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pip08456 12-01-2021 23:20
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Senator Mitch McConnell, has told associates he believes President Trump committed impeachable offenses and that he is pleased that Democrats are moving to impeach him, believing that it will make it easier to purge him from the party!

Damien 13-01-2021 07:10
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There are also rumours of more to come out with it becoming clear 'in the comes days/weeks'.

Mick 13-01-2021 07:43
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Far stretch that McConnell said any of this at all. Fake News. Like other political pundits have said. I believe it when I see it. Siding with Democrat ****, would be costly to Republicans in the longer term.

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During Brett Kavanaugh hearing protests on Capital Hill were hot tempered and Democrat talk at the time, sounded no different to how Trump spoke last week. In 2018, Democrat Vice President-elect, Harris, summarised the protests:

Quote:
“It can be summarized as no rules, no decorum, no respect. And what we will do is make our case to the American people because they will rise up. The American people are on our side.”
Surely this was incitement to insurrection by Dems during Kavanaugh hearings?

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“This is a failure of this body to do what it has always said it is about which is be deliberative,” said Harris, widely considered a potential 2020 Democratic presidential contender.

Sephiroth 13-01-2021 09:03
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The only "****" I've seen has been rioting at the Capitol a few days ago.

Chris 13-01-2021 09:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36066458)
Far stretch that McConnell said any of this at all. Fake News. Like other political pundits have said. I believe it when I see it. Siding with Democrat ****, would be costly to Republicans in the longer term.

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During Brett Kavanaugh hearing protests on Capital Hill were hot tempered and Democrat talk at the time, sounded no different to how Trump spoke last week. In 2018, Democrat Vice President-elect, Harris, summarised the protests:


Surely this was incitement to insurrection by Dems during Kavanaugh hearings?
McConnell’s comments are reported in the NY Times. He’s well within his rights to demand a retraction or threaten a libel action - or even just issue a denial by press release - if their report does not in fact represent his views. I don’t think he will, because I think the NY Times is only publishing what it’s sure of.

Dick Cheney’s daughter, who is House GOP, will vote to impeach (as will several others). The NY Times believes 20 GOP senators would vote to convict Trump if he was impeached. Only 17 need do so to secure the 67% support required to convict.

The prize for moderate republicans appears to be the Senate’s ability to punish Trump by barring him from office. There are those who want to move on from Trump who believe the party will be unable to do so as long as he continues to threaten to run in 2024.

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YouTube becomes the latest to put the boot in to Trump:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55643774

His account is suspended for a minimum of 7 days for inciting violence contrary to their T&Cs.

Damien 13-01-2021 09:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36066465)
McConnell’s comments are reported in the NY Times. He’s well within his rights to demand a retraction or threaten a libel action - or even just issue a denial by press release - if their report does not in fact represent his views. I don’t think he will, because I think the NY Times is only publishing what it’s sure of.
The Washington Post backed it up.

It's clearly McConnell 'letting it be known' without formally committing to it.

1andrew1 13-01-2021 10:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36066463)
The only "****" I've seen has been rioting at the Capitol a few days ago.
I don't think it's accurate to call anyone ****. The armed insurgents clearly felt they had a case to do what they did. They were wrong and were misled by fake news perpetuated by Trump and his media mates.

Unfortunately, there seems to be an issue in identifying what is fake news and what isn't, but it doesn't make them ****.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36066470)
The Washington Post backed it up.

It's clearly McConnell 'letting it be known' without formally committing to it.
Absolutely.

Sephiroth 13-01-2021 10:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36066476)
I don't think it's accurate to call anyone ****. The armed insurgents clearly felt they had a case to do what they did. They were wrong and were misled by fake news perpetuated by Trump and his media mates.

Unfortunately, there seems to be an issue in identifying what is fake news and what isn't, but it doesn't make them ****.

<SNIP>
There you go again, Andrew. Just as with Brexit, you're taking the other side's viewpoint. A thug is a thug, whether or not misled by Trump. And thugs are ****. Those invading the Capitol were largely **** - there might have been some weak minded individuals who might be described as "running dogs".

I note you didn't pull Mick up who called the Democrats "****".

TheDaddy 13-01-2021 10:28
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I think the democrats are blinded by their hatred for donny, he'll be an open sore for the republican party that they should just allow to fester and rot

jfman 13-01-2021 10:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36066481)
There you go again, Andrew. Just as with Brexit, you're taking the other side's viewpoint. A thug is a thug, whether or not misled by Trump. And thugs are ****. Those invading the Capitol were largely **** - there might have been some weak minded individuals who might be described as "running dogs".

I note you didn't pull Mick up who called the Democrats "****".
In some respects I agree with Seph here. Part of me would welcome trouble around the inauguration as the fools will only self incriminate on social media, running around massless then they can all be rounded up and imprisoned. That way wider society would be better off than have a poisonous underbelly spreading disinformation for the next 4 years only to have to face up to fascism anyway.

1andrew1 13-01-2021 10:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36066481)
There you go again, Andrew. Just as with Brexit, you're taking the other side's viewpoint. A thug is a thug, whether or not misled by Trump. And thugs are ****. Those invading the Capitol were largely **** - there might have been some weak minded individuals who might be described as "running dogs".

I note you didn't pull Mick up who called the Democrats "****".
It's dehumanising to label any group **** whoever uses the label, be it you or Mick. My previous post said "call anyone" which covers Democrats and Republicans. When you start to dehumanise your opponents, you're on a slippery slope. "Dehumanization is one technique in incitement to genocide.[ It has also been used to justify war, judicial and extrajudicial killing, slavery, the confiscation of property, denial of suffrage and other rights, and to attack enemies or political opponents." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization

I have no issue in describing the armed insurgents as thugs.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36066483)
I think the democrats are blinded by their hatred for donny, he'll be an open sore for the republican party that they should just allow to fester and rot
Agreed. They should let the pro and anti Trump factions fight it out whilst they focus on recovering the country.

Sephiroth 13-01-2021 10:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36066489)
It's dehumanising to label any group **** whoever uses the label, be it you or Mick. And when you start to dehumanise your opponents, you're on a slippery slope. "Dehumanization is one technique in incitement to genocide.[ It has also been used to justify war, judicial and extrajudicial killing, slavery, the confiscation of property, denial of suffrage and other rights, and to attack enemies or political opponents." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization

I have no issue in describing the armed insurgents as thugs.
<SNIP>
You're way off beam there, Andrew.


1andrew1 13-01-2021 11:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36066491)
You're way off beam there, Andrew.
We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. ;)

pip08456 13-01-2021 13:30
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Pence refuses to invoke 25th amendment.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1610544552

Hugh 13-01-2021 14:31
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Message to the Army Community from Army Chief of Staff, General James C. McConville, about recent events at the Capitol.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1610548266


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