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thenry 02-12-2012 14:34

Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35505660)
Well with Arsenal in 10th place l think he would find it a unappealing project.

sorry bud but thats just a stupid comment to make.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35505662)
Too difficult a job,

its a challenge.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35505662)
quite high expectations,

Pep himself has high expectations.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35505662)
not much money.

actually there is a decent amount only its taken up but don't be mistaken, theres money in the bank not to mention the hike in incoming revenue from sponsorships.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35505662)
I suspect that might do it.

nope. not in my opinion it wouldn't.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35505662)
I think Arsenal are best suited to him in England

so the above means nothing then. that makes no sense.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35505662)
but I wouldn't be surprised to see him in Germany instead. Much more rational footballing culture.

really? Barca was pretty intense. everyone seems to think he just flicked a switch and done a 'Arry there when he couldn't be any further away from good ol'd 'Arry if he tried. Germany has some insane fans. I've read many comments from fellow Gooners who are German. He wants to manage in the Prem.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35505662)
Incidentally I think Jürgen Klopp would be an ideal successor to Wenger, he has a track record of being successful at Dortmund which is a club similar to Arsenal in many respects. Granted he isn't a big name to appease the masses but anyone who follows German football closely will testify to his qualities.

Yeah may be. Depending on how far Klopp can take or keep hold of Dortmunds stars etc. who knows if he would leave Dortmund whom are doing so well.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35505662)
Pep is untested, it will be a very different task to Barcelona. He had money, the world's best team, and inherited a system and a culture that had been there for decades and one which he grew up in as a player.

Peps untested in another league, thats understood. Pep didn't just walk into the Barcelona first team managers role. He worked to get there. Hes done a lot at Barca. Fine he may not have rewritten everything but he implemented what was. he did have some incredibly gifted players but we have talent too. theres also talent out in the world whom Pep can go out and buy. fair enough we wont be able to buy Messi and co, so what? there are other players out in the world who you can work with to win or even compete.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35505662)
Even after he has left Barcelona and doing just as well, maybe even better, than before.

brilliant. i wish that could repeat here at Arsenal.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35505662)
It's really difficult to see how he would do at another club where he won't have any of those advantages.

like Wenger had the advantage of solid players whom needed guiding?

colin25 02-12-2012 14:42

Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Don't pin your hopes too much on Pep..you are likely to be disappointed

thenry 02-12-2012 14:49

Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35505675)
Don't pin your hopes too much on Pep..you are likely to be disappointed

ye probably. the board will most likely stick with Wenger and then have to make a decision when its too late. the amount of talent that has passed our doors is criminal!

denphone 02-12-2012 14:50

Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
The clear fact is Arsenal have no chance of getting Pep thenry and thats quite clear to most of us.

thenry 02-12-2012 14:52

Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
no it isnt.

denphone 02-12-2012 15:04

Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35505681)
no it isnt.

Ah well we will disagree on that one great one.:)

Dave42 02-12-2012 15:11

Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
sunderland better player better today

TheDaddy 02-12-2012 15:16

Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35505662)
Too difficult a job, quite high expectations, not much money. I suspect that might do it. I think Arsenal are best suited to him in England but I wouldn't be surprised to see him in Germany instead. Much more rational footballing culture. Incidentally I think Jürgen Klopp would be an ideal successor to Wenger, he has a track record of being successful at Dortmund which is a club similar to Arsenal in many respects. Granted he isn't a big name to appease the masses but anyone who follows German football closely will testify to his qualities.

Pep is untested, it will be a very different task to Barcelona. He had money, the world's best team, and inherited a system and a culture that had been there for decades and one which he grew up in as a player. Even after he has left Barcelona and doing just as well, maybe even better, than before. It's really difficult to see how he would do at another club where he won't have any of those advantages.

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I didn't realise the season was over.

Klopp is the best young manager in Europe, I'd rather go for him than endure the pep roadshow

nstokes 02-12-2012 15:22

Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35505656)
Would Pep go to Arsenal? I'm not sure

Will never happen. I will be Tulisa's husband before that ever happens

Damien 02-12-2012 15:26

Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35505693)
Klopp is the best young manager in Europe, I'd rather go for him than endure the pep roadshow

Yeah if I had to appoint a successor then I would take Klopp over any manager out there right now. I think Arsenal's problems run deeper than the manager though so until that is addressed we might struggle to make such an appointment.

denphone 02-12-2012 15:28

Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35505693)
Klopp is the best young manager in Europe, I'd rather go for him than endure the pep roadshow

Yes TD l have to echo your exact sentiments as Klopp has done a wonderful job at Dortmund.

thenry 02-12-2012 15:29

Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35505700)
Yeah if I had to appoint a successor then I would take Klopp over any manager out there right now. I think Arsenal's problems run deeper than the manager though so until that is addressed we might struggle to make such an appointment.

our problem is this > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDBLSUKJiDY

everyone is up Arsenes arse and ArseNAL FC is suffering!

MalteseFalcon 02-12-2012 15:55

Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Some good ties in the FA Cup, although gutted Chelski and United got easy matches again. Arsenal travel to Swansea.

From BBC Sport.

Crystal Palace v Stoke

Brighton v Newcastle

Tottenham v Coventry City

Wigan v Bournemouth

Fulham v Blackpool

Aston Villa v Ipswich

Charlton v Huddersfield

Barrow or Macclesfield v Cardiff

Barnsley v Burnley

Manchester City v Watford

Swansea v Arsenal

Leicester v Burton

Millwall v Preston

Cheltenham or Hereford v Everton

Derby v Tranmere

Crawley v Reading

Aldershot v Rotherham or Notts County

Middlesbrough v Harrogate or Hastings

Accrington Stanley or Oxford v Sheffield United

Southampton v Chelsea

QPR v West Brom

Peterborough v Norwich

Lincoln or Mansfield v Liverpool

Bolton v Sunderland

Nottingham Forest v Oldham

West Ham v Manchester United

Hull v Alfreton or Leyton Orient

Blackburn v Bristol City

Leeds v Birmingham

Bury or Southend v Bradford or Brentford

Luton v Wolves

Sheffield Wednesday v MK Dons

nstokes 02-12-2012 15:56

Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Full FA Cup 3rd Round fixtures are:-

Crystal Palace v Stoke

Brighton v Newcastle

Tottenham v Coventry City

Wigan v Bournemouth

Fulham v Blackpool

Aston Villa v Ipswich

Charlton v Huddersfield

Barrow or Macclesfield v Cardiff

Barnsley v Burnley

Manchester City v Watford

Swansea v Arsenal

Leicester v Burton

Millwall v Preston

Cheltenham or Hereford v Everton

Derby v Tranmere

Crawley v Reading

Aldershot v Rotherham or Notts County

Middlesbrough v Harrogate or Hastings

Accrington Stanley or Oxford v Sheffield United

Southampton v Chelsea

QPR v West Brom

Peterborough v Norwich

Lincoln or Mansfield v Liverpool

Bolton v Sunderland

Nottingham Forest v Oldham

West Ham v Manchester United

Hull v Alfreton or Leyton Orient

Blackburn v Bristol City

Leeds v Birmingham

Bury or Southend v Bradford or Brentford

Luton v Wolves

Sheffield Wednesday v MK Dons

MalteseFalcon 02-12-2012 15:58

Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
I was editing my post to add draw in when nstokes posted, sorry for that.


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