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1andrew1 03-09-2023 13:15
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36159508)
A very fair objective piece………………

For the sake of balance.

he is, which is what make the comparison so stark
No he doesn’t and the author fails to state what they are.

I don’t disagree but nothing to do with his health and tells you all you need to know about the author’s position. So not a balanced piece. I would usually just stop there.

It’s not his age, it is the consistently well documented cognitive issues, that try as they might they cannot hide.

Well, let’s see Biden play 18 holes.

The was a video just the other day where Trump flicked the ball up with his putter and caught it.

I’m not saying that means he’s anything special but, as a golfer, I know that takes reflexes, coordination and a little skill.

unsubstantiated I.e. from the authors imagination

Trump has just done a long form interview with Carlson, he sells out arenas.

They won’t let you talk to Biden.

He is at risk. But that’s all.

And if not remembering people you’ve met, or what you said, is a sign of dementia, well. I’m 53 and that happens to me all the time.

All opinion

The whole thing is a third rate opinion piece.

Must do better.
One of the better defences of Trump I've seen.

Credit to Trump for the golf trick. However, given his lifetime's dedication to golf alongside his hobbies as President and CEO, it's not entirely unexpected.

Not remembering stuff is not opinion - if he forgot he forgot.

The rambling Tucker Carlson X fireside chat does nothing but demonstrate Trump's cognitive issues. Give him a proper interviewer and he'll be even more to pieces than he was with Carlson. And there seemed to be more fawning in that fireside chat than Dorries's infamous fangirl "interview" of Johnson on GBN.

But if anyone still has any doubt about his cognitive issues, look at his latest attempted money-earner: selling a T-shirt of him surrendering to the Georgia Police with the words "Never surrender" on it! :D
https://www.indy100.com/politics/tru...rrender-tshirt

Itshim 03-09-2023 18:49
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36159632)
One of the better defences of Trump I've seen.

Credit to Trump for the golf trick. However, given his lifetime's dedication to golf alongside his hobbies as President and CEO, it's not entirely unexpected.

Not remembering stuff is not opinion - if he forgot he forgot.

The rambling Tucker Carlson X fireside chat does nothing but demonstrate Trump's cognitive issues. Give him a proper interviewer and he'll be even more to pieces than he was with Carlson. And there seemed to be more fawning in that fireside chat than Dorries's infamous fangirl "interview" of Johnson on GBN.

But if anyone still has any doubt about his cognitive issues, look at his latest attempted money-earner: selling a T-shirt of him surrendering to the Georgia Police with the words "Never surrender" on it! :D
https://www.indy100.com/politics/tru...rrender-tshirt
And the t shirt was a runaway success

pip08456 04-09-2023 00:45
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
There's trouble at 't mill for Trump appearing.

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BREAKING: ABC News drops bombshell, reveals that “efforts to keep Donald Trump off the 2024 ballot under the 14th Amendment” are “gaining steam” as “election officials in key states are preparing legal challenges to Trump's candidacy.”

But it gets WAY worse for Donald Trump…

ABC reports that “Arizona, Michigan, and New Hampshire” are “gaining momentum” in their quest to keep insurrectionist Trump off the ballot — which would decimate Trump’s chances of winning in 2024.

Adding insult to injury for Trump, Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson tells ABC News that “she and other secretaries of state from Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada, New Hampshire and Maine started having conversations over a year ago about preparing for the legal challenges to Trump's candidacy.”

This news comes as legal scholars across America — from both sides of the political aisle — are calling for Trump to be banned due to Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment, which states that an elected official is not eligible to assume public office if that person "engaged in insurrection or rebellion against.”

That description fits Trump and his actions like a glove.

pip08456 04-09-2023 02:52
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Oh, and those t-shirt sales.

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BREAKING: Trump is poised to lose millions by using his mugshot to sell T-shirts if Fani Willis enforces Georgia’s copyright.

Various legal experts have noted, Trump’s sale of that mug shot, taken by the Fulton County sheriff, likely violates U.S. copyright laws.

This could mean the millions Trump is making off that photo may rightfully belong to the Fulton County sheriff — an entity that just happens to be in desperate need of funds to address the horrific conditions in the Fulton County Jail.

1andrew1 04-09-2023 06:53
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36159643)
And the t shirt was a runaway success
Looking stupid and losing money is not the conventional description of a runaway success.

pip08456 05-09-2023 17:28
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Oh dear Donald.

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BREAKING: Donald Trump is hit with more devastating news as January 6 Committee member Adam Schiff becomes the highest profile member of Congress to call for insurrectionist Trump to be banned from running for office under the 14th Amendment.

But it gets way WORSE for Trump…

In front of millions of live MSNBC viewers, Schiff declared that it’s “very clear” that Trump “engaged in acts of insurrection and rebellion against America’s government and gave aid and comfort to those who do” — so he MUST be “disqualified from the ballot because he fits the 14th Amendment’s ban on traitors and insurrectionists ‘to a ‘t.”

Congressman Schiff continued, encouraging Democrats to take this all the way up to the Supreme Court because even prominent conservative constitutional scholars believe that this is a “legitimate issue” — and that traitor Trump must be banned from running.

This new endorsement from Congressman Schiff is the latest sign that the will to ban Trump from running for office under the 14th Amendment is gaining steam. The damn appears to be breaking — and Trump worst nightmare just might be coming true.

Hugh 05-09-2023 18:47
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Here’s an article that goes into a bit more depth…

https://wapo.st/3P7dxnW

Damien 05-09-2023 19:14
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
Not sure that will work and will only embolden him and his supporters.

Americans saw what happened on January 6th, they saw his antics beforehand, and they saw his supporters storm the center of their democracy to overturn an election. They know all that and they get to decide to make of it.

Pierre 05-09-2023 20:50
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36159710)
Oh dear Donald.
Can demand all they want they have to prove it, and under 1st amendment rights it’s very difficult to pin that on him.

Hugh 06-09-2023 19:03
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2405713.html

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As he pleaded with a federal judge for leniency on 5 September, the former leader of the far-right Proud Boys admitted that Donald Trump lost the 2020 presidential election.

Enrique Tarrio, 39, was sentenced to 22 years in prison for orchestrating a failed plot to keep the former president in power – marking the longest sentence ever to date among the hundreds of cases connected to the Capitol riot on 6 January, 2021, an attack fuelled by Mr Trump’s false narrative that the election was “stolen” from him and “rigged” against him.

Before his sentence was handed down in US District Court in Washington DC, Tarrio apologised for his actions, branded the Capitol riot a “national embarrassment” and vowed that his days of meddling in politics are over.

He also publicly denounced his false claims that the election was “stolen” from Mr Trump.

“My candidate lost,” he admitted.

What happened on January 6 was a national embarrassment ... I do not think what happened that day was acceptable,” he said.

Choking up with emotion, Tarrio said that he had let his family down with his actions as he begged the judge not to rob him of his 40s behind bars.

“I am not a political zealot. Inflicting harm or changing the results of the election was not my goal,” Tarrio said. “Please show me mercy. I ask you that you not take my 40s from me.”

He added: “When I get back home I want nothing to do with politics, groups, activism or rallies ... and when you walk out that door your honour, I won’t be saying anything other than that.”

But the admission came too late to save him from being hit with the longest prison sentence to date over the Capitol riot that resulted in five deaths and hundreds of law enforcement officers injured.

US District Judge Timothy Kelly said that Tarrio was the “ultimate leader” of the Proud Boys’ conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election in Mr Trump’s favour.

Pierre 06-09-2023 20:19
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36159740)
A total irrelevance, but always nice to see the beaten beg for clemency.

Hugh 26-09-2023 22:02
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-...se-2023-09-26/

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Donald Trump and his family business were found liable for fraud on Tuesday by a New York judge in state Attorney General Letitia James' civil lawsuit accusing the former U.S. president of illegally inflating his assets and net worth.

The decision was issued by Justice Arthur Engoron of the New York state court in Manhattan.

James sued Trump in Sept. 2022, accusing him and the Trump Organization of lying for a decade about asset values and his net worth to get better terms on bank loans and insurance.

She has said Trump inflated his net worth by as much as $2.23 billion, and by one measure as much as $3.6 billion, on annual financial statements given to banks and insurers.

The attorney general has said assets whose values were inflated included Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, his penthouse apartment in Manhattan's Trump Tower, and various office buildings and golf courses.

Lawyers for Trump and the other defendants did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Engoron said James had established liability for false valuations of several properties, including Mar-a-Lago and the penthouse, and chided Trump for offering defenses in a deposition that were "wholly without basis in law or fact."

"He claims that if the values of the property have gone up in the years since the (financial statements) were submitted, then the numbers were not inflated at that time," Engoron wrote.

"He also seems to imply that the numbers cannot be inflated because he could find a 'buyer from Saudi Arabia' to pay any price he suggests."

A trial is scheduled for Oct. 2, and could last well into December.

1andrew1 26-09-2023 22:18
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36160745)
Hands up anyone who was surprised by this finding? Not me!

Hugh 26-09-2023 22:40
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Judge Engoron has found that Donald Trump committed fraud, and has ordered the cancellation of all of his New York business certificates, and the dissolution of the Trump Organization.

This explains it more clearly.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...les-rcna117493

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In case anyone needs a refresher, it was exactly a year ago this week when New York Attorney General Letitia James announced a sweeping lawsuit against the former president and the Trump Organization. The civil case was rather devastating: The state attorney general’s office, pointing to more than 200 instances of fraud over 10 years, announced that it was seeking roughly $250 million in civil penalties.

As a New York Times report explained, that case is still ongoing, but James' office has won "a major victory" now that a judge has concluded that Trump did, in fact, fraudulently inflate the value of his assets "to obtain favorable loans and insurance deals."

What this latest ruling indicates is that the evidence was so clear that a trial isn't necessary to prove the underlying claim about Trump defrauding lenders. The judge agreed that James' argument about Trump's financial misconduct was true, and elements of the defense from the former president were ultimately "preposterous."

The AP's report added that Engoron "ordered that some of Trump’s business licenses be rescinded as punishment, making it difficult or impossible for them to do business in New York, and said he would continue to have an independent monitor oversee the Trump Organization’s operations."
This means the trial starting next month will be limited to how much the defendants should pay in damages.

Mr K 27-09-2023 07:18
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He's very naughty boy! He cheats at golf too.


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