Cable Forum - General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 1.

I guess it's ITV's content and they want to make money out of it, but it's a loss to Virgin's on demand offering, especially as it now doesn't appear that there is likely to be any uktv content coming.

Virgin have the best platform to offer on demand programming, but appear to have come away from investing in it in favour of bulking up their channel packages.

Would have thought they could have sorted a deal to keep at least on xl pack,weird that it disappears at the the same time itv 2,3,4 HD were supposed to appear but didn't.Suspect contractual problems is the technical differculty why they have not appeared yet,if it is then we will never be told what is going on
Virgin had the best platform to offer demand ,but I'm afraid were on demand is concerned it slowly dying.suspect sky to surpasses it by the end of the year and bt the same,3rd spot is becoming more a reality earlier than I thought

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35546329)

But clearly they haven't here try and read the link , ITV OD content is available on Sky , Netflix and BT Vision so ask ITV and VM what the situation is.

Who knows the ITV content could be linked with a deal for the additional ITV HD channels.

Should know by now sky get the blame for everything and vm are happy to stay silent and let customers think that,wonder how long before bt start getting the blame as well:)

OLD BOY

09-03-2013 17:14

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Maybe VM are thrashing out a better deal. After all, if we continue to get ITV On Demand 'free' as part of the XL pack, wouldn't that be worth the slight delay? Something is bound to happen when the ESPN deal expires, let's just wait and see. Might even get Atlantic....!

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Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35546233)

I just got this back from the VM Twitter:
Virgin Media‏@virginmedia
@LondonJohn1959 We apologise for exciting everyone. We're just waiting on the delivery truck on this one & will keep everyone posted ^Wm
Again, no straight answer... :(

It's just a technical hitch, john. What's the big deal?

spj20016

09-03-2013 17:24

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35546329)

But clearly they haven't here try and read the link , ITV OD content is available on Sky, Netflix and BT Vision so ask ITV and VM what the situation is.

Who knows the ITV content could be linked with a deal for the additional ITV HD channels.

Maybe VM are close to doing a deal with Netflix and think we can get the ITV programmes from there. Also would be another reason for customers to upgrade to TiVo.

Chad	09-03-2013 17:49

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Is it really to Virgins advantage to add Netflix and Lovefilm? Would adding both really be such a big selling point to attract or keep customers in their droves? I'd imagine Virgin wouldn't exactly make mega bucks from the deals. In fact it would probably harm their own movie rental service, Virgin Movies, more than anything else.

spj20016

09-03-2013 18:00

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It might not be a great advantage to VM but it would be a great advantage to the customers. It would give us more access to more content. And I don't think it would make much difference to the Virgin Movies service because I suspect most films rented are the new releases.

jj20x

09-03-2013 18:28

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35546168)

Don't be saying things like that, people on here believe everything. I'm just glad we don't stone people any more because me and you would be for it.

I know and it was far more plausible than the post-dated cheque theory. ;)

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Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35546233)

Gosh! did nobody tell the Twitter team that the channels are being delivered on a sleigh, not a delivery truck. ;)

spiderplant

09-03-2013 20:12

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35546350)

In fact it would probably harm their own movie rental service, Virgin Movies, more than anything else.

Virgin Movies is owned by FilmFlex, which in turn is owned by Sony & Disney.

ocav	09-03-2013 21:19

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I wonder how much The ESPN wholesale price is, lets just say it's around Â£6 per XL Customer a month. Maybe they are developing a Netflix app and giving away subscriptions as part of the XL pack? Similar to the Spotify deal.

Netflix hardly challenges Virgin Movies. Virgin Movies premieres new films on a PPV basis at around Â£4-Â£5 each. Netflix shows back catalogue programming (which mostly isn't available on VM OD) as well as a small selection of mostly terrible films. Hardly any competition really in my opinion.

Ill be quite happy if this is the case, netflix is sometimes quite useful but expensive if you already have Sky Movies.

HDFootyMan

09-03-2013 21:24

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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35546421)

I wonder how much The ESPN wholesale price is, lets just say it's around Â£6 per XL Customer a month

I seen it reported that its 20p per XL subscriber.

Henkesghost

09-03-2013 21:26

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35546423)

I seen it reported that its 20p per XL subscriber.

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ocav	09-03-2013 21:36

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35546423)

I seen it reported that its 20p per XL subscriber.

Surely not per month?

More like per day

andy_m

09-03-2013 21:39

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That can't be right. I was always under the impression that Virgin took a loss on it so as not to lose xl customers.

OLD BOY

09-03-2013 21:54

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35546350)

Is it really to Virgins advantage to add Netflix and Lovefilm? Would adding both really be such a big selling point to attract or keep customers in their droves?

Yes, it is, Chad, and this is precisely what Mr Berkett was saying recently. It's all about content, and if VM has more content than any other provider, people will go for VM rather than Sky.

VM will take their cut, obviously.

At present, Virgin Movies is a PPV service, and I for one won't use that very often because I might not like the film I select, but I've paid the money for it anyway. Would much prefer a subscription service, which gives me more flexibility.

I haven't used Virgin Movies for over a year now.

Bofrok

09-03-2013 22:32

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35546429)

That can't be right. I was always under the impression that Virgin took a loss on it so as not to lose xl customers.

Hi Andy, I remember the 20p reports and did a quick search and found this taken from a reply by Chad to Muppetman on 3rd August 2011:

"Not really. A Virgin employee confirmed here last year that the deal for ESPN costs Virgin no more than 20p per XL customer per month."

The full post can be found at http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35282820-post923.html

I couldnt find the original quote, perhaps someone else can.