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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

6 months to clear a minefield?

Come on, a large group of unruly teenagers in speedboats would have it done inside 3 weeks ;) :naughty:

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

That’s probably what Hegseth told Trump… ;)

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/20...rait-of-hormuz

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Iran’s stockpile is estimated by maritime analysts to number 2,000 to 6,000 mines, a significant portion of which are produced domestically. These weapons generally fall into three categories, based on how they interact with their targets:

Contact mines: These are traditional designs, such as the M-08, which date back to World War I. They are moored to the seabed and detonate upon physical contact with a ship’s hull.

Bottom (influence) mines: Models like the Maham-2 rest on the seafloor and are triggered by the acoustic, magnetic or pressure signatures of passing vessels, making them significantly harder to detect than moored varieties – and more dangerous than contact mines because the ship doesn’t even need to touch the mine to trigger an explosion.

‘Smart’ and rocket mines: More advanced systems, including reportedly imported Chinese EM-52 rocket mines, remain moored on the seabed at depths of up to 200 metres (656ft). When they detect a ship sailing overhead, they release a rocket that strikes the vessel’s underside.

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How easy is it to clear sea mines?
The process of clearing mines – known as mine countermeasures (MCM) – is slow, methodical and high risk. It involves “mine hunting”, using high-resolution sonar to find individual mines, and “minesweeping”, using mechanical or magnetic systems to trigger them.

However, the US Navy is facing what experts call a “mine gap”. The FPRI’s analysis detailed how institutional neglect had led to the retirement of dedicated MCM assets just months before this war. The Navy decommissioned its last four Avenger-class MCM ships in Bahrain in September. Additionally, the MH-53E Sea Dragon helicopters, long the backbone of airborne minesweeping, were phased out in August, it reported.

The current US strategy relies on small combat ships built for coastal operations and fitted with MCM mission modules. However, only one of these vessels, the USS Canberra, is currently available in the region.

“MCM units tend to be good at one single job and lousy at anything but minimal point defence,” Hudisteanu told Al Jazeera. He explained that while conducting clearance, these vessels are “virtually sitting ducks” for coastal missiles or fast attack craft, requiring a massive protective screen of destroyers and aircraft to operate.

tl:dr - Good luck with that…

Anyhoo, the USA are currently in the three to five day pause on the fourteen day extension of the initial two day hard deadline for the ceasefire, having destroyed the Iranian Navy and all their missiles, for a Strait they don’t need…

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BP profits more than double as Iran war sends oil prices higher

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2eveyvgn9no

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In its first results since the conflict broke out, the energy giant reported profits of $3.2bn (£2.4bn) between January and March after an "exceptional" performance in its oil trading business.

The figure was far higher than analysts had expected and more than double the $1.38bn it reported in the same period last year.

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Profits at the company's customers and products division, which includes its oil trading unit, surged to $2.5bn compared with just $103m a year ago.

However, BP said its upstream production - which refers to the search and extraction of oil and gas - had been flat in the quarter.

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Russian superyacht sails through Strait of Hormuz despite blockade

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2pn8zdxdjo

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A superyacht linked to one of Russian President Vladimir Putin's key allies has sailed through the Strait of Hormuz, despite the ongoing blockade of the critical shipping channel.

The 142m-long (465 feet) Nord luxury boat, linked to sanctioned Russian billionaire Alexey Mordashov, travelled from Dubai to Muscat, Oman over the weekend, one of a few private vessels to transit through the strait in recent months.

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36214572)

Russian superyacht sails through Strait of Hormuz despite blockade

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2pn8zdxdjo

Not surprised that Trump let one of Putin's mates through. I'm not very clear on what the US is blockading - is it just boats going to and from Iran?

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A superyacht linked to one of Russian President Vladimir Putin's key allies has sailed through the Strait of Hormuz, despite the ongoing blockade of the critical shipping channel.

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Terrorist incident declared after two Jewish men stabbed in north London

https://news.sky.com/story/follow-la...-says-13527284

:rolleyes: :no:

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

The enemy is here - and still arriving.

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36214639)

The enemy is here - and still arriving.

For those of us catching up, whom exactly is the enemy ?

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36214819)

For those of us catching up, whom exactly is the enemy ?

As if you didn’t know: Undocumented boat people. Some feared to be Iranian IRGC plants. Been going on for years.

Why do you ask?

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36214821)

As if you didn’t know: Undocumented boat people. Some feared to be Iranian IRGC plants. Been going on for years.

Why do you ask?

The same reason as everyone asks questions. Seeking clarification and avoiding confusion.

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

For those of us catching up, whom exactly is the enemy ?

The US!!

The US is a threat to the whole world!!

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36214825)

The US!!

The US is a threat to the whole world!!

I would have to disagree…

I believe the current US Administration is a threat to the World, but also to the USA itself (but that’s another thread).

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36214824)

The same reason as everyone asks questions. Seeking clarification and avoiding confusion.

Fair enough - possibly. But it seems to me that everyone else, or at least everyone of a reasonable disposition, didn't need to ask that question.

To add some colour, though:

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Israel was murderously attacked on 7-Oct-23. 1200+ brutally murdered and hundreds of innocent people abducted by Hamas terrorists to Gaza.

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Israel then attacked Hamas targets, with significant collateral civilian damage as the assault progressed. Hamas used the civilian population as shields, for example tunnel entrances in schools or hospitals.

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As this dragged on, the destruction as shown on TV attracted criticism from all quarters through application of the vague term "proportionate".

So - what is proportionate to what Hamas did? What is "proportionate" about not wiping Hamas out - who are ideologically and suicidally obsessed with murdering Israelis and Jews?

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That brings us to the UK. It is well known that antisemites more-or-less equate Israelis with all Jews; the "who would you cheer at a football match" syndrome.

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As soon as 09-Oct-23, the Jew haters were out on London's streets with their infamous banners wishing genocide on Israeli Jews. Anti-Jewish hate incident took place immediately, including physical violence on Jews.

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With the most recent incidents appearing to become common, it is very clear that Jew haters are coming out of the woodwork and equally clear that the government doesn't know how to deal with it (given the Muslim vote in Labour constituencies).

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So, there you have it. Jews are being murdered by people of alien ideology. Nobody is murdering Muslims in the UK. The government is "appalled", "there is no place for antisemitism in the UK", "our thoughts and prayers ..."; all weasel words.

What is worse, the impressionable teenagers find it easy to criticise Israel to the extent of distaste for British Jews

Oh yes - the enemy is already here in critical mass, and still coming.

How much of what I've said above is drivel @TheDaddy?

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Fair enough - possibly. But it seems to me that everyone else, or at least everyone of a reasonable disposition, didn't need to ask that question

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You appear to be implying that because Mr M asked that question, he is not of a reasonable disposition...

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36214839)

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You appear to be implying that because Mr M asked that question, he is not of a reasonable disposition...

<SNIP>

Trust you to twist things round to stir the pot

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Oh - and it is not reasonable to accuse me of always posting "drivel".

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36214840)

Trust you to twist things round to stir the pot

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Oh - and it is not reasonable to accuse me of always posting "drivel".

How - you said that people of a reasonable disposition didn’t need to ask that question.

The obvious corollary of that is that by asking the question, the questioner isn’t of a reasonable disposition.

If that’s not what you meant, what did you mean?