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Indeed they are, as could be said for anyone who believes societies ills are because of public spending, benefit claimants or the number of immigrants in the UK, and not the industrial scale of tax evasion/avoidance.

The financial crisis wasn’t caused because I used to get by bin emptied once a week.

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Tory MP condemns decision to continue to deprive bereaved families of benefits, despite Supreme Court ruling:

https://welfareweekly.com/bereaved-f...-court-ruling/

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The article isn’t well written but Frank Field MP is Labour and appears to be the one condemning. The unnamed Tory minister appears to justify it.

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Frank Field was Labour, but is now independent and AFAIK is standing as an independent in his Birkenhead constituency at this election.

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1) Nothing whatsoever connected to the links in the post I was replying to.
2) Nothing whatsoever to do with benefits.
3) Nothing whatsoever to do with nonsense claim of 100,000+ deaths of people who were merely receiving benefits.
4) Not much was changed prior to 2013, after which the main changes came in, and yet.
So more cuts from 2013, led to fewer deaths.:confused:
5) 2010 should be discounted from any figures, because any budgets will have been set by Labour.
6) The figures are based upon per person. If you let over 1m people in, the per person figure will go down. As the incomers were supposedly younger and more healthy, a smaller proportion of them will have needed social care. That again distorts the true per person figures.

7) Cuts started BEFORE 2010.Link

As the 2009/10 figure was an 8% drop, it can be concluded that the 9 years of 2010/2011 to 2018/2019 had an average increase of 2.5%. Yet the annual average increase under Labour was 2.2%.
8) Aspects of Social Care have been devolved to councils. Makes coming up with the true budget figure more complicated.

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https://fullfact.org/health/adult-so...nurse-numbers/

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BBC reporting that between December 2011 and February 2014, 90 people a month died after being found totally fit to go out to work:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34074557

All party group of MP's calls for Camerons two child limit to be scrapped:

https://welfareweekly.com/no-governm...benefit-limit/

New fund to help vulnerable people claim Universal Credit excludes those too ill to work!

https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2019/...-need-it-most/

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The BBC aren't "reporting"* it, they reported** it, over 4 years ago...

btw, the word "totally" isn't used in that article.

*present tense...

**past tense...

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For the umpteenth time, anything that happens close to the changeover has nothing to do with the government that takes over. No new rules were in place until 28th of March the following year. Any new rules wouldn't have applied to anyone applying before 28th March 2011. The new rules were mostly, if not all, suggested under Labour, eg use of of wheelchair only giving 9 points rather than 15.
7,540 people died in the assessment phase, compared to 2,380 who died after found "fit for work". Those in the "fit for work" group will still have had the reconsideration and appeals phases to go, and would've still been receiving ESA all that time. Even then they were ALL still receiving ESA or JSA, otherwise the DWP wouldn't know about them, and wouldn't be included in that figure. As the numbers of people that didn't die aren't included, it's impossible to assess the comparative mortality rates. Even more so when the pre-2010 figures are not there, and conveniently not asked for in the first place.

BUNCH OF MEANINGLESS FIGURES FROM 4 YEARS AGO.

Still nowhere near the claimed figures of 100,000+ deaths.

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Tories back candidate who thinks that benefit claimants should be "put down":

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-remarks-gower

Since benefits were frozen and people were pushed below the poverty line at the same time as cuts were made to other benefits, the Trussell Trust has found that most food bank users are now living on an average of £50 a week after housing costs have been paid. They are expected to pay bills and buy food with this, so the Trusell Tr7st has called on the Government to increase benefits. Next years increase of about £1 a week is nowhere near enough and has probably only been done due to the forthcoming general election:

https://welfareweekly.com/food-bank-...earch-reveals/

Video about the real effects of Universal Credit on people:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dtKI_B7RghI

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https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...P=share_btn_tw

More DWP lies with your hard earned taxes.

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What else can you expect from the Kafkaesque DWP.

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Independent report on Tory austerity deaths:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...OkkVyODCREj_Vg

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