Re: [Merged] 2004 US Presidential Election
 

And Bush is the dumb one who doesn't have a clue himself and is constantly relying on others to tell him what he should do and being manipulated by those who have their own agendas which have nothing to do with making the world or America a safer or better place, but only lining their own pockets...!

Re: [Merged] 2004 US Presidential Election
 

If this is true, at least it shows Kerry has a brain, unlike Bush the NeoCon puppet.

which, come to think of it, is actually what Graham already said :) :tu:

Re: [Merged] 2004 US Presidential Election
 

There's a lot of "political lore" regarding presidential elections.

One is that, since 1936, every time the Washington Redskins have lost their last Sunday match before the election, the incumbent president loses the election.

The Redskins lost on Sunday..... ;)

Bush *wins* ohio, secound term in office
 

Bush looks set to win the election after winning flordia and ohio, but ohio look set to cause problem as the first network to call it was Fox news and only 90% of the vote has been counted but it seems with the popular vote going to bush that this wont last as long last time

Re: Bush *wins* ohio, secound term in office
 

BBC hasn't called it yet - but Bush is going to win - overall it's less close than 2000 and he got in then. It's terribly sad though - the only hope for the world is that he makes such an enormous f-up of the whole thing for the next four years that the extremist faction he represents is discredited enough that the Democrats can overcome them. Requires a certain amount of clue-getting amongst the Democrats though, they haven't fought this one properly.

Re: Bush *wins* ohio, secound term in office
 

ummm 270 needed

249 to bush atm
242 to kerry atm

ohio = 20 so even ohio doesnt win on its own

whats up with peoples maths today ?

Re: Bush *wins* ohio, secound term in office
 

IMO Kerry is such an unknown 'no mark' he couldn't hope to win any votes on his own agenda (which was ??). The worrying thing is I think any votes he did win were more of a vote against Dubya - and that seems to be about half the US population.

I fear for the world under Bush and a gullible US population !! :disturbd:

Re: Bush *wins* ohio, secound term in office
 

http://www.yahoo.com

Bush is at 254 on this site.

Re: Bush *wins* ohio, secound term in office
 

Yep Nevada just called in the last 5-10 mins making it 254

EDIT: but not secured as oits apparently still to close

Re: Bush *wins* ohio, secound term in office
 

Just saw this on The Inquirer after looking at the BBC website with all the flash stuff..

"Macromedia Flash the only winner in US election "

Was quite funny.

Re: Bush *wins* ohio, secound term in office
 

Well if Bush gets elected again, World war 3 is just round the corner.
Osama Bin Laden has already promised to bomb all Bush voters states so its only the start of another big war.

Not a good thing at all.

Re: Bush *wins* ohio, secound term in office
 

As soon as it's over, by pure co-incidence... more US troops will be off to Iraq and the big operation to deal with the 'insurgents/terrorists etc' will commence.

Re: Bush *wins* ohio, secound term in office
 

Looks like we may not know for definite for a couple of weeks - all hangs on those disputed Ohio votes - but looking at the map I would say the US is a divided country - BBC map (yes, it uses Macromedia!)

It looks to me like the 'sensible' North-East and West coasts have gone for Kerry and the 'cowboys' in the centre and South-East have gone for Dubya. A pretty poor decision by most of small town America IMHO.

Who will Bush invade next?

Re: Bush *wins* ohio, secound term in office
 

im happy if Bush got back in seems that all the Bush haters are infact in the minority, it just happens to be a sad fact that every 12 year old kid in europe hates the fella as it seems "cool" granted you dont often read posts supporting the fella on forums but heh its a forum its a place for people to moan and having Bush in power seems a graet excuse for the same people to bring up the same boring facts time and time again :) I bet Moore is upset if bush wins i look forward to another 4 years of constant "boohoo we shouldnt of gone to iraq" etc he cant be doing that bad a job if he gets voted in ... of course they should get another Regan in he didnt have a clue what he was doing but he let his staff do it and they knew what was what.

world does seem to be a little bit safer apart from russia have some nasty issues earlier :(

i think thats a good thing you cant give in i imagine any country is working overtime in stopping attacks u just dont hear about them unless they are successfull and then its just what the media want you to hear ive noticed the mirror has stopped trying to get its people on grounded planes these days maybe they will start reporting the news instead of making it up :)

btw nothing wrong in hating bush and his war etc just id like it if people just didnt jump on the bandwagon look beyond the paper they read on the tube and explore the facts...."tree of liberty.... "and all that...

Re: Bush *wins* ohio, secound term in office
 

254 to Bush
252 to Kerry