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muppetman11 01-01-2013 20:23
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35518639)
They might tell people its expensive to make but l simply don't believe that line which they are peddling.
If its so inexpensive to setup , produce and distribute HD why have newer sports channels such as Premier Sports , Boxnation not adopted the format being that most of their programming is filmed in High Definition ?

denphone 01-01-2013 20:27
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35518644)
If its so inexpensive to setup , produce and distribute HD why have newer sports channels such as Premier Sports , Boxnation not adopted the format being that most of their programming is filmed in High Definition ?
You would have to ask them that MM.

nstokes 01-01-2013 20:36
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35518646)
You would have to ask them that MM.
Maybe you should email them Den :)

I think your in that dream of yours again :D and just wont allow that dream of yours to see that HD is still a premium for a reason

denphone 01-01-2013 20:38
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35518650)
Maybe you should email them Den :)

I think your in that dream of yours again :D and just wont allow that dream of yours to see that HD is still a premium for a reason
Alas my young padawan you still have much to learn and perhaps you need to devote more time to your masters rose tinted teachings.:)

nstokes 01-01-2013 20:43
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35518652)
Alas my young padawan you still have much to learn and perhaps you need to devote more time to your masters rose tinted teachings.:)
Them glasess are rose tinted? I thought they were sunflower tinted :D:D

telegramsam 02-01-2013 11:20
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35518612)
Some might call it value but HD now should be seen as standard and not as some extra add on charge.:nono:
I agree,HD should now be the norm not a premium. Sky in particular have made alot of money already out of charging an aditional fee to watch HD channels. And lets not forget it wasn`t that long ago they charged it per box not per subscription! At the end of the day though they will keep charging it for as long as people(like me)keep on paying it. It would be nice if sky dropped the charge altogether or at least reduced it say by half.

Doz007 02-01-2013 21:26
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35518638)
Far from it. See table 2.17 here.

Also, only 59% of HD-ready TV owners have an HD source available.
(Source: table 86 here)
Thanks for the link, table 2.17 is very interesting but unless I'm missing something obvious, the reason 60% of people upgrade is because they want the latest technology. HD is the latest in TV tech in my eyes.

As for 59% of people not having a HD source available. That figure does seem really high and I guess it's due to uneducated consumers and over eagar salesmen. I hear the phrase "this TV will make everything you watch HD" quite a lot in Currys etc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35518619)
But the thing is MM nearly everything is done in HD now so why should people have to pay a extra premium to get access to it.
Do you still complain about paying a £100 per year premium to watch colour TV?

You need to be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record TV as it's being broadcast. This includes the use of devices such as a computer, laptop, mobile phone or DVD/video recorder.
It costs £145.50 for colour and £49.00 for a black and white TV Licence.

Taken from: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/

denphone 02-01-2013 21:30
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35518968)
Thanks for the link, table 2.17 is very interesting but unless I'm missing something obvious, the reason 60% of people upgrade is because they want the latest technology. HD is the latest in TV tech in my eyes.

As for 59% of people not having a HD source available. That figure does seem really high and I guess it's due to uneducated consumers and over eagar salesmen. I hear the phrase "this TV will make everything you watch HD" quite a lot in Currys etc.



Do you still complain about paying a £100 per year premium to watch colour TV?

You need to be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record TV as it's being broadcast. This includes the use of devices such as a computer, laptop, mobile phone or DVD/video recorder.
It costs £145.50 for colour and £49.00 for a black and white TV Licence.

Taken from: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/
Indeed in my opinion the TV Licence should have been abolished a long time ago and the BBC should have to survive in the commercial world just like anybody else.

nstokes 02-01-2013 21:33
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35518972)
Indeed in my opinion the TV Licence should have been abolished a long time ago and the BBC should have to survive in the commercial world just like anybody else.
Will never happen thou. BBC will never have ads and unless the government pay them then we are stuck with the TV Licence sadly

Doz007 02-01-2013 21:34
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35518972)
Indeed in my opinion the TV Licence should have been abolished a long time ago and the BBC should have to survive in the commercial world just like anybody else.
Whilst I agree with you Den, that's another debate entirely. :)

My point was the £100 per year premium for watching TV in colour. Colour is the 100% industry standard today but yet still demands a premium - why do you think HD shouldn't do the same?

colin25 02-01-2013 21:40
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35518975)
Whilst I agree with you Den, that's another debate entirely. :)

My point was the £100 per year premium for watching TV in colour. Colour is the 100% industry standard today but yet still demands a premium - why do you think HD shouldn't do the same?
good point. Can't remember last time i saw a black and white tv...at least one built for that purpose

martyh 02-01-2013 23:39
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
well that's me 100% sky ,dumped BT i have just upgraded my package to
Sky talk =free+ 14.50 line rental
entertainment extra 26.50
Sky BB unlimited (only get 4-6mg)
one multiroom box £10 per month

cost of package 58.50+vat

saving me about 30-40 £'s per month and i'm getting exactly the same BB as i got from BT

nstokes 03-01-2013 11:08
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Channel 376 has been renamed to Chart Show Dance. EPG shows it CS Dance. The channel was named Dance Nation

Mick Fisher 03-01-2013 16:19
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35519030)
well that's me 100% sky ,dumped BT i have just upgraded my package to
Sky talk =free+ 14.50 line rental
entertainment extra 26.50
Sky BB unlimited (only get 4-6mg)
one multiroom box £10 per month

cost of package 58.50+vat

saving me about 30-40 £'s per month and i'm getting exactly the same BB as i got from BT
You have gone the same way as me :tu: with the only difference being skyfibre unlimited is available here.

Once it becomes available in your area and you upgrade, you won't know yourself. :)

martyh 03-01-2013 16:26
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 35519193)
You have gone the same way as me :tu: with the only difference being skyfibre unlimited is available here.

Once it becomes available in your area and you upgrade, you won't know yourself. :)
I thought it was ridiculous waiting for BT to upgrade my area .It has been put back 3 times so i thought if the best i can get is 4-5 meg then i will not continue paying BT's premium price (£26p/m i think it was)when i can get the same connection speed from sky for £7.50 .
BT tried to match the deal for £40 p/m using their tv service which requires at least 2meg of the connection speed to work so playing games for the lads will be a no no .Seems pointless even offering it in low speed areas

Mick Fisher 03-01-2013 16:31
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35519196)
I thought it was ridiculous waiting for BT to upgrade my area .It has been put back 3 times so i thought if the best i can get is 4-5 meg then i will not continue paying BT's premium price (£26p/m i think it was)when i can get the same connection speed from sky for £7.50 .
BT tried to match the deal for £40 p/m using their tv service which requires at least 2meg of the connection speed to work so playing games for the lads will be a no no .Seems pointless even offering it in low speed areas
I think BT suck, I want nothing to do with them.

martyh 03-01-2013 16:37
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 35519197)
I think BT suck, I want nothing to do with them.
My only gripe now is that i still have pay BT for the line rental :(

muppetman11 03-01-2013 16:39
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35519198)
My only gripe now is that i still have pay BT for the line rental :(
Why , Sky have their own line rental , is your BB on Sky Connect or on Sky LLU network ?

martyh 03-01-2013 16:40
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35519200)
Why , Sky have their own line rental.
I know but doesn't that go to BT because bt own the lines ?

muppetman11 03-01-2013 16:46
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35519201)
I know but doesn't that go to BT because bt own the lines ?
I have Sky line rental and Sky BB , if I had a line fault Sky deal with me over the phone and send out an Openreach (Part of BT) engineer to check it out.

martyh 03-01-2013 16:51
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35519202)
I have Sky line rental and Sky BB , if I had a line fault Sky deal with me over the phone and send out an Openreach engineer to check it out.
That's what i thought happened ,BT own the line and just 'rent' it to sky .So the line rental i pay actually belongs to BT ,or at least most of it so i am still paying BT money ,not that anything can be done about that though

muppetman11 03-01-2013 17:03
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35519203)
That's what i thought happened ,BT own the line and just 'rent' it to sky .So the line rental i pay actually belongs to BT ,or at least most of it so i am still paying BT money ,not that anything can be done about that though
I believe communications providers pay £87.41 annually for a fully unbundled line , the rest would belong to your communications provider.

muppetman11 05-01-2013 16:57
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
A poster on DS forums is claiming More 4 HD will launch as a Sky only channel , not sure if info is correct.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...&postcount=197

nstokes 05-01-2013 18:22
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35519772)
A poster on DS forums is claiming More 4 HD will launch as a Sky only channel , not sure if info is correct.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...&postcount=197
I wonder how true that is, if so i dont think VM customers will be happy that its a Skay exclusive

colin25 05-01-2013 18:31
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35519826)
I wonder how true that is, if so i dont think VM customers will be happy that its a Skay exclusive
Why? Having just looked at what is on that channel, I'd be happy not to have it.

nstokes 05-01-2013 18:31
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35519839)
Why? Having just looked at what is on that channel, I'd be happy not to have it.
Maybe so but its 1 more HD channel that VM dont have that people may want

colin25 05-01-2013 18:35
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35519841)
Maybe so but its 1 more HD channel that VM dont have that people may want
i can understand channels people watch a lot, eg sky atalantic

Otherwise, not sure having an HD channel you don't watch is any benefit.

But, if lots were watching it, fair dues

denphone 05-01-2013 18:56
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35519839)
Why? Having just looked at what is on that channel, I'd be happy not to have it.
l have never watched More 4 myself.

Chad 05-01-2013 19:09
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35519772)
A poster on DS forums is claiming More 4 HD will launch as a Sky only channel , not sure if info is correct.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...&postcount=197
It might just be. From the original press release:

"Two new High Definition channels, Film4 HD and More4HD, to join Sky+HD. This will complete the HD roll-out of Channel 4’s core channel portfolio, which began in 2006 when Channel 4 became the first commercial Public Service Broadcaster to launch an HD service."

I don't watch too much More4 but the wife does. More4HD will be enjoyed in my household.

How many popular channels are left still to go HD? There really can't be too many. Personally I'd like to see SKY introduce HD for their own +1 channels.

muppetman11 05-01-2013 19:11
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
The wife is looking forward to the forthcoming US Drama 'Nashville' which will be shown on More 4 and no doubt now in HD.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...in-the-uk.html

spiderplant 05-01-2013 19:23
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35519843)
i can understand channels people watch a lot, eg sky atalantic
More4 gets 5 times as many viewers as Sky Atlantic.
http://www.barb.co.uk/viewing/weekly...g-summary?_s=4

---------- Post added at 18:23 ---------- Previous post was at 18:18 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35519870)
How many popular channels are left still to go HD?
BBC2
BBC3
BBC News
More4
C4+1
BBC4
Pick TV
ITV1+1
CBeebies
Yesterday
CBBC
G.O.L.D
5 USA
Quest
5*
Challenge
4Music

muppetman11 05-01-2013 19:32
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35519877)
BBC2
BBC3
BBC News
More4
C4+1
BBC4
Pick TV
ITV1+1
CBeebies
Yesterday
CBBC
G.O.L.D
5 USA
Quest
5*
Challenge
4Music
The BBC could well make the move to HD with their News channel soon as this year could see quite a few HD news channels

Sky News HD (Already broadcasting)
NHK World HD (Already broadcasting)
RT HD (Testing now , due sometime this month)
CNNI HD (Announced they'll go HD this year)
Fox News HD been rumoured for a while

Chad 05-01-2013 19:38
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35519877)
BBC2
BBC3
BBC News
More4
C4+1
BBC4
Pick TV
ITV1+1
CBeebies
Yesterday
CBBC
G.O.L.D
5 USA
Quest
5*
Challenge
4Music
If I had to chose just 3 from the list I'd go for BBC2 HD, BBC4 HD and Yesterday HD.

nstokes 05-01-2013 19:40
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35519903)
If I had to chose just 3 from the list I'd go for BBC2 HD, BBC4 HD and Yesterday HD.
Mine would be 5 USA, 5 * and 4Music

denphone 05-01-2013 19:41
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35519905)
Mine would be 5 USA, 5 * and 4Music
BBC4 HD and Yesterday HD for me.

nstokes 05-01-2013 19:42
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35519906)
BBC4 HD and Yesterday HD for me.
For all the old folk programs no doubt :D:D

denphone 05-01-2013 19:45
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35519908)
For all the old folk programs no doubt :D:D
No its for people who like interesting programmes and you should try to watch it sometime.

nstokes 05-01-2013 19:46
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35519914)
No its for people who like interesting programmes and you should try to watch it sometime.
I might do, one day :)

Chad 05-01-2013 19:56
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35519906)
BBC4 HD and Yesterday HD for me.
Stop copying me. Next thing you'll be telling us your joining SKY ;) :D

nstokes 05-01-2013 19:57
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35519926)
Stop copying me. Next thing you'll be telling us your joining SKY ;) :D
Lets hope he is. Would be cracking to here him say that :D

denphone 05-01-2013 20:12
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35519926)
Stop copying me. Next thing you'll be telling us your joining SKY ;) :D
Never my young servant of the master.:nono:

passingbat 05-01-2013 20:26
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
'The Good Wife' is on More4, which is a good legal drama with a bit of politics thrown in for good measure. It would be good to see that in HD.

---------- Post added at 19:26 ---------- Previous post was at 19:22 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35519905)
Mine would be 5 USA...
5 USA would be good for 'Justified' and 'Sons of Anarchy'

denphone 07-01-2013 12:33
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Sky Sports agree NBA deal.

http://www.mvp247.com/2013/01/sky-sp...gree-nba-deal/

Quote:
The NBA has agreed a television deal with Sky Sports that will see the broadcaster screen regular live Sunday night games, plus next week’s London tie between the New York Knicks and Detroit Pistons.

The regular season clash with by shown on Sky 3D and then continue with up to two games each weekend, plus play-off coverage that includes the Eastern Conference Finals and each game of the NBA Finals in June.

It will sit a long side the NBA’s existing deal with ESPN which sees them show the All Star Game and the Western Conference Finals.

nstokes 07-01-2013 12:38
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35520413)
Thats great news. Come on Chicgao Balls

denphone 07-01-2013 12:41
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35520415)
Thats great news. Come on Chicgao Balls
Yes it is indeed good news.

muppetman11 07-01-2013 13:08
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Good news for NBA fans and nice to see a game in 3D also.

Media Boy UK 07-01-2013 13:14
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
The way Sky Sports is reporting it the NBA deal is only until 'End of season'.

http://www1.skysports.com/basketball...on-Sky-Sports-

denphone 07-01-2013 13:31
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35520436)
The way Sky Sports is reporting it the NBA deal is only until 'End of season'.

http://www1.skysports.com/basketball...on-Sky-Sports-
Thanks for that update MB.

Chad 07-01-2013 13:56
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35520436)
The way Sky Sports is reporting it the NBA deal is only until 'End of season'.

http://www1.skysports.com/basketball...on-Sky-Sports-
I'm confused.

Have SKY taken over the contract ESPN agreed with the NBA last month, or have SKY agreed a seperate deal meaning NBA on both SKY and ESPN?

---------- Post added at 12:56 ---------- Previous post was at 12:46 ----------

SKY's NBA deal runs side-by-side with the EPSN deal.

http://www.hoopsfix.com/2013/01/nba-...live-coverage/

Looks like NBA fans are about to get a feast of games over the next 6 months.

muppetman11 07-01-2013 15:25
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Russia Today HD added to Sky EPG channel number 512.

Media Boy UK 07-01-2013 15:26
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35520482)
Russia Today HD added to Sky EPG channel number 512.
... With Russia Today SD moving to Channel 518 on Sky HD Boxes.

WillPS 08-01-2013 03:59
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Is 4OD on Sky still happening? I've noticed the "coming in 2013" banner has been taken away...

muppetman11 08-01-2013 07:19
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillPS (Post 35520680)
Is 4OD on Sky still happening? I've noticed the "coming in 2013" banner has been taken away...
Yes it's still happening , Sky signed a deal with Channel 4 which will see the following -

Channel 4 channels added to Sky Go
More 4 HD to launch on Sky
Film 4 HD to launch on Sky
4OD to be added to Sky On Demand.

http://www.channel4.com/info/press/n...t-of-channel-4

Media Boy UK 08-01-2013 13:38
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From Overnights.tv

Quote:
Channel Rebrand
FX and FX+1 will rebrand to FOX and FOX+1 on 11th January 2013.

Channel Rebrand
Men&Movies and Men&Movies+1 are rebranding to more>movies/movies mix and more>movies/movies mix+1 on 10th January, 2013.
http://www.overnights.tv/public/content/News.aspx

telegramsam 08-01-2013 16:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35520743)
From Overnights.tv
Do keep up,I mentioned this last month here on this forum!:p:


http://www.overnights.tv/public/content/News.aspx

denphone 10-01-2013 11:37
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Sky Atlantic ventures into The Tunnel

http://skyatlantic.sky.com/the-tunne...unnel?DCMP=SNT

muppetman11 10-01-2013 12:31
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Sounds interesting , another one for never miss :D

Mick Fisher 10-01-2013 17:27
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35521424)
Sky Atlantic ventures into The Tunnel

http://skyatlantic.sky.com/the-tunne...unnel?DCMP=SNT
That appears to be something to look forward to :)

I always enjoy a good serial killer whodunit :D

Tezcatlipoca 10-01-2013 20:59
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
I recommend the original series it's based upon: The Bridge. Very good. I think it was on BBC4.

Mick Fisher 10-01-2013 21:12
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35521704)
I recommend the original series it's based upon: The Bridge. Very good. I think it was on BBC4.
I watched that, it was excellent.

Hard to see how it could be bettered.

muppetman11 13-01-2013 09:59
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BBC One Scotland HD to launch on Sky on the 14th January with BBC One Wales HD launching on the 29th January , BBC One Scotland HD and BBC One Wales HD will take over from BBC One HD in the electronic programme guide (EPG) for viewers in Scotland and Wales on the date of launch.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/abouttheb...C-One-Wales-HD

colin25 13-01-2013 10:41
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Cheers muppetman (i was tempted to use the shorter more familiar "muppet", but thought that sounded derogatory :D)

ahmedahmed 14-01-2013 06:41
sky with virgin phone line
 
[SIZE="5"]HI,
I have virging media phone line and brodband only, and buy sky + hd box without card for only watching free channels , living in block of flats n has tv socket in my flat.
please guide me what should i do for free sky channels .
many regards

nstokes 14-01-2013 09:06
Re: sky with virgin phone line
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmedahmed (Post 35522849)
[SIZE="5"]HI,
I have virging media phone line and brodband only, and buy sky + hd box without card for only watching free channels , living in block of flats n has tv socket in my flat.
please guide me what should i do for free sky channels .
many regards
You will need to ring Sky to get a FSFS card to get Freesat channels from Sky. Its £20 for the card and gets FTA channels

muppetman11 17-01-2013 20:59
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
More 4 HD now in full testing on Sky

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...0&postcount=11

nstokes 17-01-2013 21:03
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35524454)
More 4 HD now in full testing on Sky

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...0&postcount=11
Thats great new MM. Hopefully not long till launch

muppetman11 17-01-2013 22:00
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Anyone tried the NBA in 3D tonight ? Pretty impressive in my opinion.

Chad 17-01-2013 22:22
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35524469)
Anyone tried the NBA in 3D tonight ? Pretty impressive in my opinion.
Just gave it a try. The light reflecting on the blue floor of the court really pops out. Also when the action stops, and the camera is showing the arena, things like the scoreboard hanging from the roof and the basket really come out of the screen.

It's pretty good however the commentary is not to my taste :td:

muppetman11 17-01-2013 22:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35524473)
It's pretty good however the commentary is not to my taste :td:
Never works does it , Brits commentating on US sports.

Chad 17-01-2013 23:07
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35524481)
Never works does it , Brits commentating on US sports.
It's like putting brown sauce on a Hot Dog :shocked:

---------- Post added at 22:07 ---------- Previous post was at 21:43 ----------

Been with SKY for less than a week and managed to score free cinema tickets for The Last Stand this Monday. It would have cost us £16 to buy the tickets. Well chuffed.

nstokes 18-01-2013 09:43
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35524482)
Been with SKY for less than a week and managed to score free cinema tickets for The Last Stand this Monday. It would have cost us £16 to buy the tickets. Well chuffed.
I also like the rewards, its a nice touch from Sky to give there customers free cinema tickets

Media Boy UK 18-01-2013 12:33
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35524457)
Thats great new MM. Hopefully not long till launch
DS Forum is reporting that More4 HD may launch on Sky next week.

Mick Fisher 18-01-2013 16:22
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35524592)
DS Forum is reporting that More4 HD may launch on Sky next week.
:tu:

Doz007 20-01-2013 12:10
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35524482)
Been with SKY for less than a week and managed to score free cinema tickets for The Last Stand this Monday. It would have cost us £16 to buy the tickets. Well chuffed.
This is another great but often over looked perk of being a Sky customer! :)

How are you finding Sky after the first week Chad?

muppetman11 20-01-2013 13:14
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Looks like the Sky+ apps more advanced features are edging even closer too being deployed on Android.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...3&postcount=54

Chad 20-01-2013 14:02
Re: General Sky TV Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35525202)
This is another great but often over looked perk of being a Sky customer! :)

How are you finding Sky after the first week Chad?
TV is great so far. I'm learning to live with 2 tuners, which isn't as bad as I first thought. Plenty of +1 channels and SKY catch up means there hasn't been a recording clash yet. I however do miss the search and wishlist functions of TiVo.

SKY broadband has been the big surprise so far. My download speed as of today is now 14.5 mb. Yes it's slower than my 100mb connect with Virgin however I am beginning to learn speed isn't everything. It's great to have a connection that isn't managed in anyway. I know what speed I'm going to get 24/7 regardless of what I'm downloading, when I'm downloading and regardless how much I'm downloading. It puts me in mind of when I had Virgins truely unlimited and unshaped 20mb connection about 4 years ago.

I'm also finding SKY's broadband more stable, especially wi-fi. I invested in a Smart TV about 8 weeks ago. When trying to watch Youtube, Lovefilm or Blinkbox through the TV via my Virgin internet sometimes I couldn't connect to the sites or the video play would stutter or buffer. I've not had this problem with my SKY broadband so far. The other day I was playing Mario Kart online, downloading Eddie Murphy RAW to my SKY+ box, running Utorrent on my PC whilst my wife surfed the web. No problems at all.

Through my friends and family deal my broadband is costing £3.75 per month or £45.00 per year. Seriously good value for almost 15mb with no download limits.

muppetman11 20-01-2013 14:26
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35525241)
TV is great so far. I'm learning to live with 2 tuners, which isn't as bad as I first thought. Plenty of +1 channels and SKY catch up means there hasn't been a recording clash yet. I however do miss the search and wishlist functions of TiVo.

SKY broadband has been the big surprise so far. My download speed as of today is now 14.5 mb. Yes it's slower than my 100mb connect with Virgin however I am beginning to learn speed isn't everything. It's great to have a connection that isn't managed in anyway. I know what speed I'm going to get 24/7 regardless of what I'm downloading, when I'm downloading and regardless how much I'm downloading. It puts me in mind of when I had Virgins truely unlimited and unshaped 20mb connection about 4 years ago.

I'm also finding SKY's broadband more stable, especially wi-fi. I invested in a Smart TV about 8 weeks ago. When trying to watch Youtube, Lovefilm or Blinkbox through the TV via my Virgin internet sometimes I couldn't connect to the sites or the video play would stutter or buffer. I've not had this problem with my SKY broadband so far. The other day I was playing Mario Kart online, downloading Eddie Murphy RAW to my SKY+ box, running Utorrent on my PC whilst my wife surfed the web. No problems at all.

All in I'm not regretting my move at all. The wife misses not being able to watch catch-up in the bedroom however that isn't going to be a problem for much longer ;)
Do you have an Android mobile or iPhone or tablet ? If so you can download quite a few decent apps , Sky Cloud Wifi gives you free Wifi at thousands of locations thanks to being a Sky BB subscriber.
http://www.sky.com/mysky/makethemost/sky-apps/

Sky never miss is also a useful feature if you check your email daily , likewise the Green remind me button what appears on certain promos for shows allows you to press Green and select a reminder or setup a series link for that particular show.

nstokes 20-01-2013 14:31
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35525251)
Do you have an Android mobile or iPhone or tablet ? If so you can download quite a few decent apps , Sky Cloud Wifi gives you free Wifi at thousands of locations thanks to being a Sky BB subscriber.
http://www.sky.com/mysky/makethemost/sky-apps/

Sky never miss is also a useful feature if you check your email daily , likewise the Green remind me button what appears on certain promos for shows allows you to press Green and select a reminder or setup a series link for that particular show.
Sky Wifi cloud is great. Thinks will be better when the Sky+ app updates come to Android and from the link MM posted its getting closer, i cant wait for that. Sky go Extra looks good as well

Chad 20-01-2013 14:40
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Thanks for the information guys. I'm now going to have a little rant :D

People have mentioned that when my 50% friends and family deal runs out in 12 months then my package might not be attractive. I agree however right now I feel more valued by SKY than I did with Virgin. I'd been with Telewest / Virgin for about 10 years. Since Virgin launched I've pretty much had their VIP package plus 2 mobile phones. I'm certain Virgin would have classed me as a high end or high spending customer. When I received my price increase letter in December I was actually only 2 months into a new 12 month deal due to changes I made to my package at the end of October. I called Virgin to tell them I wasn't happy and that I planned to change provider. I then called back 48 hours later to cancel explaining the deal I had managed to get via SKY. Virgin had the oppertunity to show how much they valued my loyalty and custom by matching the offer from SKY but they didn't. Virgin would rather lose me as a customer than match a rivals price. Both my mobile deals are up next month too. As I won't get a customer dicount anymore their deals aren't as impressive. The wife and I will be switching mobile provider. Virgin where getting about £1960 from me annually, from next month they will be getting zero.

muppetman11 20-01-2013 14:50
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If your looking for new mobiles I'd certainly recommend iPhone or newer Android handsets as these will be the first to get developed for , and I'm sure there's many innovations on the way from Sky in the mobile arena , the Nexus 7 got Sky Go and is also excellent value for a 7" tablet if your ever in the market for a tablet.

colin25 20-01-2013 14:52
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S3 is a nice phone..heard good things about it.

I have galaxy nexus, and soon to have nexus 4, mainly as I like the vanilla version of android.

nstokes 20-01-2013 14:58
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Also Samsung Galaxy S3 works with Sky Go ;)

Doz007 20-01-2013 16:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35525241)
I however do miss the search and wishlist functions of TiVo.

SKY broadband has been the big surprise so far. My download speed as of today is now 14.5 mb. Yes it's slower than my 100mb connect with Virgin however I am beginning to learn speed isn't everything. It's great to have a connection that isn't managed in anyway. I know what speed I'm going to get 24/7 regardless of what I'm downloading, when I'm downloading and regardless how much I'm downloading. It puts me in mind of when I had Virgins truely unlimited and unshaped 20mb connection about 4 years ago.
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35525251)
Sky never miss is also a useful feature if you check your email daily , likewise the Green remind me button what appears on certain promos for shows allows you to press Green and select a reminder or setup a series link for that particular show.
I know that I keep banging the Nevermiss drum but it really is massively under rated & the best way to discover new content months in advance! It also has a list of the most popular shows on the service so that you can easily find shows that others are enjoying!

Nevermiss is Sky's equivalent of TiVo's search & wish list functionality. Sky themselves just don't seem to realise it's importance!

nstokes 20-01-2013 16:50
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Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35525313)
I know that I keep banging the Nevermiss drum but it really is massively under rated & the best way to discover new content months in advance! It also has a list of the most popular shows on the service so that you can easily find shows that others are enjoying!

Nevermiss is Sky's equivalent of TiVo's search & wish list functionality. Sky themselves just don't seem to realise it's importance!
I agree and hopefully it will come to the STB's at some point to make it even better

muppetman11 20-01-2013 17:08
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I like how it automatically emails you for every new season of the show you've selected , its also good that you can select previous seasons I got upto scratch with Blue Bloods this way.

spiderplant 20-01-2013 18:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35525259)
Virgin would rather lose me as a customer than match a rivals price.
In other words: "Virgin would rather lose me as a customer than make a loss on me".

Imagine if they had agreed to price match. You'd have been straight on here saying "All you need to do is tell them you've been offered a Sky F&F deal, and they'll halve your bill". Then everybody would be doing the same.

That's the kind of silliness that plagued ntl. Thankfully no more.

Chad 20-01-2013 20:37
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35525345)
In other words: "Virgin would rather lose me as a customer than make a loss on me".
You raise an interesting point. Clearly you have some kind of knowledge in this area.

What can you share with us in terms of Virgins profits margins? For example the VIP Collection is currently £113.99 per month. How much of the £113.99 does Virgin see as a profit? It would be interesting to see how much Virgin would actually lose by offering to match my SKY package. How low can Virgin go before it's not worth their while?

Hugh 20-01-2013 20:42
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It's not that simple.

If there is a customer acquisition drive (to meet a quarter's numbers) is on, and ARPU is ahead of target, VM may be willing to be more flexible. If they are on target for customer numbers, less flexibility is needed.

And as we have seen on here, social networking adds a new dimension to discounts - if people get discount, they often talk about it on forums, then others ring up asking for that discount, and if they don't get it, complain on the forum and perhaps churn due to their dissatisfaction; so, one happy customer who got a discount, perhaps dozens of unhappy customers who didn't....

Turnover is vanity, profit is sanity.

Chad 20-01-2013 20:59
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35525410)
It's not that simple.

If there is a customer acquisition drive (to meet a quarter's numbers) is on, and ARPU is ahead of target, VM may be willing to be more flexible. If they are on target for customer numbers, less flexibility is needed.

And as we have seen on here, social networking adds a new dimension to discounts - if people get discount, they often talk about in on forums, then others ring up asking for that discount, and if they don't get it, complain on the forum and perhaps churn due to their dissatisfaction; so, one happy customer who got a discount, perhaps dozens of unhappy customers who didn't....

Turnover is vanity, profit is sanity.
Ah I see, can't argue with your logic.

I would still like to know however how much of a loss Virgin would be making on me if they offered to match the price from SKY.

colin25 20-01-2013 21:04
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35525416)
Ah I see, can't argue with your logic.

I would still like to know however how much of a loss Virgin would be making on me if they offered to match the price from SKY.
If you knew that, you would tell someone else, and then the deal would be off because everyone wants it.

Virgin can at times sell at a temporary loss, if it generates higher customer base. they can't sustain that. So at times they might offer deals that cuts profit margins. Likelihood is they are feeling the pinch, sky must have hurt them somewhat for tv and broadband, and equally BT for broadband.

Chad 20-01-2013 21:13
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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35525425)
If you knew that, you would tell someone else, and then the deal would be off because everyone wants it.

Virgin can at times sell at a temporary loss, if it generates higher customer base. they can't sustain that. So at times they might offer deals that cuts profit margins. Likelihood is they are feeling the pinch, sky must have hurt them somewhat for tv and broadband, and equally BT for broadband.
I just wanted to if Virgin really would make a loss matching SKY, and if so how much? Spiderplant must know or he wouldn't have posted. I'm just trying to see if he'll share some further info with us.

It would also be interesting to see just how low SKY would go too. They where offering 75% rebate for ex-customers to go back. A guy from my work is paying about £30.00 per month for SKY world, SKY unlimited broadband and SKY phoneline rental.

Hugh 20-01-2013 23:14
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Unless spiderplant works in the Finance, Marketing, or Strategic Planning areas of VM, he is unlikely to know that info.

And even if he did, he would probably get fired for releasing commercially sensitive information if he discussed it on a public forum - if VM's suppliers / competitors knew VM's margin, that would be sub-optimal when negotiating....

spiderplant 21-01-2013 00:12
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VM's overall margins are in the public domain. http://www.google.co.uk/finance?cid=695833

It's fairly clear a 50% cut in revenue would be unsustainable.

bubblegun 21-01-2013 00:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35525430)
I just wanted to if Virgin really would make a loss matching SKY, and if so how much? Spiderplant must know or he wouldn't have posted. I'm just trying to see if he'll share some further info with us.

It would also be interesting to see just how low SKY would go too. They where offering 75% rebate for ex-customers to go back. A guy from my work is paying about £30.00 per month for SKY world, SKY unlimited broadband and SKY phoneline rental.
Sky are going to stop doing these offers in the next few months as they were causing churn issues when the campaigns were running.

They are seemingly going to go for 18 months without the huge discounts to see how the business performs. They apparently believe the competition will stop discounting so much if they do too.

About a quarter of the retention department already have a top discount of 10% off tv for 12 months and the rest is being moved to this between now and September.

Chad 21-01-2013 02:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubblegun (Post 35525505)
Sky are going to stop doing these offers in the next few months as they were causing churn issues when the campaigns were running.

They are seemingly going to go for 18 months without the huge discounts to see how the business performs. They apparently believe the competition will stop discounting so much if they do too.

About a quarter of the retention department already have a top discount of 10% off tv for 12 months and the rest is being moved to this between now and September.
That's pretty interesting stuff. I was hoping that the summer months would start a price / discount war between SKY, BT and Virgin. I just can't see the 3 of them coexisting offering similar packages at similar prices.

Hugh 21-01-2013 10:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35525499)
VM's overall margins are in the public domain. http://www.google.co.uk/finance?cid=695833

It's fairly clear a 50% cut in revenue would be unsustainable.
sp, I was meaning package/service margins, rather than gross - sorry if I wasn't clear.

Qtx 21-01-2013 13:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35525513)
That's pretty interesting stuff. I was hoping that the summer months would start a price / discount war between SKY, BT and Virgin. I just can't see the 3 of them coexisting offering similar packages at similar prices.
Maybe this is why Virgin are reorganising their TV packages at the moment. Might be an indication of trying to get tv packages to entice customers back.

muppetman11 21-01-2013 20:14
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35524592)
DS Forum is reporting that More4 HD may launch on Sky next week.
overnights.tv is reporting that More 4 HD will launch and start BARB reporting on Monday 4th February

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...5&postcount=44

nstokes 21-01-2013 20:19
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35525724)
overnights.tv is reporting that More 4 HD will launch and start BARB reporting on Monday 4th February

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...5&postcount=44
Nice one MM

denphone 21-01-2013 20:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35525724)
overnights.tv is reporting that More 4 HD will launch and start BARB reporting on Monday 4th February

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...5&postcount=44
Nicey nice.:)


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