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Carth 17-03-2018 14:39

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35940975)
Typical of the corrupt EU telling us what we can do, in our own god damn waters. NO DEAL!

Too right Mick, if they want 'our' fish they can pay for it :tu:

. . . and while we're at it, they can keep their damn snow too. They keep sending us the stuff knowing how much it disrupts the country :D

Mr K 17-03-2018 14:44

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35940986)
. . . and while we're at it, they can keep their damn snow too. They keep sending us the stuff knowing how much it disrupts the country :D

It's direct from Russia - no coincidence, gas supply next ! Still, I'm off to a much warmer welcoming part of the EU for a couple of weeks :)

Carth 17-03-2018 14:51

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35940987)
I'm off to a much warmer welcoming part of the EU for a couple of weeks :)

Happy Hols Mr K :D

Please find enclosed my advance order for 1000 cigs and 5 bottles of decent Brandy :p:

jonbxx 17-03-2018 15:03

Re: Brexit discussion
 
From that FT article, fishing contributes a stonking 0.05% of our GDP. It’s amazing the amount of coverage the industry gets considering its size. Manufacturing is 400x bigger and services is 1600x bigger as a contribution to GDP.

Carth 17-03-2018 15:33

Re: Brexit discussion
 
I love my Fish & chips, much healthier and satisfying than a Macdonalds :)

Shame that families now prefer the latter for 'convenience'

OLD BOY 17-03-2018 21:19

Re: Brexit discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35940995)
I love my Fish & chips, much healthier and satisfying than a Macdonalds :)

Shame that families now prefer the latter for 'convenience'

Just remember to spit the plastic out. :D

1andrew1 17-03-2018 21:19

Re: Brexit discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35940995)
I love my Fish & chips, much healthier and satisfying than a Macdonalds :)

Shame that families now prefer the latter for 'convenience'

I reckon fish and chip sales stil surpass McDonalds. There are 10,500 fish and chip outlets compared to 1,200 McDonalds.
http://www.federationoffishfriers.co...igures-603.htm

OLD BOY 17-03-2018 21:21

Re: Brexit discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35940975)
Typical of the corrupt EU telling us what we can do, in our own god damn waters. NO DEAL!

Well, Mick, it's only for another couple of years. If we get what we want from the deal, does that really matter?

Annoying, yes, but a deal breaker? I don't think so.

1andrew1 17-03-2018 21:33

Re: Brexit discussion
 
Britain has apparently conceded most issues at "supersonic speed" so good progress has been made but the Irish border remains a sticking point.
Quote:

The EU side is holding out for Britain to explicitly acknowledge that a draft EU “protocol” on Ireland — outlining a “backstop” option to avoid a hard border — is a sound basis for negotiations, according to officials involved in talks. “We’re not trying to be tough,” said one EU ambassador. “We just need clarity...One EU negotiator said they expect “frantic” discussions over the weekend, with the aim of completing a deal with David Davis, the Brexit secretary, on Monday. The negotiator said he was still “confident” a deal was possible next week.
https://www.ft.com/content/81058592-...e-cc62a39d57a0

OLD BOY 17-03-2018 22:40

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35941039)
Britain has apparently conceded most issues at "supersonic speed" so good progress has been made but the Irish border remains a sticking point.

https://www.ft.com/content/81058592-...e-cc62a39d57a0

We're getting there. And I don't think the border issues will be a problem in the end.

1andrew1 17-03-2018 23:03

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35941043)
We're getting there. And I don't think the border issues will be a problem in the end.

It certainly won't be if we take the same approach as we have all the other negotiating points, i.e. concede.

Quote:

The Times
The Irish government will insist that Theresa May publicly renounces her opposition to the EU’s “backstop” plans for the Irish border.

Last month Mrs May told British MPs that the EU’s draft text of a withdrawal treaty was something “no UK prime minister could ever agree to” because it would effectively create a new border in the Irish Sea between Britain and Northern Ireland.

The British government has also said that the plan threatens the “constitutional integrity” of the UK.

The Times understands, however, that Ireland, France and the European Commission are demanding that Britain agree “publicly and unambiguously” that the draft text can form the basis for negotiations. The Irish government could threaten to block negotiations this spring unless Mrs May backs down.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/i...exit-psjvwld8g

With the weight of the EU behind it, Ireland is in a very strong position to get its way.

Dave42 17-03-2018 23:40

Re: Brexit discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35941044)
It certainly won't be if we take the same approach as we have all the other negotiating points, i.e. concede.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/i...exit-psjvwld8g

With the weight of the EU behind it, Ireland is in a very strong position to get its way.

and the Brextremists still think we in strong position it unbelievable

1andrew1 17-03-2018 23:51

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35941049)
and the Brextremists still think we in strong position it unbelievable

If we were in a strong position, we wouldn't have conceded on areas such as the 21-month transition and fisheries. It's not that David Davis is a particularly poor negotiator, it's just that the EU holds all the cards.

Dave42 17-03-2018 23:59

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35941052)
If we were in a strong position, we wouldn't have conceded on areas such as the 21-month transition and fisheries. It's not that David Davis is a particularly poor negotiator, it's just that the EU holds all the cards.

exactly and who can forget the famous this will be easiest deal in history from the brextremist Liam Fox but they wont admit reality no matter what

1andrew1 18-03-2018 01:40

Re: Brexit discussion
 
Hmm, so does this mean we have to remain in the single market and establish a new customs union with the EU until our IT infrastructure is in place?
Quote:

The Sunday Times (a pro-Brexit newspaper)
Britain’s customs system will not be ready in time for the start of its new relationship with the European Union at the end of 2020, according to a damning report presented in secret to senior cabinet ministers last week.
The readiness assessment, drawn up by senior civil servants, was given to Theresa May’s Brexit war cabinet on Tuesday afternoon. But ministers did not get a chance to study it properly before the meeting was cut short by a Commons vote.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/i...exit-psjvwld8g


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