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OLD BOY 05-03-2026 22:41
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36211796)
I have OB , like lots of others not fallling for 'upgrade' con. We all have a choice in the end, whether to remain VM customers. A freeview recorder will soon be superior to VMs offering.
Not if it doesn’t have profiles and on demand for a start. But hey, the modern world is not your bag, so that’s fine for you.

Just bear in mind that Freeview’s days are numbered, too.

Just sayin’…

Taz2k 06-03-2026 00:20
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36211813)
Not if it doesn’t have profiles and on demand for a start. But hey, the modern world is not your bag, so that’s fine for you.

Just bear in mind that Freeview’s days are numbered, too.

Just sayin’…
You know, some families watch TV together and have no need for these "modern world" profiles.

1701-e 06-03-2026 06:42
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Originally Posted by Taz2k (Post 36211814)
You know, some families watch TV together and have no need for these "modern world" profiles.
So they can just use the shared profile.... It's not obligatory though it suits Netflix, Prime, Disney plus etc

AdamDigital 06-03-2026 09:09
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36211810)
I can't see Sky being happy about their viewing figures and ad revenue being impacted by Virgin deliberately limiting the availability of the channel, especially on a long term basis.

When the Sky channels were removed from cable, analysists said that the situation was hurting Sky too because, as well as losing the carriage costs they were being paid, the decline in viewers had also not insignificantly affected their ad revenue.
Yes, very interesting. I did think that Sky might not be too happy with the TiVoV6 Faithful (as I've just named us) being denied access to Atlantic's channel of delights.

Taz2k 06-03-2026 10:22
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Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36211820)
So they can just use the shared profile.... It's not obligatory though it suits Netflix, Prime, Disney plus etc
Indeed, it's not obligatory, it's not an improvement, it's not necessary for...
(checks OldBoy's terminology)
"most people".

RichardCoulter 06-03-2026 11:08
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Originally Posted by AdamDigital (Post 36211829)
Yes, very interesting. I did think that Sky might not be too happy with the TiVoV6 Faithful (as I've just named us) being denied access to Atlantic's channel of delights.
Having now looked at the technicalities of Virgin adding Sky Atlantic, it has been added to the traditional cable TV spectrum ie it's not internet delivered. Virgin have deliberately used a code called 'hide1' so that the V6 won't show it on the EPG. It would be very simple for Virgin to remove this hide code so that the V6 shows the channel.

1701-e 06-03-2026 12:14
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Maybe the TiVo fee is about the same as the Atlantic fee.... Who knows what the agreement is?

RichardCoulter 06-03-2026 12:45
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Just read a post from a year ago that said that, as well as no series link manager & the inability to undelete, that one cannot make manual recordings on the 360!

Is this still the case, as the EPG is now so atrocious that manual recordings are essential? Whole days can be missing or one programne is listed for hours (today on Channel 4+1 it says that The Great Pottery Throw Down starts at 05;40 and ends at 00:05!!)

Without manual recording, I wouldn't have been able to record a fair few programmes later this evening.

TimeLord2018 06-03-2026 12:52
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It's more Sky Q than TiVo imo

Manual recordings can't be done on Sky Q either, it has no series link manager either.

RichardCoulter 06-03-2026 12:59
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Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36211852)
It's more Sky Q than TiVo imo

Manual recordings can't be done on Sky Q either, it has no series link manager either.
What's the quality of the Sky Q EPG like? If it's ok I would rarely need to do any manual recordings.

ozsat 06-03-2026 14:38
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The broadcasters update the listings themselves so should be correct - but things still go wrong. Links are not supported across channels so if Wimbledon tennis moves from BBC2 to BBC1 the EPG is updated but the recording will not take place.

Radio EPG does NOT allow series links so if you want to record (for example) The Archers then you have to set a recording for each day and remember to do this as new days are added. It is a 7-day guide.

Many of the errors I see on VirginMedia are also on Sky - pointing to the broadcaster being at fault.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36211853)
What's the quality of the Sky Q EPG like? If it's ok I would rarely need to do any manual recordings.

TimeLord2018 06-03-2026 15:05
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36211721)
Less than 1/3 have moved over and many regret it. The 360 is missing a long list of features, with only voice control being the one advantage for me.

You said that the 360 now has a system to take the place of 'suggestions', what is this please?

I wonder if those being denied Sky Atlantic will be able to access the programmes via VOD?
No
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But that’s not all. From 1 April a whole host of Sky Atlantic TV shows will also be available in On Demand, offering even more powerful and thought-provoking shows that stay with you long after the credits roll. You’ll also be able to watch it on the go using Virgin TV Go from your devices, including your iPhone, iPad, Android mobile or tablet, PC and Mac.

If you watch TV on our V6 or TiVo® box or if you have our Stream or 360 box without a Sky Basic package, you won’t be able to access Sky Atlantic or Sky Atlantic Box Sets when the channel launches on Wednesday 1 April.
https://www.virginmedia.com/the-edit...s-on-virgin-tv

david_w2k 07-03-2026 06:55
Re: TV360 - pro and cons
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36211850)
Just read a post from a year ago that said that, as well as no series link manager & the inability to undelete, that one cannot make manual recordings on the 360!

Is this still the case, as the EPG is now so atrocious that manual recordings are essential? Whole days can be missing or one programne is listed for hours (today on Channel 4+1 it says that The Great Pottery Throw Down starts at 05;40 and ends at 00:05!!)

Without manual recording, I wouldn't have been able to record a fair few programmes later this evening.
Plus the fact I discovered you cannot search for shows which are not on in the next 14 days - so couldn’t add everything….

These were all factors which made me get Virgin to restore my V6 software - yes it is possible (and technically straightforward) but took several escalations re being mis sold it!

Years ago Sky Atlantic would have been a big win but still not sure it would have convinced me given how bad the 360 is.

Kind of have best of both worlds currently as can record the few broadcast shows we watch and FF ads and then use Fire Stick for streaming services.


For years there has been lots of speculation about V6 forced migrations but personally I think they’ll just keep incentivising it more and then the point it is forced is eventual moves to FTTP

OLD BOY 07-03-2026 19:01
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Originally Posted by Taz2k (Post 36211814)
You know, some families watch TV together and have no need for these "modern world" profiles.
A great deal of my viewing is watched with my wife, but while we have a shared interest in good quality dramas and news/politics, my wife also likes reality shows, whereas I gravitate towards music, documentaries and more in-depth news analysis. So when I’m out, making dinner or working upstairs, my wife finds it very useful to have all her own shows in the watchlist with her profile.

Similarly, if my wife has started snoozing on the sofa or has gone to bed, I can watch the things I like on my profile.

If you have a family that likes all the same things, that is very unusual.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36211841)
Having now looked at the technicalities of Virgin adding Sky Atlantic, it has been added to the traditional cable TV spectrum ie it's not internet delivered. Virgin have deliberately used a code called 'hide1' so that the V6 won't show it on the EPG. It would be very simple for Virgin to remove this hide code so that the V6 shows the channel.
But they don’t want to, Richard. They would like you to voluntarily change your box!

Taz2k 07-03-2026 19:33
Re: TV360 - pro and cons
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36211943)
A great deal of my viewing is watched with my wife, but while we have a shared interest in good quality dramas and news/politics, my wife also likes reality shows, whereas I gravitate towards music, documentaries and more in-depth news analysis. So when I’m out, making dinner or working upstairs, my wife finds it very useful to have all her own shows in the watchlist with her profile.

Similarly, if my wife has started snoozing on the sofa or has gone to bed, I can watch the things I like on my profile.
Sure but you could also add both of your interests to a single profile and just pick out the ones that interest you. How crowded are your profiles to need 2?


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