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Nah, they are not that good, watched it tonight, only downside is that I will be getting a gloating PM from Donnies fan, Proppinupthebar over at Chetnet. :( It was bad enough when Doncaster beat the Latics at Boundary Park a couple of weeks ago.

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Only on the way to set fire to Villa Park :fit:

Can somebody explain why, when the two strikers you've got on aren't scoring, you shift to 4-3-3? We should have taken one of them off and stuct at 4-4-2, seeing most of our goals come from midfield anyway :shrug:

Having said that, congrats to Donnie 'cos they played us off the park, and Thorntons goal was an absolute screamer (lucky deflection aside ;) ). I hope that they get a good draw that gets them some cash now :tu:

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Missed the match... quite glad I did now.

Dreary has got to go.... along with Deadly Doug.

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<Panic Mode>

Is Man Utd's game V West Brom on TV tonight anyone, I can't find it anywhere.

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highlights on ITV1 23.30 is all I can find, yesman - unless they show anything on the Gillette thingy Sky Sports 1 ???

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Thanks Gaz :tu:

I was hoping it might be on live, oh well, such is life......

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showed the tribute and that was all

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Actually, that was what I wanted to see, I wasn't bothered about the match so much, and as you said sky showed the tribute to George :tu:

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Can someone explain to me how FA rules work? First of all the FA say they can't investigate Shearer's elbow on Weir as the ref dealt with the matter, even though he admitted not seeing the elbow. Then only a couple of hours later they charge Cahill and Babayaro with violent conduct even though the ref clearly dealt with that incident at the time. Is there some sort immunity clause for ex England captains?

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the way this works is all down to the FIFA rules, although if you go to the FIFA website and look up the rules of the game this bit isn't meantioned

if the ref deals with an incident or mentions it in his match report, i.e the ref can miss something watch it on TV afterwards and include it in his report, then the FA can't take any action..

not read the full details of both cases but i read for the Shearer one that the ref mentioned the incident in his report

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Yes but he didn't see the elbow making contact. He also dealt with the handbags as he spoke to both playes. Whats the difference?

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well we are dealing with the FA and referress here so don't expect any consistancy

i think it is to do with what the ref puts in his offical report at the end of the match where they have had a chance to see the match on TV afterwards.. they can then mention things they missed in the game but saw later

as you point out it doesn't seem to make alot of sense really and hinders the FA from taking action in cases where they should because of the stupid FIFA rules

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Apparently this is Makelele's brief for the Newcastle match. Makes interesting reading.


http://www.badongo.com/file.php?file...19-11-2005.pdf

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The Nevillier is the new club captain. Good choice if you ask me.

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Bolton certainly have come on leaps and bounds...

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So have chester by the looks of things :(

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FA Cup 3rd round draw:

West Bromwich Albion v Reading
Fulham v Leyton Orient
Brighton v Coventry
Wolves v Plymouth
Port Vale or Bristol Rovers v Boston/Doncaster
Sheff Wed v Charlton
Torquay v Birmingham
Man City v Scunthorpe
Newcastle v Mansfield
Luton v Liverpool
Preston v Crewe
Stoke v Tamworth
Derby v Burnley
Southampton v MK Dons
Blackburn v QPR
Arsenal v Cardiff
Stockport v Oldham/Brentford
Norwich v West Ham
Ipswich v Portsmouth
Wigan v Leeds
Sunderland v Woking/Northwich Victoria
Chelsea v Huddersfield
Cheltenham Town/Oxford United v Chester City
Leicester v Tottenham
Watford v Bolton
Sheffield United v Colchester United
Nuneaton/Histon v Middlesbrough
Hull v Aston Villa
Barnsley/Bradford v Walsall
Burton/Burscough v Manchester United
Crystal Palace v Stevenage/Northampton
Millwall v Everton

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Wow we got a jackpot draw :)

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so did we :erm:

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Could anybody in the Newcastle area send me a PM when Barrys penalty finally comes down?

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Gazza only managed 39 days then

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...nf/4500388.stm

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have now heard off Sky Sports News that Gazza himself said he is still at the club and will now try and buy out the current owner

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Things getting worse for Gazza

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...de/4501974.stm

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Another one going down the George Best route. It's about time the clown woke up and took a look at himself.

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Gazza has the same problem george had an addictive personality that means he can't stop drinking no matter how he tries.. that and having to cope with the fact that he has just lost a good friend of his and learning to cope with not being a top line footballer anymore is all too much for him at the moment.. just shows that even though times have moved on we still can't help these people any more than we could do in george's day

Saw an interview with gazza on Sky Sports news where he said he would still turn up and do his job.. although even during that interview he sounded like he had had a drink or too

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I get the impression that Gazza is very child like. He had a lot of bad infulences in his life - five-bellies - and also people who have taken advantage of him - ripping him off etc.

I wonder if anything would have been different if he had gone to Utd and not to Spurs.

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The Legend is back!

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2005/12/12.jpg

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Really? And who exactly did Forest get in the third-round draw for the FA Cup?

;) :PP:

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Same team Villa will get in the 4th. At least we won a tie. :angel:

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Yeah, but winning a cup's much better!

Are you hoping Megson's going to hang himself with it?

;) :D

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well Enlgnad have been seeded for the WC.

have to say that with all the worrying we have done and wanting to avoid another top team shows we can't win the WC.. i don't think Brasil 70 were worried that had the world champs in their group

the fact that there are teams we don't want to play and can't beat proves we won't win it.. still at least if we get knocked out then Sven should go.. off to Real Madrid apparently so looks like they will go another year without a trophy

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No the issue is if unseeded you probably have to go up against that team and beat them twice to win it, not something you want to do. If brazil say they dont wanna draw germany in the group stage does that mean they cant win it?

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Where did England come though ;) :disturbd:

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Villa have the same chance as Forest so :p::cool:

Megson can curl up and die such is the disdain I have of him :cool:

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forest seem to be getting it together in their home league games now, if given the choice surely you pick good league form and promotion over a cup run, ok its embarrasing who you lost against but if you get promoted it will soon be forgotten.

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Not long to go now, Come on united.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nited-logo.jpg

Or Fergies number could be up :erm:

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Looks like the annual joke of "What's the difference between Hitler and Arsenal - Hitler got further in Europe" is going to apply to us this year :(

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Never mind. You can concentrate on the League...
















...Cup

:D

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I don't suppose I'll get away with "we can concentrate on the league now" will I ? :erm:


I was gonna say great minds...........

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Well let's face it, we are the only realistic challenge to Chelsea this year :D

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you've got to say looking at the performance tonight and across the group plus the teams we played against and say we don't deserve to go through.. we worked the keeper twice.. once for the goal and then scholes had one other chance.. no one performed and couldn't even raise their game

saw ronaldo sitting on the bench and he didn't even care that we were out.. he still gets 100K this week so don't worry about it

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In that case Arsenal can concentrate on the league....................
















cup :D

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Welcome back btw...haven't heard from you since the bolton game :D

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lololol Touché :D

Yes...that happens quite a lot ;)

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Not true, we're playing **** and winning, our home form is seriously papering over the cracks. Megson is clueless and needs to go.

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That just about sums it up.

The Beeb

Fergie vows to rebuild

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so if fergie went, or was pushed? who would you bring in? Iam of the opinion that i dont want a foreign coach. Id like to stick within the U.K.

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Well, technically, Fergie's foreign ;)

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lol i said "within the U.K"

id fire in names like, Steve McClaren/Mark Hughes/Big Sam. . imagine what big sam would do with some money! :p:

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Hmm, McClaren has got Boro playing some pretty negative tactics this season, and Blackburn are basically a bunch of cloggers under Hughs.

As for Big Sam, he's a good manager, but I don't think the new boss would be happy if he brought his Geriatricos policy to the Glazerdome ;)

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No No No Not Fat Sam. He'll replace the team with geriatrics.

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To be honest I can't think of a British coach who I rate good enough to take over. There is only one choice and thats Hitzfeld.

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can't say there are many top coaches around who have impressed me much.. Man U should play to a certain style with attacking football and not sure some of the managers on the continent would give us that.. only one who plays a team like that is Rikard at Barca but not sure if he could replicate that at Man U

worryingly the board think Sven is a great manager and have asked him about the job before.. i'd rather stick with Fergie

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I can see the Glazers wanting a "top name" manager, and with Sven ruling out the Real MAdrid job (was he really asked about that too?) I can see being a touted for contender. :(

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How about McLeish? He'll be free to take over soon enough. ;)
And he's had some experience in getting players in for no money so the Glazers can use him to help pay off some of the £700 mil.

OK very few of the players he has signed are any good but at least they won't be as bad as the 120k a week amnesiac.

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Very poor signing by fergie. £30 mill when he could have got woodgate far far cheaper.

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I just hope united don't have to sell any key players, (such as Rooney) to make up any shortfall through not progressing in the champions league, the new owners need to find the interest payments from somewhere.

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He would have been the better option I think.

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the shortfall isn't as bad as people think

we are out one round earlier than last year so we only got 2-5 m less than last year

the 15m people are talking about is if we would have one it

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does anyone else understand all this world cup draw lark :confused:

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Well, Argentina v Holland...should be interesting

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So England get Sweden, Trinidad & Tobago, and Paraguay.

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GROUP B
England
Paraguay
Trinidad & Tobago
Sweden

Well, on paper okay...

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Why couldn't Ivory Coast have gone in our group?

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:rofl: :rofl:

Anyway, I see Shearer's immunity clause is still in effect.

Parker was MOM in my opinion. How does he not get in the england team?

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The injustice of it all eh? I'm sure when the supporters turn up in this thread next week we'll get to hear how St Campbell was the victim of an awful tackle which should have seen (sheep)Shearer sent off....

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I didn't see it, what happened?

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Arsenal lost 1-0 WHaY TO GO, WHOO HOO

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Looks like Liverpool could be the only team to challenge Chelsea - the only team playing well enough to anyway.

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Having watched the highlights on the beeb, it isn't like we aren't creating chances, we are. So I'm not as worried as some supporters are. We need to convert the chances obviously, but it's when you don't even ceate chances you should be worried. Arsenal suffered the same as we did over the weekend, Henry missed 2 guilt edged chances and would probably have cruised the match. On another day, Rooney would have bagged a hat trick, that's the nature of football. We had enough chances to have won 2 games (about a dozen shots on target) these things do happen in football. Gary Neville was at fault for the Everton goal, why he tracked kilbane when he was running towards other defenders is a mystery. In doing so he was left exposed, in the position where he was supposed to be covering. Ultimately, a simple pass was all that was needed to McFadden, who was in acres of space to pick his spot. The experts will say, a goalkeeper should not be beaten at his near post. But fair play to McFadden, it was pretty much unstoppable.

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i blame Van Der Sar for that goal,, i've not been impressed by any of his performances so far.. all the saves he's made are only ones most keepers would have made .. plus he's let in a few goals that he shouldn;t have.. never comes off his line when he shuold.. even though he can see all the play and does punches that go to no where

with him and park and Saha doing nothing the whole match it was no wonder we only drew.. would have liked to have seen Rossi brought on sooner..

we started the match a few players down and despite the chances still can't seem to put the ball in the back of the net.. bet Keano was watching that thinking he was right to go

for the past 2 years we can't score from a corner and looks like we don't even practice them in training.. for 30m Rio needs to put in alot more effort.. including getting his head stuck in when the boots are flying.. we need a proper winger.. doesn;t Ryan Giggs no the ball is a solid object and won't go through a defender if you kick it at them ? are best kicked or a dead ball and crosser of the ball is Neville .. doesn't anyone practice this in training ? i'm sure when we play Wigin we still won't have any wingers and still can't cross or score from a corner either

we might have signed De Jong from Ajax for Jan and Keano looks to be on his way to Read Madrid

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Pele has said the WC Final will be any two from England, Italy and Brasil































so Italy and Brasil in the final then :D

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http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...l/56d59943.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...l/4277c9ea.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...l/a9c8b876.jpg

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Chelsea training notes leaked - they are pretty cool :p

not sure about the part where it says owen smells second balls .. lol

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Too slow ;)

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...postcount=1613

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I think giggsy and rio must have been reading your comments. :D

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I heard a nasty rumour on the way home that Rio had scored, I didn't think hell had frozen over just yet :erm:

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Indeed he had. Then he looked mighty upset later when Bardsley was put on in his place.

Rooney should have had a hat trick, he missed an open goal, then Ruud wouldn't give him the ball for the pen.

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nice to see us score from a corner.. still don't think they had practiced that at all. i wish Andy Gray wouldn't over analyse these things all the tne.. what happened was the ball was whacked into the ball by Giggs hoping someone would get on the end of it... no one had practiced that and no one was moving to create space like Andy Gray said

also at the weekend Andy gray was talking about the Liverpool goal v Boro.. during that goal Morientes was standing off side but the ball wasn't played to him.. it came off a Boro bloke and went to him and Andy was talking about how he was inactive etc.. surely the same thing happened with the Fletcher "goal" as it came back from the keeper he would have been on-side ?



you could see from the other corners that we still don't really have much of an idea

nice to see us getting a few goals but should have been so much more.. still no real wing play and we are very narrow.. also VDS still looks very poor.. they played a ball to the far post in the 80th min with Smith covering a defender and you could see from the replay he had no idea whether to come off his line or not

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Keano's off to Celtic

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ic/4526940.stm

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be interesting to see how well he does up there.. hope it all works out well for him.. he was a legend at United on and off the pitch and put in the effort of about 5 players put together

"There's only one Keano"

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nice to see that he took a 50% paycut too. I know 45k is still a lot of money, but if the rumours about Real are true, he gave up about 30-40k a week to play for his boyhood idols

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I'm quite sure the multi-millionaire can put up with a paycut. Interestingly he could have announced this when he left but only did when Real cooled their interest.

I don't think he would have gone to another premiership club to avoid playing against Man U.

All he needs to worry about now is if Man U and Celtic are picked in the same group for the Champions League next year.

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From the Laws of the game...

Gaining an advantage by being in that position means playing a ball that rebounds to him off a post or the crossbar having been in an offside position or playing a ball that rebounds to him off an opponent having been in an offside position.

Though this leads me to believe that a ball which is deflected by a defender (not deliberately played) should be offside as well. I can't remember the Liverpool goal so not sure which case it was.

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CHELSEA v Barcelona
Real Madrid v ARSENAL
Werder Bremen v Juventus
Bayern Munich v AC Milan
PSV Eindhoven v Lyon
Ajax v Inter Milan
Benfica v LIVERPOOL
RANGERS v Villarreal

(Ties to be played 21/22 February and 7/8 March)

Good possibilities for Rangers and Liverpool to progress there I reckon.

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liverpool got a decent drawer, but cracking drawer of the round as to be chelsea v barca (will it be a case of swet revenge). I read in todays paper that Beckham was relishing facing Arsenal...... so dreams do coem true, lol

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I was there at the time and wasn't sure if Morientes was offside. But looking at the replays he was offside when the original ball was played through, hence he was still offside despite the defender's touch (which doesn't matter, despite what people think).

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Surely it matters if the touch is deliberate?

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it's just so inconsistent though in one match it was ok in another it was off-side.. even the commentators don't know as Andy Gray said one was ok and the other was off-side

i wish they'd just stick toif you are off-side you are off-side

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Chekski vs Barca - cracking tie that one, well looking forward to it.

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Looking at the draw, it could have been Utd V Liverpool if we had got through instead of Benfica!

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Well if the defender had controlled in, then passed it to Morientes, of course he wouldn't be offside, but the header clearly wasn't a deliberate action.

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Do you have an video of the incident? If he headed the ball rather than the ball hit him on the head then its sounds a deliberate action to me.

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Not true, you can't play a team from your own country at this stage of the competition.

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i was going to reply and say the same thing but liverpool don't have any country protection so they could have been drawn together

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Which begs the question, why ?

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It is true. A country can only have 4 teams in the competition. When Liverpool were allowed to compete because of that law they didn't get country protection. How else do you think they ended up in the same group as Chelsea?

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Don't get outta your pram mate, blame the news presenters who said it, not me. :rolleyes:

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Someone's a bit touchy tonight.

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Good result for the lads, glad I had £1 on Ruud to score first ;)

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Feel dirty saying this.... but COME ON ARSENAL TOMORROW!

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If the comments of an **** fan on their own message board is anything to go by then the game is Chelsea's

I just hope the team don't think the same way :rolleyes: