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Lol. :D

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I want to see the next picture, mainly to see if that thing on the Donald's head is affected by static

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Republicans are still winning, despite the winning candidate being arrested for lashing out and hitting a Guardian reporter... Despite Bernie Sanders coming to the State to heavily support the Democrat Candidate and try and garner more votes for Quist and more importantly, despite, Donald J. Trump being the President and all the apparent issues/memos/misconceptions/accusations, swirling his Presidency.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...ml#commentsDiv

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As 2/3rds of the votes had been cast before the assault, it's unlikely to have made much difference to the result.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox...ecial-election The winning candidate has some interesting views on retirement...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nl_most&wpmm=1

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It's also a state that's gone from +20 Republican to +7 Republican. If that swing where replicated nationwide the Democrats would retake the house in 2018. The Republicans winning Montana is like the Democrats winning LA. These aren't places the election is decided.

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As the Independent said, the Dems had wanted to turn it blue and as it was not a major election, voter apathy probably resides cannot really rely on poll swings when it is not a major election event.

But Dems expected the State to go blue with all the issues I said above with so called memos/misconceptions/firings/Accusations/investigations swirling the White House.

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The Democrats did want it to go blue. I don't think they realistically expected it but they thought there was a decent chance. In that sense their optimism has been checked.

We'll see in 2018. It's a tough ask for the Democrats then because this cycle is unkind to them in terms of the seats that will be up for election but Republicans should at least look at Montana with caution. +7/8 will be a relief for them considering how dire people thought it might be but it's still a dramatic drop.

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Comedy gold ..

Watch President Trump push a prime minister aside

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Be more funnier if they were to all deck the arrogant idiot.

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Yes, because violence is the answer to everything. Come on now Gary. You support Corbyn and he absolutely hates violence, allegedly.

And a week on from when it actually happened, some say he had his foot stood on, people say you see him grimace, pats the Montenegro PM on back and comes forward. Others have said he was called forward because he is the U.S President. So many things I have heard happened, not sure which one to believe but what I do know is... The Montenegro PM was not that bothered by it when he was asked about it days later.

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Anyone in doubt that he's making it up as he goes along should have had them removed now

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/31/u...ssia.html?_r=0

Still I suppose making words up rather than simply admitting a spelling error detracts from other more serious stuff

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Spicy knew exactly what that word meant ;)

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Yes it's true that Noah et al didn't retire but neither were they in paid work in the same way either. And after the flood we don't read much about Noah. He planted a vineyard, made wine and got drunk. The Bible simply says Gen 9:28-9 "After the flood Noah lived for 350 years and died at the age of 950"

What I think is true is that when you do get to "retire" that shouldn't mean that you simply stop. There are things to be done and I don't mean just tending your garden.

When my dad retired he seemed busier than when not. He did enjoy himself going on holidays and the like but also "worked", preparing Bible studies, preaching, looking after the garden and house but a lot of time caring for people, usually involving food.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7767436.html

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I think when you start talking about what someone did when they reached the age of 600, you have probably lost most of your audience ..

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Don't worry; I'm still here :)

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I agree. Do people really still believe that nonsense?

Still, if it's in the Bible, I guess it must be true.

Yeh, right!

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Well, judging by this conversation, you've still got another 920 years in you yet, PB!

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Many believe that it is true and know that it is not nonsense

You can count on it being true.


If more people were aware of what the Bible says, especially about the end time period, they would have a greater understanding of the trends (globalism and the attack on the sovereign state for example.) that are happening in the world today.

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Where's the Hitch when you need him? ;) I guess Sam Harris will have to do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSdGr4K4qLg

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Trump live "Time to exit the Paris accord"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvsTIsPmyic

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People like Trump better hope that their belief that this is all a con will eventually be vindicated because if not history will treat them very unkindly.

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He has not totally closed the door to be fair. He wants the deal renegotiated so that it doesn't cost so many American jobs. He said he don't agree with China being allowed to build more Coal Stations for next 13 years and America not being allowed to build none.

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Admittedly he is correct in that the Paris accord penalises the US and other developed countries.

It will be interesting how he gets around article 28 though.

Link

As the Paris Climate Accord was only signed last year by the US then it can only legally withdraw in 2020 at the earliest.

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I see Theresa has expressed her 'disappointment' (to who, the Downing St. cat?). Way to go girl, bet the president is quaking in his sneakers at her disappointment. She should grow a pair and withdraw his Royal visit; that would scupper his golfing plans and probably make him change his mind.

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I said this to someone else. If Trump ignores both his daughter and U.S Secretary of State, to remain in the Paris Accord, what chances do you think a British Prime Minister has ?

End of day, this should be no surprise, he said he was going to do it on campaign trail.

Let's also blame Barack Obama for not sealing the deal, by not gaining Senate approval that would have stopped Trump doing what he has done.

Let's also say he has not closed the door. He wants to protect America's interests but wants the Paris accord renegotiated.

I also don't see you having a go at China, them being allowed to continue building Coal stations for next 13 years, no wonder Trump is pissed off with the deal. It could be put back on table but you have Macron in Paris, Merkel in Germany, completely objecting to any new negotiation. Don't know about anyone else but I'm already getting fed up of hearing Merkels feelings, it's like she has something to say nearly every day.

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I don't think he'll have much success renegotiating, he hasn't exactly reaching out to American's international allies during the last few months. The tough talk against the likes of Germany may play well domestically but it both limits those countries willingness to make concessions as well as reducing their political scope for doing so even if they wanted it too.

So I think America's participation in this agreement is dead for now.

I also wonder what exactly is in it for us considering the way May has put herself out there for him. Flying over so soon after the election, the very quick offer of a State Visit and refusing to sign yesterday's condemnation. She is being loyal so far but she must expect some sort of reward for doing so. Personally I think he'll throw us and May under the bus if there is any sort of political advantage in doing so but we'll see....

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Trade deal?

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Yes. It's what we're all assuming.

But such things are hard to negotiate and require concessions. I am not sure I see Trump signing anything where any element of it could be considered as making a concession. It will largely be negotiated by congress all of whom will want to protect industries in their own states.

I am wary of the whole thing.

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You should be wary, it's not like America have a history of pushing smaller countries around in trade deals is it

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I imagine that a lot of the people who voted for him are wondering what he has actually done to improve things for them.

He professes to defend and uphold the constitution but then takes actions that violate it.

He gets rid of Obamacare but has not put anything in its place so what do poor people needing medical help do.

I wonder too what action he is taking to provide more jobs for the unemployed who voted for him especially as reports indicate the number of new jobs created is fewer than expected.

And what had happened to the Mexican Wall designed to keep illegal Mexican immigrants from getting into the country?

Trump is a loose cannon in the White House and seems to be operating the policy according to Donald Trump.

He seems to be pulling out of national agreements and wants to renegotiate them and wants to throw his weight around with other world leaders.

I wonder where it will all lead.

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Disappointment.

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I was thinking more that he may get impeached by his own party for failing to deal with the basic issues on which he based his campaign and for attempting to undermine the Constitution. Buy you are right, a lot of his supporters are likely to be disappointed and to some extent disadvantaged.

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I'm curious, what actions has he took to violate it exactly ?

Last time I looked it had not been replaced yet. Do you think as it stands $1500+ increases per month are worth it ? These are costs my U.S pals are seeing and I can tell you now, they're pissed off and cannot wait for it to be gone in it's current form.

Wow, you expect a large wall, thousands of miles long to be built in a few months?

National agreements that made no sense, China is allowed to build more coal power stations and can do so for next 13 years. USA can build 0 :Where is the fairness? Anyway, as I mentioned a few days ago, we can partly blame Obama, for not getting the deal passed through the Senate which would have stopped Trump from withdrawing from it.

Let the USA worry about Trump. In a few days, we could have real set of incompetent clowns running the show right here in UK, should Dumb and Dumber and Dumbest (Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott) get in power.

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Well the bill before the senate is largely going to see it gone. They can raise premiums for pre-existing conditions and they can set lifetime limits on how much the insurer will ever pay out per year or over the person's life. They will now also be allowed to charge older patients more. The payments made to help the poorest people get coverage will be reduced as will the taxes implemented by Obamacare.

The main thing that remains is coverage on your parents' policy until age 26.

It will be cheaper for young people and more expensive for old people in general as a result. In other words the cost will be more closely linked to how healthy you are as it was before Obamacare.

So Obamacare will largely be gone.

And of course the Congressional Budget Office estimates 23 million people will be priced out of, or denied, health insurance: https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52752

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He issued executive orders banning immigration from countries believed to have terrorist links which were deemed illegal by a number of judges.

I understand that Obamacare had its faults and was expensive but cancelling it before its replacement leaves thousands of Americans without recourse to healthcare.

As for the wall, I realize that it is a long term project but given Trump's propensity for using social media it would be possible to give progress reports to re-assure his supporters that progress is being made.

As for the power stations,the US could build as many gas power stations as it wants and tackle the issue of climate change at the same time without the need for coal.

Given that I live in the UK, I'm happy to let the USA worry about Donald Trump because as you rightly say we in the UK have a number of problem politicians of our own regrettably.

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Yet there was other judges who said the travel ban was legal so whose right ?

Let's not forget the list of countries on ban list was a list compiled by the Obama Administration.

But he has not violated the Constitution, in fact one could say the Constitution says the President can stop entry in to the U.S if it is deemed necessary. It's just some judges felt his previous pledge to shut down all Muslims entering the Country and linked his Executive Order to this and thus, blocked it, a second one was then later halted too. So this has now been referred to Supreme Court. There are 5 Republican Supreme Court Judges and only 4 Democrats, thus they could over rule previous court ruling currently blocking Trump's Travel ban.

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Trump is showing the world his well honed abilities to p**s off his allies:

Pathetic excuse by London Mayor Sadiq Khan who had to think fast on his "no reason to be alarmed" statement. MSM is working hard to sell it!

Imagine if the PM had attacked the Mayor of New York in this way after 9/11 ...

The man is a prize clown. Some good news, we do have an official directive to ignore the idiot:

Kellyanne Conway Says Media Should Stop Covering Donald Trump’s Tweets

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You're not doing a good job of ignoring him, moaning about him.

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Glad that you equate me with the Media, I am flattered :)

So you agree with him then? Is he right to criticise the Mayor of London?

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All patriotic Brits should condemn Trump's cynical tweets about London's Lord Mayor and I urge you to join me in doing so.

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Sorry, don't do requests and I don't do urges either.

I am no fan of the current useless, Mayor of London and I know many other patriotic Brits who would not come to his defense either.

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No they are not.


Two lists here; one for 50 days in and one for 100 days in. The 50 day list contains things not in the 100 days list hence both lists (plus the 50 day list comes from Andrew's favourite web site ;))


Southern border illegal immigration is now down 70% since Trump took office.


Scroll down a bit on the 100 day list to get to the actual list.


https://www.infowars.com/trumps-acco...first-50-days/


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...irst-100-days/

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No one's asking you or indeed anyone else for that matter to support one of London's most popular mayors.
I'm just urging you to condemn the picking up a feud with the Mayor of London at the time of our country's greatest need.

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Not a chance, I can't stand the man, he is a liar, like some others who reside in his party.

I would also have to contest the popular part, he has far from delivered on the promises he made during his Mayoral Election.

Besides, he has said some controversial stuff, especially, while in the U.S, like those who live in big cities should come to expect, terrorism, saying it like it's some part and parcel of life. I think he said this when there was an explosion in New York. I would say this was a tad insensitive. So he is no angel himself. So fancy him saying that, while New York was in their hour of need. He also took side swipes at Candidate Trump while he was there.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world...-a3347891.html

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It is out of order for the head of another country to use the terrroist attack as a chance to have a go at an elected official here but that's Trump for you. He isn't endearing themselves to Londoners ahead of his state visit.

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Ahh InfoWars. Where the little girls who were murdered by a terrorist at 'liberal trendies'. I remember pre-Trump when they believed terrorist attacks were false flag operations by the Western government, remarkable how they're now the number one threat to civilisation.

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He's in good company with the donald then, what is deliberate misinterpretation if it isn't an attempt to lie and deceive and I'd say Kahn is quite popular, he won the popular vote after all which is something old trumped up couldn't manage, perhaps that's why he doesn't like him.

He's a class act and if corbyn turned round and said if elected he'd cancel his state visit I'd vote for him, actually if any of them promised that it'd secure my vote, I'd even vote kipper again

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Enough about Trump, what about Mayor Khan? ;)

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I am no fan of infowars. Alex Jones' voice and rants are enough to put me off! But the lists are what they are; Trumps achievements.


Strangely enough, I did watch this the other day about Bohemian Grove. Apparently, it is referenced in the latest season of House of cards, which I haven't started watching yet. It is a joint Channel 4/Infowars production, from 17 years ago where they infiltrated the Bohemian Grove yearly bash of some of the elites, where they meddle with the occult; mock human sacrifice etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPjGJ9PufaQ

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I still think it's a mistake for May to believe that Trump is anything other than a self-serving narcissist who'll throw the UK under the bus the moment he perceives that doing so will serve his own interests even in the most minor way. Look how the White House didn't dismiss, in fact even helped amplify, the allegations that GCHQ was hacking him on behalf of Obama.

A terrorist attack occurs in London and he tweets abuse directed at the Mayor of London and misquotes him. Yet London is still meant to roll out the red carpet for this guy?

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It's not a joint Infowars production. It's probably their own documentary that they cut in C4 stuff.

I am a big fan of the author that went in with him to Bohemian Grove, Jon Ronson, and he disputes a lot of Alex Jones account. It was actually Ronson who was the reason they went in as he was researching for the book 'Them', and it's worth reading.

Alex Jones has changed a lot. His big break come from the 9/11 truther movement that said it was a false flag. He and Paul Jospeh Watson, who I am assuming you'll also be familiar with, spent their time in that world. It's strange to now those conspiracies have shifted to believing that these attacks are real (which of course they are). They've successfully latched onto this alt-right movement and were big proponents of the Obama birther stuff. It's an interesting dynamic.

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The documentary shows the channel 4 people actually with Alex jones and the 0ccult ritual was filmed. Have you actually seen the documentary that I posted?

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I didn't watch the video you've just posted but I am well aware of the documentary Channel 4 did with Alex Jones and Bohemian Grove.

Alex Jones was the subject of their documentary, but he wasn't otherwise involved with the production. It was Jon Ronson who was making that documentary and writing his book. It was an episode of this documentary series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Se...adowy_Elite.3F and Infowars are not involved in the production of that documentary series.

Here is the documentary they made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0p-e2ng0SI

Now Alex Jones was probably doing this own one whilst they were filming but the production doesn't involve Channel 4, they're there because they were filming the one I've linked to above.

The documentary you've linked is not produced by Channel 4. It's Infowars alone.

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Misrepresenting my posts tut tut. :rolleyes:

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What? It was an attempt at humour? Nothing was misrepresented.

Trumps recent tweets not only about London but other things show just how much of a self serving totally bully and loat he actually is.

Taking part of a quote and taking it out of context. Not once but twice. I thought was just dumb. However that shows him to be rather spiteful and a silly man.

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I watched that documentary the other; it was alongside the one I posted as related.


The Infowars one I linked to, which included CH4 camera men is a different kettle of fish. It shows (on film) that some elites are involved with the Occult in mock human sacrifice, summoning un-godly spirits.


This shouldn't surprise us; Sir Francis Bacon and the New Atlantians consulted angels, which would mean, in fact, fallen angels. They became associated with the highest ranks of the Scottish Rite Freemasons, which today are the 33rd degree Masons. Regular Masons are unaware of this aspect.


There is a detailed analysis of the connections between 33 degree masons, the occult, some of America's Founding father's and the NWO here. The videos mentioned in the article can be found on Youtube


https://www.newswithviews.com/Horn/thomas110.htm

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Rubbish. I should know what was misrepresented. My post was misrepresented by Ianch. I was talking about Khan being a liar in that post that Ianch99 quoted from and he used it and misrepresented, if it was meant to be funny, I must have forgot to laugh.

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It was a joke! The way you phrased your reply, just couldn't resist :) Jeez, you got to walk on eggshells around here now ..

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Trump is not doing himself any favours and it's worrying that he is not adapting to his position excuses can only be made for so long before the man has to accept he's doing it wrong.

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What is he doing wrong?

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Presentation, representing things accurately he is making very stupid mistakes for a supposedly experienced man of the business world. I am still hoping he rises to the challenge of the presidency and becomes a good one as we desperately need a new type of politician but putting your head in the sand in relation to his poor performance is not doing anyone or anything any good.

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Absolutely. When he's in a hole he just seems to dig himself in further. Don't think its a case of bad advisers, he either doesn't take advice, or they're too afraid to give it. Danger is he'll tweet about a country that isn't as subservient as us and cause real trouble.
If we have any national pride, whichever govt. that gets elected should withdraw his poxy invite.

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No way that should happen. What on earth has it to do with national pride? You simply don't like the guy and want his visit stopped. Thankfully you don't get to choose.


Watch Trump's full address to a joint session of Congress and tell me what you disagree with. The only area I have a problem with Trump is health care, but I wouldn't be happy with any US healthcare system.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXs7GA5LRVc

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The PM has come out and said Trump was wrong:

Theresa May: Donald Trump wrong to criticise Sadiq Khan

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You're a little behind the times, I saw what she said last night. She still gets my vote. ;)

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The biggest problem, apart from his attitude to Mexicans, Women, Muslims, Nepotism, etc. is his denial of Global Warming.

He will be mandating Creationism in American schools next ...

Here are some of the times Trump has been wrong:

All False statements involving Donald Trump

If someone is wrong so many times, then you wonder about his credibility, both personal and political ...

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Didn't realise I had to post in realtime :) Tricky, I have a full time job .. sort of gets in the way some of the time ..

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Having a job is no excuse as I have one too.

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Great news! When does it start?


I believe in creation and not evolution, but in the interest of free choice, it would be wrong to stop teaching evolutionist views. Both should be taught.

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"Free choice"

I could say I don't believe in gravity, but if I step off the roof of a 20 story building, that won't stop me plummeting to my doom.

Uninformed opinion is not equivalent to hundreds of years of peer-reviewed research and actual inventions based on that research.

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Ahead of Corney testifying tomorrow the Washington Post is saying a top intelligence official claims he was asked to intervene into stop Corney: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.cf956ae55131

Looks like that might be part of today's testimony.

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You'll be asking for Alchemy & Astrology classes next!

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Definitely non Biblical

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Well I got the funny part of it. As the actually post you made didn't state the name of the person, it was quoted and attempted to make light of that fact be referencing the other person who the thread was about and most people don't like.

No misrepresentation at all. That is however what Trump did when he only quoted a small part of Khan's speech about the attack and then tried to make out he was scared or was talking nonsense. That was a clear misrepresentation and total lie.

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Have you moved to Maidenhead then? ;)

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Again, rubbish. My post was misrepresented-end of discussion.

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:confused:

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Given this is a discussion thread, and forum, I dont think its the end ;) However, lets get back to the topic please everyone.

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https://www.ft.com/content/93d3ea4e-...a-1e14ce4af89b or Google "Comey to say that Trump asked for assurances on ‘loyalty’

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There is a 7 page testimony on Senate website on what Comey is going to say up to a point.

Nothing new so far. It backs news stories in Washington Post and New York Times. But according to some US Attorney's they are coming out and saying someone who leaked that to them could be in serious trouble, if found out who they are, as they broke the law leaking that to them.

But asking for loyalty, Trump was his boss, nothing wrong with a boss asking for loyalty.

Comey told then President-Elect Trump he was not under personal FBI Investigation.

Trump did NOT order Flynn investigation to be closed, his words were, 'I hope you can let this go, let Flynn go, he is a good guy.' The word 'hope' was used twice. Big difference between hoping for something or ordering someone to do something.

Comey has to be very careful as he could implement himself into an indictment. How can he say he thought the president was attempting to obstruct justice without incriminating himself. Him sitting on the information and not reporting a potential case of obstruction to the Senate when he is bound by the duty to report such a thing so, could see Comey in trouble himself.

Months ago, scores of Democrats wanted Comey fired, but now he has been, it's a different story. Of course scores of Democrats and liberals screaming Obstruction, impeach etc etc. But they are simply being partisan.

We should see how it plays out later today.

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David Aaronovitch in The Times nearly sums up what Trump did.
and he concludes
I wonder how Trump's words will impact his visit to the UK?

Source: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/c...dent-qx8wttqjj

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Agreed, will be fascinating.

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It's the end of the discussion where people are telling me my earlier post was not being mis-represented, when it quite clearly was. As this was days ago, not sure why Stephen felt the need to bring it up again, but the issue to me is done and dusted with.

As for the topic. It's not the end of the discussion on what seems to be the real life soap opera that trounces, House of Cards.... :D

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Well as its a discussion, I am perfectly entitled to post about it even if it was a day or so ago. I was not on the forum much this week so just posting my views and opinions.

Trump, not so much house of cards as the circus is in town and everyone has come to see it.

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I have to say, Liberal drivel. :zzz:

Trump was wrong to tweet what he did and has been said so by our own PM.

But.....Remember this is a Mayor who has said those who live in big cities should come to expect terrorism. He said this when a bomb went off in New York and while he was there.

Lots of questions why Khan sat on recommendations to put barriers up around landmarks, he should have sought funding that got that emergency infrastructure up and in place that could have prevented both the Westminster Bridge attack and this latest attack on another London Bridge. This is now in place, but it should not have taken two attacks to get it there.

I have seen this question being asked again and again in the last few days, this stemming from the last car crash interview with Diane Abbott, in which a Terror Review Report was completed by Lord Toby Harris, in which he made those barrier recommendations, after the Nice Terror Attack and this report was then commissioned by Sadiq Khan in Oct 2016.

So while he is being critical of Trump's flaws, he has his own here.

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I think Surveillance/Unmasking is going to be the big story in the end.


Full story here:


http://circa.com/politics/accountabi...g-on-americans

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Given the accuracy of the NYTimes leaks it looks very likely it was Corney himself who leaked it to them. There were only two people in the room and only one person who knew that Corney would put in his statement - himself. If it was Corney it was someone close to him.

I don't see see how 'they' broke the law though. Corney's statements aren't classified.

The FBI Director should be non-partisan and his loyalty is to his office not the President.

That said the statement seems to reveal more of Trump's ego than it shows obstruction IMO.

Of course but then so are the Republicans. If Clinton had won the election and fired Corney whilst he was still investigating the e-mails do you think that wouldn't have been a big scandal?

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Comey just admitted he leaked the contents of his notes!

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I'm perplexed. Comey says at start he doesn't think he was ordered to drop Flynn investigation, the words used did not amount to an order but he believes he was ordered.

I'm surprised he was the source of the leak.

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He is saying that there wasn't a direct order but an implicit one.

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He keeps pushing the more interesting questions to the closed session.

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Looks like Trumps Attorney's have told him to stay off Twitter. U.S Journalists said he may have live tweeted during the session.

The question of does he think if Hillary Clinton was President, does he think she would have fired him made me giggle and Comey said, not sure, it's possible.

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He has been pretty critical of Clinton as well during this. Think he has measured out every word to appear calm and unbiased.

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Surveillance of US citizens by US intelligence and security agencies is hardly any revelation at all most americans i know just assume their internet traffic is monitored and their mail scanned not a big deal at all really in terms of it coming out. Whether it's right or wrong is upto US citizens to decide and take appropriate action over and given it was going on long before trump got into office not sure it affects him one iota. Whilst it's true the head of the FBI is not supposed to be political again the position was politicised a long long time ago and i doubt Trump said more then any other president before him.

There is very clearly a campaign against Trump that seizes on the slightest thing but it isn't helped by Trump stacking the ammunition boxes for them and I'd have expected him to play this game a lot better then he has. As a businessman he was able to issue any order he saw fit and behave in a way that might have annoyed people but ultimately didn't really bother them, he seems to think that style can work in the white house and it's what's creating most of his problems.

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The likes of NYT and Washington Post being aggressively Anti-Trump. I agree with what one of the senators said in the hearing, all these leaks about Memos, crime scene photos of Manchester Arena and yet they couldn't leak the fact that President Trump was not under FBI investigation, it's too positive for their liberal stance, this had never been made official until today.

But don't get me started on the likes of NYT and other US media outlets, who leaked photos of the bomb fragments from Manchester Arena and the day before that, a picture of dead bodies on the floor of the foyer of Manchester Arena with blood smeared here and there. They are so wrapped up in their political stance with Trump that they completely had a ethics bypass sharing foreign intelligence during what was a active investigation.

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I came across this Tweet from the Senate Democrats and it is disturbing if true:

"Will there be a hearing on the health care proposal?" Senator @clairecmc asked today in the Finance Cmte. You should watch: #Trumpcare

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Looks like Trump may be postponing his visit here due to fears of protests.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...in-put-on-hold

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Satan will be welcome before the orange one.

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Leftie liberal nonsense. :rolleyes:

But that's right, let's damage our relationship with our most important ally. Not a smart move regardless who is President. :rolleyes:

Saying that, I trust zero stuff written in the leftie crappy news source such as theguardian, that keeps whinging about brexit. :rolleyes:

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We didn't stop him coming, he has decided to put it on hold.

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Illiberal stuff and nonsense. Trump bottled it, the invitation is still there if he wants to come to London.

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That's if what was written is true in theguardian, still having this issue Andrew of trusting everything written. :rolleyes:

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Well the BBC say it's still happening

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40241220

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No Mick, it's been reported elsewhere but I'm prepared to wait and see what happens. If he's coming soon, why has the date not been banded around?

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You have to remember Trump is an egotistical narcissist, do you really think he'd miss a photo op with the queen and all the pageantry that goes with it?

I think not.

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Oh, I don't know, maybe something to do with the Secret Service not wanting to broadcast his movements incase of nut jobs or Terrorists.

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The prospect of being booed by large crowds might just dent his ego and pierce his narsistic streak enough for him to want to put the visit of, wonder what he intends to do to win the mob round in the future though, not cause world war three, tell his handlers in Moscow to shove it, not grab anyone by the pussy for a while, lock her up, the list of possibilities is endless