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Gavin78 08-12-2017 17:55

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35928052)
Are you really saying that the use of a flamethrower is a tool that anyone should be able to use?

What planet are you on????

yes we all have one in the shed don't we lol that's how much of a passing comment it was. seems land mines and blowing caravans up seems acceptable though. Even the police officer said it was an over-reaction but we are in times when people find things sensitive and they have to act on any comment that might offend that person.

Can you imagine the comments just seen on here alone sometimes. society is turning soft it's getting to the point it's best just to not say anything about anything.

"what planet are you on???" well I could find that insulting?

OLD BOY 08-12-2017 18:47

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Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35928087)
yes we all have one in the shed don't we lol that's how much of a passing comment it was. seems land mines and blowing caravans up seems acceptable though. Even the police officer said it was an over-reaction but we are in times when people find things sensitive and they have to act on any comment that might offend that person.

Can you imagine the comments just seen on here alone sometimes. society is turning soft it's getting to the point it's best just to not say anything about anything.

"what planet are you on???" well I could find that insulting?

Sounds a bit alienist to me. :D

Osem 09-12-2017 08:46

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35928092)
Sounds a bit alienist to me. :D

Yes, aliens everywhere will be up in arms... :D

RichardCoulter 09-12-2017 14:06

Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35928011)
I got pulled in to have a chat with the police over a facebook comment about travellers, it had been reported a couple of times in the local paper about travellers coming back to the same site in a short period of time.

Despite comments like "do what the french do" and "put landmines down" it seems my comment with chase them off with a flame thrower didn't go down so well with a "traveller charity" who reported my comment to the police.

Who actually acted on it and pulled me in for an interview about it. gave me a telling off and said I could go and mind what I say infuture as they register me on the local database.

Seems the other comments he had a copy of didn't matter "2 wrongs don't make a right" he said.

I just said right seen as you've wasted my time I'll report every comment I find offensive and expect you to act on it.

I was (informally) talking to a police officer yesterday and he said that the police are increasingly using the 1997 Harrassment Act where people repeatedly upset people on the internet. To use this at least two incidents need to have occurred though.

Gavin78 11-12-2017 19:16

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35928178)
I was (informally) talking to a police officer yesterday and he said that the police are increasingly using the 1997 Harrassment Act where people repeatedly upset people on the internet. To use this at least two incidents need to have occurred though.

Really? shame he didn't look into that when he read me the riot act as it was one incident.

unless that's for getting charged I just had a talking to

RichardCoulter 11-12-2017 20:47

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From what he said if someone contacts somebody, be it on the internet, phone, by letter etc and they are asked not to contact the person again, if they then go on to do so (the second time), it becomes a harrassment offence, I think that's the reasoning behind it.

So, if you've only contacted them the once, it cannot be harrassment as prior to this you hadn't contacted them, so they wouldn't have had the opportunity to say that your 'attention wasn't wanted'!

He also said that some people think that they can get round this by not naming the person directly, but if any reasonably thinking person would know who was being referred to, it's classed as having addressed that person directly.

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35927873)
More BS from overpaid idiots.

This pretty sums up this nonsense ;



Suggesting ?

Right, so its not at all SEXIST to exclude men :rolleyes:

A think tank says that the way that men are often portrayed as foolish bumbling idiots by writers eg they don't know how to wash clothes properly, cook etc should be classed as sex discrimination:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...tten-l9jhdj2tw

On the one hand female stereotypes are no longer tolerated, but men seem to be fair game. On the other hand most humour is at someone else's expense and laughter is what makes the world go round...

RichardCoulter 13-12-2017 15:30

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Just to add to the above, the tongue in cheek remarks about 'man flu' that women make have turned out to be scientifically false as men do suffer more:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a8105006.html

Is this sexism or a bit of harmless leg pulling?

papa smurf 13-12-2017 17:22

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35928680)
Just to add to the above, the tongue in cheek remarks about 'man flu' that women make have turned out to be scientifically false as men do suffer more:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a8105006.html

Is this sexism or a bit of harmless leg pulling?

i'm not that bothered as long as my dinner is on the table when i get home she can be as sexist as she wants .

RichardCoulter 19-12-2017 22:40

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MP's speak to websites who are failing to take down innapropriate content:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...wn-hate-speech

RichardCoulter 22-02-2018 14:13

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35922016)
Right, because no one will find out the password, or hack the site, or distribute it once they have a copy.

More typical tech cluelessness from those making these decisions.

(and really, there are tons of apps that can take screenshots and recordings already).

Member of the House of Lords, digital activist, director of Twitter and founder of lastminute.com Martha Lane Fox agrees with you.

She wants to 'sort out the internet' by appointing an Ombudsman to ensure that standards are upheld and be a regulator that people can turn to when things go wrong. Not sure if this would be to replace the Internet Commissioner or not.

She is 'one of the UK's leading tech entrepreneurs' and one of the most influential voices in the sector and part of a think tank upon how the internet should be governed and made more accountable to society.

She recently interviewed 2,500 (including myself) for their thoughts about the internet and her report has now been published.

Interestingly, over 90% of people said they used the internet every day and over 50% think that the internet benefits them personally. However, only 12% think that the internet benefits society at a macro level.

With regards to your point about decision makers being out of touch, she said that it's hard for people (and the people that influence them) who are making laws to have had the same experience of the internet as the public and that they need to have a high level of digital understanding. The Government must take steps to ensure that itself, it's employees and the public must begin to understand the internet (at a more macro level).

pip08456 22-02-2018 16:37

Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
I presume the snowflakes also need to be taught how to use the ignore button as well or they must be looked after by the nanny state.

Hugh 22-02-2018 17:24

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35938044)
I presume the snowflakes also need to be taught how to use the ignore button as well or they must be looked after by the nanny state.

Don't forget the broflakes who get upset by people being upset...

RichardCoulter 19-04-2018 03:36

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The Home Office is to fund a campaign by Changing Faces to encourage those with a disfigurement, loss of hair, scars etc to report any harassment, abuse or bullying as a hate crime.

A hate crime is defined as such by the person on the receiving end:

https://www.changingfaces.org.uk/lau...disfigurements

RizzyKing 19-04-2018 07:26

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Another thing I'll be ignoring I'm not reporting people because they comment on my scars even when it's negative commentary i just think this is all going a bit far especially when people get their homes burgled and there are no police resources to investigate yet hate crime\speech units are popping up everywhere.

techguyone 19-04-2018 08:10

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That's cause like motorists it's easy pickings, unlike rather more serious and dare I say it (proper) crimes. Does seem a bit crap though when your real crime is going out of control, like where Londonistan has now overtaken NY in murders.


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