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I mean the alternative is that Guido and Soubry aren't being entirely truthful. ;)

Labour didn't filibuster the debate in the same way any other parliamentary business yesterday wasn't a filibuster. They had tabled an amendment on extending the days for Private Members Bills by 13 days to reflect the double session of parliament. The Government have cancelled next years Queen's Speech to have a longer session but hadn't extended the days to debate bills not brought forward by the government.

The amendment was on the day's order of business: https://publications.parliament.uk/p...a/OP170717.pdf

It wasn't a filibusterer. It wasn't a surprise.

The debate was scheduled to be the last item of the day, if they were running long it was always going to be cancelled.

And the day got delayed because of urgent questions about the planned execution of 14 men and boys in Saudi Arabia and then the statement from Justine Greening about school funding.

So you might point at any one of the previous items and ask why that didn't count as the reason for the debate being stopped? Or you might ask why, if the debate was so important, it was shoved to the last item of the day when it's not uncommon these get bumped?But instead Guido, who surely knows full well how parliament works, blames it on an already scheduled amendment Labour had because it's a easy way to score points.

He is entitled to do that. But the BBC aren't going to follow him and nor it seems are most other news outlets.

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40% of the UK population, aparently. :disturbd:

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That's perfectly evident. Just like the Beeb isn't interested in what Corbyn's right hand man gets up to.

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Yup.

People need to be very careful about what they wish for. There's all sorts of nasty shenanigans going on under Corbyn's nose and to imagine he doesn't know about it is naive in the extreme.

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I am not talking about that. I am talking about the accusation of Labour filibustering a debate on abuse which wasn't true.

This is what 'bias' comes down too. It takes a quick look at the running order of Parliament to find out what actually happened yesterday but people prefer Guido's version irrespective of the truth of it.

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andrea ledsome complained of it in the house yesterday

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If they're concerned they should take it up with the speaker or reschedule the debate rather than pretend a scheduled debate on an amendment amounts to filibustering.

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Having complained so much about it they decided to waste time discussing other things. Call it what you like.

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I call it them using the allocated time for the pre-scheduled debate they booked. I would question why the abuse debate was pushed to the end of the day (rather than given a afternoon) when it's clear unexpected items to the agenda could force it out. The Education Secretary made a statement and took questions about the change in funding that wasn't scheduled and stuff like that is not uncommon in Parliament.

They should organise another debate and have it early afternoon.

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The are gullible voters of all ages but they have a vote just like you , me and everybody else so stop moaning as that is democracy at work me dear.:)

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Corbyn's voting cheats should PAY! Theresa May demands justice for student 'double-voting'


THE PRIME MINISTER has demanded that voting cheats are reported to the police and prosecuted amid growing evidence that student fraud could have significantly boosted Labour’s support in the election and stopped the Tories winning a majority.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...-Corbyn-Labour


"It is illegal to vote in more than one location in a general election or in other national polls, such as a referendum.

"It's clearly explained on the poll card. Conviction carries a financial penalty.

"If anyone has evidence of an individual voting twice at the same election, they should report it to the local returning officer and to the police."

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A more sober report makes it clear the Electoral Commission find the reports troubling but, at the moment, there isn't 'rising evidence'.

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The problem isn't the odd student voting two (or more ;)) times - not that it's a trick available to just students. The real problem lies with postal voting.


Cheers


Dave

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Posting voting isnt an issue, the stupid rule that you can register in two different places is the issue - postal voting makes that unnecessary, and it should be abolished.

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Hopefully the abuse of the system will ensure that next time out those in 'safe' seats in University towns who didn't bother to vote will get out and do so. The prospect that a load of students most of whom probably aren't going to live there, can remove a well liked MP ought to shake them up and if it doesn't they deserve what they get.

Given Labour's spectacular climb down over Corbyn's cynical pledge to deal with student debts, some of their MP's might well find themselves in that position.

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Canterbury is going to be a place where they might struggle to hold onto the seat as it would require a consistently high turnout from students. Especially if the election were held out of term time.