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A Referendum is a once in a lifetime event. As it should be. We don’t keep having the same Referendum because the losers side didn’t like the result of the first.

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That's exactly what Nigel Farage suggested if he lost 48-52!

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No one is suggesting we keep having the same referendum.

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Exactly, and if a party puts in its manifesto that it will re-join the EU, you can vote for them then.

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What are you suggesting then?

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Yes, they most certainly are Andrew. Anything which gives the losing side a chance to vote again and again and again, until they get what they want.

One vote is all that was required and the decision taken was to leave the EU and that is exactly what is and should be happening.

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I didn't say the poll was fake news. I said it was contrived to produce the result they wanted.

Choose any subject and ask the public to put a number on it and it will make that public look stupid, because unless they study the subject intently, people are bound to get it wrong.

However, considering the Angua principle, it would appear that your mind is closed to any pro-Brexit article or response, despite this option having been selected by the British electorate.

Not very democratic of you, old chap.

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So, once again we come back to this desire to see choices given to the public on the kind of Brexit they want. What's that, then?

I'll tell you. It's between whether we run with the best deal Theresa May can get with the EU or it's a Brexit with no deal.

Given that a Brexit with no deal is not what you want and will not resolve your precious Northern Ireland/Republic of Ireland border issue, I would have thought that you would have abandoned that wish to give the electorate another say, Andrew. If you want to believe the media take on this, nobody likes the Chequers arrangement and we'd get a 'hard Brexit' (or just Brexit, pure and simple), however you want to look at it.

Why would you be advocating a vote when the public is unlikely to go for the EU deal? I think it's time you re-thought this, because you're starting to unravel. :eek:

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Mmmmm ... *thinks* do I reply with the same childlike name calling or try and debate like adult *thinks*

Ok, let's try the grown up route (again): you are so wrong on this count. Trying to equate a supposed once-a-generation referendum with a 5 yearly General Election is just daft. You are comparing apples with oranges and saying they are the same.

There is large part of this country who believe that a vote run by Criminals, lead by Liars and Political Charlatans, based on deceit & misinformation needs validating in light of the reality only now being faced by the country.

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Crikey, I've never heard Dave Camerons lot be described like that before :p:

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You've heard of Spreadsheet Phil? Have you not heard of Cameron's mate -Spread lies Boris? ;)

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[QUOTE=ianch99;35968463]Mmmmm ... *thinks* do I reply with the same childlike name calling or try and debate like adult *thinks*

Ok, let's try the grown up route (again): you are so wrong on this count. Trying to equate a supposed once-a-generation referendum with a 5 yearly General Election is just daft. You are comparing apples with oranges and saying they are the same.

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No I'm not. At the centre of this lies the electorate - be it Referendum or Election. They'll grumble and whinge whenever they want to.

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Nice bit of grown up name calling there.

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Old Boy, you can't pretend that everything you disagree with is a conspiracy to make Brexit look like bad news!
You must get your head out of the Reddit sand and accept that the world isn't some kind of George Soros globalist plot and accept that independent analysis is just that. Your mind seems to be entirely shut to the possibility that our civil servants and academics are actually doing their jobs properly!

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Andrew, you seem to place a great deal of trust and faith in polls & analysis carried out by civil servants, academics, and independent polling companies.

I wonder if your cats eat Whiskers (9 out of 10 prefer it), and your wife (or partner) uses the anti wrinkle cream that 47 of the 61 people polled say actually makes them look younger.

I also doubt you have 2.4 children :D ;)

I'm sure that the people behind these things believe the results achieved, otherwise there would be no point to them.

PS, apparently in the next 50 years or so my house could be under 6ft of water (global warming) but up to now I have refrained from building an Ark :p:

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Well done, you’ve finally understood.

Mmmmmm *thinks* should I reply to that spew of verbal diarrhoea * thinks*

Nope, there’s nothing intelligent enough in there to reply to.

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The intelligent approach is to look at the purpose of the research. If it's independent advice to the government on scenario-planning then I put weight on it, for sure. If it's outpurt from academic specialists which studies this area then yes.
If it's something to sell consumer goods then I put my professional sceptic hat on.
It's knowing when to wear which hat which is important and not wearing one hat all the time.