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Its why I read it. Long may it continue.:) Let the nay-sayers, say what they want, it is their right. If they choose to read a thread that continually upsets them, that is their (rather odd) choice.

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I'm pretty sure it is why most people view the thread. 172,758 views in less than 3 months can't be wrong. I think you'd find it hard to find any other thread in the entire forum that's had more hits in such a short time. No need to change anything about it I'd say, the current format is a clear winner.

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+1

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Agreed:)

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I'm glad I'm not alone :group:

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You are definitely not alone.

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Oh that news to me - thanks for info.

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I don't really agree with that part Chad, on MB's monthly updates for instance, I'm pretty sure we could do without all the "No news" lines, also the "who owns this channel" etc etc could be binned, i just feel it needs shortened a little to be more user friendly, and to the point, regarding what really is coming/new. Just my opinion of course.

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I just scan MB's updates for any new info (which is bold) - the rest I don't bother with BUT I would never suggest anything gets dropped as a) somebody else may be interested in it and b) I'd feel rather annoyed if someone started to tell me what I should, and shouldn't, include in my posts.

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What's so interesting about "No News"??

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For instance, the 'who owns who' information in there may well be of interest to people new to the thread but as I was trying, maybe unsuccessfully, to say was I (nor you nor anybody else) knows what is of interest to other people so we shouldn't be too quick to try and censor other peoples posts.

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Chit Chat threads are notoriously hard to moderate as how can anyone decide what is on topic and they too often descend into anarchy,flaming,trolling,baiting.So we have decided no chat threads..
So back on topic please.

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Can't see what you are on about, it's not really "chit chat". We are discussing the merits, or otherwise, of what should be in the "coming soon" thread started by MB, surely that's relevant to the thread?

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For once, I agree

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Turned out to be duff information anyway, the rumour i was told was DisneyHD will launch on VM next Thursday, i've spoken to my source who i trust who has said "it's not launching on VM until at least Summer 2014"

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I was thinking about adding 'who owns who' information for Local TV channels to my list.

-I only added that info due to posters asking 'Any more channels may launch as part of the deal?' all the time some years back.

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Oh well.

I think the next channel launch on Virgin will be London Live at the end of March for viewers who can get ITV London on Virgin Channel 103. UK Wide viewers outside London may see their 'Total Channels' going up by one.

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4oD catchup content is now available in HD on Sky On Demand so this could arrive on VM in the future ?

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Hope so mate.

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Just to irritate everyone: SKY Sports News, SKY News, SKY Sports 3 & 4, SKY F1 all in HD. Any chance of them coming to Virgin before the end of this decade?

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Every chance. 2020 is being mooted as "SD switch off", apparently. Withholding HD channels will become less effective as a marketing ploy as that date approaches and maintaining two streams of the same channel will simply be burdensome and probably expensive. I don't know when we will reach the tipping point, but it will be some time before the end of the decade. :p:

Netflix on Tivo has been updated. Alot smoother and seems faster.

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Yes that would be nice.

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Maybe have the ownership information for all channels in a table on your Media Boy Blog and link back to it?

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I would like the 4oD catalogue on VM to become as extensive as it is on the website, that way it wouldn't be necessary for me to plug my computer into the TV to watch some older series on there

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In addition, 30 day catch up, don't suppose there's any chance of that coming to VM?

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The first SD / HD swap on a BBC channel has taken place today on Freesat. Viewers with Freesat HD in Northern Ireland will now be able to watch BBC One Northern Ireland HD on channel 101, with the standard definition version moved down to channel 108.

Wonder how long it'll be till VM do this

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By which time super HD will be the premium product and will all be moaning "we only get HD..." :)

@MB would you consider doing this? It seems a lot people are suggesting stuff but not asking you whether you would consider trying these alternative suggestions. No one doubts the work you put in nor the effort but would you consider this evolution to your thread/blog

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The BBC have said that they intend to extend the time of their iplayer catch up service from 7 to 28 days, so this should be happening, at least for the BBC channels.

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That's because the thread is back on topic and the chitchat has hopefully ceased so off topic postings won't need to be deleted..;)

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Will this do everyone?

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/p...adcasters.html

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Looks good to me :)
I would be tempted to name it something like "Channels Virgin Media may get when existing deals with the owners renew" in place of "Virgin Media's Deals with broadcasters." to make its purpose as clear as possible.

(Sorry - I always have an opinion on such things! :) )

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I notice my TiVo is not displaying any programme information for BBC3 beyond next week. Could this be because of the switch to iPlayer-only programming on this channel? If so, how are we going to know what there is to watch on BBC3? The iPlayer itself doesn't seem up to the job of being a programme guide.

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No it won't be, BBC3 isn't due to close as a broadcast channel yet.

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London Live starts in a little over two weeks. I would expect tests to begin sometime after the weekend.

Can someone in the London area with the correct facilities check for any off (or on) EPG tests please. Also, is it broadcast in the clear?

I am assuming that the way the cable system works is that all channels are piped, but channels intended for localised areas only appear on the EPG for their intended areas?? :confused:

I want this channel, but am outside their broadcast area. I think I will have to use my satellite system to do so, but it would be useful if I could get it off the VM network via a cable TV enabled television.

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BBC3 closure confirmed for autumn 2015
http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...ure-bbc1-drama

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That Guardian headline is misleading. As they state further into the story, the closure of BBC3 can't be confirmed until it's been approved by the BBC Trust. Remember, they vetoed the intentions of the BBC to close 6 Music and The Asian Network.

There has also been much speculation in the media world that this is a ploy by the BBC to obtain more funding.

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Did anybody see Danny Cohen on Free Speech? He did himself, the BBC and the plans to close BBC3, no favours at all by skirting the questions in such a way that would make a politician proud.

I also do not get his arguments that the BBC will grow BBC3 online, urm with what budget? Or him constantly saying BBC3 shows will be seen by more people when they are rerun on BBC1 and BBC2, find that hard to believe when they are surely to be dumped in a post 11pm slot.

Its ironic that he was once BBC3 controller i have not seen anybody sell out the people that made him this quick since Nick Clegg getting into bed with Cameron.

I don't buy the other arguements that cuts have to be made, complete and utter crap as most of the BBC3 money is going eslewere in the BBC rather than to make cuts

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Looks ok.

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Looks good.

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I saw that too. Still, at least the Muslims allowed it to be discussed, other subjects were censored and the BBC could not discuss them :shocked:

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Local TV has primarily been allocated Ch 159 on VM. It will depend what headends the channels are fed too as to whether you get them, just as with the BBC/ITV regions. Due to the way the network operates, in some areas there may be more than one local channel available.

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Thanks. I discounted the issue of different headends as I thought that they were all now amalgamated on the VM system (that was the reason given as to why local radio was taken off VM, with everybody getting BBC Radio London). Are there still multiple headends :confused:

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The individual mosque they were filming in asked them not to. Lets not tar an entire group of people with the same brush.

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Yes some do stereotype certain groups sadly gizuk.

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Yes, as nodrogd says, each headend is configured to select the channels available in that region.

A while ago there was a suggestion that VM would look to make all Local TV channels available via an app on TiVo, but I've heard nothing about this recently.

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LG in talks with a major on demand service, no idea who it is yet but i'm thinking Amazon.

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Oh god. Can't we stop these vanity posts? :td:

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Why should i? Just to please you? Grow up! I get my info i relay it here simple as that, don't like it then jog on and hit block or just skim my posts. I will not stop posting info i get just to please you. End of matter.

The thread decription " Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
Here is the new 2014 thread for continued discussion of Channels and services confirmed or rumoured to be coming to VM this year.

Please try not to stray from the topic and descend into pointless drivel."

There's a clue there somewhere.

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well said, this poster would fit in better with the Digital Spy argumentative members.

It seems everything he posts is to get a reaction or to wind someone up. :td:

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I wouldn't mind if the moaners actually contributed something or had info of their own, all they seem to want to do is shoot down me, media boy etc No wonder hardly anyone posts on here anymore. I'm getting sick and tired of it but i will continue to post the info i get as i'm sure most people appreciate the posts and the possibility of what channels/services are coming or maybe coming.

Anyway the threads going of topic so i'll stop this here lol.

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I would suggest theone was posting a rumour, well within the boundries of the thread.

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Nonsense, I wasn't stereotyping and there is nothing to suggest that I was.

I wasn't. It is a fact that a group of muslims prevented the BBC from airing a planned discussion in their mosque on a programme last Thursday. Ironically, this programme was called, 'Free Speech'.

There is a more appropriate thread here for discussion thereof:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...d-content.html

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Thanks for the info. Please keep posting the rumours you hear.

Yes JustaBloke; could you please stop.

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Just a thought but who'd be interested in Country music tv coming to VM? If enough are interested i could put it forward to one of my sources who could then pass it on to the relevent people.

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CMT used to be on cable and satellite but closed down around 15 years ago due to lack of advertising and I believe several millions in debt. I think it was run by CMT but was a separate company, CMT Europe.

People didn't tune in because 'in general', British people hate country music, in my view, because of the bland, clichéd stuff that was churned out in the seventies. Which is a shame, because in the early nineties, much of the 'New Country' that was around was being made by people who had grown up listening to Rock music and proper traditional country who fused the two together and were making some pretty decent music.

But prejudice prevailed and they just didn't get the viewers. I think it would still be the same today.

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Good point PB mate.

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The interesting thing is that people who don't like country music, but watch Nashville, remark on how much they like the music.

The sad thing about Nashville though is that what should have been a show about the music industry, was hijacked by those who wanted yet another Soap Opera. This reduced appeal of it to non soap opera fans and was the reason why T Bone Burnett left the show.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4182191.html


But does the fact that even Guardian readers (yes, that's right; the supercilious Guardian readers who comment on the media pages) like the music used in Nashville, suggest that there is more tolerance now and CMT could now work in the UK?

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I'm not sure if you use the same smart dns service as me i use unblock-us but i tend to watch a lot of stuff on Smithsonian online channel. Has loads of country music etc on it.

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Yes, I use Unblock-us. I'll have to check that channel out. Thanks.

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I'm also going to point out that the topic is about channels that are coming soon to VM TV.

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none coming at moment though Maggy so this thread would be very short :LOL:

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As far as i'm aware on demand providers and content is the main focus this year. If any channels launch it'll be channels such as Natgeo wildHD, DisneyHD, CIHD, UniversalHD, LifetimeHD, chart showtv etc, Localtv.
Hopefully i'll have something concrete soon regarding channels but apart from what i posted earlier it's pretty quiet on ye old sea front.

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yes understand that just hope everyone seen now we aint get the sky channels so no need to mention them all the time :LOL:

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Now if true our family would certainly be interested.

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Fine by me as it's still readily available to those who want it

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Not sure what other interest you'll get but add me in

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It's about time that NatGeoWild HD, Disney HD, CI HD, Universal HD, Lifetime HD & History HD made a appearance...

Hope we get Universal HD this year

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It will be encrypted on satellite so unavailable on Freesat, just Sky. The website does not state it will be broadcast online but I would expect this to happen and be the best way for viewers out of the area to watch it though some bought-in content may not be available online.

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That seems quite likely, the two others that come to mind are BlinkBox and Wuaki.

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Wuaki has been mentioned a few times as has Blinkbox too. Also one called VUDU has been mentioned too. VUDU is a American ppv on demand service so they could be interested in coming to the UK. I'm not sure about this but i think they already work with LG in the USA too.
Interesting times ahead i feel.

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Vudu is owned by Walmart so if it came over I would expect it to be launched on many devices and with a substantial push behind it.
I'm not sure the likes of Vudu would give us more content than we already have but could help keep prices down though. I would like to see more of the niche on-demand services like Curzon (currently has an exclusive deal with BT but also available on non-PVR devices), Classic Cinema and Warner Archive Instant (currently US only I think).

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Didn't know about the Warner one am going to give that a try as they offer a 2 week trial. If any good i'll report back.

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and me too

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My wife certainly likes country music, and so do a lot of people in this country. When Country Music TV was taken off some years ago, I was quite surprised, but I suppose if not enough people are watching it, then it just isn't viable.

Could be a separate section in Music On Demand if we can't get this channel back.

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Well, there is no new information, Dave, so no point in furthering that discussion for the time being. Notice we still haven't heard any more about Sky Bravo, which Sky said they would delay while discussions proceeded with VM, and now the complication of HBO On Demand, which could be used as a bargaining tool by Virgin.

Let's just wait and see. Anybody who actually knows what's going on behind the scenes is not going to let the cat out of the bag. However, the time lag is disappointing, but these things can take a long time when you have two sides neither of whom want to back down.

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Complication of hbo on demand??? Have I missed something:confused:

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I have tried to find out if it will be broadcast FTV or FTA on satellite , but keep getting contradictory information. Even the channels owners don't appear to know the difference between Free to View and Free to Air!!

Re: On-line availability. Thanks for this, but I'm looking to watch it on television (watching TV on a computer, tablet etc doesn't appeal to me).

If I can't access the channel via an off EPG VM set up and it is FTV on satellite, it looks like i'll have to buy a London based Sky card. I despise this company and hate the thought of giving them any amount of money :mad:

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Whilst there is no concrete evidence of HBO on demand being exclusive to Sky, some feel that because Sky have exclusive first run broadcast rights, this deal negates any further deals HBO could make make with other broadcasters with regards to on-demand programming. IMHO, HBO could have held Sky over a barrel with regards first to run rights (i.e pay this price or don't have it) and then told them we are still going to sell our back catalogue as too many people as we can because too many people are now pirating our shows. To pacify Sky in this possibly deal, all they have to do is keep the most recent series off of HBO on demand until the rights Sky have bought expire.

I appreciate this deal may be unlikely, but it could still happen. Sky boxed themselves into a corner when they took exclusive rights from HBO. HBO now have the upper hand over Sky and can do with their programming as they wish.

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So Sky pay £125 million more for this new deal over the one they signed in 2010 and don't have has good a terms.........can't really see that if I'm honest , just wishful thinking in my opinion.

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Sky still have the upper hand if we can only see those shows through PPV rather than on subscription.

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Let's hope that this is the case.

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People were talking about back catalogue subscription rights or at least thats what seems to be being suggested the PPV rights have always been available to the likes of Blinkbox , Google , iTunes etc so nothing has changed there.

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I did say the deal I wrote about was unlikely. :rolleyes:.
However, I am still waiting to see any evidence of Sky having exclusive on-demand rights. Whenever you wish to show me it, I will eat humble pie. If my unlikely scenario were to happen, there is no reason why Sky customers could not still enjoy the HBO on-demand content through Sky as part of their existing package, As you state, Sky have paid HBO much more than previously, and perhaps the additional SKy costs account for potential lost revenue from the possible (and probably unlikely) launch of HBO on-demand. I am sure HBO are happy for customers to pirate their back catalogue even though they could make money from it though.
I fail to see why you will not acknowledge that HBO could not try to extract every ounce of income it can from a vast potential audience in the UK that do not currently or do not want to subscribe to Sky.

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Well, I think one thing that we can assume is that Sky have paid much more this time because that was the going rate for them to maintain exclusive access to their existing HBO rights and/or the price increased because it included other rights, such as On Demand, to block off the possibility of others competing with Sky by offering HBO content in a different format.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

I'm actually thinking when HBO on demand was mentioned to me for a VM launch, maybe my source did actually mean HBO content via Amazon/Blinkbox. Come to think about it that does seem more likely.

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Cheers bud thanks for the explanation ;)

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It's all about perception. Sky get to keep up the idea of an exclusive channel full of hbo content. I'm with you, I don't think it's what's happened, but once you have a product that is performing well you can easily see how Sky would be prepared to pay more for less to maintain the illusion of the status quo. And since Atlantic is so important in driving Sky subscriptions the conspiracy theorists are at least right in one regard, hbo really do hold the upper hand in negotiations.

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Morning all

Is Atlantic a factor in pushing sky subscriptions tho? Majority of people who get sky I find is price. I've never found anyone I know say "it's for the hbo content" I think it's a nice thing for sky to brag and act smugly about in adverts but I don't think hbo content is the line they use to catch customers just another sweetener

As I said most people say it's price and sport coverage/hd

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Last year Sky's own research suggested Atlantic drove a quarter of all new subscriptions. Let's face it, spending a shed load of money for exclusive access to something just to feel a bit smug isn't really worth doing. Sky are better at business than that.

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Set to do some work on my blog at somepoint today I think I will go with "Channels Virgin Media may get when existing deals with the owners renew".

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Good to see I have doing somethings right - but I will not remove 'No News' from my list.

Next list update is set to be on April 1st.

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Yes, and that would be a good thing. I'm not too concerned about missing out on an initial exclusivity period, I'm about 8 months behind with all the recordings I've made as it is! If the back catalogue contains the first few series of Boardwalk Empire and Game of Thrones, that will do nicely for me if it's on subscription.

That will still enable Sky to promote their 'exclusive' SA channel and 'exclusive' first run HBO shows.

If streaming services containing earlier HBO series are available elsewhere, there's absolutely no reason why VM can't offer the same with the TIVO.

Having said all this, the continuing silence in respect of the negotiations with Sky that were starting in the autumn is intriguing. I've not read anywhere that there has been a big falling out between Sky and VM over this. As they say, though, no news is good news...

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

Isn't that the day Sky Atlantic is set to launch on Virgin Media?

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

Maybe sometime before 2021.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...ims-david.html

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Still no mention of when the new BBC i-Player will be on Virgin Media. It was supposed to be starting on Sky today. Does anyone have any news yet?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...mand-more.html

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

Blog has now been updated.

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Seen no news.

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The new iPlayer is a streaming service and as such won't be on Sky boxes in there current form as they use progressive download , the Sky iPlayer is a bespoke implementation , at the moment the new iPlayer is still in beta and only available to preview on selected devices.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

:Yes::Yes::spin::waving::hyper::omg:

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

Thanks, MM. Let's hope we get it this year then!

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Don't get too excited, Den! Take a look at that date again...

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

Personally, I think people who believe HBO shows will come to Tivo as a subscription service are deluding themselves; Sky has that tied up.

It could come as Pay per View... but that is available already, though not on Tivo. So that is a possibility to be added to Tivo. But in my view PPV prices are exorbitant.

The only other way to get HBO via Tivo is if VM finally do a deal with Sky to get Sky Atlantic. But that looks dead in the water for the foreseeable future.

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 

no is the answer

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All sorts of things happen on April 1st Dave.