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Not quite the Arse licking letter Juncker sent, which was my whole point, but you had to get a dig in to Trump didn't you ? :rolleyes:

We got all the crap going on in European Countries, that crap going on here in Salisbury, the issues with Crimea and you got Juncker wanting to work close together with Putin. :sick:

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No condemnation for other EU countries either, sucking up to Putin and congratulating him ?

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Republican Senator Lindsey Graham tweeted the correct way of congratulating Putin....

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/...32315409305600

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I think France took the right approach when Macron wished Mr Putin success in "modernising Russia", but urged Moscow to shed light on the "unacceptable" attempted assassination of an ex-spy in Britain. I'm disappointed if no one else did the same, particularly powerful people like Trump and Junker who both seem to have bottled it, wouldn't you agree?

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I think anyone from the West who congratulated Putin is a hypocrite, but especially when your own Intelligence Community and the bi-partisan Senate Intelligence Committee state that Russia interfered in the 2016 Election and are likely to try and interfere in the 2018 Mid-Term elections, it would appear you are congratulating someone who is actively trying to harm your country.

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Or it could be they are shit scared of Russia.

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I’m not impressed with any leader who congratulated him. Last week, he was being called out by entire international community for the apparent poison attack in Salisbury, this week, he’s getting congratulated, he’s just going to think he’s got away with it (again).

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Meanwhile, Brexit fishing complainer-in-chief Rees-Mogg's firm has been caught breaking sanctions against Russia.

Somerset Capital Management Ltd, has £58 million invested in Sberbank, based in Russia, which has had sanctions imposed by both the EU and US, following the annexation of Crimea by Russia in 2014.

This is despite Rees-Mogg asking for stiffer sanctions against the country.

Clearly, for the privileged elite, it's a case of do as I say and not do as I do. ;)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ank-investment

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Interesting conclusion from the FT. The paper correctly predicted the government would concede to the EU on a large number of points so this article carries some authority.
https://www.ft.com/content/440ad6fe-...b-bc4b9f08f381

Here's the link from the House of Commons that shows a technological or managerial solution is a non-starter, Q 305 onwards.
http://data.parliament.uk/writtenevi...ral/80035.html

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I thought it was a shredder, to be honest...:D

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It is a combination of things, Andrew, 'not just one silver bullet', as was made clear in the session.

I note that once again, you have concentrated on the negatives and not picked up on the opportunities to make this work.

The problem with this session was that the politicians wers looking for simple solutions, but it was difficult for the witnesses to explain what could be done without knowing which way the negotiations would go.

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No one said there was a silver bullet.
Hauliers were asked if the suggestions made so far were practical and they patiently explained in detail how they were not. I've provided a full link to the enquiry and the opinion of a respected newspaper which correctly predicted all aspects of the recent agreement. Maybe, just maybe they will be right on the customs union as well?
Rather than criticising people for believing Parliamentry enquiries, if you have robust evidence then please share those positive links and make us all happy. ;)

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So much for considering our own British companies before foreign companies.:(

https://www.ft.com/content/e1578076-...a-7e7563b0b0f4

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...nco-dutch-firm

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Just seen Piers Morgan tweet about this, he just said “Whatever side of brexit you are on, getting the French to make British Passports is bloody stupid’.

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Not a great lover of Piers Morgan but he is certainly right on this.

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I think we are letting emotion get the better of us.

I would rather the money that's extracted from me in taxation is spent wisely. If France can meet the specification more cheaply than British firms, so be it.

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No l doubt think so OB as l would call it putting "our country first".

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Full of contradictions l see as usual..

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How so? What contradiction? If we are going to perform on the world stage, we need to be competitive.

However, I do find it amusing that people who want to embrace the EU don't want France to get this work! This cracks me up! :D

You are beginning to sound like a certain Mr Trump, Den, and I never thought I'd say that to you!