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Mr K 20-02-2020 20:32

Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36025341)
Looks like that perfidious Vardkar has at last been stiffed.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...F-il-Fine-Gael

Might help the negotiations.


Varadkar or Sinn Fein, who do you prefer?

Sephiroth 20-02-2020 20:43

Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36025343)
The poll had nothing to do with the EU...

Where's your sense of humour?


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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36025344)
Varadkar or Sinn Fein, who do you prefer?

Obviously not Varadkar. Who ever else becomes their PM will have the opportunity to avoid perfidy.

papa smurf 20-02-2020 20:47

Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36025343)
The poll had nothing to do with the EU...

i didn't mention poll.

Pierre 20-02-2020 21:00

Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36025344)
Varadkar or Sinn Fein, who do you prefer?

Irrelevant, unless you are eligible to vote in the Irish elections.

I prefer, whoever the Irish vote for.

Hugh 22-02-2020 22:01

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From the gov.uk website - our new "blue" British passport*.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/i...urn-next-month
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Britons will be able to travel with a blue passport when the traditional colour returns for the first time in almost 30 years.

The distinctive blue cover will be re-introduced now the UK has left the EU, and will replace burgundy passports which were gradually rolled out from 1988.

The first new passports will be issued and delivered early next month. Full introduction will be phased in and from mid-2020 all new passports will be blue.
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1582408445

Looks black** to me - I suppose I just have to believe it’s blue more...

*made in Poland by a French company

(**Same colour as my passport from the 80’s, which I still have (with the corner cut off).

Chris 22-02-2020 22:13

Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
 
The pre-EU passport has always been described as blue even though it was a very dark shade (I think it’s what you call “midnight blue” ... my first car was that colour). I don’t think there’s much (any) controversy here. For those who value the symbolism of the colour change, reverting to the same very dark shade of the pre-EU passport will be much more in line with their hopes than some of the lighter blue mock-ups that appeared in the media when the change was first announced.

Sephiroth 22-02-2020 22:15

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My blue passport with serial number 200200A also contains the autographs of the 1966 England football team, including Bobby Moore, Alan Ball, etc.

I think it's right to further differentiate ourselves from the EU in this way.

Btw, I learnt at school maths that differentiation was the opposite of integration. Funny that.

Damien 22-02-2020 22:29

Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
 
I actually prefer the black tone to the blue. Looks more sleek and professional.

Pierre 22-02-2020 22:56

Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
 
Could be pink with yellow stripes for all I care.

Damien 23-02-2020 08:55

Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36025488)
Could be pink with yellow stripes for all I care.

Nah, that would look awful.

I think they should have gone more radical though. The ones in Norway are amazing: https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2...assport-design

The symbolism of changing the passport should have been to something altogether new rather than reverting to the past although I don't really care that much.

Hugh 23-02-2020 10:02

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36025483)
The pre-EU passport has always been described as blue even though it was a very dark shade (I think it’s what you call “midnight blue” ... my first car was that colour). I don’t think there’s much (any) controversy here. For those who value the symbolism of the colour change, reverting to the same very dark shade of the pre-EU passport will be much more in line with their hopes than some of the lighter blue mock-ups that appeared in the media when the change was first announced.

From the gov.uk passport application site - even they aren’t sure... :D

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1582452070

Black is blue, and war is peace, ignorance is strength, Airstrip One has always had a blue passport, etc... ;)

btw, here’s the mock up Theresa May showed people..

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1582452393

Now that’s blue.

jonbxx 24-02-2020 09:01

Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36025511)
Nah, that would look awful.

I think they should have gone more radical though. The ones in Norway are amazing: https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2...assport-design

The symbolism of changing the passport should have been to something altogether new rather than reverting to the past although I don't really care that much.

I like the Swiss passport - https://www.ofs.ch/products-services...tems/passport/

And the New Zealand one - https://images.app.goo.gl/eUcM9KUQMCcnQqtd8

In other news, the CBI have published what they would like to see from an ongoing relationship with the EU - https://www.cbi.org.uk/articles/the-...-relationship/

Sephiroth 26-02-2020 17:58

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I see that positions are hardening.

UK is saying that fishing rights are not part of the trade negotiations. The EU is adamant on the opposite.

UK is saying we will be sovereign and not subject to any EU rules. The EU is adamant that their rules/standards will be the reference point.

We talk about our "European friends"; they talk about our "British friends". Isn't it time that this patronising language changed - especially from our side?


Hugh 27-02-2020 09:26

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...10riyo?ocid=sf
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Boris Johnson is poised to abandon part of the Brexit deal he signed with Brussels setting up a furious row with the EU when the trade talks get underway next month.

The Government will publish its negotiating mandate later today after Number 10 cast serious doubts over whether it will stick to promises it made in the political declaration it signed alongside the withdrawal agreement.

Downing Street sources suggested the declaration the Prime Minister signed setting out the framework for a future trade deal had been usurped by the Tories’ manifesto, which helped the party secure a thumping general election victory.

On Wednesday, the Prime Minister's official spokesman said the “political declaration was agreed alongside the withdrawal agreement and sets out aspirations and parameters for the upcoming negotiations on the future relationship”. The spokesman added: "The political declaration is clear that this will be based on a free trade agreement."

While not legally-binding, the political declaration is an international agreement signed between the European Commission and the UK Government.

papa smurf 27-02-2020 09:45

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36025761)

:bigcry:

ooh le sob, le sob.;)


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