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Damien 16-01-2026 22:22
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He is just useless. I think very few citizens of this country are literally our enemy. I seriously dislike Farage, but he isn't the enemy. I would leave that description to literal traitors, people who want to overthrow our democracy, terrorists and the like. People who try to change things democratically are not our enemies.

Sephiroth 16-01-2026 22:32
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36209139)
He is just useless. I think very few citizens of this country are literally our enemy. I seriously dislike Farage, but he isn't the enemy. I would leave that description to literal traitors, people who want to overthrow our democracy, terrorists and the like. People who try to change things democratically are not our enemies.
..... as in postponing democratic elections on the "plausible" pretext of local government reorganisation.

Mr K 16-01-2026 23:00
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..... as in postponing democratic elections on the "plausible" pretext of local government reorganisation.
A bit like redrawing electoral boundaries like the last Govt did (not that it did them any good).

Sephiroth 16-01-2026 23:52
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A bit like redrawing electoral boundaries like the last Govt did (not that it did them any good).
The two are not comparable. The GE vote took place with the new boundaries and the Tories lost. Now, in local elections, several million people are being disenfranchised.

Even if your proposition is valid, that does not excuse what Labour is doing now.

1andrew1 17-01-2026 00:15
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36209143)
The two are not comparable. The GE vote took place with the new boundaries and the Tories lost. Now, in local elections, several million people are being disenfranchised.

Even if your proposition is valid, that does not excuse what Labour is doing now.
It's a waste of tax payers' money to hold elections in councils that will soon be abolished. It's just cheap politics to claim otherwise.

papa smurf 17-01-2026 10:28
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It's a waste of tax payers' money to hold elections in councils that will soon be abolished. It's just cheap politics to claim otherwise.
especially in the ones that Reform are about to win

Sephiroth 17-01-2026 10:37
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It's a waste of tax payers' money to hold elections in councils that will soon be abolished. It's just cheap politics to claim otherwise.
I'm surprised that you, of all people, should put a price on democracy.

papa smurf 17-01-2026 11:46
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I'm surprised that you, of all people, should put a price on democracy.
have you forgotten the "peoples vote" idea, put out by democracy deniers

1andrew1 17-01-2026 15:17
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I'm surprised that you, of all people, should put a price on democracy.
I don't see it as an attack on democracy. I'm a little surprised to see you promoting profligate spending. Your belief in democracy is better served by advocating for MPs and councillors who switch parties mid term to stand for re-election if one is not close.

OLD BOY 17-01-2026 16:20
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209144)
It's a waste of tax payers' money to hold elections in councils that will soon be abolished. It's just cheap politics to claim otherwise.
They didn’t cancel elections when we had the 1972 local government reorganisation.

Starmer is doing this to keep out Reform UK.

Sephiroth 17-01-2026 17:10
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209160)
I don't see it as an attack on democracy. I'm a little surprised to see you promoting profligate spending. Your belief in democracy is better served by advocating for MPs and councillors who switch parties mid term to stand for re-election if one is not close.
Nothing you've said is conducive to democracy. Democracy has no price. Switching parties and other shenanigans of that sort, political bickering, do not defeat democracy in the same way as denying the people their rightful vote.

It cannot be "profligate spending" to hold elections on a due date.

nomadking 17-01-2026 17:19
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36209141)
A bit like redrawing electoral boundaries like the last Govt did (not that it did them any good).
The Government doesn't redraw boundaries, the Boundary Commission does.

Carth 17-01-2026 18:16
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36209172)
The Government doesn't redraw boundaries, the Boundary Commission does.
What colour crayons are they using this time?

Sirius 17-01-2026 19:32
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36209168)
They didn’t cancel elections when we had the 1972 local government reorganisation.

Starmer is doing this to keep out Reform UK.
It's simple, he's running scared. To be honest i think he needs to be more worried about those close to him in his own party.


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