Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35751730)

Absolutely there does - I agree with everyone who says they ought to lighten up however are they really going to listen to us?

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35751713)

78% of British Muslims asked thought those who made the Danish cartoons in 2005 should've been prosecuted for causing them offence and indeed blaspheming against them.

That is actually from a survey, not pulled from my hindmost.

78% of British Muslims find the idea of free speech, which isn't causing anyone any physical harm or putting them in danger, offensive, because Sunni Islam tells them to.

In common with the vast majority of the UK I do not share those beliefs, in common with much of the UK while I have no problem with those holding them I do not respect those beliefs as I find all religions absurd to one degree or another.

Our society doesn't give offence, people choose to take it. Are we to pander to this and indefinitely modify our own laws, as we have been, whenever enough decide to take offence at something?

How many other religions do anything beyond rolling their eyes when they are criticised, parodied or mocked, and what makes this one so special that the BBC should go out of its way to explicitly avoid offending it beyond threats of violence anyone in the public eye questioning it seem to get?

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35751731)

No. But I seem to remember the phrase "Vengeance is mine sayeth the lord"

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35751734)

True but I'm guessing it's likely those with faith are unlikely to take such advice from those without.

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35751719)

But we can deliberately take the piddle though can't we?

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35751724)

They should have been antagonistic, the free press should have collectively raised their kilts and waved their cocks in the face of radical Islam.

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35751736)

It all depends in what form and to who you take the piddle of .The magazine had a long and very controversial history of offending Muslims and have had reprisal attacks in the past,they have deliberately set out to offend an entire community and unfortunately and sadly people not connected with them have suffered the consequencies



It's a figure of speech you pedantic git :rolleyes:



Why are they ?

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Hold on a moment ,you just said people should be free to antagonise Muslims and now your saying radical Islam ,which is it ? there is a very big difference

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35751729)

People have no qualms about offending Christianity.

Surely the rules for offence at images of Mohammed are just for other Muslims and not for other beliefs or non-beliefs. There has to be a sense of proportion at having been offended.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35751740)

tbf, they were equal opportunity offenders - they often were satirical to Christians and Jews as well....

But no Christians or Jews tried to firebomb or kill them for it...

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35751741)

Indeed ,there must be a lesson in there somewhere....... maybe it's not to deliberately insult,offend or antagonise a group of people who have a history of killing people for being offensive .

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35751732)

"Bottled it"? I take it from that remark that you support the deliberate antagonising and offending of Muslims ,is that because they are Muslims or because they are religious .I don't really care because in my opinion you and people with your attitude are as much part of the problem as the nutters with the guns

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35751732)

If you think that printing cartoons that are designed to deliberately offend and mock a religion are a sign of solidarity then it is not surprising that you "have no idea"

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35751748)

So appease for fear of reprisal.

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35751748)

So appease for fear of reprisal.

What a fine tribute to those who stood up for their legally provided freedom of speech and the press.

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35751754)

Or increase the satire and encourage a reprisal? This is what I mean, there's no straightforward response.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35751755)

Utter rubbish .In the real world if you go around upsetting a bunch lunatics with guns and bombs then you will be blown up or shot nothing whatsoever to do with free speech and your right to use it .If you want free speech then at least accept the responsibility that goes with it.

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35751756)

Just once it would've been awesome if everyone had printed the cartoons. Just a one-off, that way no-one had stuck their head over the parapet if you see what I mean, Russ?

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35751758)

Yes I do, it would have put out a great message however do you think it would have made all the nutter Muslims around the world shrug their shoulders and accept how unreasonable they are?

Or do you think it could have led to something else?

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35751759)

James O'Brien.