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Only because he's lost, Rupert will put up with pretty much anything other than losing

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Trump legal advisor questions election integrity as Democrats coronate Biden 'King of America'


https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6209861061001

Ms Ellis said while “the law says that both Republican and Democrat operatives can observe the ballot count to preserve transparency and election integrity” there were cases in which Republicans were not given access to observe the process.

“What we’re seeing on the ground here now in at least seven states is there has been unlawful activity… votes that are counted by non-residents by dead people".

Additionally, she claimed Dominion Voting Systems, used to count the ballots, have altered the results in up to 28 states.

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Sorry papa it's not an issue anymore. Trump lost overall.

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Papa is obviously still in denial...

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Trump team member repeats the same baseless claims her boss has been making for the last 10 days. Hold the front page ... :dozey:

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Irrelevant, this is about election integrity.

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Which is itself an irrelevant point, unless there’s evidence to challenge that integrity. Which there isn’t.

Come on, you’re cleverer than this. Team Trump is waging a PR war, not a legal war. They’re repeating these baseless claims because they rile up the base, generate donations and stroke the Donald’s pathologically distorted ego. Few of these claims will ever be tested in court. Those that have been, have been thrown out. A couple of minor wins represent the usual small and ultimately insignificant problems that plague all big elections.

There has been no systemic vote rigging, there has been no widespread computer failure. Biden won the popular vote and the college in an election that was free and fair.

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Would that be the court case where the docket said there had been no Republican observers, but when the Republican lawyer was questioned by the judge, he admitted there had been a nonzero number of Republican observers present?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fact-ch...poll-watchers/ btw, I heard thousands turned up for the MillionMAGA march...

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:tu:

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I think we've all realised that Papa must've parked his boat under the nearest bridge and is living a trolls life, was slightly amusing for a while now it's just boringly repetative.

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Papa's boat is moored in a marina near the town of stalham, i live in Cleethorpes not under a bridge.

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Metaphor

Hope this helps... :)

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...rump-influence

worth a read.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...onference.html

;)

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Finally!
https://news.sky.com/story/us-electi...-time-12133168

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Strange how all those Republican states with Republican Governors & Republican Attorney Generals rigged the election against a Republican President.

Really strange, but I’m sure we’ll probably see the overwhelming evidence very soon, as the stuff they presented so far to the courts was just to lull the Democratic Party and the Fake News lamestream media into a false sense of security.

Overwhelming evidence - any minute now...

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I get my popcorn and a coke. This could be a long wait.

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I really have to stop dipping into Trump’s Twitter feed. It’s like stumbling into a freaky parallel universe.

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Absolutely hilarious results when an anti-Trumpist tries to steal a flag from a Trump supporter.

LINKY

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Must be a dumbocrat;)

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I came across this last week, it did make me laugh.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...chmentid=28685

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By the way it seems Biden still isn't receiving security briefings and the agency that is asked with helping transition by providing funds and connecting the incoming team with relevant organisations is refusing to do so.

It's one thing letting things play out in courts and leaving Trump to his Twitter feed but it's another to actually not let the transition period take place.

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It's sabotage at a time when the country needs to pull together.

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The wheels of American democracy move extremely slowly,i believe there is the small matter of a few disputes playing out.

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Re Security Briefings - VP-Elect Harris is on the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee & the Select Committee on Intelligence, and already receives the briefings... ;)

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On that note...

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...have-pressured

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Will VP nominee Harris have clearance to divulge information to presidential candidate Biden.

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You surely mean Vice President Elect Harris, and President Elect Biden.

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Wasn't aware the election had been officially declared.

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Finally they've found some election skullduggery, I'm sure donny and his base will want this investigated fully

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No President Elect Harris and former president Biden.

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That can't be right! Crooked Republicans?

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They have not been officially certified as such. Electoral College electors doesn’t meet until December and then the final official certification happens in January by Congress and Vice President Pence.

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So Fox News were wrong when they said this in November 2016?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...election-upset

And our own government

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/p...-november-2016



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Oh and Donald Trump on 21st November 2016

https://www.c-span.org/video/?418955...-lays-100-days

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We've usually use President-Elect after someone is the assumed winner of the election. Obama and Trump were both called President Elect after the projections from the news networks.

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But it’s not official, it was not official in 2016, so yes Fox News was wrong, if me saying that floats your boat, BenMcr.

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But it's never really official is it? There is no official constitutional role of President-Elect IIRC.

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Correct. There is no “Office of President-Elect”.

Here’s another thing, Joe Biden is not yet authorised to see Classified intelligence. Kamala Harris, is through Senate intelligence committee, because she is still a sitting Senator, Joe Biden kinda potentially threw her under the bus yesterday, by saying it was a good thing Kamala still gets intelligence briefings through her Senate office, she is legally not allowed to share this classified intel with him.

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https://www.wrn.com/2020/11/plaintif...nsin-counties/

https://www.wrn.com/2020/11/plaintif...nsin-counties/

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The term is in the constitution:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenti...s_Constitution
But it doesn't define when someone becomes President-elect. That's seems to be separate via this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presid..._United_States
But it does seem to be unofficial until the GSA completes their action.

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https://www.newsbreak.com/news/21043...raq?s=web_push

Trump orders Pentagon to pull 2,500 troops from Afghanistan and Iraq


President Trump has ordered the Pentagon to pull 2,500 U.S. troops from Afghanistan and Iraq by mid-January, acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller announced Tuesday. The Defense Department will cut the number of troops in Afghanistan from 4,500 to 2,500 and the number of forces in Iraq from 3,000 to 2,500 by Jan. 15, days before Trump is set to leave office.

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Great, now he’s throwing a geopolitical rattle out of his pram.

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No different to Obama leaving office in 2017, Chris when he rattled Russia with sanctions, just when Trump was entering office.

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I don't put it past him to push the big red button then retire to his bunker....

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Let's hope he and the bomb are in the bunker when it goes off.:D

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While the ultimate authority lies with the president to authorise a nuclear strike, he cannot start and declare a war without congressional approval, the only time he can, is in a emergency situation, when the U.S is being attacked itself or it's territories.

Congress has declared war 11 times, including its first declaration of war with us truly, Great Britain in 1812.

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Nobody in the U.K wind up Trump before January ok? Happy faces.

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The Trump Campaign loses another case in Pennsylvania. This time about how far from the count their observers were.

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While Mr.K is often just trolling, I really think he was simply joking. I smiled. :)

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https://www.inquirer.com/news/trump-...-20201117.html

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It's also worth noting that the two dissenters did so on the grounds they didn't think it was an issue they should be dealing with anyway and that they certainly shouldn't be throwing out voters either.

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Chuck Grassley, the 87 year old President Pro Tempore of the Senate (3rd in line of succession to the Presidency) has COVID.

Not good.

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BREAKING: Second Georgia County finds uncounted votes in its recount, yesterday, uncounted votes were found on a memory card. Most of the uncounted votes were for Trump, lowering Biden’s State wide tally now only 12,900+ ahead.

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I wish they’d get a move on SkyBet are still not paying out on Georgia.

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Trump has fired the head of the Cyber Security agenda after he said there was no evidence of widespread fraud.

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Trump says he's been 'terminated'. Seems rather harsh...

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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...ication-437181

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If anyone says the election went smoothly, needs a psychological assessment. There is no excuse for what’s happening, batches of votes being found and not counted, now in 3 counties in Georgia. Forget that this is Trump for a minute, the U.S is suppose to be top notch at elections, but this years has been a farce. Delayed counts-Problem after problem.

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Given the size of the US electorate, the short-staffing due to covid and the unprecedented number of postal ballots it's not gone badly at all, although as all of these complications were entirely foreseeable they could probably have done better.

We shouldn't conflate the concept of how smoothly it went, with the question of whether it was fraudulent. The cybersecurity dude got sacked for saying it wasn't fraudulent - which as we are now discovering in courtroom after courtroom, it wasn't.

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It is a case of firing the messenger.

A really terrible thing to do. I can't see that the head of Cyber Security could have said anything else if there was no widespread fraud.

It won't encourage the best people in the country to take up such positions if they're going to be fired at will.

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Donald Trump is a narcissist and is accustomed to surrounding himself with people who tell him what he wants to hear. The idea of public servants doing their job without fear or favour is clearly problematic for him.

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87 Do these people ever retire:shocked:

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We all think America is land of the free, democratic and egalitarian, but the reality is it is as susceptible to cronyism, sinecures for rich old white men and political dynasties as anywhere.

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It's a country of 180 million voters or whatever the final turnout will be. A few issues with a few thousand votes is not evidence of fraud and is not especially unusual. That's why when the margin is narrow there are recounts, recounts which found the issues you're talking about. It happens. It happened in 2016 too: https://eu.desmoinesregister.com/sto...tion/97665238/ This stuff is eventually caught in the audit process but the margins are rarely thin enough to matter. Only in 2000 has it proved an issue.

I imagine if we did a recount of the last General Election the vote totals should change by a small margin each time you counted as well. It's just an imperfect process.

Even with the narrow margins involved those extra votes are not even close to being a threat to Biden's lead.

And again Trump has a well funded legal team that is losing case after case when they actually try to produce evidence of fraud. That's the problem the Trump campaign has with this 'let the courts decide' approach, in court, you have to prove it.

I think the US needs to revisit its voting system though. They shouldn't use computers as people will never have as much faith in them as they will pen and paper, they should have the same procedures in each state and they should allow the counting of ballots before Election Day.

They were never top-notch in elections though. They make everything too complicated and partisan.

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There's no way to enforce a uniform voting system in that way though - State control of elections is IIRC explicitly provided for in the constitution.

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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...sconsin-437662 https://apnews.com/article/trump-wis...3102c4f97599c1

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Allegheny, Pennsylvania - Judge sides with PA Board of Electors to allow Mail-in votes with no voter-supplied dates to be counted (they were date stamped when they arrived before the election date).

This is the case - https://www.wesa.fm/post/allegheny-c...unted#stream/0

This is the outcome.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1605722741

Of the 28 cases put before the Courts by Republicans so far, 27 have been lost, 1 won (and that was moot).

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'It would be a brave person to bet against Donald Trump': Jones


Mr Jones said he suspects the Trump team is in the process of gathering “irrefutable evidence of criminal collusion” in the fallout of the US election.

He said under an Executive Order of 2018, signed by President Trump, the government has the power to arrest and seize the assets of any organisation or individual who attempted to alter the result of the 2020 election

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6210572679001

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:rofl:

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Lindsey Graham going to be arrested then?

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/16/p...ntv/index.html

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The Office appears to officially exist though.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1605725092

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1605725092

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:rofl:

btw, the Executive Order refers to "Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election" - not "any organisation or individual", only organisations or individuals from outside the USA...

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1724717.html
Oh dear, what a pity, never mind :D

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" outgoing president’s unsubstantiated claims about the vulnerability of mail-in voting likely suppressed about 24,500 Republicans from casting their ballots."
That's hilarious. Never has the rule of unintended consequences been clearer!

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The Wisconsin election board is trying to change the recount laws


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_MT...S4HwwfZr24%3A6

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Blergh, now I've got Donny's Youtube channel in my watch history :sick:

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Nearly right... ;)

https://apnews.com/article/trump-wis...3102c4f97599c1

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Fake news.

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How are you allowed to have partisan election chairs? It's ridiculous. Imagine if we elected Labour or Conservative politicians to run the election systems in different constituencies.

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Speaking of which...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/18/u...ter-fraud.html Like you, they keeping making claims with no evidence to back them up, hoping that if they throw enough stuff at the wall, the gullible will believe some of it is true, even without factual evidence to back it up.

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:rofl::rofl:

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Well if they have politically appointed judges, anything goes...

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Another lawsuit lost by the Republicans - that makes it 1-30.

https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-c...014553-005.pdf Dismissed with prejudice meaning they can't bring the same case up again, and also that the State can file to recover attorneys fees from the Republicans.

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They're moving away from legal cases it seems now. Trump is meeting with Michigan lawmakers at the White House tomorrow presumably to get them to vote for different electors.....

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The Four Seasons Landscape Gardening press announcement has been commerated in music :D

Rudy Giuliani & The Four Seasons - Oh, What a Site

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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...e-works-437749 https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,...7662--,00.html

From the Michigan Secretary of State Most states distribute their Electoral College votes in the same "winner takes all" fashion as Michigan. However two states, Maine and Nebraska, apportion their electoral votes by congressional district.

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We're following this order it appears. ;)

https://twitter.com/Scaramucci/statu...276484/photo/1

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Georgia Confirms Joe Biden victory after the state conducted a recount.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/19/p...lts/index.html

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Doubtless some more Republucan officials are going to be 'terminated'. They're not playing the game...

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Certification is today I think so Trump needs to do something if he wants to stop it. He needs Georgia in this plan to flip everything back.

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It's 2024 or nothing for Trump now.

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Or his golf courses, or his multi millions, or jail....

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No! No US President has been prosecuted ever. One was arrested for drink horse buggy driving but not charged.

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It was a recount in Georgia, not full audit. Audit will include signature checking, this is what Trump wants there and in other States.

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Trump isn't going to be prosecuted unless it's a state-level I don't think. Biden has already said he'll have nothing to do with the DOJ and there have also been rumours/leaks that he doesn't want Trump to be prosecuted for anything as it'll only further create resentment and division.

There is nothing he can do about state level charges though.

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I thought this wasn't possible as after the signatures are checked against the envelope they've mailed in the envelope is disregarded so a ballot cannot be linked back to a voter?

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Happy birthday to sleepy Joe Biden 78 TODAY .

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He got a great birthday present from Georgia... :)

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That’s why they’re pushing for it - because it can’t be done, they can be outraged and scream "fraud"...

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shuffle board set/ hearing aids / Zimmer frame/beige pants and jacket combo??

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1605869992

You can see the ”Depends"... ;)

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l hope you have sent him a nice card given you seem to be a great fan of President elect Joe Biden.;)

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I read that as BIG pants..

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As an impartial observer i could not in good conscience show favour to either candidate for the office of president of the USA.