rd again?

Damien 18-08-2013 19:44

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No. I think differently from you. I think that is what is needed. Maybe a winger but a DM and Striker should be priority followed by defender and winger.

thenry 18-08-2013 19:48

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any suggestions of names?

MalteseFalcon 18-08-2013 19:52

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The one biggest improvement Wenger needs to make is to find a decent goalkeeper. The next Seaman. Don't know what other Arsenal fans think, but for me Arsenal have been struggling goalie wise since Lehman left.

thenry 18-08-2013 19:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35612292)
The one biggest improvement Wenger needs to make is to find a decent goalkeeper. The next Seaman. Don't know what other Arsenal fans think, but for me Arsenal have been struggling goalie wise since Lehman left.

I agree :tu:

Wenger will though say keep the faith and Szczesny will continue to make mistakes because he has no competition. their resting on their laurels.

adzii_nufc 18-08-2013 20:02

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I loved Jens, match of the day gold on a weekly basis!

denphone 18-08-2013 20:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35612294)
I agree :tu:

Wenger will though say keep the faith and Szczesny will continue to make mistakes because he has no competition. their resting on their laurels.

Why did they not go for Reina as he is a classy experienced goalkeeper.

MalteseFalcon 18-08-2013 20:09

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If I'd been Wenger, I would have gone for Reina or Schwarzer. Both good goalies, both would be 100000% better than the current goalies at Arsenal. Personally, I'd love to see them snap up Cech with a cheeky bid on deadline day. :)

I know, optimistic to the extreme but optimism seems to be all Arsenal fans have left at the moment.

thenry 18-08-2013 20:14

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because Wenger has 'wiser' ideas. he ignores logic. I'm not all that clued up on keepers but have heard a lot of hype surrounding a fair few in Germany https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/08/8.gif

Julian 18-08-2013 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35612085)
it looks like this is happening now

http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calc...g-southampton/

Yep widely reported now.

I just hope he behaves himself, not bad value at £15m.

Oh and nice 3 points yesterday :)

thenry 18-08-2013 20:54

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pretty much confirmed now...

Quote:

Dejan Lovren ‏@DejanLovren05
Welcome Osvaldo to @SouthamptonFC very good signing for us ! #SaintsFC COYR
7:47 PM - 18 Aug 13
https://twitter.com/DejanLovren05/st...68755458207744

Damien 18-08-2013 21:05

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Hard to think of names with so many having gone but: Michu up front. Begovic in goal. No idea about defensive midfielders. Ashley Williams might be a good call at center back but doubt we'll be able to raid Swansea for two of their players. At this stage of the season one would be difficult.

thenry 18-08-2013 21:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35612314)
Hard to think of names with so many having gone but: Michu up front. Begovic in goal. No idea about defensive midfielders. Ashley Williams might be a good call at center back but doubt we'll be able to raid Swansea for two of their players. At this stage of the season one would be difficult.

No Rooney? Would Stoke sell Begovic? Pulis was on BT Sports on Saturday and he said that Stoke had approaches for Begovic but the club refused to sell, no talks.

some names being put about by Gooners...

GK: Rene Adler, Cesar, Ron-Robert Zieler, Rui Patricio,
CB: Ashley Williams, Ginter, Sakho, Papadopoulos,
DM: Lars Bender, Sven Bender, Fellaini, Fernando, Khedira
AM: Eriksen, Arda Turan, Erik Lamela, Pjanic, Bruma, Ander Herrera, Ivan Rakitic, Thauvin
CF: Rooney, Doumbia, Luis Muriel, Jackson Martínez, Benteke,

Damien 18-08-2013 22:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35612325)
No Rooney? Would Stoke sell Begovic? Pulis was on BT Sports on Saturday and he said that Stoke had approaches for Begovic but the club refused to sell, no talks.

some names being put about by Gooners...

GK: Rene Adler, Cesar, Ron-Robert Zieler, Rui Patricio,
CB: Ashley Williams, Ginter, Sakho, Papadopoulos,
DM: Lars Bender, Sven Bender, Fellaini, Fernando, Khedira
AM: Eriksen, Arda Turan, Erik Lamela, Pjanic, Bruma, Ander Herrera, Ivan Rakitic, Thauvin
CF: Rooney, Doumbia, Luis Muriel, Jackson Martínez, Benteke,

I think they could sell. I don't see us getting Rooney and am unfamilar with some of those players. I would rather get established PL players at this stage. Begovic, Williams, one of the Bender brothers and Michu would be awesome.

TheDaddy 19-08-2013 01:00

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Just the signing arsenal need in the current circumstances

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/footb...akaria-Bakkali

thenry 19-08-2013 01:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35612384)
Just the signing arsenal need in the current circumstances

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/footb...akaria-Bakkali

If hes a spark then your sarcasm will come back to haunt you ;)

we need 4-5-6 players to compete, i dont care what order they come in as long as they come in by the end of this window.

TheDaddy 19-08-2013 04:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35612385)
If hes a spark then your sarcasm will come back to haunt you ;)

we need 4-5-6 players to compete, i dont care what order they come in as long as they come in by the end of this window.

It won't because regardless of how good he is now or more likely will become he's not what's needed right now, talk of Suarez and Rooney leads to the inevitable seventeen year old wonder kid who will be great in three years time signing, the fans are.crying out for a marquee signing, proven prem quality.

denphone 19-08-2013 10:05

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Arsenal's Lady Bracewell-Smith regrets her sell-out to Stan Kroenke.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...premier-league

Quote:

If Arsène Wenger, Ivan Gazidis and Arsenal's other powerbrokers thought angry reactions to this defeat were restricted to the club's supporters, and particularly those who chanted "spend some money" after Aston Villa had scored their third goal here, they would be wrong. For dissent is also coming from above, with the club's honorary vice-director, Lady Bracewell-Smith, also demanding change at the Emirates
Quote:

The club have had three months to add to their squad and appeared set to do so when Gazidis, the chief-executive, boasted in early June about an "escalation in our financial firepower". Yet the key targets Gonzalo Higuaín and Luiz Gustavo have moved elsewhere while links to Wayne Rooney and Luis Suárez are burning away. There has been a quality shortage for some time and now there is a quantity shortage to deal with days before a tie which threatens Arsenal's participation in the Champions League for a 16th straight season

MalteseFalcon 19-08-2013 11:02

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Realistically, should Fenerbahce beat Arsenal and qualify to the Champions League, and they win their case about being expelled from the tournament, will that increase pressure on Wenger? As in, will that move his job status from secure to very insecure? Would Arsenal's finances be stretched if they lose money from the Champions League?

At least (or I hope not) Arsenal haven't made the same mistake that Leeds made all those years ago, when they borrowed heavily against the promise of European football for at least the next 16 years.

Damien 19-08-2013 12:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35612420)
Realistically, should Fenerbahce beat Arsenal and qualify to the Champions League, and they win their case about being expelled from the tournament, will that increase pressure on Wenger? As in, will that move his job status from secure to very insecure? Would Arsenal's finances be stretched if they lose money from the Champions League?

At least (or I hope not) Arsenal haven't made the same mistake that Leeds made all those years ago, when they borrowed heavily against the promise of European football for at least the next 16 years.

If there is one thing we don't need to worry about it's doing a Leeds. Arsenal could afford to be without Champions League football and they've hardly spent a thing!

denphone 19-08-2013 12:54

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Well Mr Hansen and Mr Wright thinks differently it seems.;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23753304

Quote:

Arsenal cannot afford to be knocked out of the Champions League, according to BBC Sport pundit Alan Hansen.

The Gunners have failed to strengthen their squad in the summer and have been heavily criticised after a 3-1 Premier League defeat at home to Aston Villa on Saturday.

They face Fenerbahce in Turkey on Wednesday in the first leg of a Champions League group stage qualifier.

"It's unthinkable for Arsenal to go out of the Champions League," said Hansen.

"They will be left with the League Cup and FA Cup as they aren't going to win the title.
Quote:

"Arsenal have had frailties for the last three or four years in certain positions," said Hansen. "They have the money to fill those positions and Wenger hasn't done so.

"The goalkeeper, back four and certainly a holding player that is destructive are much-needed.

"They have got multi-talented midfield players and the massive pace of Theo Walcott. OK, they haven't got a potent goalscorer - but it's when they haven't got the ball that the problems are there as we saw against Aston Villa."

Hansen added: "I've mentioned four or five positions he needs to fill but he also needs a leader on the pitch.
Quote:

I do believe that getting into the Champions League as many times as Arsenal have does paper over some cracks. Now, we are at a place where we are looking down the end of a tunnel and you can't see any light right now. It looks very bleak at the minute

Damien 19-08-2013 13:05

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No they don't disagree with me. I am talking from a money point of view as was the post I was replying too.

Footballing wise getting knocked out of the Champions League would be very bad. Although Arsenal would still be in the Europa League so it wouldn't just leave them with only the FA and League cups but then Liverpool have been out of the Champions League places for so long I think we can forgive Hansen's ignorance on that part.

However Arsenal can clearly afford not to be in the Champions League and they won't do a Leeds. Arsenal are completely at the other end of the scale from Leeds, they don't spend enough rather than too much.

MalteseFalcon 19-08-2013 13:06

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Mind you, I seem to remember United losing to Villa 3-1 on the opening day with a youth heavy squad and they went on to win the League that season. So there might be an omen in Saturday.

Watch, it will all go to cock now and Arsenal will struggle to make 4th.

Uncle Peter 19-08-2013 13:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35612325)
No Rooney? Would Stoke sell Begovic? Pulis was on BT Sports on Saturday and he said that Stoke had approaches for Begovic but the club refused to sell, no talks.

some names being put about by Gooners...

GK: Rene Adler, Cesar, Ron-Robert Zieler, Rui Patricio,
CB: Ashley Williams, Ginter, Sakho, Papadopoulos,
DM: Lars Bender, Sven Bender, Fellaini, Fernando, Khedira
AM: Eriksen, Arda Turan, Erik Lamela, Pjanic, Bruma, Ander Herrera, Ivan Rakitic, Thauvin
CF: Rooney, Doumbia, Luis Muriel, Jackson Martínez, Benteke,

Keep a close eye on Adem Ljajic this season. I believe you were looking at him last window.

denphone 19-08-2013 13:23

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Breaking news from Sky Sports - Arsenal make bid for Yohan Cabaye

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/foo...-Yohan-Cabaye-

Damien 19-08-2013 13:28

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Not bad, not thrilling either. Still proven talent who won't need to adapt and less risky.

MalteseFalcon 19-08-2013 13:48

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And Newcastle reject it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...an-Cabaye.html

Damien 19-08-2013 13:51

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Meh Arsenal can come back or they'll be someone else. £12 million isn't that far from his worth IMO.

denphone 19-08-2013 13:56

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Personally l think the last week of the transfer window is going to be its usual mayhem again and fingers crossed that we beat Spurs to a certain player as well.

thenry 19-08-2013 15:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35612420)
Realistically, should Fenerbahce beat Arsenal and qualify to the Champions League, and they win their case about being expelled from the tournament, will that increase pressure on Wenger? As in, will that move his job status from secure to very insecure? Would Arsenal's finances be stretched if they lose money from the Champions League?

At least (or I hope not) Arsenal haven't made the same mistake that Leeds made all those years ago, when they borrowed heavily against the promise of European football for at least the next 16 years.

not stretched. there is a safety net but to fall into that net for nothing is hard to take when all could have been avoided by investing with the money the club has. also although CL brings in a decent amount its not something the club has to have to survive.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35612386)
It won't because regardless of how good he is now or more likely will become he's not what's needed right now, talk of Suarez and Rooney leads to the inevitable seventeen year old wonder kid who will be great in three years time signing, the fans are.crying out for a marquee signing, proven prem quality.

Arsenal need a GK, CB/FB, DM, AM and a CF. if the kid can fill the AM position then thatll do. Arsenal should sign Thauvin to fill the LW/AM/RW positions. the CF position is something else. Arsenal should sign Rooney to fill that hole.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35612407)
Arsenal's Lady Bracewell-Smith regrets her sell-out to Stan Kroenke.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...premier-league

Lady Nina screwed up big time, shes admitted being sold a false dream. its interesting she said 2 years ago somethings missing from Wenger and continues to attack the board.

Bring back David Dein and put Red&White on the board!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35612474)
Breaking news from Sky Sports - Arsenal make bid for Yohan Cabaye

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/foo...-Yohan-Cabaye-

:shocked:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/88...-page-108.html

:LOL:

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Exclusive: Blues angrily reject joint £28m Man Utd bid for Fellaini and Baines

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport...ngrily-5749316
doing an Arsenal lol

Quote:

Diego Simeone has played down Atletico Madrid’s opening day win, insisting La Liga’s title is only between Real Madrid and Barcelona.

“Madrid and Barcelona play in a different League. This is a boring championship. We will have to wait for a different television revenue distribution because right now, the League is only between two teams."

http://www.football-espana.net/35376...ga-between-two

adzii_nufc 19-08-2013 15:58

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Arsenal need to remember this is Mike Ashley you have to please, regardless of Cabaye's worth he's not going to settle for anything less than double or even triple that.

Arsenal need to move on asap rather than risk the backlash of the fans after chasing a player for the next few weeks and end up not signing him.

On the other hand if Ashley does something completely unpredictable and accepts £12 million then he may have pushed Newcastle fans over that tipping point but not to worry it seems clear Cabaye won't be moving for anything less than £20 million. < Scratch that, they reckon Newcastle won't take anything less than £30 million now.

Another Andy Carroll like disaster on the cards. Ah no sorry, I was thinking of another team in red. Onto Cabaye, calling him proven is a bit off to be fair, all he's proven so far is he can have a good season or a terrible one, he's as inconsistent as they come and a bit of a pain to watch. Brilliant first season followed up by an awful second in which his passing, free kicks and general set pieces were way off his best. He's like Hatem Ben Arfa in comparison, one game on one game off.

thenry 19-08-2013 17:44

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I hope its a smokescreen. Arsenal should go and get one of the Benders https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/08/6.gif Lars or Sven.

denphone 19-08-2013 18:42

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Fulham sign Tottenham midfielder.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23761927

Damien 19-08-2013 19:12

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Mike Ashley must be open to the offer. They're the ones who leaked the bid.

thenry 19-08-2013 19:25

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Of course he'll be open to a bid but not the sort of bid Arsenal will make for Cabaye.

denphone 19-08-2013 19:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35612632)
Of course he'll be open to a bid but not the sort of bid Arsenal will make for Cabaye.

£15 million might get him.

thenry 19-08-2013 19:34

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I agree totally with Carragher and Neville. its a joke.

denphone 19-08-2013 19:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35612647)
I agree totally with Carragher and Neville. its a joke.

+1

thenry 19-08-2013 19:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35612644)
£15 million might get him.

whats the point Den. Arsenal may as well go and get someone worthwhile, one of the Bender brothers.

Pardew on SS1 right now. looks like Arsenal have ****ed them off with this bid, just like they ****ed Liverpool off.

colin25 19-08-2013 19:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35612644)
£15 million might get him.

Rumours are that Arsenal have now bid £10m plus £1

:D

thenry 19-08-2013 19:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35612658)
Rumours are that Arsenal have now bid £10m plus £1

:D

you can laugh about that extra 1 pound, I'm not. its just as well Liverpool didnt accept it seeing as we'll need that pound coin to unchain the trolley for our annual trolley dash!

Damien 19-08-2013 20:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35612650)
whats the point Den. Arsenal may as well go and get someone worthwhile, one of the Bender brothers.

Pardew on SS1 right now. looks like Arsenal have ****ed them off with this bid, just like they ****ed Liverpool off.

When did managers become such sensitive souls? We're going to bid for players and teams are going to receive bids for players. Welcome to football. Rodgers complained our bid lacked class but we were not the ones to leak it and believed there to be a release clause. Were Arsenal meant to throw a million away to avoid upsetting Rodgers? Pardew is upset we bid for one of his players? Say no deal and leave it at that. Why bother leaking it to the press and getting upset about it? If receiving a bid for your players is so traumatic then change profession.

In reality we didnt upset either, it's just posturing. They've all been in football long enough to know how it works and if Arsenal offer an acceptable bid they will accept and if not they won't. These facts won't change no matter no long Pardew and Roders cry into their pillows at the unfairness of it all.

colin25 19-08-2013 20:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35612672)
When did managers become such sensitive souls? We're going to bid for players and teams are going to receive bids for players. Welcome to football. Rodgers complained our bid lacked class but we were not the ones to leak it and believed there to be a release clause. Were Arsenal meant to throw a million away to avoid upsetting Rodgers? Pardew is upset we bid for one of his players? Say no deal and leave it at that. Why bother leaking it to the press and getting upset about it? If receiving a bid for your players is so traumatic then change profession.

In reality we didnt upset either, it's just posturing. They've all been in football long enough to know how it works and if Arsenal offer an acceptable bid they will accept and if not they won't. These facts won't change no matter no long Pardew and Roders cry into their pillows at the unfairness of it all.

I suppose the question is, is that a player you need?

I would have thought a striker is number 1 on shopping list.

thenry 19-08-2013 20:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35612672)
When did managers become such sensitive souls? We're going to bid for players and teams are going to receive bids for players. Welcome to football. Rodgers complained our bid lacked class but we were not the ones to leak it and believed there to be a release clause. Were Arsenal meant to throw a million away to avoid upsetting Rodgers? Pardew is upset we bid for one of his players? Say no deal and leave it at that. Why bother leaking it to the press and getting upset about it? If receiving a bid for your players is so traumatic then change profession.

In reality we didnt upset either, it's just posturing. They've all been in football long enough to know how it works and if Arsenal offer an acceptable bid they will accept and if not they won't. These facts won't change no matter no long Pardew and Roders cry into their pillows at the unfairness of it all.

The clubs have jumped on it before the players/agents start mouthing off to the media. theres nothing wrong with that.

colin25 19-08-2013 20:31

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That is why I would never ever have lescott in my team,...he insists on passing to the opposition in front of his goal..idiot

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I like navas' run, to chase the keeper, keep them on their toes :)

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I like the humour from the BBc site

Nico Lennon: My main concern is that Tim Krul doesn't aggravate his shoulder injury by having to keep picking the ball out of his net.

adzii_nufc 19-08-2013 20:48

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Newcastle are closer to this crisis thing than Arsenal. Worst defence in the league, constantly having problems with players and not strengthening a team that was lucky to avoid the drop. It's trivial beating Newcastle. Run at the defence and pick out your unmarked players...defending like that in this league heh. Add the hilarious staff structure and the owner to that.

colin25 19-08-2013 20:48

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I was waiting for someone to be sent off..seen it coming

thenry 19-08-2013 20:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35612698)
Newcastle are closer to this crisis thing than Arsenal. Worst defence in the league, constantly having problems with players and not strengthening a team that was lucky to avoid the drop. It's trivial beating Newcastle. Run at the defence and pick out your unmarked players...defending like that in this league heh.

is your prediction of Pardew out, Poyet in close to happening ?

denphone 19-08-2013 20:54

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They should have hoofed Pardew out at the end of last season but then again Ashley is a idiot and one never knows what this fool will do next.

adzii_nufc 19-08-2013 20:54

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Even if it did he has no time to get players and this squad is as appalling as Pardews tactics. That back four have no discipline at all and Steven Taylor is a joke and a liability. He always was and always will be.

This gimmick contract in llambias words was meant to signal commitment and stability. Newcastle have taken 2 steps forward then 150 steps back. Feels as stable as Gazza after the weekend

colin25 19-08-2013 20:58

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
I fear this could be a club in crisis, kinnear made (or Ashley)

adzii_nufc 19-08-2013 21:01

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35612705)
I fear this could be a club in crisis, kinnear made (or Ashley)

I joked about it the other day but it's quickly becoming reality. Like I said Cabaye going for buttons would spark fans into scenes similar to the sacking of Kevin Keegan and would be the final straw for Mike Ashley in the fans eyes. The fact arguably the star player is missing tonight because of a bid is a joke. Mike Ashley may be a genius businessman but this is a football club and an entirely different venture. He might have played around with finances but he's done nothing for the club on the pitch

denphone 19-08-2013 21:04

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35612705)
I fear this could be a club in crisis, kinnear made (or Ashley)

And l thought Arsenal were having problems but Newcastle are like a ship that is heading towards the iceberg at full speed with no captain on board.

colin25 19-08-2013 21:05

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35612707)
I joked about it the other day but it's quickly becoming reality. Like I said Cabaye going for buttons would spark fans into scenes similar to the sacking of Kevin Keegan and would be the final straw for Mike Ashley in the fans eyes. The fact arguably the star player is missing tonight because of a bid is a joke.

yes.

But if you look at the team, they are doing stupid niggly things like the fouls. that is always a good indicator of an unhappy club.

And getting a few injuries, red cards, could cost newcastle early in the season. Once you start losing some ground...crisis starts

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35612708)
And l thought Arsenal were having problems but Newcastle are like a ship that is heading towards the iceberg at full speed with no captain on board.

Yes, it is looking that way

adzii_nufc 19-08-2013 21:05

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35612708)
And l thought Arsenal were having problems but Newcastle are like a ship that is heading towards the iceberg at full speed with no captain on board.

Newcastle are an aeroplane with no wheels or lifeboats...

colin25 19-08-2013 21:06

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35612711)
Newcastle are an aeroplane with no wheels or lifeboats...

Or is that a ship with no lifeboats or wheels :D

adzii_nufc 19-08-2013 21:09

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35612709)
yes.

But if you look at the team, they are doing stupid niggly things like the fouls. that is always a good indicator of an unhappy club.

And getting a few injuries, red cards, could cost newcastle early in the season. Once you start losing some ground...crisis starts

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Yes, it is looking that way

Mentioned it in my other post regarding the discipline of this lot. Unhappy or not we can't be doing with cards this early

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35612712)
Or is that a ship with no lifeboats or wheels :D

You have chance of rescue on a boat..no one in their right minds would buy this club

colin25 19-08-2013 21:10

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35612713)
Mentioned it in my other post regarding the discipline of this lot. Unhappy or not we can't be doing with cards this early

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You have chance of rescue on a boat..no one in their right minds would buy this club

I can see another sending off..if they aren't careful

Think of sub, without air :D

denphone 19-08-2013 21:11

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
3-0 to City.

thenry 19-08-2013 21:12

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Powerhouse Yaya Toure. I miss Vieira :(

colin25 19-08-2013 21:13

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
I want negredo on

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35612717)
Powerhouse Yaya Toure. I miss Vieira :(

I read somewhere that Arsenal were going for yaya before city got him..but wouldn't stump up the money

denphone 19-08-2013 21:14

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35612717)
Powerhouse Yaya Toure. I miss Vieira :(

Vieira was a true giant in the days of Highbury glory.

thenry 19-08-2013 21:35

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35612718)
I read somewhere that Arsenal were going for yaya before city got him..but wouldn't stump up the money

Arsenal could never had competed with what City offered Yaya. Our wage bill was clogged to the max and having just 1 player on 200 odd k wouldnt work.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35612721)
Vieira was a true giant in the days of Highbury glory.

and look he's sitting at City because he's not a 'yes man'

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As it stands Arsenal have moved up a position in the league. I bet Wenger rules out 1 of his signings now. Mental strength.

colin25 19-08-2013 21:37

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35612723)
Arsenal could never had competed with what City offered Yaya. Our wage bill was clogged to the max and having just 1 player on 200 odd k wouldnt work.

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and look he's sitting at City because he's not a 'yes man'

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As it stands Arsenal have moved up a position in the league. I bet Wenger rules out 1 of his signings now. Mental strength.

To be honest, there was more room going up then down :D

thenry 19-08-2013 21:54

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Adz..

Quote:

Jeremy Wilson ‏@JWTelegraph
Told by a good source that Mike Ashley responded to Arsenal £10.2m bid for Cabaye by saying "which part of him do you want?"
9:38 PM - 19 Aug 13
https://twitter.com/JWTelegraph/stat...59115883757568
Quote:

In a direct conversation with Dick Law, Arsenal’s contract negotiator, it is understood that Newcastle owner Mike Ashley responded to the offer for Cabaye with the words: “Which part of him do you want to buy?” When Law assured him that Arsenal’s offer was genuine, Ashley then apparently said that they should come back with at least £20 million if they were serious about starting negotiations.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...idfielder.html

Damien 19-08-2013 22:02

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
£20 million is a bit much. People have gone mad.

thenry 19-08-2013 22:13

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35612747)
£20 million is a bit much. People have gone mad.

agreed but thats football Damien. I'd rather have Fellaini for 20 odd m

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seen this... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/...cle3847480.ece

It says Arsene Wenger has told people he's happy with the squad and doesn't agree with the fans that he needs to spend. Current squad can push for honours.

adzii_nufc 19-08-2013 22:42

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
At least we have one thing still intact in Mike Ashley and his greed

TheDaddy 19-08-2013 23:12

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35612672)
When did managers become such sensitive souls? We're going to bid for players and teams are going to receive bids for players. Welcome to football. Rodgers complained our bid lacked class but we were not the ones to leak it and believed there to be a release clause. Were Arsenal meant to throw a million away to avoid upsetting Rodgers? Pardew is upset we bid for one of his players? Say no deal and leave it at that. Why bother leaking it to the press and getting upset about it? If receiving a bid for your players is so traumatic then change profession.

In reality we didnt upset either, it's just posturing. They've all been in football long enough to know how it works and if Arsenal offer an acceptable bid they will accept and if not they won't. These facts won't change no matter no long Pardew and Roders cry into their pillows at the unfairness of it all.

If you had spent the extra million Rogers might have let him go, upset people and they'll dig their heels in and refuse to even negotiate.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35612723)
Arsenal could never had competed with what City offered Yaya. Our wage bill was clogged to the max and having just 1 player on 200 odd k wouldnt work.

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and look he's sitting at City because he's not a 'yes man'

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As it stands Arsenal have moved up a position in the league. I bet Wenger rules out 1 of his signings now. Mental strength.

Would he have cost arsenal 200k per week, city paid premium wages because they weren't a fashionable club then

thenry 19-08-2013 23:53

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35612780)
Would he have cost arsenal 200k per week, city paid premium wages because they weren't a fashionable club then

Yup. City was clearly on the rise. Yaya does a lot of charity work so did have reason a good reason to go for money. on top of that I just couldn't see Arsenal pay the transfer fee when we had Song picking up form.

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Quote:

Transfer news: Manchester City midfielder Gareth Barry told he can join Everton confirms Manuel Pellegrini

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...i-8774574.html
replacement for Fellaini?

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this is worth a read

Quote:

Arsene's tired formula just doesn't add up anymore against heavyweight rivals

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...d-anymore.html
incredible if its all true. Alex Ox revelations are unacceptable. Steve Bould called Simon Jordan but that deal wasn't as clear cut as Utd came in and its done, we all know Zaha pretty much begged for a move to Arsenal. Arsene Wenger didn't bother so Zaha went to Utd.

adzii_nufc 20-08-2013 05:35

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Truly awful performance from an awful team. More physical than Stoke. It was disgraceful the way the players conducted themselves last night and particularly Debuchy and Taylor. Both were awful defending too. Not to take anything away from City but David Silva had 4 defenders in the box with him and not a single one marked him. Yaya Toure would never had scored had Vurnon Anita actually done his job. Other than that City walked the match deservingly. If West Ham put balls in the box and just run at our horrid defence then they'll take 3 points

thenry 20-08-2013 13:09

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

David Ornstein ‏@bbcsport_david
Willian to decide Liverpool/Spurs later today. #Lfc offering around £30m, no bearing on Suarez. #Thfc will match, could have bearing on Bale
12:12 PM - 20 Aug 13
https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david/s...78926719352832
Quote:

David Ornstein ‏@bbcsport_david
As elsewhere, Tottenham in pole position to sign Willian from Anzhi in deal worth around £30m. More @BBCSport soon #bbcsportsday #thfc #lfc
1:24 PM - 20 Aug 13
https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david/s...97058775240705
damn!

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Quote:

Sky Sport Italia claim Juventus forward Fabio Quagliarella is ready to join West Ham, but the clubs have yet to agree terms.

http://www.football-italia.net/38541...y-quagliarella

denphone 20-08-2013 13:22

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
l get the feeling Willian will chose Spurs.

Julian 20-08-2013 13:57

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
I don't know if this has been mentioned but it is quite funny

Ox playing time limit

Quote:

Written into the England winger’s deal is a clause stating that Arsenal must pay Saints £10,000 every time Oxlade-Chamberlain appears for more than 20 minutes.

Incredibly a trend emerged, with Wenger bringing him off the bench after 72 minutes (v Stoke), 73 minutes (Liverpool), 72 minutes (Coventry), 65 minutes (Norwich), 76 minutes (Fulham), 86 minutes (Tottenham), 67 minutes (Swansea), 73 minutes (West Ham), 71 minutes (Swansea), and 75 minutes (Reading).

thenry 20-08-2013 14:25

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
yup #1677, its not funny. its disrespectful. our club is being run by an obsessed flawed visioned lunatic. as a support of Arsenal, if it means anything, sorry

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35612906)
l get the feeling Willian will chose Spurs.

they have Lamela on the radar too. thats spending Bales money wisely.

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Romas director is in London or on his way possibly selling Marco Borriello, Miralem Pjanic and Erik Lamela

http://www.corrieredellosport.it/cal...%3A+Noi+a+Roma

http://www.ansa.it/web/notizie/rubri...medium=twitter

Borriello Fulham/West Ham bound? Pjanic Arsenal bound? Lamela to Tottenham ?

Shadow Demon UK 20-08-2013 14:37

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Apparently Bale to Madrid is a done deal. £93 million...

denphone 20-08-2013 14:46

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35612926)
Apparently Bale to Madrid is a done deal. £93 million...

Nobody's worth that.

thenry 20-08-2013 16:39

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35612666)
you can laugh about that extra 1 pound, I'm not. its just as well Liverpool didnt accept it seeing as we'll need that pound coin to unchain the trolley for our annual trolley dash!

http://sabotagetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/gif1.gif

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Celtic are currently 1 down vs Shakhter Karagandy ITV4

can anyone offer some advice for later on, which would you watch

PSV Eindhoven v AC Milan

or

Lyon v Real Sociedad

I'm leaning towards Lyon vs Sociedad, looks like a tasty affair. but PSV vs AC is being dubbed as a possible goal feast

there are also 2 others on

Pacos Ferreira v Zenit St P'sbg
Plzen v NK Maribor

but they dont really interest

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btw Revista De La Liga on at 6 SS1 before the fixtures above. may get some transfer news.

denphone 20-08-2013 16:43

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
PSV v AC Milan for me bud.

colin25 20-08-2013 16:56

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35612991)
PSV v AC Milan for me bud.

+1

thenry 20-08-2013 18:05

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Celtic beaten 2-0 by Borat in the first leg. Celtic were poor!

colin25 20-08-2013 18:11

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35613017)
Celtic beaten 2-0 by Borat in the first leg. Celtic were poor!

Yes, under estimated opposition, or at least they didn't play to same level.

Quite impressed with the opposition.

denphone 20-08-2013 18:31

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35613017)
Celtic beaten 2-0 by Borat in the first leg. Celtic were poor!

Yes a very disappointing result to say the least.:(

thenry 20-08-2013 20:59

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
2 quality goals in the game in France for Real Sociedad...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ECg-kJWrAxA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daw3RUHJZ2Y

denphone 20-08-2013 21:02

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35613120)

Especially the first one.

adzii_nufc 20-08-2013 22:37

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Newcastle have approached 2 foreign players to replace Yohan Cabaye which suggests Arsenal are set to spend the £20 million to get Cabaye.

thenry 20-08-2013 23:12

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35613164)
Newcastle have approached 2 foreign players to replace Yohan Cabaye which suggests Arsenal are set to spend the £20 million to get Cabaye.

who are the players Adz? Gomis and Thauvin ?

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Arsenal have increased the bid to 18m euros > 15m pounds for Cabaye according to RMC

http://www.rmcsport.fr/info/511626/n...rsenal-cabaye/

denphone 21-08-2013 19:24

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Come on Arsenal make us proud tonight.:cleader:

Damien 21-08-2013 20:40

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Need to score. Don't like the idea of a score draw sending us out of the CL next week.

denphone 21-08-2013 20:55

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35613496)
Need to score. Don't like the idea of a score draw sending us out of the CL next week.

Oh how Arsenal could do with a Henry or Van Persie up front though as Giroud is alright up to a point.

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Yes.:cleader:

MalteseFalcon 21-08-2013 21:16

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Now for Villa to score one more goal and my night will be complete.

denphone 21-08-2013 21:19

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35613514)
Now for Villa to score one more goal and my night will be complete.

No l would prefer it to be Chelsea as my brother supports them.:nono:

MalteseFalcon 21-08-2013 21:22

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Sorry den, unless it is against Hull and Cardiff, Chelsea get no support from me. Another one of my petty grudges from 9 years back, so no chance of it ending soon I'm afraid.

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Blast. Bloody Ivanovic.


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