Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Not really because virgin tell us nothing at all, it's the sources who tell us. If they know a pvr has a 5 year shelf life so last year is 5 years, they should be in development so we aren't left with boxes like that, in a earlier post they was testing box last year and we still wait.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

The term "overhauled" has a different meaning to different people. Be interesting to see what VM upper management mean by overhauled.

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As l say anybody can talk the talk but its walking the walk that matters and l will reserve judgement until the time is right.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

...and VM appear to be on a rather long walk, protracted walk.

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A long walk to find the customers they will lose next

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It sounds as if you are very dissatisfied Andrew. Maybe Sky would be a better choice for you?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

I'm not dissatisfied I just wanna see virgin media give something

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Very interesting.

A genuinely innovative TV package may tempt me to use the thing more rather than almost pure OTT.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

It paper talk and Scotland will win Euro 2016...

We have seen three DNP orders on the two new TiVo boxes.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Indeed if customers are unhappy then they have the choice to look for something better as there are plenty of choices out there.

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I'm out of patience. I'm tied to a VM contract that expires next February. We don't watch a massive amount of TV and a combination of NowTV and Netflix will probably be sufficient for us, assuming that NowTV doesn't rocket in price and the new Roku4-based box is a further improvement on previous models.
Not looking good for my 16-year-old relationship with NTL/Virgin. I'd keep their broadband but may wave farewell to the TiVos and the over £1000 a year for a phone and TV service that's barely used

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Well this info are you talking about this year or next year, because the earlier info about August seems to be unconfirmed by virgin media

" At the turn of the year it will launch a new set-top box to rival Sky Q, with ultra-high-definition pictures and a similar ability to sling programmes to tablets and smartphones around the home. Beyond that, there will be a major overhaul of the ageing plumbing that powers Virgin Media’s broadcasting, to allow it to shift to Liberty Global’s next generation distribution system, Horizon, which is already in use elsewhere in Europe."

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

I think MB's DNPs are out of date.

A lot has come out in the press recently, so I'll be surprised if it's something that hasn't already been mentioned.

Or the sources are just stringing MB along, hope not though :-)

Keep up the good work everyone.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

You guys STILL take notice of what MB comes out with -REALLY !!!!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Well, maybe things will look different by next February, nialli! I am a little surprised that such a good news article has been received so badly on here!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

l look into Chad's infinitely reliable crystal ball.;)

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I still fail to understand why DNPs are sent to MB if he can't use them! I mean, what's the point?:confused::banghead:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

;)

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I dropped my VM Tv package to the lowest tier, keeping the TIVO. I bagged myself a NowTV box, and have never looked back, I can dip in and out of pay TV as I want. I personally haven't missed a thing on the TV side, saved a small fortune and Got my Game of thrones season 6 already on catch up for tonight!.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

No idea why.

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Remember how you was told about new TiVo this year, does that no longer stand

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DNP means DNP Old Boy unless you are not sure of what that means as MB cannot post until he is told otherwise.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Base on latest info we have it still by the Summer games in Rio.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Oh, I get that Den, but that's not what I meant.

If they don't want information to be released, then why send it to Media Boy in the first place? Sounds perverse to me. What is to stop MB leaking it anyway?

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So we now have the choice of believing your statement or the Telegraph article quoting one of Virgin Media's top people.

Personally, I would say it is most likely coming at the turn of the year. Unless, of course, the new Tivo is to be trialled from the summer... That could account for the discrepancy.

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His integrity. Which is why his sources keep trusting him.

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But mediaboy David Boucher the chief digital entertainment officer says its next year, unless your sources are higher up we need to take the summer launch as fake or pretend or misinformed because I'm sure he will know working closely with John Malone sadly

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You have raised a good and possable answer to the summer thing

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Can you ask your sources please because we have two different stories

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

No need for that. (They view this thread.)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Hey listen I wasn't having a go and sorry if it came across like that. I'm like others are just trying to get clarity. We have your sources saying it's coming before the olympics and have the senior guy saying its new year, so it's fustrating with different info. But I want to say I wasn't trying to be rude

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

I assumed that MB meant that there was no need to ask the source as s/he reads this thread as opposed to telling you off!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

We get info from our sources when they sent some information to Media Boy HQ.

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But there's no point in telling Media Boy if he's not allowed to post the information! He must get frustrated (and frankly embarrassed) to tell us that he has half a dozen or so DNPs but he can't tell us what they are and we get frustrated because he knows and we don't.

This thread should be re-titled 'I know what's coming soon but I ain't going to tell you what it is'. Then MB could just tell us every week how many DNPs he has at that time. Then when a new channel appears, he can say, 'Oh, that was the DNP I posted six months ago!'

What absolute nonsense.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Cool can I ask if they are watching to see if they can find out , if maybe that guy is out of touch sometimes management can be like that. Or incase the timescale has changed to the new year

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The thing is if he didn't tell us, virgin would tell us sweet FA

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

And then you hide it in your secret drawer....

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Good points.

At time of posting we have THREE DNP orders.

1) What will be on the new TiVo boxes.
2) How much the new TiVo boxes will cost and also information on How much you will need to pay extra per month (If you want one).
3) The name of the new app that is set to launch on TiVo.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

But he can't tell us, that's my point. They are all DNPs, remember?

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Ah, thank you, I feel so much better knowing that... :banghead::walk:

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I mean virgin media, they should tell us, share information about upcoming stuff and if it wasn't for this site we would know less, what is the date for DNP orders to be removed.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

You might get a bad headache if you keep on doing that OB.;):D

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Already got one, thanks Den.:Peace:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Well on u switch this was said

According to the Daily Telegraph, Virgin Media intends to bring the new device to market at the start of 2017, but it may try to make it available in time for the Christmas period.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Agree that Virgin should tell us more. But I don't see the point of Media Boy telling us that he has a DNP order.

What use is that to anyone?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Because if he didn't tell us that, all we get from virgin is keep an eye on the website which is no use to anybody

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Is no 3 Amazon Prime?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Sooooo lets get this straight some posters get told what's coming soon but aren't allowed to pass on the info and virgin themselves won't tell us either, so what's the point of the thread ? Do the posters who are told what's coming work for virgin and if not why do virgin tell them?? :confused:

Again given that nothing of note has come to Virgin in months and months and months I don't think the rest of us are missing out ;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Then don't read them.

For me, it tells me that something new is coming along. The fact that the details can't be revealed at that particular time doesn't bother me. At least I know something is coming.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

When will the new TiVo DNP order be lifted

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

No reveal date was given late last week when we got the number 2 DNP order.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Lets hope its worth it.;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol. 2 launches next Monday after 4pm only on Cable Forum.

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Can I ask one thing are we allowed more than one new TiVo

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Agreed - good points, Old Boy.

We know that 1) and 2) are coming Winter 2016/17 so no need to get excited right now.

DNP 3) is the one that intrigues me but it's likely to be something like TED.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

I think the original TiVo should then lose the fee for the box and transfer it to a new box because we could then look at nearly £10 a month per box bit expensive

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I see little to excite in the article, OB. The Liberty Global era has been underwhelming so far, a shocking series of inflation-busting price increases with so little return for the loyal customers.
Virgin has ignored the TV side of its business and it is now outclassed in my living room by a tiny white box I picked up for a tenner and a service that costs me around the same each month as I'd pay for a pint. It's laughable. The news that the Virgin Media TiVo will not be replaced this year is disappointing but typical of a company that has focussed solely on broadband and ignored the TV service and doesn't appear to be in any great hurry to sort it out.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Hi I totally agree it's as I said they seem to focus on the broadband side and seem strangly and worryingly unfazed by sky q

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Is it really such a life changing event whether the new TiVo comes out in the summer, or in January 2017, or some other time or never? It is only a TV box! Let's keep things in perspective.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

In fairness, Sky Q is a top end offering, it's not an offering for the masses. The current Sky+ boxes will continue to remain Sky's mainstream offering.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Well the rumour is within 3 years that sky q will become the only platform from sky

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When VM launches its new Tivo offering, Sky+HD will still be Sky's mainstream offering. The situation might change after that but I think no one including Sky knows for sure.

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Media Boy. Can we expect any top revelations on Monday at 4pm or is it really just a new thread? ;) (I'm not including Sky renaming its channels temporarily or a local TV channel launching both of which do it for a lot of people but not really me.)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

As someone who gets given information including DNP information i can assure you that me nor MB would leak any info that is under a DNP, the simple reason being our sources give us info on a trust bases and we would never betray that trust.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

As of today it will be just an new thread.

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But if the new VM Tivo is based on the promised new, 2016, US Tivo, which hasn't yet been announced, VM have no choice but to wait. Otherwise, it would have to be based on the current Bolt.

No one can be certain that it will be based on the forthcoming 2016 US Tivo, but it would make a lot of sense to do so, especially if they are looking for a Sky Q beater.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

If that's true do we not deserved to be told by virgin

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Thanks for speedy reply, although that's a shame.

That dependency makes a lot of sense. I still think partnering with Tivo was a stroke of genius for VM but appreciate its usefulness is drawing to an end.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

then Scunner the public, make them pay for it, their customer base won't like that!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Companies have to prioritise commercial considerations. Telling your competition what you 're planning, does not make commercial sense.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

True but when the competition is ahead of the game it's different

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

I was told a few weeks ago that TiVo would eventually be superceded by Horizon.

It looks like there will be an update to the current TiVo in the intermediate period.

Perhaps TiVo will be the standard offering and Horizon will be the new all singing and dancing premium product??

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

But why do they send you these DNP notices if no-one is supposed to know? How do we get on this privileged list??

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Horizon is still a way off for Virgin Media, Richard.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

I was wondering from the Telegraph article if the new Tivo would have the Horizon software....or is that another set top box?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

As long as this crazy system of DNP orders remain, we continue to know nothing.

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But even if there was no DNP, then they be told nothing so then we know nothing more

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

How is it a crazy system? as the vast majority on here are pretty happy with it in these past few years as there are enough hints here and there.

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I don't understand why you are picking on MB, OB. MB has told us plenty of useful stuff over the years, and will tell us more about the new products when his sources will allow him. If you don't want to see his DNP stuff, ignore his posts. Repeatedly spouting off rubbish about how pointless his DNP's are just wastes space on here.

As others have posted, we would still know nothing even if MB did not have DNP's. At least we know VM have something lined up in the future, and those who currently dislike the current TIVO can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

The Telegraph piece says BFI Player.

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Which means the British Film Institute must be launching a app on the TiVo.

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Do you work for VM?
If not, why would they tell you such secret things?...Doesn't make sense if you are an average joe like most of us on here....What is gained from leaking info to you but not others? Your sources have betrayed VM's trust by leaking it to you.

Or do you have a secret identity that you are keeping from us?? ;):angel:

I can see OB's point of view - when a DNP is announced it can come across as "I know something you don't know :p:". It can be frustrating.

I'm not having a go or causing an argument. I really enjoy this thread and all the characters on here too. Just wanted to put a bit of clarity on why OB and maybe a few others are becoming frustrated.

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Why do you think I'm taking a pop at MB? I'm simply questioning VM's system of telling a select few about forthcoming developments for no apparent reason while denying the rest of us knowledge of what is going on.

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Agreed. But we are none the wiser knowing that MB and theone have received DNPs. There is always something coming soon, even if it's as trivial as The Test Card +1, so the whole arrangement is pointless.

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Yes, it is a set top box that is Liberty Global's own and is operational in other European countries.

From what I can ascertain, a new improved Tivo will be available to Virgin Media customers later this year or early next, and when that has had its day, this will be superceded by a new up to date Horizon box.

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Are you really happy with a system that gives one or two forum members updates and compels them not to tell the rest of us? What exactly is the point of that, Den?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

It gives you something to look forward too.

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Well you must think we are easily pleased! :D

Why would we be thrilled to hear that a DNP notice had been issued when in all likelihood it would be nothing more than a channel number change?

The whole idea is propostrous. Of course you'll support it, theone, you are, after all, one of the privileged few. :naughty:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Exactly - to paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld "there are known unknowns and unknown unknowns". I for one would prefer know there is something coming (hence the point of all this) even if I can't know the details rather than not know anything at all.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Either VM launch new TIVOs and stick with them for the next several years, or they don't and they go down the Horizon route for new stuff.

My best guess is that current tivos will get an "improved" user interface this year and then VM will launch Horizon as a premium product to bring VM's services into line with the rest of LG's operations. Assuming that is that Horizon now works, which it didn't when it first launched...

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

I'm sure most on here enjoy looking forward to the possibility of something arriving to vm.
Maybe OB you are afraid of the unknown? :p:
I neither support or unsupport it i'm neutral on it, once i get the nod to reveal the info then i will reveal it in the mean time maybe you should relax and enjoy the ride.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

It's ridiculous, theone, and there is no point in the system.

There is always something 'coming soon' to VM, either big or small. The announcement of yet another DNP notice without any hint at all is absolutely meaningless.

Oh, I've just had a really good idea.

But I'm not telling....

Did that make you all excited? :knock:




Didn't think so... :o:

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We know that a new Tivo is coming and it will rival Sky Q.

The Horizon STB box will follow later. How much later may be determined by the nature of VM's contract with Tivo.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Yes i'm over excited with delight please do tell OB. :rolleyes:

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For Christ sake OB you do get yourself into a muck sweat sometimes about things.:fit::spin::D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Well. Ridiculous.:rant:

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Are we really getting this software update this week

" That will all change, he adds, beginning this week. The user interface will get an overhaul to make its menus slicker and more picture-based."

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

I've seen a DNP and it had projected pricing, so there is commercial sensitivity about these things, which makes me wonder why they send them out. When I've received confidential information for the VMHD blog I don't mention it unless I'm specifically told I can.
Regarding Horizon: Virgin and TiVo signed a new agreement a year ago that has a couple of years still to run (it expires 2018 - story here)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Hazarding a guess, I would say that it has already started as they are already trialling it.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

But he was talking like it is a update and not bring trialled

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Can I ask something are we allowed more than one new TiVo when it launches winter 2016/2017

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

I'd imagine so but nothing has been stated yet as to how many tivos people will be allowed but we think the option will be there for multiple tivos in a household.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

The first generation firmware used XBMC (aka Kodi) and was alleged to be a bit of a hack. The later versions use the common Reference Design Kit shared with Comcast and Time Warner Cable and is reputedly rather better in design.

German Wikipedia (auto translation) suggests it has a "consistently positive" reception there.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

The reason I ask is TiVo is America do similar to sky with the TiVo mini and wasn't sure if virgin was adopting that

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

No. There is a currently an early pilot in three regions. The pilot will be extended into a few more regions once the final software is ready.

Provided the pilot is successful, there will then be a phased rollout to the remaining regions. This typically takes 3 to 4 weeks.

Maybe they interviewed him two weeks ago?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Do you have a rough idea about how long it is likely to reach the end of the pilot period, assuming no major hiccups, spiderplant?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

Thanks and it's true he could have been interviewed weeks ago

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But that could be for existing services, not new.

We all need some kind of software on the boxes we have, for them to run. So, VM had to do something when the current TIVO contract expired last year.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

You think virgin would go we have made a business announcement let's tell the customer

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Most interesting. Very surprised LG used such an open sourced platform as XMBC for what is meant to be a closed platform.

Regarding RDK, this is the reason why I think Horizon will be launched in the UK. It's the standard being used across LG's operations, Comcast's and others. There is a much bigger pool of companies contributing to to the RDK stack which brings down costs, whereas TIVO is shut off to all but themselves.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

That's what I was wondering , the Tivo extension could have been for the continuation of its software on existing boxes.

Could the new STB be on the Horizon platform ?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 

It's usually 3 or 4 weeks once we're into "proper" pilot, but I don't know when that will start.