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ianch99 30-01-2024 22:24

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36169188)
A Conservative appointed independent inquiry has ruled there was no corruption involved when the Conservative mayor of Teesside sold land worth £120 million to two tory chums for £100, thank goodness that's been cleared up :erm:

Yet there is no problem, nothing to see here :)

Ms NTL 31-01-2024 07:29

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:D
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36169205)
Yet there is no problem, nothing to see here :)


Paul 31-01-2024 14:02

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36169188)
A Conservative appointed independent inquiry has ruled there was no corruption involved when the Conservative mayor of Teesside sold land worth £120 million to two tory chums for £100, thank goodness that's been cleared up :erm:

Perhaps because the claim was simply not true.
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However, documents seen by the Local Democracy Reporting Service show that the land, which will soon be home to offshore wind factory SeAH, was disposed of for £15m. It is also understood that two separate valuations, from assessors registered with the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors, put the land at £13m and £11.8m.
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...after-26896387

Hugh 06-02-2024 09:51

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Kwasi Kwarteng standing down at the next election.

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Yesterday I informed my Association Chair of my decision not to stand at the next General Election. It has been an honour to serve the residents of Spelthorne since 2010, and I shall continue to do so for the remainder of my time in Parliament.
https://x.com/kwasikwarteng/status/1...Fx9lsEXWlOa1jg

I am sure his 39 days as Chancellor of the Exchequer will stand him in good stead in his future career.

Dave42 06-02-2024 12:07

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36169475)
Kwasi Kwarteng standing down at the next election.



https://x.com/kwasikwarteng/status/1...Fx9lsEXWlOa1jg

I am sure his 39 days as Chancellor of the Exchequer will stand him in good stead in his future career.

another rat deserting a sinking ship good riddance

TheDaddy 06-02-2024 13:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36169475)
Kwasi Kwarteng standing down at the next election.



https://x.com/kwasikwarteng/status/1...Fx9lsEXWlOa1jg

I am sure his 39 days as Chancellor of the Exchequer will stand him in good stead in his future career.

I'm sure it will, what else was the point of meeting with all those hedge fund managers the night before his crappy budget the rest of us are still paying for whilst point blankly refusing to meet with the office for budget responsibility. Other countries bitten by financial finagling like Iceland would have put him in prison but not us and I had the cheek to call him krazy :nutter: :shocking:

Mr K 06-02-2024 17:06

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36169483)
another rat deserting a sinking ship good riddance

A rat who knows he's going to lose his seat anyway....

He'll be made a Lord for services to being bonkers.

denphone 07-02-2024 13:03

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Just when you think a sitting prime minister could not sink any lower, Rishi Sunak comes out with a new low.:(

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2492095.html

Sephiroth 07-02-2024 13:19

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36169564)
Just when you think a sitting prime minister could not sink any lower, Rishi Sunak comes out with a new low.:(

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2492095.html

Oh please. Starmer has consistently refused to define a woman. The murder case to which the troublemakers (like you) are trying the link Sunak's remark, is completely unrelated.


TheDaddy 07-02-2024 13:40

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36169566)
Oh please. Starmer has consistently refused to define a woman. The murder case to which the troublemakers (like you) are trying the link Sunak's remark, is completely unrelated.

Please her mum was in the room or building at least, it's not woke to consider her feelings above having a pop at the opposition leader

Sephiroth 07-02-2024 14:32

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36169569)
Please her mum was in the room or building at least, it's not woke to consider her feelings above having a pop at the opposition leader

How did Sunak know that? If she hadn't been there, nobody would have turned a hair.

It's confected outrage.

Pierre 07-02-2024 14:37

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36169569)
Please her mum was in the room or building at least, it's not woke to consider her feelings above having a pop at the opposition leader

As abhorrent as the murder of that child was, Trans ideology is not something we should be readily entertaining in our society.

Hugh 07-02-2024 14:53

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36169571)
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy View Post
Please her mum was in the room or building at least, it's not woke to consider her feelings above having a pop at the opposition leader
How did Sunak know that? If she hadn't been there, nobody would have turned a hair.

It's confected outrage.

Quote:

Before the comments, Mr Sunak had been told Ms Ghey was in the public gallery watching PMQs.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68229785

Pierre 07-02-2024 15:19

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36169573)

Makes no difference, any MP should be allowed to say what they want on the chamber regardless……even if it upsets somebody

ianch99 07-02-2024 15:25

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36169569)
Please her mum was in the room or building at least, it's not woke to consider her feelings above having a pop at the opposition leader

Maybe he thinks the bigots will vote for him in the upcoming GE, let's face it, they are probably all he has left.

TheDaddy 07-02-2024 15:49

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36169571)
How did Sunak know that? If she hadn't been there, nobody would have turned a hair.

It's confected outrage.

Wow look at you rushing to miss the point, fact is she was there and he knew she was there, just shows all the money in the world doesn't buy you any class and you sticking up for him just shows how little you've got too

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36169579)
Makes no difference, any MP should be allowed to say what they want on the chamber regardless……even if it upsets somebody

They shouldn't be surprised when they're called out for being a total git then

Paul 07-02-2024 15:55

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Good grief, more fake "offence" being taken.

TheDaddy 07-02-2024 16:33

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36169583)
Good grief, more fake "offence" being taken.

Dunno about you but I think Sir Beer seemed genuinely angry, good, about time he showed he had a bit about him

jfman 07-02-2024 16:47

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36169572)
As abhorrent as the murder of that child was, Trans ideology is not something we should be readily entertaining in our society.

While I’m sceptical myself it’s the insensitivity that Sunak showed that’s the issue at hand. You’d expect slightly more political nous from the PM. In reality I doubt he intended to cause offence someone has fed him a good line and he’s gone with it. On any other day, it’d probably have been a good one.

Paul 07-02-2024 18:15

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JFYI ...

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In fact it later transpired that Brianna’s mother was not actually in the Commons chamber when Mr Starmer and Mr Sunak crossed swords.

Hugh 07-02-2024 18:23

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36169598)
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In fact it later transpired that Brianna’s mother was not actually in the Commons chamber when Mr Starmer and Mr Sunak crossed swords.
JFYI ...

But he didn’t know that…

He had just been informed, one minute before he said his jibe, that she was in the gallery…

1andrew1 07-02-2024 22:46

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Interesting commentary from Sky News's Sam Coates who revealed that today was being lined up by the Conservatives to challenge Labour on their green prosperity plan.
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"They thought internally it was going to be a really big day, a reset day that pivoted the whole conversation back in their favour," he says.

"The big problem for Rishi Sunak today is that he personally messed it up with what happened at PMQs."

Sam goes on to say the PM is telling people in Downing Street that he "just didn't hear Keir Starmer mention that Brianna's mother was in the gallery".

He says there was a discussion about whether an apology was needed, but then Business Secretary Kemi Badenoch intervened to attack Sir Keir, which "completely took away any freedom for Number 10".

"Effectively, you had the spectre of the prime minister being bullied by one of his cabinet members and having his options cut off," he says.

"That is an extraordinary position for a prime minister to be in."
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...armer-12593360

Pierre 07-02-2024 22:56

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36169600)
But he didn’t know that…


So what?

1andrew1 07-02-2024 23:08

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36169600)
But he didn’t know that…

He had just been informed, one minute before he said his jibe, that she was in the gallery…

According to Sunak, he "just didn't hear Keir Starmer mention that Brianna's mother was in the gallery".

Did someone else mention it to him before Starmer did?

Pierre 07-02-2024 23:13

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36169638)
According to Sunak, he "just didn't hear Keir Starmer mention that Brianna's mother was in the gallery".

She wasn’t.

Paul 07-02-2024 23:18

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Who cares, just another huge fuss over nothing.

1andrew1 07-02-2024 23:31

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36169642)
Who cares, just another huge fuss over nothing.

The crucial thing is that today was meant to be the turning point for the Conservatives, with the aim of placing Labour on the defensive over its green prosperity plan. The insensitive timing meant instead Sunak snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

jfman 08-02-2024 05:41

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36169638)
According to Sunak, he "just didn't hear Keir Starmer mention that Brianna's mother was in the gallery".

Did someone else mention it to him before Starmer did?

To be fair, in the pantomime that is PMQs, it wouldn’t surprise me if he did switch off while rehearsing his lines.

There’s often some kind of irrelevant reflection (recent death, terror attack, natural disaster) at the start of proceedings and a marked tone shift during it.

1andrew1 11-02-2024 21:54

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36169646)
To be fair, in the pantomime that is PMQs, it wouldn’t surprise me if he did switch off while rehearsing his lines.

There’s often some kind of irrelevant reflection (recent death, terror attack, natural disaster) at the start of proceedings and a marked tone shift during it.

I think that's quite possible. Sunak would have not done it if he'd known the family were going to be in the Chamber imminently.

It was nearly a good attack by Sunak. If he'd left off the trans-gender comment, he would have landed a solid blow against Starmer. Particularly as Starmer u-turned later on that day on Labour's green funding pledge.

TheDaddy 12-02-2024 14:25

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All over twitter that the prime miniature's wife's company received a 50% boost in contracts it could invoice the government for in 2023, it's like that parties entire reason for existence is to bleed the country dry for the betterment of themselves, chums and donors, from first day till hopefully last that's all they've done

1andrew1 13-02-2024 15:17

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I think Sunak is probably having a good day given Labour's management of the situation of their now ex-candidate in Rochdale. https://news.sky.com/story/rochdale-...m-row-13070338

Chris 13-02-2024 15:32

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I can’t believe Starmer allowed this to become such a massive own-goal. If the ex-Labour man wins the by election there will be a general election within months anyway and they can just deselect him. Trying to brass it out was pointless. It was always going to end this way. His only real choice was whether to be seen to be decisive, or a ditherer. That he couldn’t see that is not encouraging.

However, Sunak is hardly a gifted politician either. He is more than capable of failing to capitalise on this.

1andrew1 14-02-2024 00:03

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36170043)
I can’t believe Starmer allowed this to become such a massive own-goal. If the ex-Labour man wins the by election there will be a general election within months anyway and they can just deselect him. Trying to brass it out was pointless. It was always going to end this way. His only real choice was whether to be seen to be decisive, or a ditherer. That he couldn’t see that is not encouraging.

However, Sunak is hardly a gifted politician either. He is more than capable of failing to capitalise on this.

Labour's not giving the impression of being the party-in-waiting with the faffing here.

It's also now on its way now to suspending Graham Jones, former MP for Hyndburn who had hoped to be its general election candidate. It's for leaked interview comments in which he called for Britons fighting for the defence forces of “f.....g Israel” to be “locked up”.

But, despite being handed these two get-out-of-jail-free cards, I agree, I can't see Sunak successfully deploying them to land the punch that he desperately needs.

Paul 14-02-2024 01:26

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36170072)
I can't see Sunak successfully deploying them to land the punch that he desperately needs.

Maybe, maybe not, but it makes them look like an equally useless bunch of idiots.
What a great choice we'll have at the next election, the Muppets or the Muppets. :rolleyes:

Sephiroth 14-02-2024 08:49

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With the self-righteous hypocrites accusing Israel of genocide in relation to their Rafah intentions, why aren't they saying likewise about Hamas who are putting up 4 battalions (reported) to fight in amongst their own people?

denphone 16-02-2024 07:14

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The message is very clear from the electorate...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2497192.html

Quote:

Rishi Sunak has suffered a devastating double blow as Labour stormed to back-to-back by-election victories overnight.

Hours after official figures showed Britain has fallen into a recession, the prime minister saw Labour overturn huge Tory majorities in Kingswood and Wellingborough.

Russ 16-02-2024 07:23

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:D :D :D

It warms the cockles to watch the **** party disintegrate. Can't wait for them to be booted out in October :D

GrimUpNorth 16-02-2024 08:44

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36170262)
:D :D :D

It warms the cockles to watch the **** party disintegrate. Can't wait for them to be booted out in October :D

I have a horrible feeling it won't be in October as they'll want to stay on the gravy train as long as possible - there's still quite a bit of cash to milk from GB plc. They know they're in for a kicking so I wouldn't be surprised if they delay the election though to the end of January next year but I hope I'm wrong.

Sephiroth 16-02-2024 08:50

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36170262)
:D :D :D

It warms the cockles to watch the **** party disintegrate. Can't wait for them to be booted out in October :D

You should not be talking like that. Your words make clear that you consider party members like me to be **** and that cannot be justified.

peanut 16-02-2024 09:17

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36170264)
You should not be talking like that. Your words make clear that you consider party members like me to be **** and that cannot be justified.

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2024/02/3.jpg

Russ 16-02-2024 09:25

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36170264)
You should not be talking like that. Your words make clear that you consider party members like me to be **** and that cannot be justified.

Oh this old BS again?

"Infamy infamy, they've all got it in for me!" :rolleyes:

I am not responsible for your perception of my posts.

1andrew1 16-02-2024 09:41

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On a day of very bad news for Sunak a slither of good news for him.
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Surprise surge in retail sales suggests economy is growing - despite UK entering recession

January had the largest recovery in retail sales since April 2021 as people bought more across all sectors, except clothing.

The 3.4% increase in retail sales is more than double the 1.5% rise forecast by analysts - and suggests the economy is recovering.

Not since April 2021 has there been a rise as large as the recovery from December to January.

The January bump in retail sales more than compensates for a shock fall in the key Christmas shopping month of December, where a 3.3% fall was recorded, after the number was revised downwards by the Office for National Statistics on Friday.
https://news.sky.com/story/surprise-...ssion-13072731

Sephiroth 16-02-2024 09:44

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36170267)
Oh this old BS again?

"Infamy infamy, they've all got it in for me!" :rolleyes:

I am not responsible for your perception of my posts.

You are responsible for the disgraceful language you have employed.

denphone 16-02-2024 09:49

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36170271)
You are responsible for the disgraceful language you have employed.

He is entitled to have his view whatever it is about any political party, just as you are entitled to have your view about a good many different political issues on this forum.

Sephiroth 16-02-2024 09:54

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36170273)
He is entitled to have his view whatever it is about any political party, just as you are entitled to have your view about a good many different political issues on this forum.

But, by association he has called me "****". Possibly he means it. That language should be avoided when it can be taken personally.

Hugh 16-02-2024 09:55

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36170271)
You are responsible for the disgraceful language you have employed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36170274)
But, by association he has called me "****". Possibly he means it. That language should be avoided when it can be taken personally.



Can you imagine someone defaming and blaming a whole community for the bad actions of a few?

Sephiroth 16-02-2024 09:59

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36170275)
Can you imagine someone defaming and blaming a whole community for the bad actions of a few?

Very much so. See Hamas/Gaza for details. It's exactly the same thing. The Tory party is/are ****; I'm a party member, ergo ....

Hugh 16-02-2024 10:08

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36170277)
Very much so. See Hamas/Gaza for details. It's exactly the same thing. The Tory party is/are ****; I'm a party member, ergo ....

OK, now apply that to Muslims…

Meanwhile, at the Daily Telegraph

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1708077928

And according to Jacob Rees-Mogg
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"It's not as bad as I expected, because if you add together the Tory & Reform UK votes it's more than the Labour vote... "

Russ 16-02-2024 10:25

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Ah well. The Tory Party is, in my opinion, the **** party.

If I thought you were **** I'd tell you. Don't you worry about that

1andrew1 16-02-2024 13:08

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36170278)
And according to Jacob Rees-Mogg

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"It's not as bad as I expected, because if you add together the Tory & Reform UK votes it's more than the Labour vote... "
Yes, of course they'd all vote for the Conservatives if there was no Reform UK candidate! In his dreams!

He's a straw-clutching :dunce:

Pierre 16-02-2024 15:44

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It's very difficult for a lot people come November, or whenever.

I cannot vote for Labour, I'd rather burn.

I can't currently vote Tory, they don't deserve it.

I don't want to vote Reform

Don't even mention LibDems.

I think it's very likely I won't vote this year.

And although turnouts in byelections are usually low, they were very low.

I think this general election will be the lowest turn out for a very long time.

Russ 16-02-2024 15:51

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There's always Plaid Cymru :D

denphone 16-02-2024 16:00

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Or the Raving Loony Party.;)

Paul 16-02-2024 18:36

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36170291)
Or the Raving Loony Party.;)

I think you mean "Official Monster Raving Loony Party" ;)

Mr K 16-02-2024 20:01

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36170288)
It's very difficult for a lot people come November, or whenever.

I cannot vote for Labour, I'd rather burn.

I can't currently vote Tory, they don't deserve it.

I don't want to vote Reform

Don't even mention LibDems.

I think it's very likely I won't vote this year.

And although turnouts in byelections are usually low, they were very low.

I think this general election will be the lowest turn out for a very long time.

Stand yourself, then you'll know who to vote for.

---------- Post added at 20:01 ---------- Previous post was at 19:55 ----------

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36170262)
:D :D :D

It warms the cockles to watch the **** party disintegrate. Can't wait for them to be booted out in October :D

It was a disappointing g night for the Conservative party I must agree. ;)

Trouble is they've done do much damage to infrastructure of this country we'll never recover. Those who voted for them in the last 14 years must take some responsibility for that.

Pierre 17-02-2024 09:27

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36170307)
Stand yourself, then you'll know who to vote for.


I wouldn’t vote for me, i’d be far to authoritarian

Russ 17-02-2024 14:34

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36170307)
Those who voted for them in the last 14 years must take some responsibility for that.

Oh don't be daft, it's always someone else's fault. Brown people in boats, the EU, Putin etc

Paul 17-02-2024 15:30

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36170307)
Those who voted for them in the last 14 years must take some responsibility for that.

Do those who voted Labour for the preceeding 14 years take some responsibility for the Gulf and Iraq wars, or the financial crisis of 2007/8 ?

Or those before that, for whatever crisis there was at the time, going back however long you want ?

Russ 17-02-2024 15:52

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Considering the financial crisis was a worldwide issue I don't think that can be pinned on Labour. Just a small point though.

And as much as they fudged a few things up between 1997 and 2010, the corruption and blatant BS of the Tories over 14 years (as well as the Brexit shitshow), surely trumps the lot

Maggy 17-02-2024 15:53

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It would be helpful if we got MORE decent human beings putting themselves forward to be MPs.

denphone 17-02-2024 16:19

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36170349)
It would be helpful if we got MORE decent human beings putting themselves forward to be MPs.

+1

Mr K 17-02-2024 20:20

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36170349)
It would be helpful if we got MORE decent human beings putting themselves forward to be MPs.

The electorate tend to vote for the populist of the day rather than decent talented people. If those people are earning a decent wage elsewhere, why would they bother?

Hence why we've fallen for self defeating stuff like Brexit and Boris. The result, the country we've got now. Buck stops with the electorate, they can blame no one but themselves.

.....

Maggy 18-02-2024 10:47

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36170364)
The electorate tend to vote for the populist of the day rather than decent talented people. If those people are earning a decent wage elsewhere, why would they bother?

Hence why we've fallen for self defeating stuff like Brexit and Boris. The result, the country we've got now. Buck stops with the electorate, they can blame no one but themselves.

.....

PART of the electorate,not all of us. :rolleyes:

Mr K 18-02-2024 11:02

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36170385)
PART of the electorate,not all of us. :rolleyes:

The majority of the electorate then. They treat elections like a reality TV vote. Not who is most competent, who is more entertaining/a bit of a laugh.
They aren't laughing now ( Boris is, he's raking it in on the speaker circuit).

Itshim 18-02-2024 11:54

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36170289)
There's always Plaid Cymru :D

The left wing ,we will vote with labour so we can get on TV party. Will be interesting to see whom Welsh Labour blame for the mess they are making of Wales when labour form the UK government . Its all the fault of the English tories , is their mantra :erm:

Russ 19-02-2024 11:51

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That's because it usually is :D

1andrew1 19-02-2024 12:17

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36170388)
The left wing ,we will vote with labour so we can get on TV party. Will be interesting to see whom Welsh Labour blame for the mess they are making of Wales when labour form the UK government . Its all the fault of the English tories , is their mantra :erm:

The Westminster party in charge normally favours its own so I'm sure Wales will come out well financially. They also have more motivation to keep their devolved bretheren in check.

London does well when the party in Westminster is the same one as the Mayor but if not, it gets shafted.

ianch99 19-02-2024 15:17

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36170387)
The majority of the electorate then. They treat elections like a reality TV vote. Not who is most competent, who is more entertaining/a bit of a laugh.
They aren't laughing now ( Boris is, he's raking it in on the speaker circuit).

Steady on, not even a majority of the electorate. I mean 2016 was only 37% and 2019 GE was only 43% :(

Paul 19-02-2024 15:20

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The requirement of ID to vote might reduce it this time as well.

Sephiroth 19-02-2024 15:22

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36170489)
Steady on, not even a majority of the electorate. I mean 2016 was only 37% and 2019 GE was only 43% :(

You'd have accepted the result without question had the result been 52% Remain on a 37% turnout. Or am I wrong?

ianch99 19-02-2024 15:31

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36170492)
You'd have accepted the result without question had the result been 52% Remain on a 37% turnout. Or am I wrong?

Not sure this is the correct thread but to answer your question, the referendum was void in my mind due to the lack of a qualifying super majority that such macro level economic & societal changes demand.

Sephiroth 19-02-2024 15:38

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36170494)
Not sure this is the correct thread but to answer your question, the referendum was void in my mind due to the lack of a qualifying super majority that such macro level economic & societal changes demand.

Yes, of course. But you haven't answered my question properly, mereley swerved it.

Had this "should have been void" referendum gone the way of Remain on a 37% turnout, would you have complained?

ianch99 19-02-2024 16:56

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36170496)
Yes, of course. But you haven't answered my question properly, mereley swerved it.

Had this "should have been void" referendum gone the way of Remain on a 37% turnout, would you have complained?

Yes, I would have complained that the vote took place at all given the rules in place.

Sephiroth 19-02-2024 17:02

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36170502)
Yes, I would have complained that the vote took place at all given the rules in place.

Another swerve.

pip08456 19-02-2024 18:34

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36170492)
You'd have accepted the result without question had the result been 52% Remain on a 37% turnout. Or am I wrong?

Of course the remainers would have. They would also have complained if leave tried to include the non-voters to make their point.

Mr K 19-02-2024 18:39

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36170521)
Of course the remainers would have. They would also have complained if leave tried to include the non-voters to make their point.

It's all worked out so well too. Another vote where populists have conned the electorate and failed to deliver. Are the likes of Farage/Boris in it for you, or themselves?

Do 'thinking' before you vote is my top tip ;)

Sephiroth 19-02-2024 18:42

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36170522)
It's all worked out so well too. Another vote where populists have conned the electorate and failed to deliver. Are the likes of Farage/Boris in it for you, or themselves?

Do 'thinking' before you vote is my top tip ;)

.. and don't vote Labour is my tip.

Mr K 19-02-2024 19:18

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36170523)
.. and don't vote Labour is my tip.

I won't be, mainly thanks to our appalling electoral system, and the the constituency I'm in. As I said, do 'thinking ' before you vote.

Sephiroth 19-02-2024 19:21

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36170531)
I won't be, mainly thanks to our appalling electoral system, and the the constituency I'm in. As I said, do 'thinking ' before you vote.

Obviously.

Mr K 19-02-2024 19:26

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36170533)
Obviously.

So how are you going to tactically vote against Redwood? The clue is in his name btw ;)

Sephiroth 19-02-2024 19:39

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36170536)
So how are you going to tactically vote against Redwood? The clue is in his name btw ;)

I've done the thinking. I'm going to vote for Redwood.

Mr K 19-02-2024 20:06

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36170538)
I've done the thinking. I'm going to vote for Redwood.

Good man. That's 2 of you anyway.
I hear Mrs Redwood has long gone, and OB has defected to the Libdems :)

Sephiroth 19-02-2024 20:11

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36170540)
Good man. That's 2 of you anyway.
I hear Mrs Redwood has long gone, and OB has defected to the Libdems :)

Source?

Hugh 19-02-2024 20:40

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36170540)
Good man. That's 2 of you anyway.
I hear Mrs Redwood has long gone, and OB has defected to the Libdems :)

Thought he’d be more likely to be for this lot… ;)

https://www.reformparty.uk/wokingham-constituency

I wonder how many votes Mr Wright will take from the Conservatives?

Russ 19-02-2024 20:52

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Ah classic John Deadwood

https://youtu.be/WFP5MjUuzsg?si=VseT9tCbJlcRTEwe

daveeb 20-02-2024 14:00

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36170551)

Cracks me up every time I see that. Talk about rabbit in the headlights :shocked:

Hugh 21-02-2024 11:44

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-68348594

Quote:

Scott Benton: Lobbying scandal MP loses suspension appeal

Rishi Sunak faces the prospect of another difficult by-election after an independent panel upheld a 35-day suspension of MP Scott Benton.

The Blackpool South MP, who was caught in a lobbying scandal, has lost his appeal against the move.

MPs will vote on triggering a recall petition that could force a new poll.

Mr Benton was caught breaching Commons rules by offering to lobby ministers and table parliamentary questions on behalf of gambling investors.

He was elected as a Conservative in 2019 with a 3,690 majority but currently sits as an independent.

Mr Benton said he was "deeply disappointed" by the decision and claimed there had been a "lack of integrity" throughout the process, which was "prone to regular leaks at every stage".

The MP appealed against both the finding and the suspension, but a report by an independent panel upheld the Standards Committee's original decision, saying there had been "no procedural flaw" in the process.

The panel also described Mr Benton's arguments as "misconceived or erroneous", finding the sanction was "neither unreasonable nor disproportionate".

The finding means MPs will vote on whether to implement the recommended suspension which, if supported, would trigger a recall petition and a potential by-election in Mr Benton's seat.

Hugh 22-02-2024 12:11

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Mad as a box of frogs…

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9...aa5128add18198

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Liz Truss has told an audience near Washington that the civil service is being staffed by “trans activists” and “environmental extremists”, adding that her 49-day premiership was thwarted by the British equivalent of the deep state.

Sephiroth 22-02-2024 13:00

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36170685)

She should do one.

Mr K 22-02-2024 16:00

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'It's the final meltdown' as the song goes...

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Labour lead at 26pts
Westminster voting intention:

LAB: 46% (+2)
CON: 20% (-4)
REF: 13% (+2)
LDEM: 9% (-)
GRN: 7% (-1)

via
@YouGov
, 20 - 21 Feb



denphone 22-02-2024 18:36

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36170698)
'It's the final meltdown' as the song goes...

Despite El Govs best efforts those opinion polls ain't budging.

Paul 22-02-2024 22:03

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The're not going to change by much.

Must really hurt the LibDems that even when another party is so unpopular, they still cant get a vote ...

jfman 22-02-2024 22:09

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Suspect there’s a generation that’ll never forgive them for 2010.

Paul 23-02-2024 02:42

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2010 ?

jfman 23-02-2024 06:31

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36170736)
2010 ?

Going into coalition with the Conservatives.

Essentially if you want to vote the Tories out voting Lib Dem is a roll of the dice you don’t need to take.

denphone 24-02-2024 16:07

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Former Tory deputy chairman Lee Anderson has been suspended from the party after "refusing to apologise" for comments aimed at Sadiq Khan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68392621

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The Conservative Ashfield MP told GB News on Friday "Islamists" had "got control" of the mayor of London.

Responding on Saturday, Mr Khan described the remarks as "pouring fuel on the fire of anti-Muslim hatred".

Odds on that he join Reform UK now.

Mr K 24-02-2024 18:45

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36170842)
Former Tory deputy chairman Lee Anderson has been suspended from the party after "refusing to apologise" for comments aimed at Sadiq Khan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68392621




Odds on that he join Reform UK now.

Either way his days are an MP are numbered. I think he'd make a great Poundland employee. 'Lee (happy to help as long as you look like me)'. He'll have to do it or they'll stop his benefits...

Russ 25-02-2024 09:27

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Watching the **** party implode more and more each week really warms the cockles. Can't wait for the whole shower of shit to get voted out by a massive landslide :D

Most deserved boot out of power ever...

jfman 25-02-2024 10:29

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36170875)
Watching the **** party implode more and more each week really warms the cockles. Can't wait for the whole shower of shit to get voted out by a massive landslide :D

Most deserved boot out of power ever...

Steady, you’ll upset the snowflakes.

Russ 25-02-2024 10:31

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Nah, only the lefties are snowflakes remember!


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