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Valencia puts Man Utd one up against Otelul Galati.


Yaya Toure puts Man City 1 up against Villarreal.

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Champions League scores

Ajax4-0Dinamo Zagreb
Bayern Munich3-2Napoli
Benfica1-1FC Basel
Inter Milan2-1Lille
Lyon0-2Real Madrid
Man Utd2-0Otelul Galati
Trabzonspor0-0CSKA Moscow
Villarreal0-3Man City


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9630256.stm

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Games in Europe involving English sides seem to be very poor this year.

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Yes l am not sure whether we are going to see a English side in the final this year as they seem to be either rebuilding or lack strength in depth.

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I don't know. Dortmund vs Arsenal, Arsenal vs Olympiakos and Munich vs City were all good games.

Best game thus far this season, that I have seen, is Chelsea vs Arsenal. Last season Barcelona vs Real Madrid (the 5 - 1).

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Agreed Damien, Chelsea and Arsenal was fantastic, Yes those games were good but I mean generally there is no atmosphere at the European games and most of the games are played like training games.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...-heart-surgery


Lets hope he recovers fully quickly and make a quick return to the game.

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Europa League Results


Rubin Kazan 1 Tottenham 0
Maccabi Tel Aviv 1 Stoke 2
Fulham 4 Wisla Krakow 1
Birmingham 2 Club Brugge 2
Celtic 3 Rennes 1
Shamrock Rovers 1 PAOK 3
Copenhagen 1 Hannover 2
Vorskla 1 Standard Liege 3
L Warsaw 3 R Bucharest 1
PSV 3 Hapoel Tel-Aviv 3
Vaslui 1 Sporting Lisbon 0
Lazio 1 FC Zurich 0
Besiktas 1 Dynamo Kiev 0
PSG 1 Slovan Bratislava 0
Salzburg 0 Athletic Bilbao 1
Austria Vienna 2 AZ 2
Metalist Kharkiv 3 Malmo 1
Braga 5 Maribor 1
Atletico Madrid 4 Udinese 0
S Bucharest 4 M Haifa 2
Schalke 0 AEK Larnaca 0
FC Twente 3 Odense 2
AEK Athens 1 L Moscow 3
Anderlecht 3 Sturm Graz

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http://www.sportinglife.com/football...0.html&BID=165





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http://www.sportinglife.com/football...4.html&BID=165

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...io-Goetze.html

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Newcastle go one up against Everton with a heitiinga own goal.

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To me the FA are a bunch of old foggies and its farcical.

One they are appealing against the three match ban for a red card on Ronney, and now they have allowed Terry into the England squad, despite the racism comment he has made.

Once again IF these two players were from the lower leagues, everything would be happening to them.

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Ryan Taylor has now put Newcastle 2-0 up against Everton in the early game and yet Pardew at the start of the season was considered one of the favourites to get the boot.

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Jack Rodwell has now pulled the score back to 2-1 right on half time.

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For years Liverpool fans around here have accused Man United fans of being glory hunters and not supporting their local team.

So the double standards are well in force today as the Swans travel to Anfield today...

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Well l am not going to lie as l support 2 teams and they are Plymouth Argyle and Liverpool and l have supported both since l was a young nipper.

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Manchester United have renamed the North Stand at Old Trafford the 'Sir Alex Ferguson stand' in tribute to his 25 years at the club.

Nice tribute that, although it's a shame to place it somewhere few United fans visit :D

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Its that man RVP again as Arsenal go one up against WBA.

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One man definitely feeling the pressure is Alex Mcleish as Villa are losing 1-0 at home to Norwich.

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Not foe though as they soon equalise through Bent making it 1-1

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Denphone, there are a lot of games each week, you don't need to update us for each and every goal :D.

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l will just give the full time scores in future with a link provided as l do not want to irritate people.:)

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unless your fan watching a game?

2-0 TOMMMMYYYYY VERRRRRRMAELENNNNNN :D

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Meh. When we're 4 - 0 up I'll relax.



Although that's what I said during the Newcastle last year...

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Interesting stat seen earlier, when SAF took over 25 years ago the bottom 4 were Chelsea. Man City, Newcastle and Man Utd.....

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And who was top.:)

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Come on Swansea, do Arsenal a favour! If you take some points off Liverpool I'll never make another joke about the Welsh for as long as this day takes to end.

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Turns out the Welsh are great! GO WALES!

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Premier league full time scores


Arsenal3-0West Brom
Aston Villa3-2Norwich
Blackburn0-1Chelsea
Liverpool0-0Swansea
Man Utd1-0Sunderland
Newcastle2-1Everton

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9630954.stm

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looks like i'm for relegation on Arsenal-Lands prediction league :(

On a more positive note, 3 bloody nil to the Arsenal :D

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Yes a good result for the gunners but a poor result by my team.:(

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Very impressive (and surprising!) result for the Swans!

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Wait till you see the highlights denphone, cracking match. Swansea goalkeeper was excellent.

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Yes on SSN they said he was excellent but its another 2 points dropped again.

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City won 3-2 lol and i got my prediction spot on :D was an alright game to watch as a neutral ;)

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Yes l really enjoyed the game and City just about deserved to win.

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*cough* Racist comment he allegedly made *cough*

If the FA want to take the moral high ground about respect etc. they would take the punishment although if they were from the lower leagues it's highly likely they wouldn't be in the England squad. ;)

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It's strange that he is allowed to play for England after what happened with Ferdinand and again with Alan Smith a few years ago.

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Not just that, but if every misdemeanour a player committed resulted in them being considered unsuitable to be England captain, it is difficult to see who you could give it to.

Ferdinand with the drug test missing, there was that incident with Gerrard assaulting someone in a night club, Lampard isn't good enough (without dropping Gerrard as they are too similar), there's all this about Rooney's private life... you can't really give it to a keeper because they're too distant from the play and the rest are too inexperienced or less guaranteed of a first team place. The best candidate from the rest is probably Gareth Barry, on those grounds...

It's like when they took the captaincy off Terry over the whole Wayne Bridge thing, and gave it to Ferdinand... if you're going to remove it for off-field stuff, don't give it to someone who also has, uhh, off-field stuff.

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*cough Peter Shilton ;)

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Thr trouble with Gareth Barry as captain is he is not good enough to play for England.:(

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He is, I don't see who else we have in defensive midfield who is better? He's playing first choice for the side top of the league.
There is always the odd exception - Schmeichel was another. Dino Zoff and Andoni Zubizaretta were also captains, I think Casillas captains Spain, it's just not ideal. Our keeper is our vice-captain as well (Lee Camp).

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Well if its the Gareth Barry who played against Germany when we lost 4-1 he obviously had no clue how to play the defensive midfielder role.:)

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Rinat Dasaev, Lev Yashin, Dmitri Kharin, Oliver Kahn?

Being team captain isn't limited to what happens on the pitch. Any team who only has one organiser on the park isn't going to win very much.

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England squad:

Goalkeepers
Scott Carson (Bursapor), Joe Hart (Manchester City), David Stockdale (Ipswich Town - loan from Fulham)

Defenders
Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Bolton Wanderers), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Joleon Lescott (Manchester City), John Terry (Chelsea), Kyle Walker (Tottenham Hotspur)

Midfielders
Gareth Barry (Manchester City), Stewart Downing (Liverpool), Adam Johnson (Manchester City), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Manchester City), Scott Parker (Tottenham Hotspur), Jack Rodwell (Everton), Theo Walcott (Arsenal)

Forwards
Gabby Agbonlahor (Aston Villa), Darren Bent (Aston Villa), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea), Danny Welbeck (Manchester United), Bobby Zamora (Fulham)

Who out of those - assuming it will not be Terry - would make a decent captain?

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Parker?

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It would be Lampard.

Its strange Micah Richards isn't in the squad, he's been playing well recently, better than Glen Johnson.

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not a great line up up front. Not a fan of Wellbeck and to be honest all the others listed are a bit hit and miss as well.

I do wonder where our next batch of strikers will come from

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Arsenal :D

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Where are the world class forwards.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15668207.stm

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And a way round the UEFA fair play rules ;)

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Yes and l suspect many more will follow including my side.:)

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Or ruins one of the most iconic stadiums in English football that has been standing for 100 years. there would be a public outcry if they decided to rename Old Trafford so this should be no different.

However a good season could fix this. If the impossible happens and Newcastle make it into Europe I feel we may re-generate interest in buying the club. At the minute we can only hope most major sponsors have the same stance Adidas did and refuse to touch it.

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i bet the Geordies will not be happy about it

will he be known as the worst newcastle owner of all time?

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and i bet the glazers are planning exatly that :D

plus chelsea is doing the same thing as well

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I can now discuss this seeing as I no longer work for the company concerned.

I hinted at this happening several months ago but couldn't say anything due to the amount of money Ashley was spending with my previous employer.

Next time you get a dug-out shot at St James' Sports Direct whatever stadium, have a look at the seats. Not usually for a premiership club, all the dug-out seats are Recaro Speed seats (ones found in Honda Civic Type-R, out of interest). They're done out in club colours, again not usual for a football team.

Now where Newcastle's differ slightly is that during the summer they wanted the seats changed a little. Once again, clubs often make improvements and amendments to the stadium during the off-season but this time Ashley wanted a dramatic change. He wanted us to replace all the seats with new ones and retrim them in club colours but with the SportsDirect.com logo below the club's crest. The idea being of course that when you get a dug-out shot, behind the players you'll see the website advertised.

Only thing is, we did the job and sent the seats up to SJ'sP but Mike Ashley wasn't happy. He felt the club logo was to distracting from the website logo so he returned the seats to us to have them retrimmed again (remember this is top-grade leather and we're talking 12-14 seats) but with the club crest removed and the SportsDirect.com made bigger.

OK it's his club and he can spend whatever he wants (I'm not going to say how much it cost but we're talking 5 figures) on promoting his other business venture but that feels like such a sell-out.

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There are some strong rumours that Harry Redknapp is going to retire from football this afternoon...

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Well at the end of the day a person's health and their family is the most important thing and everything else is of secondary importance.

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Seems that may be wrong. Hes facing trial for 2 charges of cheating public revenue.

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Cracking result! Looks like Speed really is the man for the job after all :)

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Yes it is 4-1

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15589976.stm

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Lampard 1-0 :D

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15693231.stm


Number one side in the world now.;)

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England beat world champions at football and rugby league last night.

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McLaren has stated today on Sky Sports that there is big difference between Premier League footballers and European Footballers.

Yes, Premier League footballers are a bunch of pansies, and are only bothered about the money and combing there hair and not about performing well.

European footballers play with passion, and love football.

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But aren't a lot of Premier League footballers European?

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l am sorry Arthur but have you been watching football lately.:rolleyes:

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Does that mean that we're not part of Europe anymore???? :wtf:

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Yes, I suspect McLaren (If Arthur quoted correctly) meant a large difference between English players and continental European players. Which is mostly true. European players tend to have a far better technical ability and are a better ability to read the game. English players tend to focus on strength and speed.

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Unbelievable, The Ashley storm had sort of calmed until this guy ran a mock. Now brings into question, who the hell is running this club? Llambias seems to have a huge mouth and seems to be the one pulling strings.

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This saturday will be interesting for me - for the first time in my life I will be anti-Man United :D

Come on Swans, beat the Manc ****!! :D

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Which is why he failed at Forest because he was trying to make the players play a more intelligent, continental style and they weren't clever enough.

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Ouch. Germany-Holland 3-0, and it could have been a LOT worse...

Germany looking very tasty ahead of Euro 2012.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15709627.stm

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I think time now has to be called on Rio Ferdinands England career. And there also has to be doubt's with John Terry and even Steven Gerrard. JT's pace has gone completely and I am afraid Stevie G is becoming injury prone.

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This is classic?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15757165.stm

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Even by his standards what he has said is outrageous.

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they get away with murder. reading stuff like that puts you off watching footy but such is the culture and 'passion' you get drawn back in so again, they get away with murder!

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But we didn't field our strongest team as from what i have read

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Yeah, we missed Robben, v. Persie, Affelay and v.d. Vaart. But Germany really were miles better. Still, it's only a friendly, and hopefully it'll give them a bit of a wakeup call.

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Very true and this is good from James Pearce.

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Luis Suarez has been charged and innocent until proven guilty and the same goes for John Terry.

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Yes thats right but the trouble in this country we have trial by tabloid and the media finds them guilty even before a case is heard.

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can someone chage Blatter with being an idiot ?

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And I suppose the bananas that get thrown at black players are provided by fans who are concerned about footballers' nutritional well-being.

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I did not mean anything in that way shape or form. All I was just saying that this was a major gaffe in respect to Sepp. If you want to read any more in to it that is your opinion.

I now am feeling that I'am doing wrong by posting things on this forum

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This is what is wrong with football, and all this respect is total crap.

And going on about this English and European players, with European stuff, its skillful; football, with English football, all they have to do is blow the opponent over and they win an Oscar for diving.

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It's actually a really interesting question, that of why English do not produce many technical players. Lots of interesting theories which hold up quite well.

Scholes and Wilshere are probably the most technically gifted midfielders we have produced in recent years. The less said about Stephen 'Hollywood Pass' Gerrard the better.

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Oh get over yourself, I was clearly referring to what Blatter was saying.

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Some people take offence to what people imply. Also I will never get over myself and if that is the way you feel just ban me from this forum as I have done nothing wrong. I can not understand what I have done to offend you or your senses?

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The fact you get players in spain admiring Le Tissier, Xavi said he was his hero growing up, a player who in England is deemed lazy and got a whole 8 caps. In Spain they would have built the team round him.

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A lot of the reason we do not produce the more technical player is because the way our youngsters are brought up. In Italy, Spain and most other countries when a parent drops there child off at football training they are then banned from watching the game. In England we have parents shouting at the kids saying 'run you lazy so an so', 'do him' and so forth where everything is orientated to fitness and winning the game. Kids don't need to be told to run, they need to be told to hold the ball, look for the open man, not to be afraid at trying something in the game without being worried about getting abuse from there team mates and adults watching the game.

I was a manager of a under 12 team about 15 years ago. We won games 4-0 or 5-0. My best game was when we lost 1-0, we played wonderful one touch football in triangles, touch and move giving the player on the ball 2 choices at all times to pass. I was sacked. The same is happening to arsene wenger.

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Also I am now thinking that even if John Terry and Louis Suarez have done nothing, because of the current climate it may now be impossible for them to receive a fair hearing and will get very large bans from football.

I hope that this does not encourage players with no morales to make allegations just to get rid of opponents best players.

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l am a great admirer of Arsene Wenger's technical play and l certainly don't think he will get the sack but he might leave at his own fruition sometime in the future.

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Yes, this certainly seems to be part of the problem. There is an additional factor that I find fascinating however. That is of the preference for fast, strong players over skilled ones - it's also a possible reason why, for the most part, creative play makers send to be relatively short (Wilshere, Scholes, Xavi, Modric).

The theory goes like this: When children are young the differences in strength, speed and height make bigger differences. Especially in football where it takes many years to be adept with the ball, the tall strong and fast players seem to be better. In youth football there is a far greater importance attached to the act of winning and the competition than abroad, this is highlighted in the examples of you gave of parents living veraciously through their childrens' footballing achievements.

All this means that when it comes to grassroots football the players who are picked to be coached, to play in teams, are the ones who are strong, tall, and/or fast. They are picked because they will win. There is no point perfecting the perfect pass if you can run knock it past a rival and run onto the ball, there is no point being skilled in possession when you can muscle players off the ball and so on. Importantly, their ability to play without much in the way of technical skill means that this isn't practised as much and isn't used in competitive matches. This creates a dangerous loop whereby these players get more gametime, more practise, and more coaching time. They become the next generation of England U16 and U21 players, and this reinforces the perception that these players are the better ones to pick and so the cycle continues.

This explains why England (and France btw, but they noticed this problem a few years ago and took action to remedy it) do so well at the under 16, and under 21 level but never seem to do well at the top level. Their physical advantage makes a difference as they bulldoze their way through the smaller, technical better teams like Spain with sheer pace and strength when they are young. However as those teams grow up and the physical advantage becomes less important it fast becomes obvious that those teams can play football and we can't!.

In summary: Our culture prioritises winning too much with encourages the selection and training of players who win while their young but whose advantages then become less important when they become adults. Whereas South American and some European cultures have a love of technique and creativity which is established in players at the youngest age.

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:D

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...unners-gallery

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...s-with-arsenal

hope Wenger signs him on loan. he may be old but he's still got something to offer :D

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Really torn about saturday's match :D

Excellent quote from BBC Radio Wales' sports phone-in, when the presenter asked a caller "How will it feel to watch Wayne Rooney play at the Liberty?", the caller replied "I'll be going along to watch the Swans, not Wayne Rooney" :D

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Would be great to see him back with you :)

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Why, are Arsenal starting a Handball team now.:rolleyes::D

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cos he's an Arsenal and EPL legend...

@Orbinho says, "Thierry Henry the only player in Premier League history to score more than 20 goals in five consecutive seasons",

"Thierry Henry who holds the record for most Premier League assists in a single season - 20 in 2002-03".

@Zonal_Marking adds "Henry won the PL Golden Boot four times, Football Writers' POTY three times, was in Team of the Year six times, PFA POTY twice".

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Your avatar is very apt, just can't keep his hands off the ball can he. :p: :)

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LOL! :D

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Even with one leg he would be better then the overrated and on loan to Sunderland Bendtner.:D

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he owns it :D

yup. benders all ego

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15722636.stm



Not sure l want the return of these terrible artificial pitches.:(

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Can't wait for Swansea's first big match of the season tomorrow :)

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Got a feeling this is going to be a bloodbath but COME ON SWANS!!