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Sephiroth 20-09-2021 17:13
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36093815)
The point being that two out of the three things you said were incorrect, so your method of ID’ing a terrorist was someone wearing a backpack on the London Underground might return a very high number of false positives… ;)
You're only interested in tripping me up. Whether the person in question is mumbling in Urdu or Arabic (and prolly holding a copy of the Koran in his hand - I've seen it myself) is of little importance. To go over it again with greater clarity:

1. A person with a backpack on the Underground etc;

2. That person being bearded and evidently Pakistani, Arabic or some other Muslim affiliated origin;

3 That person mumbling something that might be in Arabic or Urdu.

Everyone else in this thread will have understood the minimum words I used to describe the issue. To remind, I said:

Quote:
They used to wear backpacks on the London underground, long beards and mumbling in Arabic. Been a few years, though.

Chris 20-09-2021 17:19
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
You weren’t outlining an issue, you were offering a stereotype of precisely the same sort that resulted in the Metropolitan Police executing a young, entirely innocent Brazilian man on the London Underground.

Sephiroth 20-09-2021 17:33
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36093821)
You weren’t outlining an issue, you were offering a stereotype of precisely the same sort that resulted in the Metropolitan Police executing a young, entirely innocent Brazilian man on the London Underground.
You're picking on a single word "issue". Everyone knows what I mean. On the occasion I described, I exited the tube carriage as soon as I could. As I said, this was some time ago.

Chris 20-09-2021 18:15
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36093823)
You're picking on a single word "issue". Everyone knows what I mean. On the occasion I described, I exited the tube carriage as soon as I could. As I said, this was some time ago.
You know, I’ve been known to read the Bible in public. It comes with the job in my case though plenty of people I know do it anyway. I hope you don’t likewise categorise them as dangerous religious nutters to be run away from…

Hugh 20-09-2021 18:39
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36093666)
Do terrorists stand out in a crowd in any country? If they did, they wouldn’t be very good at being terrorists?
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36093772)
They used to wear backpacks on the London underground, long beards and mumbling in Arabic. Been a few years, though.
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36093820)
You're only interested in tripping me up. Whether the person in question is mumbling in Urdu or Arabic (and prolly holding a copy of the Koran in his hand - I've seen it myself) is of little importance. To go over it again with greater clarity:

1. A person with a backpack on the Underground etc;

2. That person being bearded and evidently Pakistani, Arabic or some other Muslim affiliated origin;

3 That person mumbling something that might be in Arabic or Urdu.

Everyone else in this thread will have understood the minimum words I used to describe the issue. To remind, I said:
You were specifically responding to a question - your response was inaccurate, and now you’re trying to move the goalposts by stating that anyone on the underground with dusky skin reading a book, wearing a backpack, and mumbling, is a potential terrorist?

Pointing out glaring inaccuracies in your statement is not "catching you out"…

Sephiroth 20-09-2021 19:05
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36093827)
You know, I’ve been known to read the Bible in public. It comes with the job in my case though plenty of people I know do it anyway. I hope you don’t likewise categorise them as dangerous religious nutters to be run away from…
Uncharacteristically for you, Chris, you're being silly.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36093830)
You were specifically responding to a question - your response was inaccurate, and now you’re trying to move the goalposts by stating that anyone on the underground with dusky skin reading a book, wearing a backpack, and mumbling, is a potential terrorist?

Pointing out glaring inaccuracies in your statement is not "catching you out"…
Whatever. Nearly everyone else (Chris piped up on your side) knows exactly what I mean are rolling their eyes when you nit-pick like you are doing.

Chris 20-09-2021 19:10
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
I think I know what you were driving at, and yes, I’m being silly but there’s a serious point behind it. I think you’re making generalisations that are unhelpful at best, and in extreme situations could be dangerous.

Maggy 21-09-2021 10:11
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
Hmm! I think this thread should be re titled as it's not got much to do with the heading at the moment.

Sephiroth 21-09-2021 10:18
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36093877)
Hmm! I think this thread should be re titled as it's not got much to do with the heading at the moment.
Agreed. What title do you suggest?

Maggy 21-09-2021 13:11
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36093880)
Agreed. What title do you suggest?
Or we could just get back to the topic..;) or just make it about the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Carth 21-09-2021 13:12
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
I remember Topic . . . a nutcase in every soundbite . . or sumfink ;)

Itshim 21-09-2021 23:17
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
How about what waste of time and money . Just a load of hot air .

1andrew1 26-09-2021 01:11
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
No - the Taliban haven't changed.

Yes - the bumbling duo of Johnson and Biden have blood on their hands.

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Taliban hang dead bodies in Afghan city
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsl...?ocid=msedgntp

pip08456 26-09-2021 03:19
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36094593)
No - the Taliban haven't changed.

Yes - the bumbling duo of Johnson and Biden have blood on their hands.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsl...?ocid=msedgntp
I'd be interested to know what the UK or other allies would have been able to do once the US "pulled the plug"?

Pierre 26-09-2021 09:09
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36094593)
No - the Taliban haven't changed.
Nobody expected them to.


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