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vm_tech 16-12-2016 14:12
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Doesnt exactly come through a tuner. VOD allocated a few frequencies, can't remember how many exactly. The return path is needed to send the request to the VOD server, then a session is opened on the selected program then gets sent to the STB via the allocated VOD frequencies. In effect it's still an internet connection just to a walled garden

spiderplant 16-12-2016 14:31
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by graeme.owen (Post 35876055)
Has anyone tried connecting to none virgin broadband and seeing if the on demand works?
Unfortunately there's no way knowing without trying it. Even if it did work for someone else that doesn't necessarily mean it would for you.

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Originally Posted by graeme.owen (Post 35876055)
We have technical issues in our area, and virgin can only provide TV and not broadband or phone service.
I'm curious. I wasn't aware that there were any areas like that any more.

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Originally Posted by vm_tech (Post 35876064)
Doesnt exactly come through a tuner. VOD allocated a few frequencies, can't remember how many exactly. The return path is needed to send the request to the VOD server, then a session is opened on the selected program then gets sent to the STB via the allocated VOD frequencies. In effect it's still an internet connection just to a walled garden
No, it really does come through a tuner. Try using VOD when you've got 3 recordings in progress (or 6 on a V6) and see what happens

graeme.owen 16-12-2016 15:34
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35876069)
Unfortunately there's no way knowing without trying it. Even if it did work for someone else that doesn't necessarily mean it would for you.


I'm curious. I wasn't aware that there were any areas like that any more.


No, it really does come through a tuner. Try using VOD when you've got 3 recordings in progress (or 6 on a V6) and see what happens
Apparently there is damage which would require the road being dug up - we live on a red route in central London and I was advised a few years back that the cost was too great to virgin vs the number of impacted users

vm_tech 16-12-2016 16:20
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35876069)
Unfortunately there's no way knowing without trying it. Even if it did work for someone else that doesn't necessarily mean it would for you.


I'm curious. I wasn't aware that there were any areas like that any more.


No, it really does come through a tuner. Try using VOD when you've got 3 recordings in progress (or 6 on a V6) and see what happens
Fair enough, I was speaking about more the transmission side of it rather then the CPE side, don't have any dealings with TV nowadays, so a bit out of touch with it!

muppetman11 16-12-2016 20:41
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875868)
Well tried some downloads all restricted and a 390mb download takes 27 mins, I ran a download via BBC iPlayer of 650 MB took 3 mins

https://youtu.be/dDHcPBWVeLs
That's ridiculously slow , to download an hour show (recording) from box to Android phone it takes me around 2 mins and around 4 mins for a 90 min movie.

PtolemyIV 17-12-2016 00:06
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I believe you do need to have the v6s connected to virgin media broadband for it it to work. I understand from the helpful technicians they currently have supporting that the v6 does check for this - in fact, it consequently wont even work behind a vpn.

Finally I now got my setup working - (1) I had to phone up and get the technician to reset some settings and force a re-install (resetting on my end did nothing alone) and (2) I had to login and authenticate netflix using the hub in router mode - only then could I switch back to modem mode, and set up my own router with its own dns settings and simply set up a policy routing so that the ip addresses of my 2 v6 boxes dont go through the vpn.

This seems to all be working for now...

In case of interest I also got told what the tech specs of the boxes are (am sure this is public) but in case not - 1.6ghz dual core processor, 1gb SSD (i was surprised too but apparently only £25 wholesale in their volumes), 3gb ddr ram, gigabit ethernet and AC/B/G/N. The previous tivo was 800mhz single core, sata drives, 1gb ram and 10mb cable modem.

jb66 17-12-2016 00:15
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
No way does it have a SSD, I can hear it

carbon60 17-12-2016 00:57
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PtolemyIV (Post 35876138)
I believe you do need to have the v6s connected to virgin media broadband for it it to work. I understand from the helpful technicians they currently have supporting that the v6 does check for this - in fact, it consequently wont even work behind a vpn.
I misinterpreted your original question and didn't realise that you were tunnelling all internet traffic over VPN. Mine is simply a site to site connecting two networks together.

From what you say it indicates that the V6 services are only available on Virgin Media's internal network and not available to the wider internet.

OhReally 17-12-2016 01:09
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by PtolemyIV (Post 35876138)
[snip]
In case of interest I also got told what the tech specs of the boxes are (am sure this is public) but in case not - 1.6ghz dual core processor, 1gb SSD (i was surprised too but apparently only £25 wholesale in their volumes), 3gb ddr ram, gigabit ethernet and AC/B/G/N.
That's 1 Tb SSd surely? You can't buy an SSD that small.

I'll be surprised they can get it that cheap, cheapest a quick search throws up is this one @ £255

That implies VM are getting a 90% discount :shocked:

jb66 17-12-2016 08:02
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35876148)
That's 1 Tb SSd surely? You can't buy an SSD that small.

I'll be surprised they can get it that cheap, cheapest a quick search throws up is this one @ £255

That implies VM are getting a 90% discount :shocked:
Its not a SSD

PtolemyIV 17-12-2016 13:06
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Yes, I do mean 1TB drive of course.

Re. SSD or SATA, I totally agree with you and £25 a drive does seem impossible whoever you are... so you are most likely right but the guy was oddly adamant despite my repeated probing whilst I waited for the box to reboot! To the extent I was asking how to safely turn off the box and he was like 'oh, just pull the switch - its ssd so doesnt matter'

Mythica 17-12-2016 14:20
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I think it's really unfair that users still on 152Mb waiting on the 200Mb free upgrade will not get the promotion price for the V6 box.

BenMcr 17-12-2016 15:09
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I'm pretty sure that shouldn't be the case.

Mythica 17-12-2016 15:32
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35876222)
I'm pretty sure that shouldn't be the case.
One of the staff for Virgin said it was on the community forums.

JohnWB 17-12-2016 17:18
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I am getting a V6 box next month to replace one of my Tivos. If I want to get a second V6 box later to replace my other Tivo, does anyone know what that would cost.


I seem to remember that its only the £64 installation fee or am I wrong.


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