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jfman 30-11-2020 23:55

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36060054)
- faster broadband
- room for new channels
- smaller recordings on your hard drive

Is that enough?

Does the improved encoding remove the need for/slow down the pace of upgrades of the downstream up to 1Ghz from 750/860mhz. I had read LG annual reports that spoke of this across their range of networks in Europe and wondered where it say on Virgin's route map (if at all). This was a few years back though.

Thanks.

cheekyangus 30-11-2020 23:56

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If Sky Nature doesn't move onto additional TV Tiers some of us enjoying the HD version of LoveNature currently will be missing out entirely.

ScottishSteve 01-12-2020 00:03

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36060433)
If Sky Nature doesn't move onto additional TV Tiers some of us enjoying the HD version of LoveNature currently will be missing out entirely.

I think the quality of the content on Love Nature has been excellent but I was always put off by the large graphics telling you what’s on overlayed during the entire programme.

spiderplant 01-12-2020 11:37

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36060432)
Does the improved encoding remove the need for/slow down the pace of upgrades of the downstream up to 1Ghz from 750/860mhz.

I don't know.

nomadking 01-12-2020 12:09

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36060430)
Love Nature now has an info banner saying

“This channel is closing. Sky Nature will be the home of all your favourite Love Nature programmes from 4th December”

Looks like there will be no Love Nature UHD apart from the few documentaries on Virgin UHD

Are you sure about that?
There's a trailer for "A Wild Year on Earth" on VM UHD, currently showing on SKY Nature, saying it's going to be on VM UHD from 21st Dec.
Seems it's later UHD programming that is changing with Films being shown, eg The Big Lebowski, Psycho(original 1960 version).

jfman 01-12-2020 12:21

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36060470)
I don't know.

Thanks for reply. :)

ScottishSteve 01-12-2020 14:11

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36060475)
Are you sure about that?
There's a trailer for "A Wild Year on Earth" on VM UHD, currently showing on SKY Nature, saying it's going to be on VM UHD from 21st Dec.
Seems it's later UHD programming that is changing with Films being shown, eg The Big Lebowski, Psycho(original 1960 version).

That’s what the pop up says.

Posts on here have said it could be possible Love Nature were ready to launch a UHD version on Virgin but that’s looking unlikely.

As stated in the original launch press release for Sky Nature it would be the only place to see Love Nature content in the UK.

The Virgin UHD channel seems to have kept some of the stuff.

nomadking 01-12-2020 14:37

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Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36060503)
That’s what the pop up says.

Posts on here have said it could be possible Love Nature were ready to launch a UHD version on Virgin but that’s looking unlikely.

As stated in the original launch press release for Sky Nature it would be the only place to see Love Nature content in the UK.

The Virgin UHD channel seems to have kept some of the stuff.

If Sky have acquired the Love Nature content, then it's likely they inherited the contract to supply VM UHD with that content.
If anything, looking at the EPG, there is more of that type of content later on in the evening(after 10pm).
Might be more difficult for VM to find other pre-watershed content in UHD.

cheekyangus 02-12-2020 08:53

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HUM EUROPE (Channel 833) has closed on VM. There wasn't much notice by the looks of it. Their Facebook page announced it on 30th November. Also says it's continuing on Sky. (It's apparently Free-To-Air. )

cheekyangus 03-12-2020 10:05

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According to JJ20X on Forum Box the mysterious SD Channel A and Channel B have revealed themselves to be

Sky Documentaries SD Ch 278
Sky Nature SD Ch 280

It looks like the plan was to launch them once the Love Nature contract expired. So lower tier TV customers are losing an HD channel and gaining two SD channels.

I think it's fairly likely (logical) these will launch tomorrow when Love Nature closes on VM.

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Note: The above tier related comments are my guesses, JJ20X's post doesn't contain this information, as you'll see once you read it.

Rob King 03-12-2020 22:38

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Sky nature showing on channel 279 now

ScottishSteve 03-12-2020 23:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob King (Post 36060859)
Sky nature showing on channel 279 now

Do you mean on a lower package than it was?

It has been there since it launched.

vincerooney 04-12-2020 01:00

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36060769)
According to JJ20X on Forum Box the mysterious SD Channel A and Channel B have revealed themselves to be

Sky Documentaries SD Ch 278
Sky Nature SD Ch 280

It looks like the plan was to launch them once the Love Nature contract expired. So lower tier TV customers are losing an HD channel and gaining two SD channels.

I think it's fairly likely (logical) these will launch tomorrow when Love Nature closes on VM.

---------- Post added at 10:05 ---------- Previous post was at 09:50 ----------

Note: The above tier related comments are my guesses, JJ20X's post doesn't contain this information, as you'll see once you read it.

Hang on didnt we already have those channels?

cheekyangus 04-12-2020 08:47

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36060875)
Hang on didnt we already have those channels?

No. Just the HD versions and only for those on the highest TV tiers.

JJ20X on Forum Box has posted this morning that the pack codes for the lower tiers have now been added to these two SD versions.

As I type neither is showing on my box though.

I do have the rather classy LoveNature closure slate which only mentions the HD channel number for Sky Nature and the on-demand.

Media Boy UK 04-12-2020 18:33

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Wikipedia: Discovery to rebrand some channels in 2021.

Wikipedia is reporting that Discovery are set to rebrand some Discovery own channels next year:

Really will become Discovery Really
TLC HD & +1 will become Discovery TLC HD & +1
Quest HD & +1 will become Discovery Quest HD & +1
Quest Red SD & +1 will become Discovery Quest Red SD & +1
Food Network SD & +1 will become Discovery Food Network SD & +1
HGTV SD & +1 will become Discovery HGTV SD & +1

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36060890)
No. Just the HD versions and only for those on the highest TV tiers.

JJ20X on Forum Box has posted this morning that the pack codes for the lower tiers have now been added to these two SD versions.

As I type neither is showing on my box though.

I do have the rather classy LoveNature closure slate which only mentions the HD channel number for Sky Nature and the on-demand.

Look like VOD transport streams has been updated (In my area anyway) Ex Telewest Uddingston.

On Demand and Catch Up was down from 1am to 11.30am yesterday.

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Ofcom says Baby TV (Channel 703) is broadcasting with NO license.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/manage-your...cences/updates

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36060769)
According to JJ20X on Forum Box the mysterious SD Channel A and Channel B have revealed themselves to be

Sky Documentaries SD Ch 278
Sky Nature SD Ch 280

I think they will launch on Virgin Media UK next week (December 8th or December 10th).

cheekyangus 04-12-2020 18:38

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36060954)
Wikipedia: Discovery to rebrand some channels in 2021.

Wikipedia is reporting that Discovery are set to rebrand some Discovery own channels next year:

Really will become Discovery Really
TLC HD & +1 will become Discovery TLC HD & +1
Quest HD & +1 will become Discovery Quest HD & +1
Quest Red SD & +1 will become Discovery Quest Red SD & +1
Food Network SD & +1 will become Discovery Food Network SD & +1
HGTV SD & +1 will become Discovery HGTV SD & +1[COLOR="Silver"]

*Shudder*

I'd bet they are temporary transitionary names for a few of them as they either sound stupid or are too long. For example, I can see one becoming Discovery Red and another Discovery Food eventually.

I'd imagine they won't use the name in text on EPGs as Discovery on its own takes most of the allowed characters for the channel names.

Thanks for the heads-up Media Boy.

fox35 04-12-2020 18:46

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36060954)
Wikipedia: Discovery to rebrand some channels in 2021.

Wikipedia is reporting that Discovery are set to rebrand some Discovery own channels next year:

Really will become Discovery Really
TLC HD & +1 will become Discovery TLC HD & +1
Quest HD & +1 will become Discovery Quest HD & +1
Quest Red SD & +1 will become Discovery Quest Red SD & +1
Food Network SD & +1 will become Discovery Food Network SD & +1
HGTV SD & +1 will become Discovery HGTV SD & +1[COLOR="Silver"]

Didn't all the Discovery owned channels used to have the "Discovery" prefix back in the early days when Sky Digital first launched and as late as the mid 2010s? I'm sure I recall referring to the Documentaries section within the EPG as just the "Discovery Channels" generically.

cheekyangus 04-12-2020 18:52

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Originally Posted by fox35 (Post 36060968)
Didn't all the Discovery owned channels used to have the "Discovery" prefix back in the early days when Sky Digital first launched and as late as the mid 2010s? I'm sure I recall referring to the Documentaries section within the EPG as just the "Discovery Channels".

Quest and Quest Red are relatively new brands created for Free To Air (as far as I know), many of the other channels were bought from other broadcasters, e.g. BBC or when they bought other TV companies e.g. Scripps. It's not as if they actively removed their name from channels.

Media Boy UK 04-12-2020 19:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36060969)
Quest and Quest Red are relatively new brands created for Free To Air (as far as I know), many of the other channels were bought from other broadcasters, e.g. BBC or when they bought other TV companies e.g. Scripps. It's not as if they actively removed their name from channels.

-Home and Really* was given to Discovery when the BBC wanted to own UKTV outright.
-Discovery took over Scripps to own Food Network*.
-You are right about Quest brand being created for Freeview slots.

Discovery only rebrand Home to HGTV on January 21st 2020.

Have you seen they did not say anything about DMAX being rebrand called Discovery MAX.

*Discovery was also given Good Food (Shows now on Food Network).
**Discovery has axe Travel Channel (Shows now on Discovery Channel and DMAX) since takeover.

fox35 04-12-2020 20:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36060969)
Quest and Quest Red are relatively new brands created for Free To Air (as far as I know), many of the other channels were bought from other broadcasters, e.g. BBC or when they bought other TV companies e.g. Scripps. It's not as if they actively removed their name from channels.

Thats correct, but I was referring to a bunch of channels from the digital tv launch era (1998-2002) that were owned by and used the prefix "Discovery...." whilst trying to highlight it is not the first time Discovery had done this. Some have lasted and dropped the prefix, whilst some have morphed into different entities...
Discovery Channel
Discovery Travel and Adventure
Discovery Civilizations
Discovery Sci-Trek
Discovery Animal Planet
Discovery Investigation
Discovery Kids
and their +1 variants.
May have been more, but my mind escapes me.

Media Boy UK 04-12-2020 21:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fox35 (Post 36060985)
Thats correct, but I was referring to a bunch of channels from the digital tv launch era (1998-2002) that were owned by and used the prefix "Discovery...." whilst trying to highlight it is not the first time Discovery had done this. Some have lasted and dropped the prefix, whilst some have morphed into different entities...
Discovery Channel
Discovery Travel and Adventure
Discovery Civilizations
Discovery Sci-Trek
Discovery Animal Planet
Discovery Investigation
Discovery Kids
and their +1 variants.
May have been more, but my mind escapes me.

You forgot -

Discovery Wings
Discovery Real Time
Discovery Real Time Extra
Discovery Travel & Living

cheekyangus 04-12-2020 22:22

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fox35 (Post 36060985)
Thats correct, but I was referring to a bunch of channels from the digital tv launch era (1998-2002) that were owned by and used the prefix "Discovery...." whilst trying to highlight it is not the first time Discovery had done this. Some have lasted and dropped the prefix, whilst some have morphed into different entities...
Discovery Channel
Discovery Travel and Adventure
Discovery Civilizations
Discovery Sci-Trek
Discovery Animal Planet
Discovery Investigation
Discovery Kids
and their +1 variants.
May have been more, but my mind escapes me.

I'm well aware of those, I remember them. Those I mentioned have different circumstances. The majority, for example, are Free-To-Air and the the reason FTA channels often don't share their parent's branding is their parent wants to keep it for their premium (Pay) products. The old legacy channels were from a time when Discovery didn't do FTA and positioned themselves as a provider of premium TV. FTA is relatively a new market for them.

vincerooney 07-12-2020 00:13

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These are some of the stupidest names! the channel "really" i didnt even know it was owned by discovery. What does it even tell me what the channel shows? Really? Really...?

cheekyangus 07-12-2020 00:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36061227)
These are some of the stupidest names! the channel "really" i didnt even know it was owned by discovery. What does it even tell me what the channel shows? Really? Really...?

I believe it's something along the lines of what TLC, ITV Be, Quest Red, Lifetime and E! show. And you can blame the same people who came up with Dave and Yesterday. It used to be a UKTV channel.

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And I haven't told you anything you didn't already know, I think, having just read it back.

1andrew1 07-12-2020 00:36

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36061227)
These are some of the stupidest names! the channel "really" i didnt even know it was owned by discovery. What does it even tell me what the channel shows? Really? Really...?

It really happened = reality channel.

I'm ok with the name.

Legendkiller2k 07-12-2020 02:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36061227)
These are some of the stupidest names! the channel "really" i didnt even know it was owned by discovery. What does it even tell me what the channel shows? Really? Really...?

What does Vincerooney tell me? you like Vince Mcmahon and Wayne Rooney?
I'm just joking with you mate i agree some channel names are plain daft but Really just symbolises reality.
Could be worse they could have gone with the original planned name reallyrealtv.

Aguero9320 07-12-2020 14:51

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Sky have confirmed that Sky Cinema Disney (ch. 407) is renaming to Five Star Movies on New Year's Eve, before shutting permanently on 6th January 2021. My prediction had come true. 🤣

Itshim 07-12-2020 17:15

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
If ever had a misleading name it's TLC - in case you didn't know the learning channel .

vincerooney 07-12-2020 23:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36061234)
What does Vincerooney tell me? you like Vince Mcmahon and Wayne Rooney?
I'm just joking with you mate i agree some channel names are plain daft but Really just symbolises reality.
Could be worse they could have gone with the original planned name reallyrealtv.

hahha you'd be right about vince but nope that b&stard wayne stole my surname.

Did we ever find out if the horizon software is coming to tivo v6? This place basically said no but the official forum posters seem to think yes. The new tivo boxes don't seem to be the main replacement for the v6 either?

Legendkiller2k 07-12-2020 23:20

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36061317)
hahha you'd be right about vince but nope that b&stard wayne stole my surname.

Did we ever find out if the horizon software is coming to tivo v6? This place basically said no but the official forum posters seem to think yes. The new tivo boxes don't seem to be the main replacement for the v6 either?

I think Ben or Spiderplant mentioned the Horizon software will be rolled out on the V6 eventually.
At our office we've not heard of any new hardward but we rarely deal with hardware/software side of things anyway it's more content, broadcasters/networks we deal with.

TMLeafs 08-12-2020 10:10

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Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36061266)
Sky have confirmed that Sky Cinema Disney (ch. 407) is renaming to Five Star Movies on New Year's Eve, before shutting permanently on 6th January 2021. My prediction had come true. 🤣

Source, I can't find anything

nomadking 08-12-2020 11:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMLeafs (Post 36061330)
Source, I can't find anything

Listed here. We get back Sky Cinema Premiere+1 instead.
Link
Quote:

On 23 July 2020, Sky Cinema launched a twelfth channel, Sky Cinema Animation, replacing Sky Cinema Premiere +1 on Sky and Virgin Media UK. Sky Cinema Premiere +1 continued to air on Virgin Media Ireland until its removal on 13 August 2020.[32] The channel will resume broadcasting on 6 January 2021, replacing Sky Cinema Disney.
Renaming it to "Five Star Movies" seems a stopgap. Surely Disney programming is one of the channels that wouldn't need renaming over the Christmas period.

Getting very silly with people having to have a dozen or so different subscriptions to different content.

spiderplant 08-12-2020 11:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36061319)
I think Ben or Spiderplant mentioned the Horizon software will be rolled out on the V6 eventually.

Don't think we said it would be rolled out. But it can be deployed onto the V6 boxes, and that is being trialled at the moment. (And we don't use the H-word any more. It's TV360)

cheekyangus 08-12-2020 12:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36061339)
Don't think we said it would be rolled out. But it can be deployed onto the V6 boxes, and that is being trialled at the moment. (And we don't use the H-word any more. It's TV360)

:D

TV360 is too Xbox 360-ish for me (though blander). And Horizon software is deployed elsewhere...so I don't see the problem with using either or both depending on context. I mean we say V6 and it runs TiVo, which we still mention. So saying TV360 which runs Horizon isn't any different.

Legendkiller2k 08-12-2020 12:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36061339)
Don't think we said it would be rolled out. But it can be deployed onto the V6 boxes, and that is being trialled at the moment. (And we don't use the H-word any more. It's TV360)

Thanks Spiderplant.

On VM news had a phonecall this morning from VM asking if i'd like to sign up (they have my permission to contact me) i said "no as VM isn't in my block" they said it's coming very soon.

So it'll arrive around 2035 in my block then :p:

SonicMaster 08-12-2020 12:57

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36060954)
Wikipedia: Discovery to rebrand some channels in 2021.

Wikipedia is reporting that Discovery are set to rebrand some Discovery own channels next year:

Really will become Discovery Really
TLC HD & +1 will become Discovery TLC HD & +1
Quest HD & +1 will become Discovery Quest HD & +1
Quest Red SD & +1 will become Discovery Quest Red SD & +1
Food Network SD & +1 will become Discovery Food Network SD & +1
HGTV SD & +1 will become Discovery HGTV SD & +1[COLOR="Silver"]

Sounds like bullshit tbh. Anyone can make up rubbish like that on Wikipedia.

cheekyangus 08-12-2020 13:04

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36061346)
Sounds like bullshit tbh. Anyone can make up rubbish like that on Wikipedia.

Quite. I hope so, on certain EPGs (various Freeview ones particularly) they'll all be cropped and just read Discovery, which won't help viewers at all.

1andrew1 08-12-2020 13:04

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36061346)
Sounds like bullshit tbh. Anyone can make up rubbish like that on Wikipedia.

Key trick I find with Wikipedia is to look for a link to the information on it. If there's no link to information like that then I treat it with caution.

SonicMaster 08-12-2020 14:03

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VM might be about to combine the Virgin Media Store (to buy movies & TV box sets) and Virgin Movies (to rent movies) into one service.

They've replaced the Virgin Movies section on this page with Virgin Media Store.

Virgin TV Go has been updated with logos for 'Virgin Media Store Rent' and 'Virgin Media Store Buy', although the text titles are still showing as 'Virgin Movies' and 'VM Store UK'.

It's always been a bit messy having them as separate services, one part of the main UI and the other as an app/website.

Hugh 08-12-2020 14:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36061348)
Key trick I find with Wikipedia is to look for a link to the information on it. If there's no link to information like that then I treat it with caution.

As Wiki themselves state
Quote:

Wikipedia is not a reliable source for academic writing or research. Wikipedia is increasingly used by people in the academic community, from freshman students to distinguished professorship, as an easily accessible tertiary source for information about anything and everything, and as a quick "ready reference", to get a sense of a concept or idea.

However, citation of Wikipedia in research papers may be considered unacceptable, because Wikipedia is not a reliable source.[1][2][3]

Many[4] colleges and universities (especially in some high schools and private schools) have a policy that prohibits students from using Wikipedia as their source for doing research papers, essays, or anything equivalent. This is because Wikipedia can be edited by anyone at any moment. Although when an error is recognized, it is usually fixed. However, because Wikipedia cannot monitor thousands of edits made every day, some of those edits could contain vandalism or could be simply wrong and left unnoticed for days, weeks, months, or even years.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academic_use

Mad Max 08-12-2020 15:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36061345)
Thanks Spiderplant.

On VM news had a phonecall this morning from VM asking if i'd like to sign up (they have my permission to contact me) i said "no as VM isn't in my block" they said it's coming very soon.

So it'll arrive around 2035 in my block then :p:

Just in time for linear to be obsolete....:D

denphone 08-12-2020 15:46

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36061371)
Just in time for linear to be obsolete....:D

l thought it was 2025...;)

Legendkiller2k 08-12-2020 16:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36061371)
Just in time for linear to be obsolete....:D

:D:D:D

SonicMaster 09-12-2020 15:17

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In the V6 TV Guide, VM are now using the ITV HD logo on both 103 and 113, whoops!

Legendkiller2k 09-12-2020 18:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMLeafs (Post 36061330)
Source, I can't find anything

Confirmed in TV and Sattelite weekly has a banner saying "Sky Cinema Disney closes on 31st December 2020"

ozsat 09-12-2020 19:12

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Sky released schedules for Cinema Disney which show programmes ending on 6th Jan aftering being called Five Star Movies for a few days

cheekyangus 09-12-2020 21:19

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I thought there was something odd about the My Favourite Apps on my V6. It then occurred to me that STV Player was missing.

When I went to add it, not only was the STV Player icon different, but ITV Hub was also there. And being in Scotland we haven't had the app to this point, just an ITV Hub-branded folder in Catch-up.

So they've finally added what was missing in Scotland on VM. I'm assuming it's a special variation that doesn't have Channel 3 content, as that's in the STV Player app here, and just ITV2/3/4/Be/CiTV content.

cheekyangus 10-12-2020 11:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36061580)
I thought there was something odd about the My Favourite Apps on my V6. It then occurred to me that STV Player was missing.

When I went to add it, not only was the STV Player icon different, but ITV Hub was also there. And being in Scotland we haven't had the app to this point, just an ITV Hub-branded folder in Catch-up.

So they've finally added what was missing in Scotland on VM. I'm assuming it's a special variation that doesn't have Channel 3 content, as that's in the STV Player app here, and just ITV2/3/4/Be/CiTV content.

I just checked this morning, STV Player no longer has Channel 3 content here. So both apps are the version available in rest of UK on VM by the look of it.

I'm surprised. Maybe STV and ITV made a deal as both of them developing two versions of their apps on VM wasn't economical? Or maybe someone at VM messed up and rolled out what was already available outside of Scotland on VM?

JJ20X on Forum Box said yesterday that my area had its number of VOD streams cut like most of the other areas had. Maybe this is all an accident and a mistake was made with app regionalisation when this stream change was implemented?

Does anyone else in Scotland on Virgin Media have the ITV Hub app as well as the STV Player on their V6?

---------- Post added at 11:57 ---------- Previous post was at 11:55 ----------

Or can a VM employee comment please?

djs9750 10-12-2020 15:11

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I am in West Lothian and just looked and still only have the STV player. I notice you said you added it, sorry for being thick, but how do you do that. My all apps has 23 items. Only have V6 and not the new TV360

cheekyangus 10-12-2020 15:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by djs9750 (Post 36061692)
I am in West Lothian and just looked and still only have the STV player. I notice you said you added it, sorry for being thick, but how do you do that. My all apps has 23 items. Only have V6 and not the new TV360

I pressed Thumbs Up to add it My Favourite Apps. I didn't add it to my box. :)

Thanks for confirming it's not showing where you are.

djs9750 10-12-2020 15:26

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Understand now - thanks

Media Boy UK 10-12-2020 19:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36061693)
I pressed Thumbs Up to add it My Favourite Apps. I didn't add it to my box. :)

Thanks for confirming it's not showing where you are.

I see CNN and Al Jazeera now has an app on "TV 360" so I feel we will see Virgin drop the following channels in 2021.

CNN,
Cartoon Network,
Boomerang,
Al Jazeera,

To make way for the following HD Channels to launch

CNN HD,
Boomerang HD,
Al Jazeera HD.

We may see the following too.

607. CNN closes.
607. CNN HD launches.
622. Al Jazeera closes.
622. Al Jazeera HD launches.
704. Cartoon Network closes.
704. Cartoon Network HD moves from Channel 732.
705. Cartoon Network +1 (Stays as now).
706. Cartoonito (Stays as now).
707. Boomerang HD launches.
708. Boomerang +1 moves from Channel 731.
730. Boomerang closes.

CITV may also move to Channel 710.

paul0363 10-12-2020 19:43

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If you have a 360 box Cartoon Network HD has already moved to 704 (there is no SD version on the 360)! This is in the shared profile as you can reorder the channels in individual profiles on the 360.

Basically on the 360 the HD channel swaps have happened and SD channels removed (with a few exceptions - e.g. C4 outside the London area).

Media Boy UK 10-12-2020 19:48

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paul0363 (Post 36061739)
If you have a 360 box Cartoon Network HD has already moved to 704 (there is no SD version on the 360)! This is in the shared profile as you can reorder the channels on the 360.

Basically on the 360 the HD channel swaps have happened and SD channels removed (with a few exceptions - e.g. C4 outside the London area).

Thanks for info - TiVo still got Cartoon Network SD Channel on Virgin 704.

What do the 360 say on Channels 607 and 622? (CNN and Al Jazeera.)

paul0363 10-12-2020 20:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36061742)
Thanks for info - TiVo still got Cartoon Network SD Channel on Virgin 704.

What do the 360 say on Channels 607 and 622? (CNN and Al Jazeera.)

They're still the SD versions as the HD vesrsion isn't available on VM.

I've attached a couple of EPG pics below which will give you an idea of what's happening with the 360, plus one of a renumbered profile (where I've swapped C4 SD fo the HD version)

Media Boy UK 10-12-2020 20:11

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paul0363 (Post 36061746)
They're still the SD versions as the HD vesrsion isn't available on VM.

I've attached a couple of EPG pics below which will give you an idea of what's happening with the 360, plus one of a renumbered profile (where I've swapped C4 SD fo the HD version)

Thanks for info and EPG pics.

---------- Post added at 20:11 ---------- Previous post was at 20:06 ----------

Media Boy Blog is looking to launch an Virgin Media 360 channel list so if anyone with an 360 Box just drop me an PM with the full list of channels names and channels numbers we will launch one by December 17th.

vincerooney 15-12-2020 01:00

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
As someone who is lazy and fairly ignorant what is this v6 360 roll out? As far as i was aware it seemed fairly awful. I currently have 3 v6 boxes which are used so i wouldnt want 360 mini boxes which just stream from other boxes....

"However, from early next year, customers with a V6 box who choose to upgrade to Virgin TV 360 will instead be able to get the software update over the air."

Well...i want to keep my 3 v6 boxes? do i get anything from"upgrading" ? I assume i get fancy new software but potentially lose v6 boxes. Help me understand it my friends as i'm lost with all these boxes now...

RichardCoulter 15-12-2020 06:58

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36062323)
As someone who is lazy and fairly ignorant what is this v6 360 roll out? As far as i was aware it seemed fairly awful. I currently have 3 v6 boxes which are used so i wouldnt want 360 mini boxes which just stream from other boxes....

"However, from early next year, customers with a V6 box who choose to upgrade to Virgin TV 360 will instead be able to get the software update over the air."

Well...i want to keep my 3 v6 boxes? do i get anything from"upgrading" ? I assume i get fancy new software but potentially lose v6 boxes. Help me understand it my friends as i'm lost with all these boxes now...

AIUI Vince there has been one trial where boxes were replaced, but only the first STB had a HDD. The second trial currently being undertaken allows all current boxes (which have HDD's) to have the new software over the air.

From what I've read it is full of bugs and is inferior to the TiVo software that the V6 uses, so I won't be using it. If/when VM force this onto their customers I will be leaving.

There's a thread about it here:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...709333&page=28

And some feedback from those that have changed over can be found here:

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5.../Virgin_TV_360

Media Boy UK 16-12-2020 14:30

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36061580)
I thought there was something odd about the My Favourite Apps on my V6. It then occurred to me that STV Player was missing.

When I went to add it, not only was the STV Player icon different, but ITV Hub was also there. And being in Scotland we haven't had the app to this point, just an ITV Hub-branded folder in Catch-up.

So they've finally added what was missing in Scotland on VM. I'm assuming it's a special variation that doesn't have Channel 3 content, as that's in the STV Player app here, and just ITV2/3/4/Be/CiTV content.

ITV Hub did appear on my TiVo box last Friday but was removed again by Saturday

---------- Post added at 14:30 ---------- Previous post was at 14:27 ----------

For anyone with the new Virgin Media 360 box

Quote:

Media Boy Blog is looking to launch an Virgin Media 360 channel list so if anyone with an 360 Box just drop me an PM with the full list of channels names and channels numbers we will launch one soon.

cheekyangus 16-12-2020 15:55

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36062446)
ITV Hub did appear on my TiVo box last Friday but was removed again by Saturday

I've still got access on my V6. Oddly though it's disappeared from My Favourite Apps despite it still being in All Apps AND with a thumb on it showing it's favourited. I can still load it too.

Media Boy UK 16-12-2020 16:37

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Best of 2020
Here is the winners and review of 2020.

01) The Biggest poster of the year on Cable Forum (NOT Media Boy HQ):
Winner is - cheekyangus with 210 posts

02) New Channel of the year (Nominate by YOU):
Winner is - MTV Classic (Did launch January 7th)

03) Best poster on Cable Forum with Information (Nominate by YOU):
Winner is - Legendkiller2k

04) Best new SD Channel launch of the year:
Winner is - COLORS HD (Did launch November 26th)

05) Best +1 Channel of the year:
Winner is - (Virgin Media did not launch an new +1 channel in 2020)

06) Best new HD or UHD Channel launch of the year:
Winners is - ITV Local HD (Did launch November 3rd)

07) Best UK Channel of the year:
Winner is - Forces TV

08) Best International Channel of the year:
Winner is - SONY SAB

09) Best LOCAL Channel of the year:
Winner is - S4C HD

10) Best Radio Channel of the year (Nominate by YOU):
Winner is - BBC Radio 2

11) Best new brand of the year:
Winner is - Sky Replay (Was Sky Two until September 7th.)

Well done to all the winners.

So merry Christmas and a happy new year to everyone who viewed this thread.


Virgin Media UK year in review:

Channels we said Hello to:
Oct. 21st: ITV London HD (ITV London area only).
Oct. 21st: ITV Granada HD (ITV Granada area only).
Oct. 21st: ITV Central (West) HD (ITV Central area only).
Oct. 21st: ITV Central (East) HD (ITV Central area only).
Oct. 21st: ITV Wales HD (In Wales only).
Oct. 21st: ITV West HD (ITV West area only).
Oct. 21st: ITV South West HD (ITV South West area only).
Oct. 21st: ITV Meridian (Thames Valley) HD (ITV Meridian area only).
Oct. 21st: ITV Anglia (East) HD (ITV Anglia area only).
Oct. 21st: ITV Tyne Tees HD (ITV Tyne Tees area only).
Oct. 21st: ITV Meridian (South Coast) HD (ITV Meridian area only).
Oct. 21st: ITV Meridian (South East) HD (ITV Meridian area only).
Oct. 21st: ITV Yorkshire (Calendar North) HD (ITV Yorkshire area only).
Oct. 21st: ITV Yorkshire (Calendar South) HD (ITV Yorkshire area only).
Oct. 21st: ITV Anglia (East) HD (ITV Anglia area only).
Oct. 21st: ITV Border HD (ITV Border area only).
Oct. 21st: ITV Meridian (Thames Valley) HD.
Jul. 23rd: Sky Cinema Animation HD.
May 21st: Sky Documentaries HD.
May 21st: Sky Nature HD.
Jan. 27th: Sky Comedy.
Jan. 27th: Sky Comedy HD.
Jan. 17th: La Liga TV.
Jan. 7th: MTV Classic.

Channels on the move:
Nov. 3rd: ITV London HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 113 to Virgin UK Channel 103 (ITV London area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Granada HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 113 to Virgin UK Channel 103 (ITV Granada area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Central (West) HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 113 to Virgin UK Channel 103 (ITV Central area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Central (East) HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 113 to Virgin UK Channel 103 (ITV Central area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Wales HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 113 to Virgin UK Channel 103 (In Wales only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV West HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 113 to Virgin UK Channel 103 (ITV West area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV South West HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 113 to Virgin UK Channel 103 (ITV South West area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Meridian (Thames Valley) HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 113 to Virgin UK Channel 103 (ITV Meridian area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Anglia (East) HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 113 to Virgin UK Channel 103 (ITV Anglia area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Tyne Tees HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 113 to Virgin UK Channel 103 (ITV Tyne Tees area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Meridian (South Coast) HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 113 to Virgin UK Channel 103 (ITV Meridian area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Meridian (South East) HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 113 to Virgin UK Channel 103 (ITV Meridian area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Yorkshire (Calendar North) HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 113 to Virgin UK Channel 103 (ITV Yorkshire area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Yorkshire (Calendar South) HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 113 to Virgin UK Channel 103 (ITV Yorkshire area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Anglia (East) HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 113 to Virgin UK Channel 103 (ITV Anglia area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Border HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 113 to Virgin UK Channel 103 (ITV Border area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV London has moved from Virgin UK Channel 103 to Virgin UK Channel 113 (ITV London area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Granada has moved from Virgin UK Channel 103 to Virgin UK Channel 113 (ITV Granada area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Central (West) has moved from Virgin UK Channel 103 to Virgin UK Channel 113 (ITV Central area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Central (East) has moved from Virgin UK Channel 103 to Virgin UK Channel 113 (ITV Central area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Wales has moved from Virgin UK Channel 103 to Virgin UK Channel 113 (In Wales only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV West has moved from Virgin UK Channel 103 to Virgin UK Channel 113 (ITV West area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV South West has moved from Virgin UK Channel 103 to Virgin UK Channel 113 (ITV South West area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Meridian (Thames Valley) has moved from Virgin UK Channel 103 to Virgin UK Channel 113 (ITV Meridian area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Anglia (East) has moved from Virgin UK Channel 103 to Virgin UK Channel 113 (ITV Anglia area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Tyne Tees has moved from Virgin UK Channel 103 to Virgin UK Channel 113 (ITV Tyne Tees area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Meridian (South Coast) has moved from Virgin UK Channel 103 to Virgin UK Channel 113 (ITV Meridian area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Meridian (South East) has moved from Virgin UK Channel 103 to Virgin UK Channel 113 (ITV Meridian area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Yorkshire (Calendar North) has moved from Virgin UK Channel 103 to Virgin UK Channel 113 (ITV Yorkshire area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Yorkshire (Calendar South) moved from Virgin UK Channel 103 to Virgin UK Channel 113 (ITV Yorkshire area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Anglia (East) has moved from Virgin UK Channel 103 to Virgin UK Channel 113 (ITV Anglia area only).
Nov. 3rd: ITV Border has moved from Virgin UK Channel 103 to Virgin UK Channel 113 (ITV Border area only).
May 21st: Food Network has moved from Virgin UK Channel 278 to Virgin UK Channel 285.
May 21st: HGTV has moved from Virgin UK Channel 279 to Virgin UK Channel 286.
May 21st: Discovery Home & Health has moved from Virgin UK Channel 280 to Virgin UK Channel 287.
May 21st: Discovery Shed has moved from Virgin UK Channel 281 to Virgin UK Channel 288.
May 21st: Travel Channel has moved from Virgin UK Channel 282 to Virgin UK Channel 289.
May 21st: HGTV +1 has moved from Virgin UK Channel 283 to Virgin UK Channel 290.
May 21st: Discovery Home & Health +1 has moved from Virgin UK Channel 284 to Virgin UK Channel 291.
May 21st: God Channel has moved from Virgin UK Channel 287 to Virgin UK Channel 292.
May 21st: Horse & Country TV has moved from Virgin UK Channel 298 to Virgin UK Channel 293.
Jan 7th: Channel 5 HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 150 to Virgin UK Channel 105.
Jan 7th: Comedy Central HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 181 to Virgin UK Channel 132.
Jan 7th: MTV HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 183 to Virgin UK Channel 134.
Jan 7th: Paramount Network HD has moved from Virgin UK Channel 187 to Virgin UK Channel 150.
Jan 7th: Channel 5 has moved from Virgin UK Channel 105 to Virgin UK Channel 154.
Jan 7th: Comedy Central has moved from Virgin UK Channel 132 to Virgin UK Channel 181.
Jan 7th: MTV has moved from Virgin UK Channel 134 to Virgin UK Channel 183.
Jan 7th: Paramount Network has moved from Virgin UK Channel 188 to Virgin UK Channel 187.

Channels rebrand (For Good):
Nov. 26th: COLORS rebrand as COLORS HD.
Sep. 7th: Sky Two rebrand as Sky Replay.
Jul. 7th: Get Moving rebrand as Get Moving HD.
Jun. 11th: Sky Racing rebrand as Sky Racing HD.
May 21st: HISTORY HD rebrand as Sky History HD.
May 21st: HISTORY +1 rebrand as Sky History +1.
May 21st: HISTORY 2 HD rebrand as Sky History 2 HD
Feb. 11th: TJC rebrand as TJC HD.
Jan. 21st: Home rebrand as HGTV.
Jan. 21st: Home +1 rebrand as HGTV +1.

Channels we said Goodbye to:
Dec. 4th: Love Nature HD.
Dec. 2nd: HUM EUROPE.
Sep. 30th: Disney XD.
Sep. 30th: Disney Channel.
Sep. 30th: Disney Channel +1.
Sep. 30th: Disney Jr.
Aug. 27th: Travel Channel.
Jul. 31st: Sony Channel +1.
Jul. 22nd: Sky Cinema Premiere +1.
Jul. 20th: Vice TV.
Jul. 20th: Horse & Country TV.
Jul. 20th: Club MTV.
Jul. 20th: MTV ROCKS.
Jul. 20th: MTV OMG.
Jun. 9th: Sony Crime Channel.
Jun. 1st: Challenge +1.
Apr. 6th: Hayu app.
Apr. 3rd: France 24 [French] HD.
Jan. 27th: Universal Channel.
Jan. 27th: Universal Channel HD.
Jan. 27th: Universal Channel +1.
Jan. 15th: Brit Asia TV.
Jan. 8th: Box Upfront.
Jan. 7th: 5Spike.
Jan. 7th: VH1.
Jan. 6th: ZooMoo HD.

Who Posted on Changes to Virgin TV (2020)?

NO: > Poster name > Number of posts (As of 4.10pm on December 16th 2020).
01) cheekyangus - 210
02) Legendkiller2k - 115
03) Media Boy - 113
04) SonicMaster - 105
05) OLD BOY - 100
06) denphone - 81
07) ScottishSteve - 68
08) vincerooney - 56
09) ozsat - 51
09) RichardCoulter - 51
11) Mad Max - 40
12) Raider999 - 38
13) 1andrew1 - 34
14) muppetman11 - 30
15) jfman - 29
16) Aguero9320 - 27
17) BenMcr - 22
18) jobbie8 - 20
19) Tricky Trevor - 19
19) Phunkenstein - 19
19) Itshim - 19
19) nomadking - 19
23) newapollo - 17
24) fox35 - 16
25) Hugh - 15
25) Dave42 - 15
27) spiderplant - 14
28) nialli - 12
29) Ultimate.Conj - 11
29) 1701-e - 11
31) Frazz - 10
32) heavyside - 9
32) nodrogd - 9
34) Taf - 8
34) johnasimmons - 8
36) Horizon - 7
37) japitts - 6
37) paul0363 - 6
39) Inactive Digital - 5
39) Derekb108 - 5
39) Richardr - 5
39) oxfordmark - 5
43) Chad - 4
43) KingFry - 4
43) RobboEdin - 4
43) reddog - 4
43) RegularCapital - 4
43) ncfc1902 - 4
43) Huxie - 4
50) TMLeafs - 3
50) cupcakes aka dd - 3
50) Paul - 3
50) Chris James - 3
50) Ddonald2016 - 3
50) Mr K - 3
50) figgyburn - 3
50) Joedm45 - 3
50) carravetta - 3
59) gba93 - 2
59) trickytree - 2
59) alwaysabear - 2
59) trevrpb - 2
59) efw - 2
59) Barriescott - 2
59) JMcB - 2
59) Rob King - 2
59) Mobes - 2
59) trublue - 2
59) djs9750 - 2
59) Maggy - 2
59) djmagnifique - 2
59) Bofrok - 2
59) mot12 - 2
73) Khenryashley - 1
73) spankysmagicpian - 1
73) TheWatcher - 1
73) biddy - 1
73) DECKAS - 1
73) punkrock101 - 1
73) AdamDigital - 1
73 trueblood - 1
73) krismestry - 1
73) heero_yuy - 1
73) offmore - 1
73) Henkesghost - 1
73) savvychels - 1
73) locutus1974 - 1
73) seedybob - 1

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jfman 16-12-2020 17:25

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
I can’t believe there isn’t an award for smoking out Old Boy’s latest goal post shift as he got himself into contortions over the word “linear”.

cheekyangus 16-12-2020 17:28

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Not sure how I won that. Oops. :D

Sony Channel +1 still exists on other platforms, just not VM by the way.

Media Boy UK 16-12-2020 17:31

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36062490)
Not sure how I won that. Oops. :D

Sony Channel +1 still exists on other platforms, just not VM by the way.

"we" means Virgin Media viewers.

cheekyangus 16-12-2020 18:42

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36062492)
"we" means Virgin Media viewers.

When I was glancing over the list the others looked like services that had closed everywhere and I thought I was picking out the one that different. On a second look there are others I could have grouped with it.

Raider999 16-12-2020 20:06

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36062490)
Not sure how I won that. Oops. :D

Sony Channel +1 still exists on other platforms, just not VM by the way.

No I can't believe it wasn't OldBoy or Jfman they must do 210 posts a week

RichardCoulter 16-12-2020 22:18

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
And the latter with the apparent sole intention of antagonising other members.

jfman 16-12-2020 22:30

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36062523)
And the latter with the apparent sole intention of antagonising other members.

Pots and kettles, Ricardo.

---------- Post added at 22:30 ---------- Previous post was at 22:30 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36062513)
No I can't believe it wasn't OldBoy or Jfman they must do 210 posts a week

The linear/streaming chat gets diluted across the many, many threads OB started on the same subject.

Itshim 17-12-2020 18:47

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Really you have far to much time on your hands , saying that I am retired and normally home alone. Granddaughter with me for Xmas as she can't get home . So it's just Oxford to Cardiff instead of both of us going stateside. Glad she pick Oxford over John Hopkins !

Mad Max 17-12-2020 23:14

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Reams and reams of absolute garbage on here.

1andrew1 17-12-2020 23:31

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

04) Best new SD Channel launch of the year:
Winner is - COLORS HD (Did launch November 26th)
Media Boy, is this a typo? It seems to suggest an HD channel won the SD channel award.

denphone 18-12-2020 05:20

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36062605)
Reams and reams of absolute garbage on here.

But you don't have to read it....;)

Mad Max 18-12-2020 15:48

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36062616)
But you don't have to read it....;)

I didn't, a quick glance told me all I needed to know.

cheekyangus 18-12-2020 15:58

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
JJ20X on Forum Box has posted that the pack code for Virgin Media Ulta HD Channel has changed to M/Player and Above.

I can confirm that Channel 999 is now not greyed out for me, so it looks like all VM TV customers are getting access to it now. JJ20X said it was a pack code change rather than an override, so that bodes well, in my opinion, for it being more likely to be permanent. I'd imagine VM themselves will confirm that if it is the case.

---------- Post added at 15:58 ---------- Previous post was at 15:53 ----------

I forgot, JJ20X specifically said 4K versions of those tiers. So maybe not all customers have this pack code flag on their TV account.

BenMcr 18-12-2020 16:09

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
There aren't 4K or non-4K versions of TV packs.

Access to 4K content is dependent on whether you have a V6 or 360 box or not. Older TiVo boxes can't decode the channels at all.

SonicMaster 18-12-2020 17:01

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36062666)
JJ20X on Forum Box has posted that the pack code for Virgin Media Ulta HD Channel has changed to M/Player and Above.

I can confirm that Channel 999 is now not greyed out for me, so it looks like all VM TV customers are getting access to it now. JJ20X said it was a pack code change rather than an override, so that bodes well, in my opinion, for it being more likely to be permanent. I'd imagine VM themselves will confirm that if it is the case.

---------- Post added at 15:58 ---------- Previous post was at 15:53 ----------

I forgot, JJ20X specifically said 4K versions of those tiers. So maybe not all customers have this pack code flag on their TV account.

VM's own Guide says 'Virgin TV Ultra HD available to all 18th Dec - 2nd Jan'.

It's a great bonus for non-XL / Full House TV customers with cult films in UHD every night including:

The Big Lebowski
Born on the Fourth of July
The Breakfast Club
Psycho
Rear Window
Vertigo
The Birds
The Sugarland Express

cheekyangus 18-12-2020 17:48

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36062668)
There aren't 4K or non-4K versions of TV packs.

Access to 4K content is dependent on whether you have a V6 or 360 box or not. Older TiVo boxes can't decode the channels at all.

I didn't say there were 4K packs/tiers, neither did they. Packs and pack codes/flags being different things.

---------- Post added at 17:48 ---------- Previous post was at 17:46 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36062674)
VM's own Guide says 'Virgin TV Ultra HD available to all 18th Dec - 2nd Jan'.

It's a great bonus for non-XL / Full House TV customers with cult films in UHD every night including:

The Big Lebowski
Born on the Fourth of July
The Breakfast Club
Psycho
Rear Window
Vertigo
The Birds
The Sugarland Express

Thanks SonicMaster. I found it.

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...-no-extra-cost

vincerooney 19-12-2020 00:49

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Glad to be in the top ten list again with wonderful chiefs and gaffers. Thanks Media Boy again for your work.

What do we think 2021 will bring? I'm going for:

1) That right wing news channel will launch but wont be as funny as Fox News due to UK Broadcasting laws

2) Sky Atlantic will finally appear on Virgin Media because no one really wants it anymore and there really isnt anything that good on it anymore.

3) All the city channels will go bankrupt and go off air as regional channels dont work in the UK....they work in America because ......its a lot, lot bigger...

4) The new premier league deals for 2022 onwards are awarded. Sky and BT keep their packages at roughly the same level but Amazon take another package as more games are removed from 3pm and shunted across two blocks of saturday evening games and 3 blocks of sunday evening games.

5) European rights are up in the air for germany and italy and sky and BT don't bid for them even though they put their prices up

6) No further apps arrive on virgin media and the confusion about the horizon interface on tivo v6s is still not confirmed.

Whats everyone elses predictions for "coming soon...."?

Aguero9320 19-12-2020 12:18

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36062728)
Glad to be in the top ten list again with wonderful chiefs and gaffers. Thanks Media Boy again for your work.

What do we think 2021 will bring? I'm going for:

1) That right wing news channel will launch but wont be as funny as Fox News due to UK Broadcasting laws

2) Sky Atlantic will finally appear on Virgin Media because no one really wants it anymore and there really isnt anything that good on it anymore.

3) All the city channels will go bankrupt and go off air as regional channels dont work in the UK....they work in America because ......its a lot, lot bigger...

4) The new premier league deals for 2022 onwards are awarded. Sky and BT keep their packages at roughly the same level but Amazon take another package as more games are removed from 3pm and shunted across two blocks of saturday evening games and 3 blocks of sunday evening games.

5) European rights are up in the air for germany and italy and sky and BT don't bid for them even though they put their prices up

6) No further apps arrive on virgin media and the confusion about the horizon interface on tivo v6s is still not confirmed.

Whats everyone elses predictions for "coming soon...."?

I mostly agree with you, Vince. However, I think DAZN will pounce on increasing numbers of major UK sporting rights, especially with their launch earlier this month.

Legendkiller2k 19-12-2020 13:42

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
All i can say is a lot of big big irons in the fires for 2021.

Tricky Trevor 19-12-2020 14:14

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36062728)
Glad to be in the top ten list again with wonderful chiefs and gaffers. Thanks Media Boy again for your work.

What do we think 2021 will bring? I'm going for:

1) That right wing news channel will launch but wont be as funny as Fox News due to UK Broadcasting laws

2) Sky Atlantic will finally appear on Virgin Media because no one really wants it anymore and there really isnt anything that good on it anymore.

3) All the city channels will go bankrupt and go off air as regional channels dont work in the UK....they work in America because ......its a lot, lot bigger...

4) The new premier league deals for 2022 onwards are awarded. Sky and BT keep their packages at roughly the same level but Amazon take another package as more games are removed from 3pm and shunted across two blocks of saturday evening games and 3 blocks of sunday evening games.

5) European rights are up in the air for germany and italy and sky and BT don't bid for them even though they put their prices up

6) No further apps arrive on virgin media and the confusion about the horizon interface on tivo v6s is still not confirmed.

Whats everyone elses predictions for "coming soon...."?


Yeah,Virgin will announce that Sky UHD will launch in 2022 :erm:

Mad Max 19-12-2020 19:04

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36062762)
All i can say is a lot of big big irons in the fires for 2021.

We've heard that a few times mate.

1andrew1 19-12-2020 19:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36062728)
Glad to be in the top ten list again with wonderful chiefs and gaffers. Thanks Media Boy again for your work.

What do we think 2021 will bring? I'm going for:

1) That right wing news channel will launch but wont be as funny as Fox News due to UK Broadcasting laws

2) Sky Atlantic will finally appear on Virgin Media because no one really wants it anymore and there really isnt anything that good on it anymore.

3) All the city channels will go bankrupt and go off air as regional channels dont work in the UK....they work in America because ......its a lot, lot bigger...

4) The new premier league deals for 2022 onwards are awarded. Sky and BT keep their packages at roughly the same level but Amazon take another package as more games are removed from 3pm and shunted across two blocks of saturday evening games and 3 blocks of sunday evening games.

5) European rights are up in the air for germany and italy and sky and BT don't bid for them even though they put their prices up

6) No further apps arrive on virgin media and the confusion about the horizon interface on tivo v6s is still not confirmed.

Whats everyone elses predictions for "coming soon...."?

Some well thought-through predictions, Vince.

I think 2021 will be an appy new year - Disney+, DAZN and Discovery. ;)

cheekyangus 19-12-2020 19:52

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36062857)
Some well thought-through predictions, Vince.

I think 2021 will be an appy new year - Disney+, DAZN and Discovery. ;)

Discovery have a 12 month exclusivity with Sky, so that would be right at the end of 2021

1andrew1 19-12-2020 20:03

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36062867)
Discovery have a 12 month exclusivity with Sky, so that would be right at the end of 2021

Phew! Didn't want my predictions ruled out the same day I had made them! :D

cheekyangus 19-12-2020 20:08

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36062873)
Phew! Didn't want my predictions ruled out the same day I had made them! :D

LOL :D

Funnily enough, I thought that as I typed. "Glad that doesn't mess the prediction up" I thought. :D

jfman 19-12-2020 21:10

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36062851)
We've heard that a few times mate.

It's Groundhog Day every year on here with predictions for next year. :D

The DAZN one is an interesting one. Very much in 'last throw of the dice' mode trying to get a foothold in more markets with an obvious loss leader at £1.99 a month in the UK. That said - they are getting some rights elsewhere such as Germany.

However, we know from Setanta Sports and Eleven Sports that the UK market is a tough nut to crack. BT have arguably not seen the returns from sport it would expect and while I don't foresee them intentionally exiting the market I doubt they intend to go all out in bidding wars.

A standalone boxing channel has been tried and largely failed. While Boxnation still exists with wholesale arrangements with BT and Premier Sports keeping it afloat with almost no new content. While Eddie Hearn would argue that his stable of boxing would be more appealing than that of Frank Warren whether that would remain the case longer term without the free advertising that is Sky Sports News is an unknown.

ScottishSteve 20-12-2020 00:59

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Following on from recent posts here in Scotland

When tuning into BBC Alba 161
There is a message saying
BBC ALBA IS ON THE MOVE
On 4th January will move to 120 in Scotland

ITVBe+1 120 says
ITVBE+1 IS ON THE MOVE
On 4th January this channel will move to 162 in Scotland

I personally find it crazy that such a low viewership channel (even in Scotland) is given such prominence in the rule books.

cheekyangus 20-12-2020 10:40

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Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36062923)
Following on from recent posts here in Scotland

When tuning into BBC Alba 161
There is a message saying
BBC ALBA IS ON THE MOVE
On 4th January will move to 120 in Scotland

ITVBe+1 120 says
ITVBE+1 IS ON THE MOVE
On 4th January this channel will move to 162 in Scotland

I personally find it crazy that such a low viewership channel (even in Scotland) is given such prominence in the rule books.

This backs up what JJ20X has been reporting elsewhere. Thanks ScottishSteve. I agree to an extent. That particular swap is an improvement though. ;)

For those unaware, various PSB channels are getting rearranged on several different platforms due to new OFCOM rules requiring them to be in at least Top 24 (sometimes Top 8) in EPGs. Sky had to move one of their own channels in Wales on satellite recently to get Channel 4 into Top 8. FreeSat recently moved a few things. The whole Freeview EPG got shuffled down a place to get BBC4 to 24 in Scotland. The rules come into effect in January 2021, so VM is leaving it even later than other platforms.

The stranger thing is they didn't use 113 as I believe it's free everywhere following ITV going HD-Only recently on 103 (STV did that a while back).

ScottishSteve 20-12-2020 11:17

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36062940)

The stranger thing is they didn't use 113 as I believe it's free everywhere following ITV going HD-Only recently on 103 (STV did that a while back).

Maybe ITV have plans for 113 nationally and had to make a choice which one to push down the list. Might as well be a lower rate +1 service that takes the hit than a higher position.

Don’t know if you have seen the Freesat EPG in Scotland but what a waste of good numbers

1-5 in usual spots
106 BBC Scotland HD
107 BBC Four HD
108 BBC Scotland SD
109 BBC Alba
110 BBC One SD
111 STV HD

Within the first 11 channels 3 are duplicates due to SD/HD

cheekyangus 20-12-2020 11:42

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Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36062945)
Maybe ITV have plans for 113 nationally and had to make a choice which one to push down the list. Might as well be a lower rate +1 service that takes the hit than a higher position.

Don’t know if you have seen the Freesat EPG in Scotland but what a waste of good numbers

1-5 in usual spots
106 BBC Scotland HD
107 BBC Four HD
108 BBC Scotland SD
109 BBC Alba
110 BBC One SD
111 STV HD

Within the first 11 channels 3 are duplicates due to SD/HD

I have. Sky has a deal with STV for the microregions of STV HD as far as I recall (as part of a wider deal), so that's why STV HD hasn't swapped out on Freesat like ITV HD has. No idea when that deal expires, maybe it has even been renegotiated as Sky announced a content deal with STV just the other day (it didn't seem long since they last did).

108 is HD outside Scotland (for thise with HD equipment) and those SD channels are in the 160s/170s in other parts if the UK. They are just using numbers already allocated. If it were me I'd shift the SD swap-outs for all broadcasters down to the bottom of 180s/190s on Freesat and leave the numbers blank in certain regions.

Legendkiller2k 20-12-2020 13:07

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36062851)
We've heard that a few times mate.

Things are on track mate mostly the broadband side of things.

Mad Max 20-12-2020 14:00

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36062966)
Things are on track mate mostly the broadband side of things.


Cheers for that. :)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36062923)
Following on from recent posts here in Scotland

When tuning into BBC Alba 161
There is a message saying
BBC ALBA IS ON THE MOVE

On 4th January will move to 120 in Scotland

ITVBe+1 120 says
ITVBE+1 IS ON THE MOVE
On 4th January this channel will move to 162 in Scotland

I personally find it crazy that such a low viewership channel (even in Scotland) is given such prominence in the rule books.

Hopefully to the rubbish bin.:D

Itshim 21-12-2020 18:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36062923)
Following on from recent posts here in Scotland

When tuning into BBC Alba 161
There is a message saying
BBC ALBA IS ON THE MOVE
On 4th January will move to 120 in Scotland

ITVBe+1 120 says
ITVBE+1 IS ON THE MOVE
On 4th January this channel will move to 162 in Scotland

I personally find it crazy that such a low viewership channel (even in Scotland) is given such prominence in the rule books.

S4c is moving into channel 4 slot in Wales and that is being pushed down bet that will really boost there figures !!!! NOT

cheekyangus 21-12-2020 19:06

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Reflecting every other TV platform in Wales. Long time coming, even though it will make little likely difference.

SonicMaster 23-12-2020 11:50

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Upcoming changes on Sky, most (if not all) are likely to take place on Virgin Media as well, on or around the same date:

Friday 1st January
Sky Cinema Christmas renames to Sky Cinema Drama

Sunday 3rd January
Christmas 24 renames to Movies 24
Christmas 24+ renames to Movies 24+

Monday 4th January
Sky Cinema Musicals renames to Sky Cinema Greats
Sky Cinema Harry Potter renames to Sky Cinema Feel Good

Tuesday 5th January
Sony Movies Christmas changes back to Sony Movies Classic
MTV XMAS changes back to MTV Classic
BoXmas changes back to The Box
Sky Sports Darts renames to Sky Sports Arena

Wednesday 6th January
Nick Jr. Paw Patrol changes back to Nick Jr. Too
Discovery Shed closes​ permanently
Discovery Home & Health and Discovery Home & Health +1 ​close​ permanently
Sky Cinema Five Star Movies (formerly Sky Cinema Disney) closes​ permanently
Sky Cinema Premiere +1 relaunches

Legendkiller2k 24-12-2020 11:39

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Just want to wish all posters and staff a very merry Christmas.

jfman 24-12-2020 11:45

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36063581)
Just want to wish all posters and staff a very merry Christmas.

And the same from me. Even Old Boy who is still an avid reader but hasn't posted in a while.

Cheers. :beer:

Mad Max 24-12-2020 11:48

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36063582)
And the same from me. Even Old Boy who is still an avid reader but hasn't posted in a while.

Cheers. :beer:

Yup, I'll second/third that :D All the very best to everyone, be good to see OB back to his fighting best....:dig: :D

denphone 24-12-2020 11:49

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36063581)
Just want to wish all posters and staff a very merry Christmas.

And the same to you and all the posters and staff on this forum as well.:xmas::beer:


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