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papa smurf 15-07-2017 09:50
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35907917)
He may be a remoaner and I may despise the man but at last a bit of common sense from Blair.



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be careful he wants back into politics ;)

Osem 15-07-2017 10:33
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35907917)
He may be a remoaner and I may despise the man but at last a bit of common sense from Blair.



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The only bit he's right about is the Corbyn bit. Corbyn would soon leave the UK on it's back just like previous Labour governments have.

Bliar's a first class, grade A egotist of the highest order. He can't take a step back from the political limelight any more than he can accept he's wrong. The only democracy he's interested in is that which supports his view, if it doesn't it's because the electorate have got it wrong and need to be better informed.

GrimUpNorth 15-07-2017 10:46
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35907920)
He can't take a step back from the political limelight any more than he can accept he's wrong. The only democracy he's interested in is that which supports his view, if it doesn't it's because the electorate have got it wrong and need to be better informed.
Can I just clarify - is that you or Tony you're taking about? ;););)

Cheers

Dave

Damien 15-07-2017 11:04
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It's not anti-democratic for someone to believe a democratic choice that has been made was wrong and to argue against it.

pip08456 15-07-2017 11:06
Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35907920)
The only bit he's right about is the Corbyn bit. Corbyn would soon leave the UK on it's back just like previous Labour governments have.

Bliar's a first class, grade A egotist of the highest order. He can't take a step back from the political limelight any more than he can accept he's wrong. The only democracy he's interested in is that which supports his view, if it doesn't it's because the electorate have got it wrong and need to be better informed.
That's the only part I was referring to and he totally got it spot on. Corbyn would be a disaster as PM.

Osem 15-07-2017 11:07
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35907925)
That's the only part I was referring to and he totally got it spot on. Corbyn would be a disaster as PM.
Phew - for a minute I thought you'd lost your marbles... ;)

papa smurf 15-07-2017 11:14
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35907924)
It's not anti-democratic for someone to believe a democratic choice that has been made was wrong and to argue against it.
no it's contempt for democracy

pip08456 15-07-2017 11:15
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35907926)
Phew - for a minute I thought you'd lost your marbles... ;)
To lose them I would have to have some in the first place!:D

Osem 15-07-2017 11:43
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35907924)
It's not anti-democratic for someone to believe a democratic choice that has been made was wrong and to argue against it.
He can argue against the decision 'til the cows come home that's up to him. What's not up to him and what is anti-democratic is to lobby behind the scenes to try to change the result or try to keep us in the EU when we voted to leave.

1andrew1 15-07-2017 14:11
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35907930)
no it's contempt for democracy
That's what Nigel Farage did after the previous referendum. Was he showing contempt for democracy too?

papa smurf 15-07-2017 14:16
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35907957)
That's what Nigel Farage did after the previous referendum. Was he showing contempt for democracy too?
ask him

Osem 15-07-2017 14:29
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Lost me.

passingbat 15-07-2017 14:35
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35907882)


I posted an entirely accurate statement saying "There was never going to be any other decision despite Brextremists pipe-dreaming otherwise". What's wrong with that?


My reply was re the specific part of your post that I quoted.

1andrew1 15-07-2017 14:39
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35907964)
My reply was re the specific part of your post that I quoted.
I referenced Brextremists like John Redwood not Brexiters.

Osem 16-07-2017 16:02
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Well it seems Labour wants to have its cake and eat it when it comes to Brexit.
Who said so? Shadow Business Secretary Rebecca Long-Bailey who I'm sure would be the first to condemn any Tory who dared to utter such words as being arrogant, provocative, intransigent, out of touch, blah, blah, blah...

https://order-order.com/2017/07/16/r...want-cake-eat/

Can anyone seriously imagine the mess the UK would be in if people like this were actually in power? :spin:


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