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Is that really the best you can do Billy?

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Correct, I didn’t want Brexit at all. However, are you suggesting we shouldn’t question or query the governments performance?

Really?? Gosh you could have fooled me, I can't think of anything you've posted over the last 2 years that would give any indication you're not happy with the result. Maybe you should start sniping away at any little negative thing that springs to mind . . just so we know like :D

mrmistoffelees

19-09-2021 11:05

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36093695)

You’re a happy little ray of sunshine this morning!

Calling out the issues and wanting to query the government or point out where imho I believe they’ve got it wrong isn’t sniping. Surprised at you Carth you’re actually one of the more engaging people to enjoy a healthy debate with :)

Hugh	19-09-2021 11:53

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36093654)

We reneged because the EU has made an absurd interpretation on a signed document.

The EU interpreted it in a way that no reasonable party to an agreement would.

Once again, batting for the other side.

Incidentally, when has the EU ever fitted your ‘reasonable person’ definition?

Once again, intimating those who disagree with you are traitors - seems to me your main aim in this thread is to denigrate those who have different views from you, stirring up trouble; you do this so often, I wonder if you are a resident of one of Vladimir’s little bot farms, Old Boy (or should I call you "staryy mal'chik"?). ;)

Mick	19-09-2021 12:10

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Tone of this thread is diminishing. Members need to stop getting personal with each other.

1andrew1

20-09-2021 22:49

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Not sure what to make of this. Johnson has form, though.

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Johnson’s claim Dutch PM offered to mediate in Brexit row not true, say sources

Insiders reject inference of division among EU members on Northern Ireland issue

Boris Johnson has walked into a diplomatic row with one of the UK’s closest allies after claiming the prime minister of the Netherlands had been seeking to “mediate” between Brussels and London over the post-Brexit arrangements for Northern Ireland.

Speaking to reporters on a plane to New York for a meeting of the UN general assembly, the prime minister suggested the Dutch government was looking to act as a mediator between the European Commission and London on the differences that have arisen in recent months.

“I talked to Mark Rutte [the Dutch PM] the other night, who wanted to come and see if he could mediate on the issue and I said, you know, we really want to make progress,” Johnson had said. “We seek a solution, but it has to be one that allows the free movement of goods between all parts of our country.”

Dutch diplomatic sources expressed surprise at the prime minister’s comments, insisting that Rutte had instead specifically urged Johnson to be pragmatic in his dealings with the European Commission.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ue-say-sources

TheDaddy

21-09-2021 09:29

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36093634)

I blame the remainers.

Of course you do, much easier to do that accept responsibility for this or admit you were duped, wonder what happened to the oven ready deal, not enough gas or electricity to switch the oven on

Sephiroth

21-09-2021 09:32

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36093881)

Of course you do, much easier to do that accept responsibility for this or admit you were duped, wonder what happened to the oven ready deal, not enough gas or electricity to switch the oven on

What? Do please stay credible.

OLD BOY

21-09-2021 10:04

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36093691)

Is that really the best you can do Billy?

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Correct, I didn’t want Brexit at all. However, are you suggesting we shouldn’t question or query the governments performance?

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36093881)

Of course you do, much easier to do that accept responsibility for this or admit you were duped, wonder what happened to the oven ready deal, not enough gas or electricity to switch the oven on

Er, we agreed that deal, remember? Not the best that could be achieved in better circumstances, but given all the noises off trying to sabotage the whole thing, it was quite an achievement.

As for gas and electricity supplies- what has that got to do with Brexit?

Carth

21-09-2021 10:10

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36093884)

Er, we agreed that deal, remember? Not the best that could be achieved in better circumstances, but given all the noises off trying to sabotage the whole thing, it was quite an achievement.

As for gas and electricity supplies- what has that got to do with Brexit?

Probably nobody to load it onto trailers :D

Hugh	21-09-2021 10:20

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36093884)

Er, we agreed that deal, remember? Not the best that could be achieved in better circumstances, but given all the noises off trying to sabotage the whole thing, it was quite an achievement.

As for gas and electricity supplies- what has that got to do with Brexit?

https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...id-19-to-blame

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countries in the EU’s internal energy market trade efficiently with each other using linked auctions that balance prices across the bloc. The UK, having decoupled its auctions from Europe, could in theory get cheaper energy than anywhere else – if energy was really cheap. But it isn’t, so the UK is more exposed to high prices.

Hope this helps...

TheDaddy

21-09-2021 10:25

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36093883)

What? Do please stay credible.

What are they paying?

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36093887)

https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...id-19-to-blame

Hope this helps...

:tu:

Carth

21-09-2021 10:39

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https://www.offshore-mag.com/regiona...-higher-prices

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UK gas production between January and August 2021 totaled 17 bcm, down 28% on the comparable period for 2020, according to Wood Mackenzie, a Verisk business.

Factors included delays to new projects and maintenance, notably the three-week program in June to maintain the Forties Pipeline System in the UK central North Sea (postponed from last summer).

This resulted in the shutdown of supply from all connected 67 offshore fields, while further work on other parts of the system throughout the year meant field clusters such as Elgin/Franklin, Shearwater, and ETAP have all been offline for longer.

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But output should rebound to 35 bcm in 2022, with the recovery driven by the start-up of new gas projects such as IOG’s Saturn Banks hubs, and others deferred from 2020 due to the coronavirus, such as Arran, Columbus, and Finlaggan in the UK central North Sea.

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However, Norway’s gas production has also been affected by planned and unplanned maintenance, while continental Europe has been struggling to satisfy its own gas storage needs ahead of the coming winter.

papa smurf

21-09-2021 11:31

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We won't need any gas we are cooking to death due to global bul.... er warming, if predictions are right it should be toasty/scorchio all year round.

Sephiroth

21-09-2021 11:48

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Brexit seems to have gone quiet. I think VdL is in the USA and, no doubt, she and Boris will have a chat about things.

The Jersey fishing situation is likely to get frisky and there may be further huffing & puffing from the Calais mayor about the (currently troubled) cross-channel power link and, indeed, they can use all sorts of excuses not to ratchet it back up to full power. If that happens, all hell needs to break loose!

The NI Protocol may well remain as a can kicking exercise for some time as there is much else for governments to do in the current perfect storm scenario.