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Qtx 22-04-2014 11:29

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35691248)
And what about wars that are caused by oil, money, greed, land, politics?

What of them?

Don't you just hate it when someone answers a question with a question....

Russ 22-04-2014 11:30

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35691249)
What of them?

Let's assume for one moment it was actually possible to end religion. What will you blame for war then and how would you combat it?

Qtx 22-04-2014 11:38

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35691252)
Let's assume for one moment it was actually possible to end religion. What will you blame for war then and how would you combat it?

Oh, so you was insinuating in your last post that I am happy about wars based on greed, oil, land and politics. All of those things are terrible and should not be happening and get me so angry that I am an active activist doing what I can. Obviously not going to say too much on that front but not a good argument to use against me really.

Religion may be a little lower on the pecking order but it's still ranked pretty high.

I'm no atheist btw.

To end war at the moment we need to end our dependence on fossil fuels. Also need to make it so arms companies can't make profit.... Although wiping out the the USA and starting fresh would probably go a long way too. Religion really hasn't helped that country at all.

Gary L 22-04-2014 11:39

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35691252)
Let's assume for one moment it was actually possible to end religion.

If that was possible in the way of it was totally wiped from your mind. in the way that it's not even a distant memory.

then the Muslims would be a lot quieter.
the ones that were making noise.
not all of them.
just the ones I'm talking about.

Russ 22-04-2014 11:46

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35691255)
Oh, so you was insinuating in your last post that I am happy about wars based on greed, oil, land and politics. All of those things are terrible and should not be happening and get me so angry that I am an active activist doing what I can. Obviously not going to say too much on that front but not a good argument to use against me really.

I neither said nor implied that.

You seem to be extremely anti-religion and given your comments about its involvement in wars I was wondering if you're against the other factors I mentioned just as much.

Qtx 22-04-2014 11:51

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35691257)
You seem to be extremely anti-religion and given your comments about its involvement in wars I was wondering if you're against the other factors I mentioned just as much.

Not sure where you picked that up from. I said in previous posts that anyone should be able to believe in what they want and I don't have a problem with that. What I have an issue with is religion influencing politics, education or anything outside the home/place of worship.

Someones holiday ruined due to religion: Sri Lanka to deport Buddha tattoo British woman @ BBC Today

Russ 22-04-2014 12:21

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35691263)
Not sure where you picked that up from. I said in previous posts that anyone should be able to believe in what they want and I don't have a problem with that. What I have an issue with is religion influencing politics, education or anything outside the home/place of worship.

Someones holiday ruined due to religion: Sri Lanka to deport Buddha tattoo British woman @ BBC Today

Another country's laws aren't something we really have a right to be criticising unless they bring hurt or harm to people.

But back to my question, are you as against those other factors as you seem to be about religion?

Mr Angry 22-04-2014 12:25

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35691255)
Oh, so you was insinuating in your last post that I am happy about wars based on greed, oil, land and politics. All of those things are terrible and should not be happening and get me so angry that I am an active activist doing what I can.


RizzyKing 22-04-2014 16:11

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I'm quite surprised anyone was surprised this may be happening but clearly many weren't aware there were elements within UK islam seeking to gain greater control and more influence by any means. It is the majority islamic community that must deal with this it cannot truly be ended by anyone other then the islamic community. Sadly many muslims wuld rather switch mosques then oppose extremists when they appear and that is the problem.

Oh and if i may answer you Russ oil and the other reasons you state are the cause of most wars but religion is such a convinient excuse to cover that agenda.

Russ 22-04-2014 16:53

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35691362)

Oh and if i may answer you Russ oil and the other reasons you state are the cause of most wars but religion is such a convinient excuse to cover that agenda.

Absolutely - so to place the blame on religion certainly isn't a good idea.

Russ 22-04-2014 17:14

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35691401)
There. Corrected it for you.

Whilst religion isn't always the cause it's the cause that is so often stated by the combatants.

I don't think it needed correcting - I can't think of any wars that were caused by religion however if any have been influenced by it then its detractors will usually assume it was the cause.

I've come across plenty of people who say religion played a big part in WW2 due to Hitler's obsession with Jews.

Ignitionnet 29-04-2014 09:30

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More smoke to go with the fire.

More fire to go with the smoke.

Qtx 29-04-2014 10:25

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Speaking anonymously to Channel 4 News on Sunday night, the teacher admitted there was a campaign to assert more Muslim influence in schools, describing it as “a very positive thing”.
If Kosha (:p:) it's shocking they think it's ok to do.

TheDaddy 03-05-2014 06:15

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It's spreading and growing, maybe

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...take-over.html

Qtx 03-05-2014 11:12

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35694722)

Expect the usual nay-sayers to come along and say it's not happening and anyone who say's so is a racist bigot or something :p:

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On Friday, Ofsted confirmed that its investigation had spread from 18 to 21 schools in the city. The three additional schools are primaries.

In a statement, the head teachers’ association said attempts had been made to “alter their character in line with the Islamic faith”, including sidelining parts of the curriculum and attempting to influence the appointment of Muslim staff.

Russell Hobby, its general secretary, warned that the action was unlikely to be “limited to Birmingham”, adding: “I think it is connected into the large cities around the country.”

It is the first time a major teachers’ organisation has confirmed that such concerns exist.


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