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Peter_ 10-04-2010 18:08

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34998544)
so there's no chance of you answering the question then

If they wanted to build one I would have no objection as I stated throughout as I am not religious in the slightest..

But I do know that due to where I live that the is no chance of one being built near me.

martyh 10-04-2010 18:22

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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34998548)
If they wanted to build one I would have no objection as I stated throughout as I am not religious in the slightest..

But I do know that due to where I live that the is no chance of one being built near me.

with respect though it's got nothing to do with how religious you are or not .This is all about the disruption a poorly planned mosque can course ,and believe me it doesn't just affect the estate/area you live in ,it can impact the area you work in ,drive through regular or even go to when visiting family ,for example the new mosque i used as an example impacted a area of at least 1 square mile on friday afternoons with buses delayed ,traffic jams and residents forced to park elswhere because there parking places where blocked ,this happened for nearly 2 years untill the bus company and fire service complained and forced action

has to be said in fairness that the same problem happened when newcastle played at home ,people would park anywhere and everywhere

Gary L 10-04-2010 18:24

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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34998548)
If they wanted to build one I would have no objection as I stated throughout as I am not religious in the slightest..

So you'd only have any objections if you were a Christian, say?
what objections do you think you would have if you were religious?

Peter_ 10-04-2010 18:26

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34998556)

has to be said in fairness that the same problem happened when newcastle played at home ,people would park anywhere and everywhere

We actually had a slim chance of the new Everton ground being built within 2 miles of where I live and that would have caused more disruption than any mosque, the planning was rejected a while back.

Lord Nikon 10-04-2010 18:28

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if I may make a suggestion

martyh 10-04-2010 18:33

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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34998559)
We actually had a slim chance of the new Everton ground being built within 2 miles of where I live and that would have caused more disruption than any mosque, the planning was rejected a while back.

whereas st james' park wanted to relocate to the town moor(an area more than big enough) and free a large amount of inner city area ,reducing conjestion dramatically ,this plan was rejected despite being favorite with the fans owners and local residents :shrug: at the same time the mosque in question was approved planning because it solved a problem for the local authority ,namely what to do with a small cluster of industrial units that needed repair

Hugh 10-04-2010 18:39

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34998557)
So you'd only have any objections if you were a Christian, say?
what objections do you think you would have if you were religious?

I'm not sure what you're getting at, Gary - are you are asking him to hypothesise what objections he might have, if he was something he's not? :confused:

Gary L 10-04-2010 18:44

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34998571)
I'm not sure what you're getting at, Gary - are you are asking him to hypothesise what objections he might have, if he was something he's not? :confused:

Yes. is that not possible? :confused:

Peter_ 10-04-2010 18:45

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34998557)
So you'd only have any objections if you were a Christian, say?
what objections do you think you would have if you were religious?

That is not something I am capable of talking about due to me not being religious so rather a strange question to say the least.:erm:

A similar question to a commited christian would be "what objections do you think you would have if you were not religious?" and I rather doubt they could give an answer either.:confused:

Gary L 10-04-2010 18:51

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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34998574)
That is not something I am capable of talking about due to me not being religious so rather a strange question to say the least.:erm:

I just find it interesting for someone to base their approval or objection on whether they are religious or not.

Is it possible to know if you would have any objections if you were religious?

I'm not religious in the slightest either. so I think me even mentioning me not being religious would be an irrelevant thing to say.

martyh 10-04-2010 18:55

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34998581)
I just find it interesting for someone to base their approval or objection on whether they are religious or not.

Is it possible to know if you would have any objections if you were religious?

now there's a leading question ,depends on what religion :D

what your asking is for someone to put themselves in someone elses shoes ,it's very rare anyone can give a honest answer to that because they have no experience in that subject

Peter_ 10-04-2010 18:56

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34998581)
I just find it interesting for someone to base their approval or objection on whether they are religious or not.

Is it possible to know if you would have any objections if you were religious?

How can anyone give a true answer to something like that unless I suddenly started speaking in tongues and had a religious revelation and fell down on my knees and started to pray.:D

Of course it is not possible to say if I was religious that I would think differently because it is impossible due to your present beliefs or non beliefs.

Gary L 10-04-2010 18:57

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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34998574)
A similar question to a commited christian would be "what objections do you think you would have if you were not religious?" and I rather doubt they could give an answer either.:confused:

That question would make sense asking when the person mentioned that 'they don't have any objections because they are religious'

Peter_ 10-04-2010 18:59

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34998585)
That question would make sense asking when the person mentioned that 'they don't have any objections because they are religious'

It does not make sense either way as it is an impossible question to answer honestly from any angle.

Gary L 10-04-2010 19:00

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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34998584)
How can anyone give a true answer to something like that unless I suddenly started speaking in tongues and had a religious revelation and fell down on my knees and started to pray.:D

Of course it is not possible to say if I was religious that I would think differently because it is impossible due to your present beliefs or non beliefs.

So why mention that you don't have any objections because you are not religious?! :D


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