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1andrew1 17-07-2017 21:05
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And so the shambles continues.
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The former head of the Vote Leave campaign has branded the Brexit Secretary as “thick as mince” and “as lazy as a toad”. Dominic Cummings said David Davis’s Repeal Bill contained provisions that would allow ministers to cave into EU demands at the last minute.
Mr Cummings’s outburst reflects continuing disagreement between different wings of the Brexit movement, which saw intense infighting at the time of last year’s EU referendum.
It comes on the same day that Mr Davis made a half-day trip to Brussels to negotiate with EU officials, where he faced criticism for being pictured sitting down for talks without any notes. In the photograph, Mr Davis’s approach was in stark contrast to the European Commission negotiators, who sat with large piles of briefing papers in organised binders.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7845911.html

papa smurf 17-07-2017 21:16
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wow organised binders eh

i'm having mince for tea tomorrow .

Kursk 18-07-2017 00:26
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35908213)
wow organised binders eh
We know they're good at bureaucracy, one of the many reasons for getting out.

TheDaddy 18-07-2017 07:25
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35908213)
wow organised binders eh

i'm having mince for tea tomorrow .
Failure to prepare is preparing to fail, or something like that. Whilst we're at it are toads particularly lazy, bit toadist if you ask me. Anyway enjoy the mince, hope it's nice and thick.

pip08456 18-07-2017 07:52
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He wasn't there to negotiate though.

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Brexit secretary David Davis took part in less than an hour of discussions with the EU on the first day of substantive negotiations with Brussels before his early return to Westminster...

...Davis’s departure from Brussels came shortly after he had called for the negotiating teams to “get down to business”.

TheDaddy 18-07-2017 09:13
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35908236)
He wasn't there to negotiate though.
Just as well, what with him having no fancy binders, wonder if him being lazy played a part in him not negotiating to

pip08456 18-07-2017 09:17
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35908243)
Just as well, what with him having no fancy binders, wonder if him being lazy played a part in him not negotiating to
They have negotiating teams to negotiate, Politicians only attend for photoshoots!

TheDaddy 18-07-2017 09:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35908245)
They have negotiating teams to negotiate, Politicians only attend for photoshoots!

See lazy, Dominic shortcummings was right

papa smurf 18-07-2017 10:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35908245)
They have negotiating teams to negotiate, Politicians only attend for photoshoots!
maybe he was dictating what they are getting rather than the other way round .

or he was waiting for Badger mole and ratty to do the talking

heero_yuy 18-07-2017 13:21
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35907924)
It's not anti-democratic for someone to believe a democratic choice that has been made was wrong and to argue against it.
Mmm. So even though my MP got a majority I can campaign against the decision on the basis that the voters weren't given the full story and need to have another "go". Glad you like democracy in action. :rolleyes:

Ramrod 18-07-2017 13:28
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The concensus on the Today programme on R4 this moring was that you should be prepared enough in negotiations that you don't need reams of paper and organised binders in front of you. Any more than a notebook or piece of card for notes and something is wrong with your approach.

daveeb 18-07-2017 15:15
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35908283)
The concensus on the Today programme on R4 this moring was that you should be prepared enough in negotiations that you don't need reams of paper and organised binders in front of you. Any more than a notebook or piece of card for notes and something is wrong with your approach.
Good luck to anyone trying to condense Brexit down to a few bullet points on a crib card. :shocked:

Ramrod 18-07-2017 16:37
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No one would :confused:

daveeb 18-07-2017 17:23
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35908315)
No one would :confused:
It's not notes you need , it's information to hand. A bit like a barrister in a court case, they take in trolley loads of paperwork and Brexit is bound to be more complex than any one court case. If there was an easier way of doing things i'm sure it would be adopted by now.

papa smurf 18-07-2017 17:31
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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 35908319)
It's not notes you need , it's information to hand. A bit like a barrister in a court case, they take in trolley loads of paperwork and Brexit is bound to be more complex than any one court case. If there was an easier way of doing things i'm sure it would be adopted by now.
didn't the PDA replace trolley loads of paperwork several years ago and any one can fit one in a jacket pocket even david davis ;)

these days it's ipads and smartphones even i have a notepad app

Microsoft Word Document

200 words in a one page Microsoft word doc = 8KB
That = 128 pages in 1MB (1,024 divided by 8)
That = 131,072 pages in 1GB (1,024 times 128)

roughly 130,000 Word pages per 1GB of memory.


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