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Logan 28-01-2007 17:04

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Quiet from the Forest fans all of a sudden :D

yesman 28-01-2007 22:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 34208244)
Quiet from the Forest fans all of a sudden :D

At the present time the result today was likely, Chelsea 3 Forest 0, ( I thought it was going to be more at one point).
I read somewhere today though, that a few years ago Forest would not have thought twice about drawing Chelsea in the FA Cup, or anything else for that matter.


It is a pity that such a great club like Forest is where it is at the moment, but they are heading in the right direction at least. :tu:

Drogba Goal

nffc 28-01-2007 22:32

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Not really. Just not really thought to comment on it.

Some musings:
- wondering what would have happened if we'd played Clingan from the start.
- Their goals were incredibly lucky though - the first was heavily deflected off Curtis and Smith probably would have saved it, he should have saved the FK if he'd moved earlier, and the third was just a mess.
- Chavchenko missed a host of chances, 30 million my ass.
- I haven't seen a side have so much possession in a half ever.
- Anyway, this match highlighted what we all knew before that. We were never going to get anything, case of damage limitation, and aside from taking half a game to settle it was - 3-0 is convincing, but not really hammered.
- Gary Holt is ****, he does nothing. He's incapable of anything.
- Bennett still doesn't know where the left back position is, he thinks he should stay on the touchline halfway between the centre line and the goal line, or even in front of the D. At times, we had Grant Holt, Breckin, Curtis and at one point even Tyson covering his position.
- Lester is finished, that challenge on Morais was awful (Rumour is, he's off to Northampton as p/ex for Luke Chambers this week).
- Grant Holt is not a left mid, why did we not start with Tyson or even Perch there?
- Otherwise, once they'd worked who to pass to, and that they actually had to try and harry Chelski, they were OK.
- That ginga 16 year old child that Chelski brought on... priceless :D

It was always going to be about the money. Hopefully watching bridge will show Bennett how to be a left back. Money from the TV, and the gate receipts, will help Forest a lot. A day out, good experience for the players, now let's get the league back on track and go up, then we can think about playing them as the norm. Long way to go though.

Rumour also is that Prutton's returning from Southampton this week for 250k. Boy do we need him then we can **** Gary Holt off to the stud.

yesman 28-01-2007 23:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nffc (Post 34208450)
Not really. Just not really thought to comment on it.

Some musings:
- wondering what would have happened if we'd played Clingan from the start.
- Their goals were incredibly lucky though - the first was heavily deflected off Curtis and Smith probably would have saved it, he should have saved the FK if he'd moved earlier, and the third was just a mess.
- Chavchenko missed a host of chances, 30 million my ass.
- I haven't seen a side have so much possession in a half ever.
- Anyway, this match highlighted what we all knew before that. We were never going to get anything, case of damage limitation, and aside from taking half a game to settle it was - 3-0 is convincing, but not really hammered.
- Gary Holt is ****, he does nothing. He's incapable of anything.
- Bennett still doesn't know where the left back position is, he thinks he should stay on the touchline halfway between the centre line and the goal line, or even in front of the D. At times, we had Grant Holt, Breckin, Curtis and at one point even Tyson covering his position.
- Lester is finished, that challenge on Morais was awful (Rumour is, he's off to Northampton as p/ex for Luke Chambers this week).
- Grant Holt is not a left mid, why did we not start with Tyson or even Perch there?
- Otherwise, once they'd worked who to pass to, and that they actually had to try and harry Chelski, they were OK.
- That ginga 16 year old child that Chelski brought on... priceless :D

It was always going to be about the money. Hopefully watching bridge will show Bennett how to be a left back. Money from the TV, and the gate receipts, will help Forest a lot. A day out, good experience for the players, now let's get the league back on track and go up, then we can think about playing them as the norm. Long way to go though.

Rumour also is that Prutton's returning from Southampton this week for 250k. Boy do we need him then we can **** Gary Holt off to the stud.

Some good reading for you nffc.
I came across an archived CUFC site, not sure that you would remember this, but have a look. better times for both teams/clubs perhaps.

nffc 28-01-2007 23:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34208482)
Some good reading for you nffc.
I came across an archived CUFC site, not sure that you would remember this, but have a look. better times for both teams/clubs perhaps.

I was fourteen then! I do remember it, we drew ManScum in the next round. That was our last season in the top flight.

tick 28-01-2007 23:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nffc (Post 34208495)
I was fourteen then! I do remember it, we drew ManScum in the next round. That was our last season in the top flight.

I was there better time for both clubs.
We went down hill big time hope you don't

iadom 29-01-2007 09:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tick (Post 34208502)
I was there better time for both clubs.
We went down hill big time hope you don't

Forest are in the third division, you can't go much further down hill. :)

sherer 29-01-2007 09:58

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i was at the Palace game at the weekend first time i seen us since the start of the season

we had close the main stand and behind one of the goals but still charged £25 so not a great atmosphere to start with

we was ok in the first half but dire in the second and they deserved to be booed at the end.. some of the players aren't even good enough for the championship and it's no wonder we are in trouble in the league.. we don't deserve to be in 14th

Shadow Demon UK 29-01-2007 14:47

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FA Cup 5th Round Draw -

Chelsea v Blackpool or Norwich
Watford v Ipswich
Preston v Man City
Plymouth v Derby County
Man Utd v Reading
Arsenal or Bolton v Blackburn
Bristol City or Middlesbrough v West Bromwich Albion
Fulham v Tottenham

Home draws for the 'Big three' if Arsenal get through.

DocDutch 29-01-2007 15:52

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Chelsea is lucky again...just a lowly Championship team again....

yesman 29-01-2007 17:21

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Football attendance tables, see where your club is.
No need to guess who is at number 1.

CUFC are the 4th highest supported conference team behind Oxford, Exeter & York at number 90.

Interesting to see who is lying at the 93rd spot though....

http://www.tonykempster.co.uk/attcomp.htm

Shadow Demon UK 29-01-2007 17:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34208897)
Football attendance tables, see where your club is.
No need to guess who is at number 1.

CUFC are the 4th highest supported conference team behind Oxford, Exeter & York at number 90.

Interesting to see who is lying at the 93rd spot though....

http://www.tonykempster.co.uk/attcomp.htm

I see Merrow's average attendance has gone up from 8 to 17.

My brother's Sunday league team gets higher attendancs than that :rofl:

iadom 29-01-2007 17:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34208897)
Football attendance tables, see where your club is.
No need to guess who is at number 1.

CUFC are the 4th highest supported conference team behind Oxford, Exeter & York at number 90.

Interesting to see who is lying at the 93rd spot though....

http://www.tonykempster.co.uk/attcomp.htm

Or who is 94th as well.

carlingman 30-01-2007 00:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34208795)
FA Cup 5th Round Draw -

Chelsea v Blackpool or Norwich
Watford v Ipswich
Preston v Man City
Plymouth v Derby County
Man Utd v Reading
Arsenal or Bolton v Blackburn
Bristol City or Middlesbrough v West Bromwich Albion
Fulham v Tottenham

Home draws for the 'Big three' if Arsenal get through.

Damn was hoping for Chelski or Man Ure home or away for the Arsenal as we may as well beat them en route rather than the final.

Although with Bolton being a bogey team for us I could live to regret that statement very soon.

:D

tick 30-01-2007 01:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34208629)
Forest are in the third division, you can't go much further down hill. :)

how about the confrence?
its bad down here

iadom 30-01-2007 09:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tick (Post 34209279)
how about the confrence?
its bad down here

Yeh, but you never won a couple of European cups though, its all relative.;)
No other winners of the Euorpean cup have sunk so low.:(

Jim.

nffc 30-01-2007 14:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34209351)
Yeh, but you never won a couple of European cups though, its all relative.;)
No other winners of the Euorpean cup have sunk so low.:(

Jim.

We were in D3S in the early 50s, two seasons, we came back again.

Rumours of a couple of signings in the immediate pipeline, will believe them when i see them tbh.

iadom 30-01-2007 16:11

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With the disgusting amounts of money sloshing around the Premiership and the parachute payments it makes it very hard indeed for any team to get to the top table these days. You just had to watch the Wolves v Baggies to see the difference in class of a team still drawing parachute money. Personally I would like to see Forest back at the top, preferably in place of some of the Southern Jessies like Watford, Fulham, Charlton & Reading.:D

Jim.

nffc 30-01-2007 17:54

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...st/6310985.stm

Quote:

Prutton joins Forest in loan deal



https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/01/3.jpg


Nottingham Forest have re-signed David Prutton on loan from Southampton until the end of the season.


The 25-year-old, who started his career at the City Ground, will stay with the League One outfit until his Saints contract runs out in the summer.

yay!

---------- Post added at 17:54 ---------- Previous post was at 16:26 ----------

And another...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...st/6314915.stm

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Forest snap up defender Chambers

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/01/4.jpg


Nottingham Forest have signed central defender Luke Chambers from League One rivals Northampton Town.
The 21-year-old, a long-time target of Forest's ex-Cobblers boss Colin Calderwood, has signed a two-and-a-half year deal for an undisclosed fee.
"We're sorry to see Luke go but he will feel the move allows him to build on a great start he's made to his career," said Cobblers boss Stuart Gray.
Chambers made 149 appearances for Northampton and was their club captain.

yesman 30-01-2007 18:23

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http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/reso...f71c2b8215.jpg

Quote:

MAJORITY shareholder Paul Barry has put forward a last-ditch plan to save Cambridge United.
Mr Barry has warned United will be forced to go back into administration if his bid to buy the club is not given the green light.
But former directors could have the last word on the survival of United if they fail to provide their backing to his proposal.
Mr Barry told shareholders at the club's annual meeting last night that he was ready, together with vice-chairman Johnny Hon and American businessman Adrian Hanauer, to plough £600,000 into United over the next two years.
CEN

Shadow Demon UK 31-01-2007 09:46

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Should this be allowed? - Link

I don't understand why he get's special dispensation to move to Liverpool, he's played for two teams in the same season so cannot play for another, he decided to move to West Ham, it's his own fault and he should live with it in my opinion.

I'm sure if it was United trying to buy him and not Liverpool Sepp Blatter would stick his nose in and say no, stopping the transfer. Of course Liverpool get to break the rules though :rolleyes:

sherer 31-01-2007 10:06

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i think the liverpool arguement was that although yes has already played for 2 teams as the South American league runs to a different calendar it was actually last season and not this one

didn't the same thing happen with Boumsong when he went to Newcastle from Rangers ?

not that i like liverpool but as a football fan it is better for the player.. wonder how well he will do

Shadow Demon UK 31-01-2007 12:32

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This is for those who missed the West Ham v Liverpool match last night - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZJ9HVRskEg

:rofl:

TheDaddy 31-01-2007 21:43

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Good signing methinks :tu:, the last time we had the chance to sign him and didn't we got relegated

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/6307255.stm

Shadow Demon UK 31-01-2007 22:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34210526)
Good signing methinks :tu:, the last time we had the chance to sign him and didn't we got relegated

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/6307255.stm

I can't help but think this another deal all about money as was Lucas Neill's move. At the moment it looks like West Ham and Birmingham are going to swap places next season, so it's a strange decision by the player.

A good signing for West Ham though :tu:

iadom 31-01-2007 22:40

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Good results for the Latics tonight, Forest lost to Carlisle & Bristol City lost at home to Cheltenham.:cool:

Jim.

nffc 01-02-2007 00:05

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Ah but we have Prutton and Chambers now...

TheDaddy 01-02-2007 14:11

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I long for the day, I'd re new my season ticket in a flash, it's also just about the only thing that would convince me to vote Tory again, although I am not hopeful, note the word could

Conservative leader David Cameron has said terraces could return to football grounds under a Tory government, although he insisted that safety would still be the "first priority". (Various)

mike24 01-02-2007 14:20

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:p: Carling Cup great win!!!
Same old Arsenal allways winning, same old Spurs allways losing

BBKing 01-02-2007 22:50

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Quote:

Same old Arsenal allways winning, same old Spurs allways losing
*high five* :nworthy:

Top three teams in North London:

Arsenal
Arsenal Reserves
Arsenal Ladies

Shadow Demon UK 02-02-2007 22:04

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More trouble in Italian football -

Quote:

The Italian Football Federation (FIGC) has called off all this weekend's Serie A and Serie B games after a policeman was killed at a match on Friday.
Link

Not good :(

sir_drinks_alot 03-02-2007 12:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34212019)
More trouble in Italian football -


Link

Not good :(

Not good at all :( wonder if uefa will come down hard on Italian football now like thay do with everyone els
PS
sorry for beating you lot today yesman !

yesman 03-02-2007 12:27

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Quote:

MICHAEL Carrick has beefed up his act and United's £18m recruit from Spurs is a `pass master' in Sir Alex Ferguson's eyes.
The 25-year-old England midfielder returns to play at White Hart Lane tomorrow for the first time since his summer switch from Tottenham to Old Trafford.
"Michael has been terrific. He is improving. He is getting stronger too," says the Reds' boss.
No doubt he will get a great reception :disturbd:

MEN

sherer 03-02-2007 12:47

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terrible news in Italy.. all the matches are off as are the international matches in the week

there was loads of trouble the weekend before as well

i've seen it when i've been to the Utd v Liverpool match the hatred some of these people have just because you support a different team or come from a different city is never a good site to see

Shadow Demon UK 03-02-2007 18:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34212222)
i've seen it when i've been to the Utd v Liverpool match the hatred some of these people have just because you support a different team or come from a different city is never a good site to see

I too have seen scenes like this but to be honest in this country it's nowhere near what happens in Itlay, i very rarely see any actual violence before, during or after matches where as in Itlay it seems to happen very often. In this country though it does seem to come alot from the set of fans of one team in particular who seem to have bitter rivalry's with many different teams.

iadom 03-02-2007 19:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nffc (Post 34104681)
top of the league... and having a laugh


You said it.:p: :D :cool:

http://tinyurl.com/yrm7k3

.

Shadow Demon UK 04-02-2007 19:36

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Good win for United today - Link

Had a good laugh at O'Shea going in goal for the last ten minutes and Spurs still not being able to score:rofl:

yesman 04-02-2007 21:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34212971)
Good win for United today - Link

I thought the score flattered United a bit, especially after the first half performance, when Spurs came out of the blocks quickly and dominated the play for about 20 minutes or so.
Not sure about our penalty either, but I suppose it made up for the one that was not given.
In the end I think United deserved the win as Spurs did not look like scoring, even when they were dominant, maybe that says something about their forward line that they started with.

Nice to see the goal difference is now at seventeen over Chelsea, which could be the overriding factor come May if current form continues until then, plus the advantage of six points of course :tu:

Oh, and I thought the ref was abysmal 2/10

Shadow Demon UK 04-02-2007 21:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34213061)
Nice to see the goal difference is now at seventeen over Chelsea, which could be the overriding factor come May if current form continues until then, plus the advantage of six points of course :tu:

Oh, and I thought the ref was abysmal 2/10

I agree, with such a big goal difference the gap is basically seven points. At the moment it doesn't look like anything is going to stop United and I think it will come down to whether Chelsea can go on a winning streak for the rest of the season, i think it may come down to the match at Stamford Bridge, if United can get a draw there i think they will win the league, if Chelsea win it's going to be very close.

Personally i would give the ref 1/10, i don't think i have seen such bad decisions in a top flight match for a long time. How Larsson got booked and Scholes didn't i don't know and the penalty decisons were just as bad.

sherer 05-02-2007 11:05

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even though we won it was never a pen and that turned the game.. Ronaldo wasn't touched at all and although some will say this evens up with the other decission i don't agree with that and think there is never any need for diving at all

one thing the refs never seem to pick up.. what the Smith leg break or the Cisse one or VDS yesterday and when they got injured they never rolled about from left to right screaming in pain.. in fact at no point in society have I ever seen that not even in a hospital.. it seems that only refs and linesmen believe this to be a normal reaction

sir_drinks_alot 05-02-2007 17:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sir_drinks_alot (Post 34212207)
Not good at all :( wonder if uefa will come down hard on Italian football now like thay do with everyone els
PS
sorry for beating you lot today yesman !

I see uefa are still not doing or saying nothing about the situation in Italian football If that was anywhere els there would have been threats of bans and Fines by now. :(

nffc 05-02-2007 23:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34212415)
You said it.:p: :D :cool:

http://tinyurl.com/yrm7k3

.

Well, that lasted a long time didn't it...

iadom 06-02-2007 10:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nffc (Post 34213945)
Well, that lasted a long time didn't it...

Back up there tomorrow if we beat Blackpool. :cool:

Jim.

TheBlueRaja 06-02-2007 13:00

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A hearts supporting Radio presenter hears that his team has just lost to Dunfermline (spit, spit) in the last minute of a Scottish cup match at the weekend.

http://media.putfile.com/My-Heart-was-broken

sherer 06-02-2007 13:24

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liverpool have been taken over by some US guys

another club in foreign hands

iadom 06-02-2007 17:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34214121)
Back up there tomorrow if we beat Blackpool. :cool:

Jim.


Bummer, called off due to frozen pitch, mind you it was -5° this morning.:(

Jim.

iadom 07-02-2007 16:43

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Latest news regarding the new Super Casino to be built near Sports City in Manchester.

All games of blackjack, roulette, and poker will be played at the new casino, all crap games will be played at the City of Manchester stadium.:D

Jim.

TheDaddy 07-02-2007 17:28

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Good :tu:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/6320267.stm

punky 07-02-2007 17:34

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Does anyone know why the Olympic stadium will be reduced to 25,000 after the games?

Anyways, Olympic stadiums are bad for football, so the bubble-blowers should be happy about this.

TheDaddy 07-02-2007 17:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34215259)
Does anyone know why the Olympic stadium will be reduced to 25,000 after the games?

Anyways, Olympic stadiums are bad for football, so the bubble-blowers should be happy about this.

The only time they would fill it for athletics, would be when the Olympics was in town, bit pointless and expensive having 50000 odd empty seats.

The obvious solution for me would be for us to have the Olympic stadium, do away with the track and give them our ground for athletics, I wonder if that was discussed?

punky 07-02-2007 17:41

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I would have thought it would be better/cheaper leaving them empty than removing them at major cost. Plus would look daft having this massive concrete structure with no seats in.

TheDaddy 07-02-2007 17:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34215269)
I would have thought it would be better/cheaper leaving them empty than removing them at major cost. Plus would look daft having this massive concrete structure with no seats in.

Presumably large parts of the concrete structure will be removed with the seats ;)

Mal 07-02-2007 17:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34215269)
I would have thought it would be better/cheaper leaving them empty than removing them at major cost. Plus would look daft having this massive concrete structure with no seats in.

...but if they would only get 25,000 people attending in an 80,000 seat stadium, it's going to look and sound like a ghost town...Wembley used to suffer with that...no atmosphere at England friendlies

Shadow Demon UK 07-02-2007 18:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34215269)
I would have thought it would be better/cheaper leaving them empty than removing them at major cost. Plus would look daft having this massive concrete structure with no seats in.

I'm sure the designers have thought of that as they know it is going to happen so would have designed the stadium so that the seats can be removed without it looking stupid. They will never fill the stadium again because of Wembly so there's no point of it being that big.

iadom 07-02-2007 18:05

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I heard on the radio today that it was initially hoped to get West Ham involved, this would mean removing the running track and reducing the capacity to 60,000. It seems that West Ham have now gone cool on the idea so the reduction to 25,000 is aimed at the likes of Leyton Orient.

TheDaddy 08-02-2007 13:06

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Anyone seen the new Deloitte football rich list, Man U are 4th :Yikes:
West Ham are 19th :tu:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2...060444,00.html

gazzae 08-02-2007 14:20

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Man Utd are still the most profitable club in football though.

yesman 08-02-2007 18:45

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I came across this on The Guardian website and found it quite amusing, especially the teeth quips....

Quote:


THE DIARY OF STEVE McCLAREN, AGED 55⅔
6.10am: Wake up. Start pulling my head out of my backside.

9.11am: Ah, that's better. Notice morning glory is present and correct as always. 'Ave it.

9.12am: Gaze longingly at placard on wall with stirring oratory of my hero: "Do I Not Like That". He was years ahead of his time that man. A leader.

9.13am: Brush teeth with Dulux Solid Emulsion. That smile is different class.

9.21am: Try something new for breakfast: toast and Dulux. Cereal and fruit is great but need to have as many different breakfast options as possible. Important not to get stuck in that breakfast comfort zone.

10.34am: Bored. Brush teeth.

10.55am: Give Max a ring. Can't get through.

11am: Decide to do a jigsaw. Need to take myself out of that comfort zone. Got given a rogue box with two identical pieces in the middle. The box says there's only room for one of them but what do they know? I'm gonna fit both in. More of a challenge. Important not to get stuck in that jigsaw comfort zone.

12.07pm: Give Tel a ring. Can't get through. Must be at the tanning salon.

12.08pm: Bored. Brush teeth.

12.09pm: Bored. Brush teeth.

12.41pm: Decide to put some of the old vinyl on. They reckon it works best at 45rpm but what do they know? I'm going 33rpm. Sounds a bit odd but I don't care: how many Grammys has 45rpm won us, eh? Important not to get stuck in that vinyl comfort zone.

1.20pm: Brush teeth. Bored and getting a bit lonely. Could really use a friend. Might give Massimo a call.


Stuart 08-02-2007 18:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34215259)
Does anyone know why the Olympic stadium will be reduced to 25,000 after the games?

Anyways, Olympic stadiums are bad for football, so the bubble-blowers should be happy about this.

You are, of course, assuming it will be finished by 2012..

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34216472)
I came across this on The Guardian website and found it quite amusing, especially the teeth quips....

Reminds me of something the sports reporter on the local breakfast show said. He said "And we'll be listening to the excuses McClaren gives later".

iadom 08-02-2007 19:57

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Now this is what I call a friendly. :D

http://tinyurl.com/23j5du

Jim.

yesman 08-02-2007 20:18

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I am not so sure about this http://www.eurosport.com/football/pr...o1080642.shtml but then again I wasn't sure about the class of 92 either....

Mal 08-02-2007 21:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34216555)
I am not so sure about this http://www.eurosport.com/football/pr...o1080642.shtml but then again I wasn't sure about the class of 92 either....

To be honest, I wouldn't mind Rossi, Pique and Bardsley breaking through to the first team.

I know that Rossi didn't set the goal scoring charts alight, but he did look like he had potential and his loan spell at Parma hopefully will do him good.

The other two, Bardsley looked alright, in the Gary Neville mould ;) and I have only seen Pique in friendlies, but he seemed to be a good prospect.

Shadow Demon UK 08-02-2007 21:40

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But who will they replace? I doubt Fergie will replace Neville, Vidic or Saha with them so they will probably only be back-up players still. I can see most of those players being sold on because they won't be getting enough games which is a shame because they are all good players.

Mal 08-02-2007 22:10

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34216646)
But who will they replace? I doubt Fergie will replace Neville, Vidic or Saha with them so they will probably only be back-up players still. I can see most of those players being sold on because they won't be getting enough games which is a shame because they are all good players.

Well, if Bardsley is prepared to hang on, what about replacing Neville in a few years time?

yesman 08-02-2007 22:39

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Bardsley has played a few times for the first team and does look promising. Rossi, who is a gifted player has looked out of his depth when he has played in the first team previously, but he deserves a chance, it's his stature that bothers me, but, as I was reminded the other day, Chelsea had a small Italian player who turned out to be their best player for a time (Zola).

Of the other players coming through, it is the Irish contigent who have impressed me most, Evans, Cathcart and Gibson, Evans reminds me of a young Roy Keane, a good engine and gets stuck in, plus Gibson has a good shot on him.

Having said the above, only time will tell I suppose.

Shadow Demon UK 08-02-2007 22:58

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Well the reserves have been doing very well over the past few seasons and these players have played a big part in that team. I think that a only a few players will make it through to the first team. Even though it worked in '92 i can't help but feel that was a once in a lifetime occurance and i would be very suprised if any team is able to do something similar for a very long time, but obviously i hope i am wrong.

sherer 09-02-2007 10:26

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Rossi is very much in the Zola and maybe Owen mold.. Not a very tall player but he has pace and loads of skill

bring a player on for 10 mins when you 3-0 up is never really going to do him much good

it's a shame he was out on load as i think earlier this season he could have got a few games at OT.. he has potential and I think could be a great player for us as long as he can cope with the pace and speed of the prem

TheDaddy 09-02-2007 11:07

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That Lee Martin is supposed to be quite a prospect and Foster is obviously quality, tbh though next season is probably make or break for most of them, if they don't do it next season then they never will, at United at any rate

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34216766)
i can't help but feel that was a once in a lifetime occurance and i would be very suprised if any team is able to do something similar for a very long time, but obviously i hope i am wrong.

Except we did it not so long after and considering a lot of them took their places in the England team you could say they are of a similar quality

sherer 09-02-2007 11:13

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well we did it with the Busby Babes and in 92 as well so i'm sure we can bring some of them through

the trouble is it seems that with all the pressure involved we would rather go out and buy a younster for 10m than use one of our own

i've never been a fan of VDS, just look at the punch that cost us a goal v Reading so i'd rather play Foster next season anyway

Shadow Demon UK 09-02-2007 15:21

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34217040)
Except we did it not so long after and considering a lot of them took their places in the England team you could say they are of a similar quality

Are you talking about Cole, Lampard, Defoe etc? If so weren't alot of those players playing for you when you got relegated? I don't think they were as good as the United players of '92 to be honest anyway, none of them have been as successful as the United players even though they are in the England team.

TheDaddy 09-02-2007 15:30

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34217246)
Are you talking about Cole, Lampard, Defoe etc? If so weren't alot of those players playing for you when you got relegated? I don't think they were as good as the United players of '92 to be honest anyway, none of them have been as successful as the United players even though they are in the England team.

Don't let the fact that Rio and Lampard has already left cloud you, presumably you are including the greats like Phil Neville and Nicky Butt in your team, I also like the fact you haven't mentioned the fact that two of them now for your team and three of the others now play for the Champions Chelsea, also it's not just that they got in the England team but they got in the team and replaced your players Carrick for Butt, Lampard for Scholes etc.

Shadow Demon UK 09-02-2007 15:54

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34217258)
Don't let the fact that Rio and Lampard has already left cloud you, presumably you are including the greats like Phil Neville and Nicky Butt in your team, I also like the fact you haven't mentioned the fact that two of them now for your team and three of the others now play for the Champions Chelsea, also it's not just that they got in the England team but they got in the team and replaced your players Carrick for Butt, Lampard for Scholes etc.

I suppose your right, even though Lampard didn't replace Scholes in the England team as he retired and would still be in the England team before Lampard now. It's difficult to compare the two sets of players because one group was kept together and the other group all went to different teams. I just don't think the players coming through at United now will have the same opportunity as the players of '92 had because of the competition in the premiership is much better now, they wont have the time to settle because any slip ups could cost the league.

TheDaddy 09-02-2007 16:27

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34217286)
I suppose your right, even though Lampard didn't replace Scholes in the England team as he retired and would still be in the England team before Lampard now. It's difficult to compare the two sets of players because one group was kept together and the other group all went to different teams. I just don't think the players coming through at United now will have the same opportunity as the players of '92 had because of the competition in the premiership is much better now, they wont have the time to settle because any slip ups could cost the league.

Yes it's a pity we put upgrading our stadium ahead of success on the pitch, players like Joe Cole, Rio, Frank Lampard are world class and people like Defoe and Carrick still have time to develop in to the same, Glenn Johnson seems to have gone backwards but then he to is still young, it would have been interesting as you say to see what this group of players could of achieved had they been kept together for longer than just one season but it wasn't to be

BBKing 09-02-2007 21:02

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Originally Posted by Fergie
"What we do with them next year is a big question mark for us because, when you are 19, you can appease them by putting them on loan for a spell.

Or, if you're Arsene Wenger, you put them in the team and they win Premiership Player of the Month:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/6348331.stm

In other news, I thought Liverpool fans would like to know a bit about the fella who's just bought their club. Bit of a mate of Dubya's (to the extent of bunging him a quarter of a billion greens). I like the way they do business in Texas - want to fatten up your club for sale? Get a friendly politician to impose a sales tax and use the money to do the ground up. Kerching! Back of the net!

http://bloodandtreasure.typepad.com/..._of_sport.html

[Mind you, the Arsenal have linked up with some bigwig in Colorado who'll probably turn out to be a Grand Wizard in the KKK or something knowing my luck]

Russ 09-02-2007 21:07

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34217686)
Or, if you're Arsene Wenger, you put them in the team and they win Premiership Player of the Month:

Or if you're Fergie you give them experience in games and they turn up some eye-watering displays and develop in to one of the most exciting wingers ever seen in the Premiership.

Ronaldo

BBKing 09-02-2007 21:10

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some eye-watering displays
Certainly made my eyes water when Rooney stamped on his gonads.

Shadow Demon UK 09-02-2007 21:14

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34217712)
Certainly made my eyes water when Rooney stamped on his gonads.

Did he? ;)

yesman 09-02-2007 22:47

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34217712)
Certainly made my eyes water when Rooney stamped on his gonads.

Actually it was Ricardo Carvalho who was the victim, plus it was accidental.

Anyway......

As you say, Arsenal are the next club primed be taken over.
The spokesman for Wenger's main sponser "specsavers" said....
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I didn't see this coming
no change there then :D

Seriously though, Murdoch is acheiving his main aim here, attracting *big money men* into his emporium.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the future, hopefully not to the detriment or extinction (due to unforseen tax liabilities or whatever) of the clubs.

As a fan of football I find all this foreign takeover business quite worrying.
As I see it, Some clubs will benefit, some will fall by the wayside.

gazzae 11-02-2007 23:33

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Worst Dive Ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLZQVtKkK9k

Russ 11-02-2007 23:37

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Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34219870)

:rofl:

Roffle roffle, how did I know it would be an Arsenal player...

sherer 12-02-2007 09:57

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yeah it was a dive but Ronaldo has done some just as bad so I don't think we should be getting on our high horse here.

they all do it and i don't think anyone at FIFA, UEFA or The FA even wants to stop it

during the Arsenal game Heskey could have used his strength to stay on his feet and put the ball in the net but he chose to fall over with the contact.. yes there was contact and 9 times out of 10 that would be a pen but he could have stayed up

Henry fell over.. dived call it what you will but if the ref had given a pen he wouldn't have said to the ref "actually i just fell over" he would have taken it and prob scored

i know this my shock some of you but the other day my gf actually touched my face.. i didn't roll over on the floor screaming in pain either

in fact has anyone ever seen in public or at a hospital an injured person rolling backwards and forwards on the floor in pain ?

gazzae what you think of the game on Sat ? was there too and thought the performance was terrible.. we couldn't even string a pass together and didn't even have a ball winner in midfield.. very poor display.. as they said after all the England games at the WC "we won ugly"

TheDaddy 12-02-2007 10:01

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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34220075)
during the Arsenal game Heskey could have used his strength to stay on his feet and put the ball in the net but he chose to fall over with the contact.. yes there was contact and 9 times out of 10 that would be a pen but he could have stayed up

I saw Lee Dixon on MotD2 say that he was 'entitled' to go over, that is just the sort of attitude that allows this crap to go on, I hate divers, them and agents will ruin this sport if we aren't careful

gazzae 12-02-2007 10:16

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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34220075)
gazzae what you think of the game on Sat ? was there too and thought the performance was terrible.. we couldn't even string a pass together and didn't even have a ball winner in midfield.. very poor display.. as they said after all the England games at the WC "we won ugly"

It wasn't the best game, I thought that Scholes looked isolated at times in midfield and he gave the ball away a few times. Kuszczak didn't have much to do but it was a great save in the first half. Park impressed me at times as well. Didn't think Saha had the greatest game, I would have taken him off for Larsson rather than Giggs. Thought Rooney was great, that chance in the first have, the pass to Saha in the second and the way he set up Fletcher's goal.

Where were you sitting? We were in the North East Quadrant.

sherer 12-02-2007 10:28

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Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34220096)
Where were you sitting? We were in the North East Quadrant.

was in the South Stand just behind where they come out the tunnel... not great seats as when the ball was at the far end in the first half you couldn't really see the play very well or if they were on the 18 yard line or not.. £37 which i don't think was great value for money.. when I go and see Palace they have A and B games so when you see a lower side and they don't field the top players you pay less for a ticket.. might send them a mail to see what they say as think my seats were overpriced

though Scholes and Fletcher were v poor no one took control of the midfield and both gave it away.. thought park did very little but i'm not a fan of his .. in the second half he was on his own on the left wing the whole game with no one on him and the ball never got to him once.. don't think he would have done much but would have been nice to get the ball to the bloke in space

gazzae 12-02-2007 11:10

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Think ours were probably around £35, thats what I gave my mate anyway as we were using his season ticket.

sherer 12-02-2007 11:49

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more hypocrisy from prem players and managers .. Henry and Wenger have both had a go about Kirkland and time wasting but i can't see any comments from any of them saying they are unhappy with Lehman for doing the same thing

TheDaddy 12-02-2007 12:05

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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34220172)
more hypocrisy from prem players and managers .. Henry and Wenger have both had a go about Kirkland and time wasting but i can't see any comments from any of them saying they are unhappy with Lehman for doing the same thing

Kirkland was doing it in the first half though, I don't condone any form of unsportsmanship, but doing it in the first half is taking the pish out of fans imo

sherer 12-02-2007 12:50

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34220179)
Kirkland was doing it in the first half though, I don't condone any form of unsportsmanship, but doing it in the first half is taking the pish out of fans imo


true but then as soon as Arsenal took the lead Lehman did it.. two wrongs don't make a right and Wenger could have said Lehman did the same thing and apologised for that but he didn't

it's the same with diving.. and Man U have done this season and get away with it then complain if it happens to us

take the game on Sat Rio got injured but we played then when the move broke down and Charlton got the ball we made them kick it out to Rio could get treatment.. that is sporting but i've seen loads of home teams do the same too

Shadow Demon UK 12-02-2007 16:36

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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34220075)
yeah it was a dive but Ronaldo has done some just as bad so I don't think we should be getting on our high horse here.

This season the only time i can remember Ronaldo diving was against Spurs and none have been as bad as that Henry one, that was a joke and i can't believe he wasn't booked.

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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34220075)
gazzae what you think of the game on Sat ? was there too and thought the performance was terrible.. we couldn't even string a pass together and didn't even have a ball winner in midfield.. very poor display.. as they said after all the England games at the WC "we won ugly"

These are the sort of games that win teams the league ;)

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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34220100)
was in the South Stand just behind where they come out the tunnel... not great seats as when the ball was at the far end in the first half you couldn't really see the play very well or if they were on the 18 yard line or not.. £37 which i don't think was great value for money.. when I go and see Palace they have A and B games so when you see a lower side and they don't field the top players you pay less for a ticket.. might send them a mail to see what they say as think my seats were overpriced

That's about the price i pay when i go, i find that the best places to sit are in the East or West stand tier two, i prefer not to sit in tier one as the view and atmosphere is generally not as good. Just to let you know the prices at United are less than at Arsenal and Chelsea.

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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34220172)
more hypocrisy from prem players and managers .. Henry and Wenger have both had a go about Kirkland and time wasting but i can't see any comments from any of them saying they are unhappy with Lehman for doing the same thing

When Henry held the ball at Kirklands face after the equaliser i would have smacked him one, everyone thinks he's 'Mr nice guy' but he's not, he complains with every decision, dives and what he did to Kirkland was just stupid and the ref was right to book him for it.

yesman 12-02-2007 19:47

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An Arsenal fans view :disturbd:

Be warned, the link leads to an Arsenal fans blog ;)

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Andrei Kanchelskis has decided to retire from football

http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...912453,00.html

yesman 13-02-2007 00:01

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Cristiano Ronaldo claims his World Cup bust-up with Wayne Rooney has made their friendship stronger

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Ronaldo enraged many supporters with his perceived goading of Rooney during the World Cup, with many holding him directly responsible for the striker's red card against Portugal and England's subsequent exit from the tournament.
The Manchester United winger has had to cope with abuse from away fans in the Premiership this season but has performed sensationally, and he insists he has a good relationship with Rooney.
"After everything that went on Wayne and I are still the best of mates. That has been proved by the way we have played this season," he said. "Wayne and I are like brothers and what happened at the World Cup has just made our friendship stronger.
Whats the odds on him moving to Spain in the next six months :rolleyes:

Quite likely I reckon, £50m and no less Fergie

TheDaddy 13-02-2007 10:09

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Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34220951)
Cristiano Ronaldo claims his World Cup bust-up with Wayne Rooney has made their friendship stronger

Whats the odds on him moving to Spain in the next six months :rolleyes:

Quite likely I reckon, £50m and no less Fergie

Don't know what the odd's were, I would say they have shortened a little though, maybe Wayne was the close friend he told :D, if I were Fergie I am not sure I'd sell him for that, he is irreplaceable, I would say a lot depends on who you sign this summer, spend big on the likes of Torres and Hargreaves and you'll have a chance of keeping him

Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo has told his close friends he has no intention of turning his back on the club in favour of a move to Barcelona or Real Madrid. (Daily Mirror)

sherer 13-02-2007 10:15

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TBH i can see him going.. he comes from Maderia with the warm year round climate and has the choice of either playing in the Prem in Manchester with the cold wet weather and as soon as he touches the ball someone is on him trying to kick and foul him

or he can move to Barca or Read with the Spanish culture and know the language and the food with warm weather and a beach in Barca plus he gets more time and space on the ball

gazzae 14-02-2007 09:48

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34221107)
Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo has told his close friends he has no intention of turning his back on the club in favour of a move to Barcelona or Real Madrid. (Daily Mirror)

But if you listen to The Sun, he has told other "close" friends that he is leaving!

As usual papers just make things up.

yesman 15-02-2007 00:40

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Ronaldo montage, it's worth a look if you are a football fan :tu:

It will be a shame if he leaves United.

Derek 15-02-2007 13:59

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Mad Vlad has another carefully considered and well thought out go at other teams in Scottish football.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/6364051.stm

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Originally Posted by BBC
Hearts majority shareholder Vladimir Romanov has accused the Old Firm of Rangers and Celtic of "buying off" referees and players in Scotland.


yesman 17-02-2007 16:04

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It sounds like Nistelrooy is still hurt over being kicked out at United.

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Van Nistelrooy was left out of United's Carling Cup final team against Wigan last year and he was unable to deal with the snub.
"I exploded and began swearing at Ferguson because I felt he had kicked my soul," revealed Van Nistelrooy. "That was the moment things died and could never be the same again."
While he was a great goal scorer as his record suggests, he was hardly a scorer of great goals, plus I think the team now has a better balance to it imo

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/6370781.stm

TheBlueRaja 17-02-2007 18:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34223109)
Mad Vlad has another carefully considered and well thought out go at other teams in Scottish football.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/6364051.stm

He called the press "Monkeys" midweek and today at the match handed out bananas and nuts to the press as they came in.

At half time he played songs by the Monkeys and is generally non to cheffed by the Scottish press.

For that at least he has my support.

yesman 19-02-2007 07:21

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Oh Dear !!!!

Bellamy faces uncertain future as Liverpool reel from golf club attack

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Liverpool's preparations for Wednesday's Champions League game at Barcelona have been overshadowed by drunken misbehaviour on the Algarve. Craig Bellamy is facing a heavy fine and an uncertain future after a night out allegedly concluded with the forward using a golf club to attack his team-mate John Arne Riise.
The Guardian

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FA Cup....
Roeder backs calls to end replays

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Newcastle manager Glenn Roeder has backed calls for FA Cup ties to be decided by a single match.
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger wants replays scrapped and Roeder told BBC Five Live Sport he feels the same.
He said: "There are so many games to be played now that I would prefer for there to be only one match, decided by extra time and penalties if needed." However, Manchester United assistant boss Carlos Queiroz favours adding extra time to the first tie.
It may favour the bigger clubs, but smaller clubs would lose much needed revenue if replays were done away with.

BBC Sport

sherer 19-02-2007 12:53

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Chelsea report more losses 80m this time

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ea/6374753.stm

this is something none of the Chelsea fans never take into account.. it's not just the players RA has bought but the new training ground in Surrey.. paying off the old shirt deal.. paying off Ranieri plus all the debts each season

this takes is spending to close to a billion of not over that amount

don't forget some football league clubs have been docked points for operating in debt


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