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ScottishSteve 17-09-2021 09:33

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36093357)
Dropping HD from the DOG doesn't mean they will not stay in HD. Sky dropped HD from their DOGs a couple of years back.

Absolutely, as I am sure in some countries (Germany) HD is the norm.
That particular channel is played out from Warsaw so it would make sense.

Media Boy UK 17-09-2021 12:44

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36093357)
Dropping HD from the DOG doesn't mean they will not stay in HD. Sky dropped HD from their DOGs a couple of years back.

Licensee > Previous service name > New service name
Viacom International Media Networks U.K. Limited > MTV Live HD > MTV Live

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/manage-your...cences/updates

Media Boy UK 17-09-2021 14:47

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
BBC braced for more budget cuts as new licence fee deal nears

Announcement for five-year deal with government could come next week, with funding freeze anticipated.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...fee-deal-nears

ozsat 17-09-2021 14:49

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
It still doesn't mean they are dropping HD standard - just from their name.

Loads of HD channels do not have a licence with HD in the name - like UKTV and Sky channels.

Having HD as a part of the licenced channel name doesn't really mean much unless the HD service is different to the SD service.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36093394)
Licensee > Previous service name > New service name
Viacom International Media Networks U.K. Limited > MTV Live HD > MTV Live

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/manage-your...cences/updates


Media Boy UK 17-09-2021 16:12

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Two new apps coming to TV360

Virgin Media has reveal that All 4 and MTV Play will be available on Virgin TV 360 from Thursday 21 October.

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...virgin-tv-apps

ScottishSteve 17-09-2021 19:03

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36093416)
Two new apps coming to TV360

Virgin Media has reveal that All 4 and MTV Play will be available on Virgin TV 360 from Thursday 21 October.

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...virgin-tv-apps

Crikey that’s the opposite of what Virgin Media usually do.

They usually launch these things then tell us.

But over a MONTH ahead of it happening is never heard of.

Media Boy UK 17-09-2021 19:38

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36093440)
Crikey that’s the opposite of what Virgin Media usually do.

They usually launch these things then tell us.

But over a MONTH ahead of it happening is never heard of.

October 21st may turn out to be an busy day with the two new apps and the BBC new HD Channels rumour.

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...-channels.html

OLD BOY 17-09-2021 20:01

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36093416)
Two new apps coming to TV360

Virgin Media has reveal that All 4 and MTV Play will be available on Virgin TV 360 from Thursday 21 October.

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...virgin-tv-apps

…and Disney + will follow soon after, I understand. A goodish ending to the year for 360 subscribers.

Media Boy UK 17-09-2021 20:07

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36093458)
…and Disney + will follow soon after, I understand. A goodish ending to the year for 360 subscribers.

Been given no update since August 4th:

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...-talks-to.html

ozsat 18-09-2021 06:30

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Disney+ and Dazn were added to my model of Panasonic tv this week.

Disney+ is full UHD/HDR - but audio is only 2.0.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36093458)
…and Disney + will follow soon after, I understand. A goodish ending to the year for 360 subscribers.


Media Boy UK 18-09-2021 13:52

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Sources say that DAZN are leading the bidding race to buy BT Sport.

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Wikipedia says that DAZN has got Linear channels in Austria, Germany and Spain.


Austria and Germany:
-DAZN 1
-DAZN 2

Spain:
-DAZN 1
-DAZN 2
-DAZN 3
-DAZN 4

UK?:
-BT Sport 1 > DAZN 1
-BT Sport 2 > DAZN 2
-BT Sport 3 > DAZN 3
-BT Sport ESPN > DAZN 4
-BT Sport UHD > DAZN UHD

Also Wikipedia is reporting that Eurosport 1 is set to rebrand as Eurosport Events HD on December 1, 2021.

RichardCoulter 18-09-2021 15:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Is that Eurosport rebranding said to be permanent or temporary?

Media Boy UK 18-09-2021 15:55

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36093556)
Is that Eurosport rebranding said to be permanent or temporary?

No idea - but my sources told me in early August.

4/8/21: https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...confirmed.html

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All I know is from this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurosport_1

ScottishSteve 18-09-2021 18:26

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36093557)

[/COLOR]All I know is from this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurosport_1

Remember anyone can edit that so it is not a source of reliable info without a link.

Here is a bit about what is happening, it is a corporate rebrand rather than a channel rebrand which is possible in the future if they do decide to ditch the Eurosport brand (with the demise/rebrand of Sky One by Sky anything could happen nowadays)

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2021...sports-events/

epsilon 18-09-2021 19:05

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36093546)
Sources say that DAZN are leading the bidding race to buy BT Sport.

More about that here: https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...rt_464070.html
and here: https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/dazn-main-...o-buy-bt-sport

RichardCoulter 18-09-2021 21:00

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36093588)
Remember anyone can edit that so it is not a source of reliable info without a link.

Here is a bit about what is happening, it is a corporate rebrand rather than a channel rebrand which is possible in the future if they do decide to ditch the Eurosport brand (with the demise/rebrand of Sky One by Sky anything could happen nowadays)

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2021...sports-events/

I wonder if morphing Eurosport into the Discovery brand is a precursor to putting Eurosport onto Discovery+? Maybe it will be standalone or a discount will be available if both genres are purchased??

Some years ago I was privy to a document that showed that the eventual aim was for Discovery to close all their linear channels, apart from one, which would be used to showcase their content which would only be available on their own streaming service.

There was no mention of Eurosport.

Since then Discovery+ has been created, where all new content is shown first, and FTA channels have been created.
As these rely on ad revenue, I can't see them closing these, but i've no idea what they will do.

Legendkiller2k 18-09-2021 21:01

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36093608)
I wonder if morphing Eurosport into the Discovery brand is a precursor to putting Eurosport onto Discovery+? Maybe it will be standalone or a discount will be available if both genres are purchased??

Some years ago I was privy to a document that showed that the eventual aim was for Discovery to close all their linear channels, apart from one, which would be used to showcase their content which would only be available on their own streaming service.

There was no mention of Eurosport.

Since then Discovery+ has been created, where all new content is shown first, and FTA channels have been created.
As these rely on ad revenue, I can't see them closing these, but i've no idea what they will do.

Eurosport was temporarly on Discovery+ during the olympics.

RichardCoulter 18-09-2021 21:10

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36093609)
Eurosport was temporarly on Discovery+ during the olympics.

Ahhh right. Perhaps this was also a test to see how the system could cope??

ScottishSteve 18-09-2021 23:18

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Eurosport is now an integral part of Discovery+ And costs a few quid extra a month.

You can no longer purchase a sub to Eurosport Player

cheekyangus 18-09-2021 23:49

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36093633)
Eurosport is now an integral part of Discovery+ And costs a few quid extra a month.

You can no longer purchase a sub to Eurosport Player

No surprised, they have not pushed Eurosport Player since just before the Olympics. The commentators only mention Discovery+ and GCN+ these days.

ozsat 19-09-2021 08:24

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
My subscription to Eurosport+ ends in June 2022 - just logged out and signing in with a different name it asked for a £4.99pm subscription. But no annual offering which was normally available for £19.99.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36093633)
Eurosport is now an integral part of Discovery+ And costs a few quid extra a month.

You can no longer purchase a sub to Eurosport Player


Legendkiller2k 19-09-2021 12:28

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36093681)
My subscription to Eurosport+ ends in June 2022 - just logged out and signing in with a different name it asked for a £4.99pm subscription. But no annual offering which was normally available for £19.99.

Yup there are 2 options now on discover+
The annual passes are £49.99 and £59.99.

RichardCoulter 19-09-2021 16:45

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36093633)
Eurosport is now an integral part of Discovery+ And costs a few quid extra a month.

You can no longer purchase a sub to Eurosport Player

Thanks. I think it's now becoming clear what their strategy is.

Media Boy UK 20-09-2021 12:43

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Ofcom wants BBC Three to get the following channels on Virgin Media:

Assumed EPG positions for BBC Three by nation

England: Virgin Channel 108.
Scotland: Virgin Channel 124.
Wales: Virgin Channel 124.
N. Ireland: Virgin Channel 108.

If so that mean we will see BBC Four listed before BBC Three on the Virgin EPG!!!!

Have Media Boy HQ work of what may happen to GOLD HD (On Channel 124 right now):

NOW:
124. GOLD HD
125. W
126. Alibi
127. Dave
128. Really

167. TLC HD
168. ID
169. Quest HD
170. Quest Red
171. DMAX
172. TLC +1
173. ID +1

213. Quest +1
214. DMAX +1

If Ofcom get their way:
124. Free Channel in England and N. Ireland
124. BBC Three HD (Scotland and Wales only)
125. GOLD HD
126. W
127. Alibi
128. Dave
129. YESTERDAY
130. Drama
131. Dave ja vu

167. TLC HD
168. ID
169. Quest HD
170. Quest Red
171. DMAX
172. Really
173. TLC +1

213. ID +1
214. Quest +1
215. DMAX +1

If Discovery axe all Linear channels by then:
124. Free Channel in England and N. Ireland
124. BBC Three HD (Scotland and Wales only)
125. GOLD HD
126. W
127. Alibi
128. Dave
129. YESTERDAY
130. Drama
131. Dave ja vu

ScottishSteve 20-09-2021 15:45

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36093784)
Ofcom wants BBC Three to get the following channels on Virgin Media:

I beat you to this one 4 days ago MB

Post 1490 on this thread.

Ofcom have stated that it may launch further up the EPG initially and within 18 months it would have to be moved.

It is defo unfair on the other broadcasters as in theory the BBC etc could launch as many channels as they want and they would take prominence over established privately owned broadcasters.

RichardCoulter 20-09-2021 16:03

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
So it looks like E4 won't have to move after all.

It would make more sense to give BBC3 107 and move BBC4 to 108.

Media Boy UK 20-09-2021 18:13

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36093814)
I beat you to this one 4 days ago MB

Post 1490 on this thread.

Ofcom have stated that it may launch further up the EPG initially and within 18 months it would have to be moved.

It is defo unfair on the other broadcasters as in theory the BBC etc could launch as many channels as they want and they would take prominence over established privately owned broadcasters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36093818)
So it looks like E4 won't have to move after all.

It would make more sense to give BBC3 107 and move BBC4 to 108.

So we will see BBC Four listed before BBC Three on the EPG. All we need to now is for ITV4 to come before ITV on the EPG.

Itshim 20-09-2021 18:35

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36093836)
So we will see BBC Four listed before BBC Three on the EPG. All we need to now is for ITV4 to come before ITV on the EPG.

I am the only person that could not care less were they are listed ?Tend to only ever look at favourite channels . Can't recall last time l watched BBC 4 and I am sure l have never looked at 3 :dozey:

OLD BOY 20-09-2021 18:50

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36093818)
So it looks like E4 won't have to move after all.

It would make more sense to give BBC3 107 and move BBC4 to 108.

Or maybe move BBC1 HD to channel 101 and scrap the standard definition version. This will be possible when the remaining BBC1 regions go HD in October.

That would leave channel 108 free.

RichardCoulter 20-09-2021 19:14

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36093842)
Or maybe move BBC1 HD to channel 101 and scrap the standard definition version. This will be possible when the remaining BBC1 regions go HD in October.

That would leave channel 108 free.

I think that's what will happen tbh.

cheekyangus 20-09-2021 20:01

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36093842)
Or maybe move BBC1 HD to channel 101 and scrap the standard definition version. This will be possible when the remaining BBC1 regions go HD in October.

That would leave channel 108 free.

Not in Scotland or Wales. 108 is BBC Scotland and Channel 4 respectively.

113 is empty in Scotland, I have no idea if it's empty in Wales on VM, though if it isn't it's probably the SD version of ITV.

ITVBe+1 moved for BBC Alba on VM in Scotland, so something like that is possible again in the short term.

Itshim 21-09-2021 18:40

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36093848)
Not in Scotland or Wales. 108 is BBC Scotland and Channel 4 respectively.

113 is empty in Scotland, I have no idea if it's empty in Wales on VM, though if it isn't it's probably the SD version of ITV.

ITVBe+1 moved for BBC Alba on VM in Scotland, so something like that is possible again in the short term.

And of cause 101in Wales is already BBC 1 hd

cheekyangus 21-09-2021 18:58

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36093942)
And of cause 101in Wales is already BBC 1 hd

All the Nations are HD already for BBC1 so I deliberately didn't mention it. Only English Regions not.

OLD BOY 21-09-2021 19:53

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
I was only referring to the English region.

Itshim 21-09-2021 22:13

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36093943)
All the Nations are HD already for BBC1 so I deliberately didn't mention it. Only English Regions not.

Sorry being stupid does England have a national BBC 1 ? As well as regional channels ? :confused:

ScottishSteve 21-09-2021 22:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36093954)
Sorry being stupid does England have a national BBC 1 ? As well as regional channels ? :confused:

The national BBC 1 is the HD service with no local opt outs, just a tune to BBC 1 SD notice when the local programs are on.

vincerooney 21-09-2021 23:57

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36093844)
I think that's what will happen tbh.

is this why regional news on bbc one HD doesnt occur?

I do like regional variations of channels in SD. Hope they dont go!

BenMcr 22-09-2021 08:29

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
I don't see why Virgin would carry them both. If / when the English regions go HD, then the SD versions would be dropped.

Customers with 360 boxes wouldn't see them even if they were still there anyway.

Media Boy UK 22-09-2021 12:30

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
TiVo home page has reveal that Virgin Media Showcase - Channel 100.

Is having an Virgin Media Club Re-wind night (Sep. 22nd) from 10pm to midnight.

---------- Post added at 12:30 ---------- Previous post was at 12:27 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36093966)
I don't see why Virgin would carry them both. If / when the English regions go HD, then the SD versions would be dropped.

Customers with 360 boxes wouldn't see them even if they were still there anyway.

Ok then - Why dont Virgin carry BBC Two Wales and BBC Two N. Ireland UK wide after all we get their BBC One Channels UK Wide???

Hugh 22-09-2021 12:35

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Because BBC1 is for the whole of the country, the others are for their localities?

(I thought the clue was in their names (Wales & NI)).

Media Boy UK 22-09-2021 12:48

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36093992)
Because BBC1 is for the whole of the country, the others are for their localities?

(I thought the clue was in their names (Wales & NI)).

Even $ky carry BBC Two Wales and BBC Two N. Ireland UK wide. But Virgin do not!

Virgin Media carry all UK Wide BBC Radio Channels I am not asking Virgin to carry the BBC English regional variations channels just BBC Two Wales and BBC Two N. Ireland.

Being from Scotland I do like some shows from Wales and N. Ireland.

cheekyangus 22-09-2021 13:35

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36093995)
Being from Scotland I do like some shows from Wales and N. Ireland.

I just use iPlayer in those circumstances, gets me everything from outside Scotland on the BBC that isn't on the EPG if I become aware of something that interests me.

Usually it's sport (e.g.golf or cycling), though there have been local documentaries on occasions.

BenMcr 22-09-2021 13:56

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36093995)
Even $ky carry BBC Two Wales and BBC Two N. Ireland UK wide. But Virgin do not!

That's just down to the fact they're on the satellite that has UK coverage though isn't it?

Virgin Media's distribution of channels works differently.

Media Boy UK 22-09-2021 14:24

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36094012)
That's just down to the fact they're on the satellite that has UK coverage though isn't it?

Are you telling me Virgin don't

Only two areas Virgin are missing as far as I know is Aberdeen and Border.

We get BBC One Wales and BBC One N. Ireland so why not their "sister" channels?

But Virgin carry BBC Scotland. BBC Alba and S4C UK wide.

ozsat 22-09-2021 14:43

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
VirginMedia carry BBC Two NI in HD in Northern Ireland - Sky do NOT.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36093995)
Even $ky carry BBC Two Wales and BBC Two N. Ireland UK wide. But Virgin do not!

Virgin Media carry all UK Wide BBC Radio Channels I am not asking Virgin to carry the BBC English regional variations channels just BBC Two Wales and BBC Two N. Ireland.

Being from Scotland I do like some shows from Wales and N. Ireland.


BenMcr 22-09-2021 15:15

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Pretty sure the 86x are there from years ago when you needed separate AD channels, rather than being there specifically for an alternate BBC region. With TiVo/V6 and 360 the AD option can be carried on the main EPG option.

The only exception to that is where you have 'close' where people may get the 'wrong' region through cable compared to Freeview.

RichardCoulter 22-09-2021 15:53

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36093966)
I don't see why Virgin would carry them both. If / when the English regions go HD, then the SD versions would be dropped.

Customers with 360 boxes wouldn't see them even if they were still there anyway.

We still get BBC2 SD as well as BBC2 HD, so hopefully we'll get the choice of both.

---------- Post added at 15:53 ---------- Previous post was at 15:51 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36093960)
is this why regional news on bbc one HD doesnt occur?

I do like regional variations of channels in SD. Hope they dont go!

It's because, as yet, all the regional BBC1's are in SD only. To enable viewers to watch non opt out programmes in HD, VM provide 108.

Media Boy UK 22-09-2021 16:06

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36094017)
Pretty sure the 86x are there from years ago when you needed separate AD channels, rather than being there specifically for an alternate BBC region. With TiVo/V6 and 360 the AD option can be carried on the main EPG option.

The only exception to that is where you have 'close' where people may get the 'wrong' region through cable compared to Freeview.

The AD Channels are on 85X

Virgin has also got the following:

861. BBC ONE London
862. BBC ONE Scotland
863. BBC ONE Northern Ireland
864. BBC ONE Wales
865. BBC TWO

Virgin can also easy add the following

866. BBC TWO Northern Ireland
867. BBC TWO Wales

---------- Post added at 16:03 ---------- Previous post was at 16:00 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36094020)
It's because, as yet, all the regional BBC1's are in SD only. To enable viewers to watch non opt out programmes in HD, VM provide 108.

Here in Scotland BBC One Scotland HD move on December 4th 2018 from Virgin Channel 108 to Virgin Channel 101.

But BBC One Scotland SD Channel can still be viewed on Virgin Channel 862.

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So from October 21st you may see (If BBC One HD English channels launch on that date):

Your local BBC One Channel on Channel 101 being an HD Channel.

And Channel 108 being axe to make room for Virgin to launch BBC Three HD from January 2022, like OFCOM wants.

Media Boy UK 22-09-2021 23:09

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Bizasia: ZEE confirms merger talks with Sony.

ZEE Entertainment Enterprises Limited (ZEEL) has confirmed merger talks with Sony Pictures Networks India (SPNI).

The combined entity with a topline valued at Rs. 14,000 based on FY21 results, will see Sony being the majority stakeholder with 52.93% in the merged entity. ZEE Shareholders will take the remaining 47.07% stake.

https://www.bizasialive.com/zee-conf...lks-with-sony/

RichardCoulter 23-09-2021 01:02

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36094083)
Bizasia: ZEE confirms merger talks with Sony.

ZEE Entertainment Enterprises Limited (ZEEL) has confirmed merger talks with Sony Pictures Networks India (SPNI).

The combined entity with a topline valued at Rs. 14,000 based on FY21 results, will see Sony being the majority stakeholder with 52.93% in the merged entity. ZEE Shareholders will take the remaining 47.07% stake.

https://www.bizasialive.com/zee-conf...lks-with-sony/

I remember when Zee started they decided to merge with the existing company 'TV Asia' as they decided that there wasn't enough market share for them both to survive on satellite.

Was TV Asia ever on cable?

Media Boy UK 23-09-2021 11:08

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36094092)
I remember when Zee started they decided to merge with the existing company 'TV Asia' as they decided that there wasn't enough market share for them both to survive on satellite.

Was TV Asia ever on cable?

In 1995 when my area got cable United Artists/Telewest has an Asian channel but I can confirmed it was not TV Asia.

That was only on Astra 1A/1B.

Channel 08 (Sky One) - 12midnight to 6am.*
Channel 26 (The Comedy Channel/Sky Movies Gold) - 6am to 4pm.*

*TV Asia move to channel 26 from 12midnight to 4pm sometime later when BSkyB added more hours to Sky One.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_Asia

cheekyangus 23-09-2021 12:19

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36093988)
TiVo home page has reveal that Virgin Media Showcase - Channel 100.

Is having an Virgin Media Club Re-wind night (Sep. 22nd) from 10pm to midnight.

I recorded this and have had it on in the background all morning (it's still on as I type) and it was certainly worth trying...though VM might not want to put on an event to promote their gigabit broadband, say "lag free" in the press release and then have noticeable syncing/lag between the London and Glasgow venues throughout. It's possible it was a retransmission problem and wasn't noticable in the two clubs, but I saw complaints about the streamed version of the transmission, so it wasn't just the version on Channel 100.

And just as I typed that part the picture froze and sound glitched off for the first time (about 1hr20 into Ch100 coverage). :D

I'm still enjoying it, but given the audio is the most important part they really should've prioritised that over the video.

The live event started at 7pm with other DJs so they had 3 hours to sort any tech problems before the headliners and the Ch100 coverage started at 10pm.

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Oh dear! The sound went entirely between 1hr38 and 1h51. And the picture is a little soft on its return.:erm: :(

The DJs carried on, so I'm guessing it was a retransmission problem rather than one that impeded them from collaborating in their Back 2 Back endeavour.

Still not a good look.

It was at the end of a New Order track...some may read something into that. :D

epsilon 23-09-2021 21:10

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36092456)
There were rumours a few months ago that TS25-30 would be wound down. Since then 29 & 30 are no longer being used and now 27 & 28 are being cleared. I would expect 25 & 26 to be next. No time scale was mentioned, so it could take a while.

Last night the Dummy services TS27 Dummy and TS28 Dummy were removed and frequency data was removed from TS27 & 28 across all networks. Some of the video slates were left in place but it isn't unusual for there to be a delay before these are removed. As a result C053 & C054 should disappear from digitalbitrate in the next few days as it catches up with the changes.

---------- Post added at 21:10 ---------- Previous post was at 20:44 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36092605)
New tests have been added on 1405 & 1406 on internal networks. 11 new duplicate services have been added to TS30 but not added to any networks. TS30 was taken out of general use some time ago and these new duplicates are probably some sort of internal test.

More information on the TS30 services. Last night they started testing on some of Virgin's private networks. As mentioned previously these are not new services but duplicates of existing TV services. Unlike the original services, these aren't marked as "digital television service" but as "reserved for future use", so not the normal TV services.

When the services were added, the combination of HD and SD channels and carriage of services with the duplicated content (such as various BBC One regions) indicated that this combination wasn't really suited to stat-muxing. That led to some speculation that this could be a trial of IP delivery of normal channels.

A new section appeared in the SDT last night, listing URL's for these new TS30 services All linking to m3u8 services. m3u8 is normally associated with MPEG-DASH services (Dynamic Adaptive Streaming over HTTP), so confirmation that the tests are for IP delivery of services to normal boxes.

These are not the same as Virgin's ongoing IPTV tests for broadband only customers.

(If Virgin eventually switches to this method of delivery rather than stat-muxing over DVB-C, these services will not be visible on sites such as digitalbitrate).

ScottishSteve 23-09-2021 21:20

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Do you think it is possible this is how they may deliver the ‘upcoming’ Sky Sports UHD service?

epsilon 23-09-2021 21:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36094208)
Do you think it is possible this is how they may deliver the ‘upcoming’ Sky Sports UHD service?

Maybe. I think what happens there will depend on what actually happens with UHD services on Sky, and that's not yet clear.

epsilon 24-09-2021 20:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36094198)
m3u8 is normally associated with MPEG-DASH services (Dynamic Adaptive Streaming over HTTP), so confirmation that the tests are for IP delivery of services to normal boxes.

Just a small update. I've been reminded that MPEG-DASH playlist files normally use the MPD file extension, with M3U8 more frequently used for HLS playlist files. No major difference to the end user, MPEG-DASH is an international standard, HLS (HTTP Live Streaming) is a proprietary standard designed by Apple. Both are streaming formats.

Chris James 25-09-2021 10:27

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Most BBC regions are going HD from Thursday 21 October.
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p09v556t/2021/10/20

cheekyangus 25-09-2021 13:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris James (Post 36094444)
Most BBC regions are going HD from Thursday 21 October.
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p09v556t/2021/10/20

This was spotted by a couple of Digital Spy users on 6th September and has been discussed on this forum's thread from 16th September.

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​I don't have the ability to test this on other TV platforms so I don't know if this is on other Connected TV services, but it has changed on my VM V6 box. I only noticed it just now.

The BBC Connected Red Button Bridge no longer has News and Sport menu options, just iPlayer and Featured.

The last change that occurred removed Weather and Lottery. I was expecting a change, but was actually expecting BBC Sounds menu option to be added, not News and Sport shortcuts to be removed from the menu bridge.

Media Boy UK 25-09-2021 14:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris James (Post 36094444)
Most BBC regions are going HD from Thursday 21 October.
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p09v556t/2021/10/20

BBC ALBA and BBC Parliament are also both going HD on that date*.

*That time of posting BBC ALBA HD and BBC Parliament HD are only confirm as launching on BBC iPlayer.

heavyside 25-09-2021 14:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris James (Post 36094444)
Most BBC regions are going HD from Thursday 21 October.
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p09v556t/2021/10/20

Isn't that the date that the 360 is (supposedly) getting the All4 app at long last? Is there something special about the 21st of October?

Media Boy UK 25-09-2021 14:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36094515)
Isn't that the date that the 360 is (supposedly) getting the All4 app at long last? Is there something special about the 21st of October?

MTV Play will be available on Virgin TV 360 from Thursday 21 October.

cheekyangus 25-09-2021 15:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36094515)
Isn't that the date that the 360 is (supposedly) getting the All4 app at long last? Is there something special about the 21st of October?

It seems to be the Goldilocks Zone this year, as late as you can launch something, communicate it to the public and yet enough time to fix any tech problems before the busy Christmas period where everything under the sun is competing for the public's attention.

Media Boy UK 26-09-2021 23:05

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On the BBC Web site

BBC Parliament schedule page for October 21st NOW have an link saying "View HD" when you press on it the schedule page appear for BBC Parliament HD

https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl73/2021/10/21

Also BBC ALBA schedule page for October 21st NOW have an link saying "View HD" when you press on it the schedule page appear for BBC ALBA HD

https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl67/2021/10/21

epsilon 27-09-2021 00:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36094728)
On the BBC Web site

BBC Parliament schedule page for October 21st NOW have an link saying "View HD" when you press on it the schedule page appear for BBC Parliament HD

https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl73/2021/10/21

Also BBC ALBA schedule page for October 21st NOW have an link saying "View HD" when you press on it the schedule page appear for BBC ALBA HD

https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl67/2021/10/21

I wonder if Millbank Studios are even equipped for HD.

vincerooney 27-09-2021 00:56

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are the regional BBC HD channels occuring this october was it confirmed?

epsilon 27-09-2021 01:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36094744)
are the regional BBC HD channels occuring this october was it confirmed?

Still no official announcement from the BBC as far as I know.

OLD BOY 27-09-2021 07:52

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It has been widely reported in local newspapers that all English regions will go HD on 21 October. This is one of them:



https://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/...hd-21-october/

Inactive Digital 27-09-2021 08:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36094754)
It has been widely reported in local newspapers that all English regions will go HD on 21 October. This is one of them:



https://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/...hd-21-october/

That article is a load of rubbish and shoddy journalism - they need to check the veracity of their sources if they are going to rely on Twitter as the basis of their articles. Local newspapers should stick to local stories and leave it for national newspapers like the Express, who are experts at getting stories such as this wrong.

1701-e 27-09-2021 09:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 36094755)
That article is a load of rubbish and shoddy journalism - they need to check the veracity of their sources if they are going to rely on Twitter as the basis of their articles. Local newspapers should stick to local stories and leave it for national newspapers like the Express, who are experts at getting stories such as this wrong.

Love this

heavyside 27-09-2021 10:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 36094755)
That article is a load of rubbish and shoddy journalism - they need to check the veracity of their sources if they are going to rely on Twitter as the basis of their articles. Local newspapers should stick to local stories and leave it for national newspapers like the Express, who are experts at getting stories such as this wrong.

I believe the info reported in the article was originally announced on the BBCs own website.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p09v556t/2021/10/20

Hugh 27-09-2021 12:49

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I think the <sarcasm> mode was on for that post…

Inactive Digital 27-09-2021 12:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36094772)
I believe the info reported in the article was originally announced on the BBCs own website.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p09v556t/2021/10/20

My issue is that the article claims that the BBC has made an announcement, but the tweet it's using as its source isn't an official BBC account - something that whoever wrote the article should have been able to spot.

This is how rumours become interpreted as facts. We still don't know the BBC's plans for certain.

OLD BOY 27-09-2021 14:21

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News of this was also reported on the broadband tv website, although it does not quote a specific source.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/

ozsat 27-09-2021 14:44

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It only seems to be on newspaper sites run by Newsquest.

They run our local newspaper and get almost all their news by lifting postings from other sites or using facebook and twitter postings.

If Newsquest say it is going to happen - they it is most likely not going to happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36094754)
It has been widely reported in local newspapers that all English regions will go HD on 21 October. This is one of them:



https://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/...hd-21-october/


OLD BOY 27-09-2021 15:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36094818)
It only seems to be on newspaper sites run by Newsquest.

They run our local newspaper and get almost all their news by lifting postings from other sites or using facebook and twitter postings.

If Newsquest say it is going to happen - they it is most likely not going to happen.

:D

epsilon 27-09-2021 20:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36094813)
News of this was also reported on the broadband tv website, although it does not quote a specific source.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/

It would appear that people are far more ready to listen to and believe Chinese whispers that they are to wait for announcement from the BBC about what it actually plans to do. ;)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36094772)
I believe the info reported in the article was originally announced on the BBCs own website.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p09v556t/2021/10/20

The problem being the BBC schedules pages don't give any indication of where the HD services will be carried. It could be limited to the BBC Boardroom or the DG's office (I'm guessing it will be more than that but who knows?). The additional HD services have been spotted on the schedules page and, in the absence of any announcements from the BBC, people have drawn their own conclusions and spread them across the internet as facts.

cheekyangus 27-09-2021 23:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36094876)
It would appear that people are far more ready to listen to and believe Chinese whispers that they are to wait for announcement from the BBC about what it actually plans to do. ;)

---------- Post added at 20:25 ---------- Previous post was at 20:19 ----------


The problem being the BBC schedules pages don't give any indication of where the HD services will be carried. It could be limited to the BBC Boardroom or the DG's office (I'm guessing it will be more than that but who knows?). The additional HD services have been spotted on the schedules page and, in the absence of any announcements from the BBC, people have drawn their own conclusions and spread them across the internet as facts.

The BBC Schedule pages have prior history of yielding indication of new services before they were even announced. I heard they had indicated the existence of the BBC Scotland channel before it was officially announced and had the launch date correct. I'm hazier on the other example, but I think the Schedule pages mentioned BBC radio station Cymru 2 before it was announced too, but in that case the date was out by a few weeks.

epsilon 28-09-2021 00:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36094928)
The BBC Schedule pages have prior history of yielding indication of new services before they were even announced. I heard they had indicated the existence of the BBC Scotland channel before it was officially announced and had the launch date correct. I'm hazier on the other example, but I think the Schedule pages mentioned BBC radio station Cymru 2 before it was announced too, but in that case the date was out by a few weeks.

Oh well, it that case the HD channels will automagically appear everywhere in October as predicted. :D

I'm wasn't saying it won't happen, simply that there hasn't been an announcement from the source to confirm that it will. Enhancements to iPlayer have been announced, these could simply be extra iPlayer steams. The Beeb have announced that BBC One English regions will eventually be in HD but with a completely different timescale.

cheekyangus 28-09-2021 10:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36094933)
Oh well, it that case the HD channels will automagically appear everywhere in October as predicted. :D

I'm wasn't saying it won't happen, simply that there hasn't been an announcement from the source to confirm that it will. Enhancements to iPlayer have been announced, these could simply be extra iPlayer steams. The Beeb have announced that BBC One English regions will eventually be in HD but with a completely different timescale.

:D:D:D

I agree with all that. I too will believe it when I see it. The initial posts I read speculated it could well be just iPlayer.

It's likely the other timescale of End Of 2022 is for DTT/Freeview and is for the completion of the whole thing, they are probably just starting with Satellite.

I'm going to continue to proceed like nothing's going to happen and then it'll be a nice surprise.:)

Inactive Digital 28-09-2021 10:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36094876)
It would appear that people are far more ready to listen to and believe Chinese whispers that they are to wait for announcement from the BBC about what it actually plans to do. ;)

---------- Post added at 20:25 ---------- Previous post was at 20:19 ----------


The problem being the BBC schedules pages don't give any indication of where the HD services will be carried. It could be limited to the BBC Boardroom or the DG's office (I'm guessing it will be more than that but who knows?). The additional HD services have been spotted on the schedules page and, in the absence of any announcements from the BBC, people have drawn their own conclusions and spread them across the internet as facts.

These are my sentiments exactly and it can end up with disappointed customers complaining that the "promised" services haven't arrived. I hope BBC One HD regions do appear next month but, until there's an official announcement from the BBC on where and when it'll happen, it seems some have jumped the gun.

Media Boy UK 28-09-2021 13:24

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Discovery+ is now available on Prime Video Channels in the UK.

It can be accessed by all UK Prime members via Prime Video for £4.99 per month for the Entertainment package and £6.99 per month for Entertainment and Sport.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2021...-amazon-in-uk/

ozsat 28-09-2021 13:41

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Looks like the free 7-day trial is not available with the sport option.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36095013)
Discovery+ is now available on Prime Video Channels in the UK.

It can be accessed by all UK Prime members via Prime Video for £4.99 per month for the Entertainment package and £6.99 per month for Entertainment and Sport.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2021...-amazon-in-uk/


epsilon 29-09-2021 21:08

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https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...22_465962.html

Quote:

The BBC has denied speculation that HD versions of the BBC One English regions could launch as early as next month.

It seems that the HD versions on the BBC schedules web pages are appearing as the result of a technical error. That's how rumours start folks!

locutus1974 29-09-2021 21:50

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Still no news re Disney+ App coming? Have the App on the firestick but its a bit laggy as its an older stick, cant get the app on the smart TV as it says its not compatible so getting it through the Virgin box would be better for me so I dont have to go and get a new firestick lol

cheekyangus 29-09-2021 23:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36095185)
https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...22_465962.html

It seems that the HD versions on the BBC schedules web pages are appearing as the result of a technical error. That's how rumours start folks!

:D

It did seem too sudden.

Media Boy UK 03-10-2021 16:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36095185)
https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...22_465962.html




It seems that the HD versions on the BBC schedules web pages are appearing as the result of a technical error. That's how rumours start folks!

The "technical error" is still online

BBC ONE Cambridgeshire HD

https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p09v555w/2021/10/21

epsilon 04-10-2021 00:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36095693)
The "technical error" is still online

BBC ONE Cambridgeshire HD

https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p09v555w/2021/10/21

Some errors aren't easily corrected, as the fallout from the incident at Red Bee Media demonstrates.

Someone posted on DS that the error on the schedules page will be corrected later in the month. All very odd but perhaps the BBC don't see correcting rumours as a priority, they have already announced a rough launch date as by the end of next year.

Media Boy UK 04-10-2021 12:44

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TiVo says that Baby TV and all ViacomCBS and Turner kids channels are having an free to view period this month.

Who having an free to view period this month?

703. Baby TV
704. Cartoon Network
705. Cartoon Network +1
706. Cartoonito
712. Nickelodeon
713. Nick +1
714. Nick HD
715. Nick Junior
716. Nick Jr Too
717. Nicktoons
730. Boomerang
731. Boomerang +1
732. Cartoon Network HD

Rob King 04-10-2021 14:09

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Yes I have baby tv all other channels I subscribed too

RichardCoulter 04-10-2021 20:31

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I don't have Baby TV???

What's the message on Nickelodeon about?

Media Boy UK 04-10-2021 23:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36095829)
I don't have Baby TV???

What's the message on Nickelodeon about?

I do not know why Baby TV is not on your TV Set right now.

But all the channels listed in my early post today has been part of the "Kids Pack" since April 2019 at the cost of £5 per month*.

Also Sony SAB, Colors, Colors Rishtey and Colors Cineplex has joined an "Asian Mela" pack since April 2019 for any Virgin Media Customers who sign an new 18 month contract.

*To all new Virgin Media Customers and also any Virgin Media Customers who sign an new 18 month contract and say no to the Kids Pack.

heavyside 05-10-2021 07:14

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My 360 boxes have had a software update overnight here in London. Now showing version 4.35. I could not see anything new after the briefest of glances and the text on the panel is as uninformative as usual although I fancy it seems a little faster to respond. I will explore further this evening when I have more time.

cheekyangus 05-10-2021 09:53

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36095887)
My 360 boxes have had a software update overnight here in London. Now showing version 4.35. I could not see anything new after the briefest of glances and the text on the panel is as uninformative as usual although I fancy it seems a little faster to respond. I will explore further this evening when I have more time.

:zzz: I need my coffee, my immediate reaction was "I didn't think Microsoft were still updating that Xbox console".

Virgin Media really shouldn't have used such a similar brand name to a globally popular entertainment device for their new TV service.

Thanks for the information heavyside.

OLD BOY 05-10-2021 10:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36095887)
My 360 boxes have had a software update overnight here in London. Now showing version 4.35. I could not see anything new after the briefest of glances and the text on the panel is as uninformative as usual although I fancy it seems a little faster to respond. I will explore further this evening when I have more time.

My 360 has been displaying the wrong content against the selected default profile on some occasions. I hope they've fixed that, it was confusing my wife considerably!

Legendkiller2k 05-10-2021 10:37

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36095901)
:zzz: I need my coffee, my immediate reaction was "I didn't think Microsoft were still updating that Xbox console".

Virgin Media really shouldn't have used such a similar brand name to a globally popular entertainment device for their new TV service.

Thanks for the information heavyside.

Tbh i'm surprised MS haven't tried to sue, as stupid as it sounds it's something big companies would do these days.

RobboEdin 05-10-2021 10:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36095913)
Tbh i'm surprised MS haven't tried to sue, as stupid as it sounds it's something big companies would do these days.

Unlikely.
It’s Xbox 360.
It’s TV 360.
Anyone remember the IBM 360?
You can’t sue on 360.
Who did decide there is 360 degrees in a circle anyway and why?

Legendkiller2k 05-10-2021 15:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 36095915)
Unlikely.
It’s Xbox 360.
It’s TV 360.
Anyone remember the IBM 360?
You can’t sue on 360.
Who did decide there is 360 degrees in a circle anyway and why?

Woosh.

spiderplant 05-10-2021 17:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 36095915)
Unlikely.
It’s Xbox 360.
It’s TV 360.
Anyone remember the IBM 360?
You can’t sue on 360.

A quick search on the IPO website says there are 647 technology-related trademarks that include "360".

Even Sky have got one:
https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tm.../UK00914525885
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 36095915)
Who did decide there is 360 degrees in a circle anyway and why?

Nobody knows.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degree_(angle)

cheekyangus 05-10-2021 17:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36095913)
Tbh i'm surprised MS haven't tried to sue, as stupid as it sounds it's something big companies would do these days.

It was said MS renamed their cloud service from SkyDrive to OneDrive because a certain satellite broadcaster complained it was confusing to their broadband customers.
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 36095915)
Unlikely.
It’s Xbox 360.
It’s TV 360.
Anyone remember the IBM 360?
You can’t sue on 360.
Who did decide there is 360 degrees in a circle anyway and why?

I agree with your point, however as big gamer I can say in my experience a large proportion of gamers, even those who didn't own one, often referred to it simply as 360, especially when writing about it on forums and social media.
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36095972)
A quick search on the IPO website says there are 647 technology-related trademarks that include "360".

Even Sky have got one:
https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tm.../UK00914525885

I'm not surprised.

joglynne 05-10-2021 17:30

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Off topic I know but couldn't resist a google.

wikipedia may not have an explanation but the following link gives a few which kind of make sense .... though the first hypothesis seem the most probable of those put forward. Well in truth it's the one I could understand. << insert embarrassed sigh here>> :D

https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-scie...-like-100.html


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