Cable Forum

Cable Forum (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/index.php)
-   Virgin Media TV Service (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=11)
-   -   General : Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019) (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/showthread.php?t=33707215)

denphone 30-07-2019 13:45

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36004534)
VR content the next 3D

Yes and we all know how that turned out despite the predictions on this forum by some that said it would be the next big thing.

Legendkiller2k 30-07-2019 16:31

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36004542)
Yes and we all know how that turned out despite the predictions on this forum by some that said it would be the next big thing.

VR is on a different level to 3D only time will tell if it'll go the same way but if the gaming industry is anything to go by it will be huge.

vincerooney 30-07-2019 17:04

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36004542)
Yes and we all know how that turned out despite the predictions on this forum by some that said it would be the next big thing.

I think the gaming it will be superb but I don't want to drink my wine on the sofa with a headset on looking around me after a long day

gus0898uk 30-07-2019 17:05

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Have VM lost their rights for Scottish Premier league football for the 2019/20 season?

Media Boy UK 30-07-2019 17:10

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gus0898uk (Post 36004553)
Have VM lost their rights for Scottish Premier league football for the 2019/20 season?

Sky Sports and BT Sport have the rights this season.

But only Sky Sports have the rights from 2020 Season.

Kilmarnock VS Rangers is being shown on Sky Sports Football this coming Sunday.

For more Scottish Football you may like: https://www.live-footballontv.com/li...all-on-tv.html

Raider999 30-07-2019 20:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Only Scottish football worth watching is Rangers v Celtic.

Can anyone tell me if Sky Atlantic is coming to VM via catch-up?

If so when?

SonicMaster 30-07-2019 20:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36004526)
The Curzon Home Cinema app will no longer be offered by Virgin Media in its Apps and Games section from 1 August 2019.

Not a great loss. Very little content, and without an EPG slate it probably went unnoticed by many.

muppetman11 30-07-2019 20:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36004587)
Only Scottish football worth watching is Rangers v Celtic.

Can anyone tell me if Sky Atlantic is coming to VM via catch-up?

If so when?

Sky Atlantic wasn't mentioned in the latest deal VM have done with Sky so no.

cheekyangus 30-07-2019 22:19

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36004587)
Only Scottish football worth watching is Rangers v Celtic.

Can anyone tell me if Sky Atlantic is coming to VM via catch-up?

If so when?

The only pair I wouldn't watch.

Raider999 31-07-2019 22:27

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36004590)
Sky Atlantic wasn't mentioned in the latest deal VM have done with Sky so no.


Further news, Game of Thrones s1 to s8 appears to be available via Virgin - although I was prompted to sign in to virgin store???

However Riviera, running currently on SA, is not there?

ScottishSteve 31-07-2019 22:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36004652)
Further news, Game of Thrones s1 to s8 appears to be available via Virgin - although I was prompted to sign in to virgin store???

However Riviera, running currently on SA, is not there?

Virgin Store is just that ‘a store’ just like Amazon Video, iTunes, google Play etc

It’s available to buy there but not as a part of any package

Raider999 31-07-2019 22:32

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36004654)
Virgin Store is just that ‘a store’ just like Amazon Video, iTunes, google Play etc

It’s available to buy there but not as a part of any package


I am sure you are correct, however content via catch-up should not include stuff from Virgin Store - that is a right con.

ScottishSteve 31-07-2019 22:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36004655)
I am sure you are correct, however content via catch-up should not include stuff from Virgin Store - that is a right con.

I agree, it’s a bit like on Amazon Prime you can get some seasons as a part of your subscription and more recent ones to buy.

The worst thing about the Virgin Store is that if you ever leave virgin there is no other way to view your paid for films and seasons on the big screen.

Physical media is the only sure way of ensuring you have access as long as you wish, and you can also lend it to your friends.

Legendkiller2k 31-07-2019 23:13

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36004656)
I agree, it’s a bit like on Amazon Prime you can get some seasons as a part of your subscription and more recent ones to buy.

The worst thing about the Virgin Store is that if you ever leave virgin there is no other way to view your paid for films and seasons on the big screen.

Physical media is the only sure way of ensuring you have access as long as you wish, and you can also lend it to your friends.

Yes you can Virgin store has it's own site here https://www.virginmediastore.com/ where you can watch content even if you're not a customer.
Also most stuff you get sent a dvd through the post too.
BT is the one to watch once you leave them you have 30 days to download your content then it's gone for good.

1andrew1 31-07-2019 23:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36004652)
Further news, Game of Thrones s1 to s8 appears to be available via Virgin - although I was prompted to sign in to virgin store???

However Riviera, running currently on SA, is not there?

Presumably, HBO is making Games of Thrones as widely available now as possible. Whereas Sky which made Riviera is keeping its distribution more exclusive.

ScottishSteve 01-08-2019 00:13

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36004659)
Yes you can Virgin store has it's own site here https://www.virginmediastore.com/ where you can watch content even if you're not a customer.
Also most stuff you get sent a dvd through the post too.
BT is the one to watch once you leave them you have 30 days to download your content then it's gone for good.

Yes I did say that there is no way to watch it on the big screen

Whereas if you buy from Amazon, google etc they are still available on many other devices.

That bad from BT.

Legendkiller2k 01-08-2019 00:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36004664)
Yes I did say that there is no way to watch it on the big screen

Whereas if you buy from Amazon, google etc they are still available on many other devices.

That bad from BT.

You can use chromecast just cast whole screen or if like me your pc is close to tv you can use a hdmi options are available but you'd think they'd have a app though, skystore does.
Yeah i left BT forgot to download 14 movies i bought within the 30 days and lost the lot.

SonicMaster 01-08-2019 09:17

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
August Channel Guide PDF with all the Sky Cinema SD channels removed except Sky Cinema Premiere +1 now on 402.

Desktop Version: https://www.virginmedia.com/content/...August2019.pdf

Mobile Version: https://www.virginmedia.com/content/...August2019.pdf

A couple of mistakes:

Lifetime +1 still listed on 225.
Prime Video not added to 228.

nodrogd 01-08-2019 12:40

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36004673)
August Channel Guide PDF with all the Sky Cinema SD channels removed except Sky Cinema Premiere +1 now on 402.

Desktop Version: https://www.virginmedia.com/content/...August2019.pdf

Mobile Version: https://www.virginmedia.com/content/...August2019.pdf

A couple of mistakes:

Lifetime +1 still listed on 225.
Prime Video not added to 228.

They've also deleted Talking Pictures TV from below the Sky Cinema SD section on the Desktop version. Clumsy update as usual.

RichardCoulter 01-08-2019 13:17

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 36004683)
They've also deleted Talking Pictures TV from below the Sky Cinema SD section on the Desktop version. Clumsy update as usual.

I hope that really is an error and that it's not coming off VM.

cheekyangus 01-08-2019 14:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
I forget where I read it and who mentioned it (it may have been on the official VM forums) with regards to Yesterday returning to Catch-Up, so sorry I can't credit them or thank them for pointing it out, but when I looked to see myself I was surprised how much was there. More than Yesterday previously had before the UKTV dispute.

The only channel, on the BBC side of the UKTV split, not on Catch-Up is now Eden.

And I see Sky Catch-up seems to be HD-only now, certainly for those shows I looked at. It wasn't for the few NBCU channels ones I checked, so it's not a sweeping Comcast change... yet.

Media Boy UK 01-08-2019 15:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36004685)
I hope that really is an error and that it's not coming off VM.

Channel was still broadcasting as of 12pm today.

SonicMaster 01-08-2019 17:45

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36004692)
I forget where I read it and who mentioned it (it may have been on the official VM forums) with regards to Yesterday returning to Catch-Up, so sorry I can't credit them or thank them for pointing it out, but when I looked to see myself I was surprised how much was there. More than Yesterday previously had before the UKTV dispute.

That was me, glad you're pleased!

cheekyangus 01-08-2019 19:03

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36004715)
That was me, glad you're pleased!

I am, it will be very useful. Many thanks. :)

cheekyangus 05-08-2019 09:05

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
There's an additional HD channel showing on Tsid101/CO56 on DigitalBitRate, New Sans Nom PID1. It also seems to be a version of BBC1 and the V-PID is the same as the one I previously mentioned on that multiplex.

Based on JJ20X on Forumbox saying there's a lot of legacy local TV region variation stuff needing tidied up, brought onto one multiplex and the like, at least that's my interpretation of what they've said recently, then I don't think there's anything to get excited about. Though getting the network in tip top shape may lead to more interesting services in the future.

SonicMaster 05-08-2019 13:18

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
VM has now replaced the BT Sport 4K UHD logo with the new BT Sport Ultimate logo in the Guide, but they haven't yet updated TCM, TCM HD and TCM +1 to TCM Movies, TCM Movies HD and TCM Movies +1.

cheekyangus 05-08-2019 16:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36004980)
VM has now replaced the BT Sport 4K UHD logo with the new BT Sport Ultimate logo in the Guide, but they haven't yet updated TCM, TCM HD and TCM +1 to TCM Movies, TCM Movies HD and TCM Movies +1.

Let's hope some rebel in VM "forgets" to change the TCM one. Turner Classic Movies Movies is daft.

SonicMaster 05-08-2019 18:48

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
The corrections have now been made to the Channel Guide for August, with Lifetime +1 removed, Amazon Prime Video added, and Talking Pictures TV which went missing from the desktop version restored.


Desktop: https://www.virginmedia.com/content/...gust2019V2.pdf
Mobile: https://www.virginmedia.com/content/...gust2019V2.pdf

Media Boy UK 05-08-2019 23:01

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Confirmed: Virgin Media UK axe Sky Sports on V Boxes.

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...039520#M179966

Talk about it on Cable Forum @

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...7#post36005027

Media Boy UK 07-08-2019 13:36

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Comcast has now rebrand their UK Network of channels (Not own by Sky).

Movies 24, Universal Channel and E! is now own by "NBC Universal Global Networks UK Limited".

It was called "NBCUniversal International Networks".

Scource: Ofcom.

cheekyangus 07-08-2019 13:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36005191)
Comcast has now rebrand their UK Network of channels (Not own by Sky).

Movies 24, Universal Channel and E! is now own by "NBC Universal Global Networks UK Limited".

It was called "NBCUniversal International Networks".

Scource: Ofcom.

There's clearly a legal reason for this sort of thing, it isn't something the viewers will normally notice, it doesn't affect channel names which they would notice.

Likely the same reason the Sony channels moved under the Columbia name in the last year.

Media Boy UK 07-08-2019 14:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Since last week I have found Universal TV is broadcast ads for shows on Sky branded channels (Sky Atlantic). I have just started to watch things dated May 2019.

OLD BOY 07-08-2019 14:51

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36005203)
Since last week I have found Universal TV is broadcast ads for shows on Sky branded channels (Sky Atlantic). I have just started to watch things dated May 2019.

I thought the idea of recordings was to skip the ads, MB! :D

Media Boy UK 07-08-2019 14:53

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Rumour: An new channel set to launch on Virgin Media UK?

An new Channel maybe set to launch (Sources: JJ20X/Forum Box)

https://www.forumbox.co.uk/forum/thr...work/?pageNo=3

See post #82

---------- Post added at 14:53 ---------- Previous post was at 14:51 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36005206)
I thought the idea of recordings was to skip the ads, MB! :D

Since MPEG4 started I miss parts coming on and I need to go back the last ad.

OLD BOY 07-08-2019 14:58

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36005207)
Rumour: An new Set to launch on Virgin Media UK?

An new Channel maybe set to launch (Sources: JJ20X/Forum Box)

https://www.forumbox.co.uk/forum/thr...work/?pageNo=3

See post #82

---------- Post added at 14:53 ---------- Previous post was at 14:51 ----------



Since MPEG4 started I miss parts coming on and I need to go back the last ad.

I doubt that this will be of any great significance, MB.

Media Boy UK 07-08-2019 15:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36005211)
I doubt that this will be of any great significance, MB.

We are waiting on more info coming via DBR.

Aguero9320 07-08-2019 16:02

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Here’s a screenshot of the said channel:

http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ve=209&lang=fr

Media Boy UK 07-08-2019 16:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36005229)
Here’s a screenshot of the said channel:

http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ve=209&lang=fr

JJ20X says that just BBC One HD moving soon to an new stream. (Info from JJ20X/ Forum Box).

---------- Post added at 16:07 ---------- Previous post was at 16:06 ----------

https://www.forumbox.co.uk/forum/thr...work/?pageNo=3

See #77 on link.

vincerooney 07-08-2019 17:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36005196)
There's clearly a legal reason for this sort of thing, it isn't something the viewers will normally notice, it doesn't affect channel names which they would notice.

Likely the same reason the Sony channels moved under the Columbia name in the last year.

Wait does Comcast own NBC?

Legendkiller2k 07-08-2019 18:27

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36005248)
Wait does Comcast own NBC?

Yes.

Mad Max 07-08-2019 19:25

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36005229)
Here’s a screenshot of the said channel:

http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ve=209&lang=fr



Can't wait.....:rolleyes:

Media Boy UK 08-08-2019 06:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Digital Bit Rate is reporting that Virgin Media UK has started E! HD tests.

vincerooney 08-08-2019 16:32

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Hello fans

Any idea where I can get a list of virgin media channels. My friend has gone from medium to XL and I want to brag about the extra channels he now has but he’s claiming he can’t spot the difference

cheekyangus 08-08-2019 16:44

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36005343)
Hello fans

Any idea where I can get a list of virgin media channels. My friend has gone from medium to XL and I want to brag about the extra channels he now has but he’s claiming he can’t spot the difference

Here you go.
https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...-channel-guide

There's obviously the web version here, and at the bottom, if you scroll right down, there's both a mobile and desktop pdf downloadable version.

Ultimate.Conj 08-08-2019 16:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36005343)
Hello fans

Any idea where I can get a list of virgin media channels. My friend has gone from medium to XL and I want to brag about the extra channels he now has but he’s claiming he can’t spot the difference

Most are probably the HD variations haha :D

Media Boy UK 11-08-2019 17:22

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
JJ20X via Forum Box did reveal on Thursday that:

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ20X via Forum Box (Post 36005294)
The additional BT Sport 1 HD and E! HD take up the first two of the three vacant slots discovered yesterday.

We are betting on that final vacant slot going to CNBC HD.

We also feel E! HD will launch on August 15th. (Base on past tests).

vincerooney 11-08-2019 17:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36005761)
JJ20X via Forum Box did reveal on Thursday that:



We are betting on that final vacant slot going to CNBC HD.

We also feel E! HD will launch on August 15th. (Base on past tests).

why are BT sport 1 HD getting another HD channel then they already have one...

Media Boy UK 11-08-2019 17:43

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36005762)
why are BT sport 1 HD getting another HD channel then they already have one...

We are waiting on more information coming in via DBR or Forum Box about that new BT Sport 1 HD Channel that appeared on Thursday.

But Media Boy HQ is starting to think it for EPL Football to broadcast in Northern Ireland on Saturdays at 3pm (That all we can think of).

jfman 11-08-2019 18:45

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
I’d be surprised if Northern Ireland got the 3pm kick offs. While no rule prevents it, or in Wales for that matter, these games haven’t been available digitally on cable or Sky in NI.

Back in the day the free to air terrestrial broadcasts were available from RTE but that was it.

Media Boy UK 11-08-2019 18:57

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36005771)
I’d be surprised if Northern Ireland got the 3pm kick offs. While no rule prevents it, or in Wales for that matter, these games haven’t been available digitally on cable or Sky in NI.

Back in the day the free to air terrestrial broadcasts were available from RTE but that was it.

JJ20X via Forum Box thinks -
Quote:

(New BT Sport 1 HD) would be rights to Irish sporting events across the island of Ireland.
JJ20X is also reporting on Forum Box that the new BT Sport 1 HD channel has been given Channel 527 (The same as the one we have right now).

---------- Post added at 18:57 ---------- Previous post was at 18:56 ----------

So that is why we are waiting on more information coming in via DBR or Forum Box about that new BT Sport 1 HD Channel that appeared on Thursday.

jfman 11-08-2019 19:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
I’d be happy to be proven wrong. :)

Mad Max 11-08-2019 19:39

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36005771)
I’d be surprised if Northern Ireland got the 3pm kick offs. While no rule prevents it, or in Wales for that matter, these games haven’t been available digitally on cable or Sky in NI.

Back in the day the free to air terrestrial broadcasts were available from RTE but that was it.


Me too, highly unlikely.

Aguero9320 11-08-2019 19:41

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
I’m surprised the remaining +1’s, Sky News Arabia and Sky Racing HD are not part of the deal.

denphone 11-08-2019 19:45

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36005779)
I’m surprised the remaining +1’s, Sky News Arabia and Sky Racing HD are not part of the deal.

The Sky Racing SD channel has dreadful PQ.

Media Boy UK 11-08-2019 19:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36005779)
I’m surprised the remaining +1’s, Sky News Arabia and Sky Racing HD are not part of the deal.

After that other BT Sport 1 HD and E! HD only one vacant slot is confirmed but that do not mean that Virgin Media UK has added more vacant slots that JJ20X or anyone else do not know of.

For talking sake at time of posting (Source JJ20X/Forum Box.):

01. BT Sport 1 HD
02. E! HD
03. vacant
04. Sky Sports Red Button

---------- Post added at 19:55 ---------- Previous post was at 19:52 ----------

For all we know maybe that vacant slot may become Sky Sports Racing HD but everyone has forgot Comcast also own CNBC HD.

RichardCoulter 11-08-2019 20:09

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36005779)
I’m surprised the remaining +1’s, Sky News Arabia and Sky Racing HD are not part of the deal.

Me too, I thought that Pick +1 and Sky 1 +1 would have been added. Are we missing any other Sky channels now (apart from SA)? I believe that Sky have sold off Sky Poker.

Media Boy UK 11-08-2019 20:12

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Also Sky News Arabia is only 50% own by Sky.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_News_Arabia

Raider999 11-08-2019 20:13

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36005783)
After that other BT Sport 1 HD and E! HD only one vacant slot is confirmed but that do not mean that Virgin Media UK has added more vacant slots that JJ20X or anyone else do not know of.

For talking sake at time of posting (Source JJ20X/Forum Box.):

01. BT Sport 1 HD
02. E! HD
03. vacant
04. Sky Sports Red Button

---------- Post added at 19:55 ---------- Previous post was at 19:52 ----------

For all we know maybe that vacant slot may become Sky Sports Racing HD but everyone has forgot Comcast also own CNBC HD.

Does that mean we will be able to record SS red button coverage? If so it is about time, you have been able to do this on sky for years!

Media Boy UK 11-08-2019 20:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36005796)
Does that mean we will be able to record SS red button coverage? If so it is about time, you have been able to do this on sky for years!

No idea at time of posting but we do know (Source DBR) that Virgin Media are set to move Sky Sports Red Button Channels soon to an new stream.

vincerooney 11-08-2019 21:40

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36005798)
No idea at time of posting but we do know (Source DBR) that Virgin Media are set to move Sky Sports Red Button Channels soon to an new stream.

Any idea then the sky contract starts? With sports in UHD do we expect the SD sky sports channels to be removed in order to fit in UHD versions?

jfman 11-08-2019 21:57

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
There is, as always, plenty of space floating about in any case to squeeze in the UHD channel.

Media Boy UK 11-08-2019 22:08

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36005816)
Any idea then the sky contract starts? With sports in UHD do we expect the SD sky sports channels to be removed in order to fit in UHD versions?

We think that new Sky contract did start on August 1st when Sky Cinema want HD only.

Any Sky UHD Channel will NOT launch until 2020 on Virgin Media.

OLD BOY 12-08-2019 07:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36005816)
Any idea then the sky contract starts? With sports in UHD do we expect the SD sky sports channels to be removed in order to fit in UHD versions?

Next year, but when next year has not been announced.

https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...d-the-industry

denphone 12-08-2019 07:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36005831)
Next year, but when next year has notbeen announced.

https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...d-the-industry

Just before they announce a new price rise l suspect.

Raider999 12-08-2019 22:43

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36005816)
Any idea then the sky contract starts? With sports in UHD do we expect the SD sky sports channels to be removed in order to fit in UHD versions?

As far as I am aware there is only 1 sky sports UHD channel - not a UHD version of each.

Ultimate.Conj 13-08-2019 12:00

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36005903)
As far as I am aware there is only 1 sky sports UHD channel - not a UHD version of each.

I think you are right Raider. When I last saw the Sky Q box, there wasn't a dedicated UHD movie channel either. The UHD content was accessed on via UHD on-demand section.

Might have changed since I last saw though.

ozsat 13-08-2019 14:26

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Sky can do two UHD transmissions at once.

There are no UHD channels in their EPG and the occasional programmes in UHD are selected via the red button or via menu. These are always live programmes and usually sport.

All UHD movies and non-live programme are downloaded.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36005903)
As far as I am aware there is only 1 sky sports UHD channel - not a UHD version of each.


RichardCoulter 13-08-2019 15:51

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Be interesting to see whether VM will want to create a linear channel with the Sky content or if it will also be via VOD.

OLD BOY 13-08-2019 16:08

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36005943)
Be interesting to see whether VM will want to create a linear channel with the Sky content or if it will also be via VOD.

I suspect there will be a red button for live tv and an option to see the UHD on demand, but just guessing.

RichardCoulter 13-08-2019 17:12

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36005947)
I suspect there will be a red button for live tv and an option to see the UHD on demand, but just guessing.

Yes, I suspect that Sky won't want it to differ from their own service by letting VM claim to have more UHD channels.

cheekyangus 13-08-2019 17:22

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
My theory was that the multiple 3rd party HD channels closing over the last year on Sky (e.g. TCM HD recently) was because Sky want their transponder space back to launch linear UHD channels, channels that are still to launch. I was under the impression that they are launching them in the New Year when VM is due to get Sky's UHD content, so VM would have them from launch. Certainly the impression I got from the wording of the Sky/VM press release.

RichardCoulter 13-08-2019 18:09

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36005950)
My theory was that the multiple 3rd party HD channels closing over the last year on Sky (e.g. TCM HD recently) was because Sky want their transponder space back to launch linear UHD channels, channels that are still to launch. I was under the impression that they are launching them in the New Year when VM is due to get Sky's UHD content, so VM would have them from launch. Certainly the impression I got from the wording of the Sky/VM press release.

Could well be, but Sky also helped to pay for one of the Astra satellites and in return received up to a 50% discount on capacity for a time. It's been speculated that this was for 20 years which, if correct, would be round about now. This will have been how Sky could incentivise channels to launch and go behind the Sky paywall ie they could offer discounted capacity, obtain exclusivity and still make a profit.

jfman 13-08-2019 18:19

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36005952)
Could well be, but Sky also helped to pay for one of the Astra satellites and in return received up to a 50% discount on capacity for a time. It's been speculated that this was for 20 years which, if correct, would be round about now. This will have been how Sky could incentivise channels to launch and go behind the Sky paywall ie they could offer discounted capacity, obtain exclusivity and still make a profit.

Sky renewed deals with SES in 2009.

ozsat 13-08-2019 18:31

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
VM already have more UHD channels.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36005948)
Yes, I suspect that Sky won't want it to differ from their own service by letting VM claim to have more UHD channels.


RichardCoulter 13-08-2019 18:48

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36005953)
Sky renewed deals with SES in 2009.

I'm sure that several new deals have been made over the years.

---------- Post added at 18:48 ---------- Previous post was at 18:47 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36005954)
VM already have more UHD channels.

Well, yes, seeing as Sky currently have none of their own :D

jfman 13-08-2019 18:57

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
I'm sure that the 20 year thing is just an Internet forum myth. You won't find a single source to it.

Nor does it add up, Sky Digital launched in 1998.

Horizon 13-08-2019 19:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
CBS and Viacom announce re-merger to be called ViacomCBS - what a mouthful!:

https://ir.viacom.com/news-releases/...viacom-combine

Webcast at 9.30 tonight our time available from their websites.

muppetman11 13-08-2019 19:58

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Even combined they don't have enough to be a serious player in my opinion.

Horizon 13-08-2019 20:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Indeed, which is why it will be interesting to see what the next merger(s) will be.

ViacomCBS has been talking to Sony about merging with their tv/film unit, but the Japanese aren't interested, so that leaves the MGM library, AMC and John Malone's companies/interests: Discovery, Lionsgate and Starz as the only ones that are left. After that, they'll likely join up with a cable co and/or mobile co like Verizon.

Then, as I've said before on other threads, the tech giants may swoop in and buy all the media companies.

OLD BOY 14-08-2019 08:41

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
It's pretty big all the same. The new company will have some of the most well known brands under its name.

CBS
Showtime
MTV
VH-1
CMT
BET
Nickelodeon
Comedy Central
Paramount
Pluto TV
Network 10 (Australia)
5 (UK)
Pop
Smithsonian Networks
Simon & Schuster
Colours
Telefe
TV Land
VidCon

Sounds pretty big to me. There are bigger companies, of course, but this merger is nonetheless pretty significant.

https://advanced-television.com/2019...acom-to-merge/

muppetman11 14-08-2019 09:40

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Looking at the market caps of both tells you they are far smaller than the likes of Disney and Comcast.

Maybe the merged company will be an acquisition for someone.

RichardCoulter 14-08-2019 12:25

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36005959)
I'm sure that the 20 year thing is just an Internet forum myth. You won't find a single source to it.

Nor does it add up, Sky Digital launched in 1998.

Of course not, this information will have been commercially sensitive. Sky Digital did indeed launch in 1998, I was one of their first customers.

SonicMaster 14-08-2019 12:57

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36005981)
It's pretty big all the same. The new company will have some of the most well known brands under its name.

CBS
Showtime
MTV
VH-1
CMT
BET
Nickelodeon
Comedy Central
Paramount
Pluto TV
Network 10 (Australia)
5 (UK)
Pop
Smithsonian Networks
Simon & Schuster
Colours
Telefe
TV Land
VidCon

Sounds pretty big to me. There are bigger companies, of course, but this merger is nonetheless pretty significant.

https://advanced-television.com/2019...acom-to-merge/

It's good to see Viacom and CBS reuniting after they split up in 2006. It was an odd situation and they will be much stronger back together again.

jfman 14-08-2019 13:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36005992)
Of course not, this information will have been commercially sensitive. Sky Digital did indeed launch in 1998, I was one of their first customers.

Detailed information in long term contracts for public limited companies is commercially sensitive however the fact that they exist is not. It's part of the transparency of good corporate governance.

If this mythical 20(+1) year deal existed I'd expect we would read about it somewhere more credible than internet rumours.

Media Boy UK 14-08-2019 14:13

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
JJ20X on Forum Box is reporting that the following channels has moved to the new stream.

-BBC ONE HD (England)
-ITV HD (Central)
-ITV HD (London)
-ITV HD (Meridian)
-UTV HD

Due to them changed multiplex/frequency you will need to re-Add to your Favourites.

Media Boy UK 15-08-2019 00:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
E! HD is now on Channel 229.

cheekyangus 15-08-2019 08:48

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Possibly nothing...but there are two HD streams on TSid104 (CO33) on DigitalBitRate. One currently with a screengrab of BBC News (or another BBC channel simulcasting it), that started on 13th according to my reading of the graph, the other with Ideal World, which has a graph line only starting today (15th).

The odd thing about all this is that TSid104 has now been removed from the whole VM network overnight according to, the much more knowledgeable than me on this subject, jj20x on Forumbox. He was saying the migration of services completed from that multiplex with the moving of two versions of ITV HD. So what DBR is showing doesn't make a lot of sense.

Looking further down the DBR page there is evidence of the changes jj20x mentions on Forumbox. There are now two versions of TSid 102 (CO57 & CO59). On one version there used to be two versions of ITV, ITV+1,ITV HD, C4, C4+1, C4 HD, C4 AD. Half of those have shut on the CO57 version, but a new ITV HD has been added.

All these removals on CO57 mentioned above have moved to CO59, along with a new version of ITV Wales HD. JJ20X had been talking recently about VM dealing with regional differences in the network in Manchester and Wrexham and this seems to be it. They both have been split into two separate versions of the same multiplex, where they both used to be mostly crammed onto the one multiplex, with another being used for the overspill.

Obviously this all only affects a few VM customers, those in those two regions, but they will have to re-add their Favourites presumably, though I'm guessing it's the mostly customers who get the Wrexham region.

SonicMaster 15-08-2019 13:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
There's a new article in Virgin TV Edit bringing together key highlights from On Demand / Box Sets, Netflix and Amazon Prime Video:

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...me-and-netflix

Prime Video still hasn't been added to the main Search & Discover menu on the V6 though, so not as integrated as it should be.

denphone 15-08-2019 13:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
l suspect given time Prime Video will eventually be integrated into the Search & Discover menu on the V6.

SonicMaster 15-08-2019 13:51

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Eventually... sigh.

Like they will eventually get around to updating the TCM logos that Sky and BT managed to do immediately. They have even added E! HD with 2 different logos on both the TV Guide and the website, neither of which are the same as on Sky and BT.

It's classic VM 😂

OLD BOY 15-08-2019 19:23

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36006059)
l suspect given time Prime Video will eventually be integrated into the Search & Discover menu on the V6.

It already does, Den. It's the UHD it can't seem to access for some reason. When you do a search, only the HD version comes up. I understand that they are working on this.

---------- Post added at 19:23 ---------- Previous post was at 19:22 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36006060)
Eventually... sigh.

Like they will eventually get around to updating the TCM logos that Sky and BT managed to do immediately. They have even added E! HD with 2 different logos on both the TV Guide and the website, neither of which are the same as on Sky and BT.

It's classic VM 😂

Personally, I'm not worried about the logos. But the Amazon search glitch needs fixing as soon as possible.

fox35 15-08-2019 20:27

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
[QUOTE=OLD BOY;36006176]It already does, Den. It's the UHD it can't seem to access for some reason. When you do a search, only the HD version comes up. I understand that they are working on this.[COLOR="Silver"]

Is the OP not referring to the "Search & Discover" sub menu on the "Home" Page? A Prime Video header ideally should be listed in there surely, along side Netflix and YouTube.
I find the generic "Search" facility a bit hit and miss regarding Prime content. I always use Primes own search within the app anyway.

SonicMaster 15-08-2019 20:51

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
[QUOTE=fox35;36006190]
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36006176)
It already does, Den. It's the UHD it can't seem to access for some reason. When you do a search, only the HD version comes up. I understand that they are working on this.[COLOR="Silver"]

Is the OP not referring to the "Search & Discover" sub menu on the "Home" Page? A Prime Video header ideally should be listed in there surely, along side Netflix and YouTube.
I find the generic "Search" facility a bit hit and miss regarding Prime content. I always use Primes own search within the app anyway.

That's correct.

OLD BOY 16-08-2019 09:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
[QUOTE=fox35;36006190]
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36006176)
It already does, Den. It's the UHD it can't seem to access for some reason. When you do a search, only the HD version comes up. I understand that they are working on this.[COLOR="Silver"]

Is the OP not referring to the "Search & Discover" sub menu on the "Home" Page? A Prime Video header ideally should be listed in there surely, along side Netflix and YouTube.
I find the generic "Search" facility a bit hit and miss regarding Prime content. I always use Primes own search within the app anyway.

I was referring to Virgin's 'search and discover' page. Prime programmes do come up when you search for them, but it's only the HD version that appears.

Whether or not programmes are missing, I don't know as I've only searched for one or two programmes on Prime this way because I'm waiting for that UHD fix. However, those programmes I have searched for do appear. Maybe they are still adding stuff now - Amazon hasn't been on the platform for long. I notice that some Netflix shows don't appear immediately.

cheekyangus 16-08-2019 09:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
If VM are moving over to the Horizon platform soon I don't see them putting the time, money and effort to fix the Amazon search thing on Tivo, they'll leave it be and just make sure it works on Horizon.

OLD BOY 16-08-2019 09:53

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36006217)
If VM are moving over to the Horizon platform soon I don't see them putting the time, money and effort to fix the Amazon search thing on Tivo, they'll leave it be and just make sure it works on Horizon.

I can live with that if it's planned for this year, but I don't think they should wait for Horizon if they don't have a short time frame until launch. We still don't have a date and I suspect we will still be waiting this time next year.

cheekyangus 16-08-2019 10:46

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36006225)
I can live with that if it's planned for this year, but I don't think they should wait for Horizon if they don't have a short time frame until launch. We still don't have a date and I suspect we will still be waiting this time next year.

I'd got the impression there may be trials/soft launch at end of this year with aim to launch next year.

What I was reading to get this impression I can't remember. :D

I may be in my own wee world... :p:

RegularCapital 16-08-2019 15:02

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
From what I understand, Virgin still wants to use TiVo for the backend and data and use the Horizon User Interface on top of it, from what I heard Liberty Global are working with TiVo in order to do this.

https://www.multichannel.com/blog/vi...-report-418549

Knowing that Liberty Global have been mass-selling their European assets to Vodafone and to other companies (also Liberty and Vodafone co-owns Vodafone Ziggo in the Netherlands), it seems that Horizon's software (as in the backend that powers the UI) could eventually be scrapped. The V6 box's remote has TiVo's patented thumbs up and thumbs down buttons and its said that the box will eventually use the new UI, so I don't think they're going to remove TiVo's key features. So Virgin will be able to incorporate Amazon's library in the search as only the "shell" of the software and how its presented will be changed.

It seems that Liberty Global want to focus on the UK and Irish market, selling most of the European assets and the funds raised from the transaction will allow them to expand Virgin's network.

fox35 16-08-2019 15:39

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RegularCapital (Post 36006242)
From what I understand, Virgin still wants to use TiVo for the backend and data and use the Horizon User Interface on top of it, from what I heard Liberty Global are working with TiVo in order to do this.

https://www.multichannel.com/blog/vi...-report-418549

Knowing that Liberty Global have been mass-selling their European assets to Vodafone and to other companies (also Liberty and Vodafone co-owns Vodafone Ziggo in the Netherlands), it seems that Horizon's software (as in the backend that powers the UI) could eventually be scrapped. The V6 box's remote has TiVo's patented thumbs up and thumbs down buttons and its said that the box will eventually use the new UI, so I don't think they're going to remove TiVo's key features. So Virgin will be able to incorporate Amazon's library in the search as only the "shell" of the software and how its presented will be changed.

It seems that Liberty Global want to focus on the UK and Irish market, selling most of the European assets and the funds raised from the transaction will allow them to expand Virgin's network.

Indeed, in much the same way that Sky Q uses Tivo software, under license, buried deep within its own firmware operation. So, I'm guessing features which are similar on both VM and Sky boxes, such as Series Link and the Search facilities etc, are Tivo patented and used under agreement. Just a different branded UI.

RichardCoulter 16-08-2019 18:03

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fox35 (Post 36006246)
Indeed, in much the same way that Sky Q uses Tivo software, under license, buried deep within its own firmware operation. So, I'm guessing features which are similar on both VM and Sky boxes, such as Series Link and the Search facilities etc, are Tivo patented and used under agreement. Just a different branded UI.

It's interesting that TiVo are prepared to do business with Sky after Sky screwed them over all those years ago, but I suppose with the passage of time, there are now different people involved.

Do you know if this means that TiVo patented features such as Wishlists, Quickview & Thumbs up/down could now theoretically be utilised on Sky Q boxes? This is one of the things that would put me off from moving over to Sky.

I don't think that Series Link & the search capabilities can be patented as the V+ (and many other boxes) had/have these features.


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:08.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum