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new update out

Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1511 for x64-based Systems (KB3118754)

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Not another one.:rolleyes:

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It is only a little update not a Windows install, no different from other versions of Windows.

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new update Cumulative Update KB3120677

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This update fixes the privacy settings that got reset to default when some people upgraded to th2.

The th2 isos and media creation tool are also now available as they had been pulled a few days ago because of this issue.

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Did a clean install Monday of Windows, and it seems to have cured the problem of internet dropping in Chrome at least 4 times an hour. Fingers crossed. Watch, now I have posted that it will go rubbish again now.

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I'm still waiting for my version to be made available.

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Which version? You should have got the th2 10586 update a few weeks ago on home or pro?

If not check defer update isnt selected failing that you should use the ms media upgrade tool, this should then get the update for you.

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I've just had the message to Update now or later, but I need to do some preinstall stuff as per Sony's instructions .

What does it do if I update later, does it download and give me a link to press to install later?

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I am not sure to be honest as i never did it like that being an insider, but you won't lose it or anything, but you do have until June 2016.

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new update out

Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1511 (KB3116908)

once computer restarted and the OS build is now 10586.17.

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Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1511 for x64-based Systems (KB3124200)

out now

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Just think yourselves lucky if you don't have a new Lumia phone, the latest update for Win 10 has totally bolloxed a huge number of phones. The update stalls, the phone overheats big time, you get a warning of low/no memory even though there is 20/25 gb of spare memory and the battery drains in four or five hours.
ATM it looks like a full factory reset of the phone is the only option.:mad:

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running 10 on lumia 520 and 625 only problem so far has been tethering and solved that by switching Bluetooth off manually before sharing as it seems it doesn't always do it automatically :)

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For some abnormal reason this update screwed my video card settings up on my main PC.

It switched the monitors the other way around than what they should have been for example it switched my main monitor to monitor 2 and i had to set them back manually.

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I can assure you there really is a major problem. ;)

Lumia 950 meltdown

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Did it late last night.

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Yikes, I hope they sort all this out before rolling Windows 10 out to the Lumia 930. I always saw carrier approval as an annoyance but definitely not in this case!

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I have a Lumia 950XL, arrived on the 4th Dec, worked perfectly until yesterday morning now it is basically a very expensive hand warmer. Giving them a couple of days to hopefully sort it before resorting to full factory reset.:(

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I changed my reg file so i can chose which updates i download. Stops the feck ups that seem to be common with windows 10 updates :)

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I'm still not seeing anything massively compelling that's convincing me to let this thing anywhere near my main PC.

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Neither am I.

I'm just hoping they have things eventually sorted before June. I see no compelling reason to change from W7 whilst it is still being updated for security issues.

Once that stops I'll move to W8.1 with Classic Shell and thereafter will most likely be a Linux user.

Has the "service pack" Threshold 2 been pushed out yet?

There is another due next year but will it be before the June deadline or will they purposely wait until that passes?

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It will always get updated for security issues though just like every other Windows version? :)

TH2 has been out a couple of months now.

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Same here.

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I'm still on 8.1 with Classic shell/start, with a tiny bit of tweaking you hardly get to see any of the Metro bs at all, I've found the experience to be pretty faultless. I never had an issue with Vista either. Win 10 certainly blows out of the water the 'every other release of Windows is the good one' theory.

I'm not convinced this isn't the Worlds largest beta test program.

(also enjoyed 95, 98, NT4 <not ME> Win 2000, & XP)

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Nail, head seems to fit here.

Every relaease of the MS system has had problems in the beginning, and we all expect issues at the start (at least I do from experience).

I understand that what MS are trying to do here is complicated for them as they've never tried cross platform in this way before. Yes they've tinkered with attempts, we know that.

I can see what they want in a cross platform system and I can see the benefits to the user. They still need to get their act together though IMHO.

Does W98 still get security updates?

Updates only last for a given number of years, the only exception ever has been XP.

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My guess is Windows 98 doesn't but Windows 7 still gets them and that was released in 2009, so I expect every future update to be the same for several years after they're released, I didn't mean to say forever.

You gave me the impression in your original post you thought the security would be fixed in a few months then you would upgrade to it. :)

For me Windows 10 is the best version of Windows so far, at least for what i use it for, although I like the Windows 7 theme a little better.

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windows 7 will get updates until 2020

totally agree windows 10 is the best windows

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This link might be helpful for you...

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/lifecycle

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Something a little disconcerting in the small print there specifically for W10.

"A device may not be able to receive updates if the device hardware is incompatible, lacking current drivers, or otherwise outside the Original Equipment Manufacturer’s (“OEM”) support period."

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Not really just stating what has always been true. Nice of MS to point it out.

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Oh well I'll stick to Win 8.1 then as it's supported until 2023 I'm sure by then Windows 13 will be out, maybe by then the beta testing will have stopped :D

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It is only true in regard to W10 not any previous OS.

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My work laptop has picked up and installed W10 Build 10586 but my main home PC is still running 10240. WU isn't picking the new build so can I just go to the Windows Update page, download the MCT tool kit and create a new ISO or upgrade to 10586 from there?

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You should be able to use the upgrade tool as long as you have the right version of 10 installed, try it.

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Just done it and it worked! Took about 35 mins - now running 1511 Build 10586.36

Is this the latest??

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It should be the latest if that is what the tool did.

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Got a new WIN 8 tablet last week so i upgraded it to 10 straight away, not overly keen on the apps blocks layout but it works fine.
So decided to take the plunge with my WIN 7 laptop this morning as i thought it would help getting used to the tablet etc. Downloaded months ago so on the laptop ready for upgrading, took almost 2 hours for update to finish and now seems to be working fine, only noticeable differences are the start menu and appearance.

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Once I got the thumbs issue I had months ago sorted, I loved 10. Wouldn't go back to 8 at all.

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I agree 10 is great and I could never go back to 7 or 8.

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Same here, I love Windows 10. Computer boots quicker than Windows 7 and seems to run better all round. No issues at all since I installed it.

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yes that's latest build :)

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I thought I would have another try now with edge. I don't know why I bothered as on trying to order something from Amazon it wont accept my password. I change back to IE 11 and password goes in OK.

Is there a feature in edge that stops you pasting the password in? which is the only reason I can think of.

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No idea, you could test it by entering it manually and also on another site.

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Never had any problems with Amazon on edge here

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Just tried putting the password in manually and amazon is happy with that. Also tried a couple of other sites and they are happy to accept pasted passwords.

Is there a way with favorites to stop some of the icons before the name coming out enormous?

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And here, much better than 8.1, no wish to return, 10 is great

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Well until the last few days I have had no real problems with Win 10 but I do have one now that seems to have been around for a while in 8.1 as well.:rolleyes:

Possibly caused by a recent Win 10 update but a few days ago my start button stopped working, no access to menu tiles or any other programmes. I also notice that the 'New notifications' icon is showing white on the taskbar bar but will not open or respond either. The only way I can shut down is by right clicking the start button.

A bit of research suggests quite an involved process for clearing this problem but other posts said to just leave it and see if it cleared.

I did this and after restarting a couple of times it did clear and was fine for three days but the problem has returned today and doesn't seem to want to go away.:(

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Luckily for me if the start button breaks, a reset always cures it, I think I have only seen this twice.

Are you on the normal version and never had a start menu replacement added or are you on an insider build?

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Just normal build, nothing altered or added by me, only events in last week or so is auto updates for MS.

I have been asked on the MS support forums for current build but when I right click on the start menu and control panel it brings up the old Win 7 control panel?????

Found my version by entering winver in run dialogue box.

1511 build 10586.71

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My system has been nagging me to schedule a restart. I had restarted several times and it didn't clear it. Did a check and scheduled and it did a big install just like the first time with W10.

I'm now on Version 1511 OS Build 10586.71. Things are appearing differently to before. Fonts etc have a different appearance. Surely the whole point about using specific fonts is that the appearance remains the same. It also said something about being on Windows Insider Preview. Didn't realize I was. Is there a way of checking?

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My Apple Boot Camp install of Windows 10 is broken :(

All was fine until a recent Windows update, after which Windows 10 got stuck in an "attempting repair" loop.

I wiped the partition tonight and reinstalled it from scratch, using a more recent ISO too.

Everything was going great at first. Windows 10 installed and updated OK, I could restart OK... But then I installed the Apple Windows Support software (the Boot Camp drivers etc.), and once again got stuck in an "attempting repair" loop when restarting.

I ended up killing it, again.

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Do what I do when W10 goes a bit weird.

1. Press the Windows key+X at same time, choose Command Prompt (Admin)
2. Type sfc /scannow and press enter. Wait for it to go through, can take some time to do
3. If it finds anything, it will attempt to fix it, and when finished reboot the computer and should be back working as normal. Had to do it twice myself, and it does help.

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Sorted for now, at first I was right clicking on the start button, selecting 'shut down or sign out' then selecting 'shut down' before rebooting with the power button on my PC.

I found that instead of selecting 'shut down' I selected 'Restart'. It took a while to get going but the problem has now cleared ( for now). :)

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Here is a little tip I found the oher day:-

Click the Windows button bottom left

Click the Power Button until it displays the options ie: Shut Down Restart etc.

Now hold down the Shift Key and then click Restart

It should take you to Win 10 menu where you can do different tasks such as Repair, Install, Restore a Sytem Image etc.

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I am still on Windows 7. Afraid to take chances .

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You probably said the same thing with other Windows versions, even my parents installed 10 without my help. lol

It is only free until June sometime.

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29th of July

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I think I'll stay on Windows 7 too. Windows 10 doesn't appeal for multiple reasons:
http://www.windowscentral.com/14-rea...ade-windows-10


Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 64-bit is looking nice though. Think I'm going to dual-boot that with Windows 7 for a while and see what happens.

Mint+Chrome+VLC+Skype+Steam+Spotify+... +developer tools.


Windows 10 vs Linux | Linux Mint 17.2 Impressions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLcpOQl_LoU

https://linuxmint.com/rel_rosa_cinnamon_whatsnew.php

Can always buy a copy of Windows 10 in a few years if necessary..

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Or do what I've done.

I had 2 spare laptop drives both now have the free upgrade on them, one for my laptop, the other for my desktop PC.

When W7 support ends I'll just clone them and wait for a few days while they update. Alternatively I'll just throw them in once every 3 months to update.

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So once its not free will they stop spamming windows 7 users with pop ups stating upgrade now or tonight, answers on a post card to "not a chance in this world"

For anyone being spammed on there windows 7 install, here's how to stop the spam. http://www.howtogeek.com/228551/how-...automatically/

For those who have installed windows 10 you can stop Microsoft spying on your every move by using this

https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/

For anyone who has seen windows 10 force an update on you that then broke your install, here's how to take back control.

http://techgage.com/article/taking-b...ws-10-updates/

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Mint. LOL. Never was a Linux advocate, but Microsoft are converting me.

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I have one machine running windows 10 and locked down against Microsoft's forced updates and spyware. I have a hackintos running El Capitan and a laptop with windows 7 that is locked down against Microsoft's update spam. Gives me chance to test most types of system.

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I've been getting extremely hacked off with Edge sneakily resetting some of my app defaults (.pdf inparticular). I mean who in their right mind would want to use Edge for anything really? Hmm a "bug" which Microsoft are "aware" of, OK.

Extreme annoyance sorted:

http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/wi...-associations/

And don't get me started on "Cortana" which now cannot be cleanly disabled and it's insistence on opening an unsolicited, permanent SSL connection to Bing. That's now been sorted here with the quick and dirty folder rename trick. TBH very soon Windows will be gone from everything in this house other than my work laptop.

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Cortana? Is there a ministry of silly names?

None of this is changing my mind about not wanting anything to do with Win10.

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She is named after a character in Halo.

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l can understand your train of thought as l felt the same way but l am pretty happy with Windows 10 since l installed it nash.

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I have not enough confidence in myself if it goes wrong, Den

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http://www.theguardian.com/technolog...complain-users
This is very naughty of MS. Seems W10 is now installing automatically if you've selected install windows updates. I've upgraded my main PC but don't want it on a laptop for the moment. Guess I'll have to change the updates option. They really seem desperate to get this on all PCs ....

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If, as seems likely, it eaves drops on users data that could be worth a lot of money to M$.

I'll have to make sure the laptop can't update to it.

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Yep, why 'fix' what you don't feel is broken, especially when you'll be stuck if things go pear shaped. :tu:

If I wanted Win 10 I'd get it but I don't so I won't (well not if I can help it lol).

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It's amazing to see how Microsoft has burned a lot of good will with something that should be a good thing.

Windows 10 being free is fantastic news, for people who want it. I bought Windows 7 and 8 upon release (Oh god why did I buy Windows 8?) and upgraded to Windows 10 as part of the preview program.

I think Windows 10 is a fantastic OS and much better than 7, and of course a million times better than 10. What I will not support though is how Microsoft is forcing people into updating.

If MS had simply put a question on peoples screens stating "Windows 10 is here, it's free if you want to upgrade, if not, that's fine, we wont bug you again" then there would be no problem. Instead, Microsoft are sounding like Mrs Doyle with the constant nagging, and worse, seem to be treating ignoring the nagging as permission to go ahead anyway.

In the absence of an answer, assume no, not yes Microsoft.

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Just install GWX Control Panel, no more nagging.

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

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In my case the whole Windows 10 issue has pushed me to make a decision..

Moving to Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon from Windows 7 has been a breeze!

Performance has been great. :D Ubuntu/Mint has really improved over the last year or two, since I last tried it.

Supports my L750 Toshiba laptop out of the box without installing additional drivers and all my usual apps work better than on 7 (even Skype). Around half the memory usage of 7, which means zero swap usage. :D

Made the switch on Sunday night and now Linux is my main platform.

Which now means I can either keep the dual boot windows 7, or format the Windows 7 partition and install Windows 7 or 10 from scratch using the Windows 7 key and use that as my 2nd platform.

I'm willing to experiment with Windows 10, but not use it day-to-day.

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Microsoft is possibly putting the pressure on because they don't want to support several different operating systems at the same time, as they have traditionally done. I don't think any other company has done that have they? As far as I know, Apple only has one Desktop system that they upgrade or update? True there are lots of different Linux versions available but these aren't all supplied and maintained by the same company. It seems only Microsoft has offered support for older operating systems (often for years) when newer ones have been released. It now looks like they want to change all that and only have to support one upgradable OS. Maybe that's an understandable goal.

There's probably no stopping the momentum now. Those into computers may get upset by the (almost) forced upgrades but most people will just upgrade to Windows 10 or get it pre-installed with new computers. Perhaps not very likely to be worried about its workings as long as it runs their programs without trouble.

I've now accepted Windows 10 and it certainly runs OK for me, as do all the programs installed on it. This wasn't the case when I first tried it but a later clean installation (rather than an upgrade) has produced a reliable and stable OS.

I'm unsure about W.10 privacy issues. I realise many take exception to data being gathered on principle, or feel that it is actually harmful ..and that's fair enough but are computers really being monitored for spying purposes? Windows 10 is installed on millions of computers now and the numbers are rising. Are Microsoft going to be interested in me personally (one in all those millions) and take a look at the way I'm using the computer? Is it more likely is that they are using everyone's data collectively to see what programs are being used, if they cause any problems and if people are experiencing any bugs?

The Windows 10 debate had lead me to install Linux Mint 17.3 on a spare computer. I agree that it makes a pretty fair alternative for those upset with Microsoft. I don't think I'd make Mint my main OS because I use a number of Windows programs that have been paid for. However, there are equivalent Linux programs that work OK, so making more use of Linux isn't entirely out of the question.

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I don't know if anyone else here is having problems with their start button. I used to left click and a menu would appear, and I could search by alphabet also a menu with photos news etc. But today I can't start it unless I right click and I don't have so much choice and only some pictures I would say about half a page, also I can't find where to look for windows updates. I have done a virus scan and a sfc /scannow but nothing is showing up, incidentally it takes a lot longer to boot and everything is so much slower is there a way to repair Windows 10 pleeeease?

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Timmy, do you get a message saying Critical Error, your start menu is no longer working?

If you do, then the only real answer I'd to reload W10, this has happened twice to me now.

If you google "Windows 10 start menu not working" there are a few suggestions you might try, none worked for me so I reloaded.

Best of luck!

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A long thread on this problem HERE

I have had this problem on and off for some weeks now, thankfully mine clears every time with a simple right click on the start button then select RESTART, not shut down.

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Can't install Comodo firewall on Windows 10 anymore, not happy!

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Comodo's website shows a Win10 compatible logo over the free firewall

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I know but according to their forums the standalone firewall doesn't work anymore.

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Thank you progers how do I reload W10 please?

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That's odd, my wife keeps telling me she can't find my 'start' button. :D

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Don't tempt me Osem lol! :notopic: Sorry


BTW I have been trying to solve this problem for the last 3 days :rolleyes:

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Tinky, I suggest you read this
http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4...dows-10-a.html

You need to follow the instructions to refresh your PC, you will need your original media that you installed it from, if you haven't got it you'll have to make another set by downloading from MS

Peter

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I reinstalled windows 10 a few days ago and I didn't need the original media.

I went from the recovery options in settings and it gave me a choice of keeping my files or wiping everything and it installed a fresh copy of Windows 10 for me and activated it.

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Settings no longer work I can't access them, the start button, Edge, Store, Menu and Cortana and sound don't work it's a nightmare. I still haven't given up on finding a solution. All this happened when IE crashed and left me with a blank screen, I waited some time before I was obliged to turn off the lappy manually. I appreciate any help, anyone got anything else I can try please? :erm:

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Have you got media on a DVD or USB stick? If not you need to download it again first.

Then start your laptop, do a Ctrl alt delete then select task manager, from the menu, select run a task and select explorer.exe, this should work, navigate to the media and reinstall Windows making sure you use the keep my files option

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No offence to Tinky, but your idea is way out of their league, she will want to keep things simple by using Windows 10, ie no installing stuff just switch on and go, nothing else.

---------- Post added at 17:38 ---------- Previous post was at 17:36 ----------

This may help Tinky, sorry i can't really hang around to help you out as i know how stressing something like this will be for you.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/w...covery-options

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Thank you everyone for trying to help me, unfortunately my USB is only 2gb I do have blank DVD's, how many of them would I need to use please?

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have had this known windows problem from Day 1 and despite numerous ideas on a fix Nothing permanently works. what i do is Restart and is ok until next time.
Beware this latest Update win10 its a flaming nightmare all three computers here have had problems from fail to restart after install , Aps removed , links removed
solution on fail is select Advanced repair options select return to previous version
of windows wait a while all should be ok i say should ? never can tell thats why
i have my Upgraded Ram (3gig) XP DELL ready to take over again

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need 1 dvd to make a windows 10 disc

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you can do it from Settings update and security and then select Recovery Read that
select what you want to do no need of any discs,

(CAUTION BACK UP ANY IMPORTANT FILES , PICTURES , ETC)

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I still run XP SP2 on my aging main system, one of the best OS's to come out of the M$ stable IMHO. I have W7 on the laptop and don't like it even after taming its worst excesses. I cannot understand the headlong rush to get a new, buggy, OS and then depend on it.

My business needs reliable computers, no way would I touch W10 with a bargepole. I'll leave the nerds to play with it for now.

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so there are people out there that dont believe the Crap that Win xp is dangerous its
the people that miss use anysystem that are.
I have used 3-1 95 98 XP VISTA And WIN7 XP will always be my Favourite
Win 10 has been a pain since it came out (RUSHED) Why have i got it well it came
with this .this time we are the Testers free for M\S Putting right there errors.

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XP's perfectly "safe" even though updates have stopped*, it's the BOFH that lets computers get infected.

An external firewall in the router greatly adds to security.

*I have never updated the original installation.

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So much hatred for Windows 10 when it is by far the best MS OS to date, in my opinion.

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Horrendous clutterfest.

I like a nice clean GUI. Just look at my start button menu for example:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...4&d=1459420252

All the frippery banished.:) It's the same across the whole platform. If I installed a new OS I'd be spending valuable time getting rid of the crap. It took nearly a week on the laptop with W7 to get that tamed and I'm still coming across stupid things.

If M$ concentrated on getting the oily bits right instead of adding frills and ruffs we'd all be better off. You can really only compare OS's by a back to back clean install on the same hardware. (Assuming the same level of HW support)

Attachment 26544

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That looks so dated in my opinion, no clusterfest on my freshly installed Windows 10.