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Such optimism from thy loyal servant.:D

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Im always optimistic :)

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[QUOTE=denphone;35599289]Do not let the dark side cloud your judgement Howard as please remember the grass is not always greener on the other side.[COLOR="Silver"]

I know that so well bud,believe me I ain't no sky fan but stuck by vm on previous occasions but they have know n about this for 12 months and even I am getting sick of there familiar silence

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think he getting ready to eat that hat of his Den ;)

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I dont need to be ready as wont happen. If it arrives on VM then it needs to be included in XL and no extra charge for it and im sure that wont happen so im ok :)

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well I think it will be and you need to be ready ;)

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Nah no knowledge. I am just believing, and trusting what BomberAF said sometime back, MB's claims from his insiders and the news from a couple of the newbies about hanging fire for a week before they leave. This time next week I believe I will be getting very good value from VM:)

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I go buy a hat when its time :)

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make sure it a tasty one then mate ;)

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Don't forget the dirty boxers too. I still require video evidence though:D

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he should have added SA too then he would have been safe but he just said BT sports and yes we need video evidence :D:D:D

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it will be a wooly one :D

Already got them

Darn i never thought of that, is it too late to change it?

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yes far to late now mr stokes :D:D:D

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[QUOTE=howardmicks;35599336]Chin up Howard, look at how long it took Sky to strike a deal, it must only have been a couple of months back. They only got it on a normal deal. I reckon VM will announce an awesome deal for us very shortly:) I also believe Bomber when he says they cannot say anything due to BT/Sky contracts:)

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Today would be a lovely day to announce BT sports coming to virgin media on the XL package. I could celebrate by drinking copious amounts of alcohol tonight.

I'd even get a virgin media tattoo on my buttocks if they can announce it today.

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Darn :(:(:(:(:(:(:(

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My EPG now shows as of 01/08/2013
ESPN America = No programe information
ESPN Classic = This channel will no longer be available

ESPN HD & SD = Normal Tv listings ??

Does this mean an announcement is due any time soon ??

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Probably going to be disapointed but at least you will not have to get the tattoo done.

Can't see anything being announced by or on 1st August, would like to be suprised but have my ear to the ground on all this stuff and have heard nothing apart from they are in discussion with both Sky and BT

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I seen that on my V+ Box last night.

As far as I know some new announcements are due to be make by Virgin Media very soon (In the coming days).

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Thats correct as ESPN Classic, and ESPN America are to cease broadcasting in UK

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id guess it be the 1st if bomber is right

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I am really starting to think that poster who started this rumour about the channel launches on August 1st is right.

Maybe Virgin cant confirm them launching due to the deals they have signed with broadcasters.

Here is what BomberAF posted: http://www.vmhd.blogspot.co.uk/2013/...coming-in.html

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I believe bomber is right too MB

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Indeed ;)

If any embargo in place is not adhered to, this may push BT to abort any plans that may have been made to launch BT Sports on VM, as it could be viewed as a breach of contract.

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Sincere apologies if this question has been asked a thousand times....

If ESPN America is to stop broadcasting in the UK, who will show live MLB games? Or will the UK no longer MLB games?

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Info on my V+ says that MLB games will move to ESPN from August 1st.

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It will be on BT Sport

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Aye if it has been a deal made then sky and bt will want to continue their aggressive propaganda till the day before the channel launches. I'd love to know how many people have switched over

If they announce anything today will the whole forum join me in getting extremely drunk this evening?

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l am teetotal my friend and my partner would not be too happy if she saw me drunk and she is the boss in this household.:nono::bigcry:

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cant see there being announcement today

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Not in a million years Dave.

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Wont be announced today

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I really cant see anything being announce until after something happen.

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totally agree MB that's the VM way

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Hope you are right but nothing has been rumoured in the investor world

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fist time poster but have been on reading the forums for months..myself have tivo and xl package family are big sport fans and cant wait to find out what virgin are up to with bt sport then we can decide to ether stop with the xl package or drop it to L

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welcome to forum :)

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Aye i may look into that. I'm not overly bothered by HD channels and haven't been caught up in the "magic".

what would be truly epic in its failure would be if virgin media were literally just stringing us all along and there was no news or secret deals... i'd be devastated. More devastated than watching a puppy die of a broken heart

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If that scenario was to come to fruition then l would not like to be in Virgin's shoes but somehow l cannot see that happening unless VM are extremely dumb and want to clearly lose quite a few customers.

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Stock prices in VM have been steadily going up, either we can expect something good or to see them dramatically fall next Thursday.

Regardless, the deal will be strictly embargoed so the investors won't find out any sooner than us customers

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Thinking about these channels testing, if they were just shopping channels or +1's etc because we usually know what channels are coming quite a bit before they do unless ofcause it's a very very big channel

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Think a lot of us will be. Apart from rumours, there are scant indications of VM coming up with the goods. I understand the need for confidentiality if a deal has been done for BT Sport, but human nature being what is is, they have either not even told their staff of the deal - or they haven't done one.

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Has anyone considered that Bomber & Co. have started all these rumours to build up our hopes, so we will be totally fed up on August 1st when nothing happens.
I have a feeling that Retentions will be very busy come next Thursday.
Sorry to sound so pessimistic :(
But at least I'm out of contract :)

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why does it always seem that Virgin are trailing behind, they need to bring something good out of the bag soon!.

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I agree with MB & Nialli on his blog: http://vmhd.blogspot.co.uk/

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Agreed. Shopping channels tend to be known about in advance. Big channels are not announced until their arrival is absolutely certain.

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I don't know what I'll do over the weekend without my regular hourly visits to check if media boy has posted or there's been any announcements.

Shame no one can see what the testing channels are...didnt it used to be a lot easier to spy onto those things then it was analogue?

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Sorry Nick that is simply not true. VM have made huge strides this year in channels and are in a much stronger position than they were. The BT farce (sorry the whole thing from the bidding for the rights to the selling of the channels is a total farce) is a problem but as others have pointed out it is BT's loss if they do not let the channels onto cable. The pathetic new bb customer figure of 23k means VM may be in a position to do a deal.;)

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Yes John I am hopeful too. I agree also with those who say VM will have goofed badly if it turns out that there will be neither BT Sport nor Sky Atlantic as the talks must be close on both or have been agreed. If one collapses it is credible but not both.

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Just curious.

What would people rather see?

BT included in XL as ESPN was OR BT Sports available as a stand alone at the extra price but with Atlantic , History , Universal etc. added to replace ESPN in the XL TV pack.

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Why on earth would BT Sports be included in XL, it's entire existence is based around people moving to BT BB to get it free

They're not going to let you watch it without BT BB without paying £12/£15.

Good lord.

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Passionate!

Possibly true too but if you're wrong good sir it truly will be clobbering time for you on the forum!

green inferno- definitely BT sports in XL. Sky Atlantic is something i'd like but there also seems to be a lot of filler.

Depends on individual tastes tho.

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you got to remember bt want to bill customers themselves sky have accepted that VM wont do that so theres a good chance it be in XL

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People say this but BoxNation charges customers and not VM is that correct?

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don't know mate never had boxnation chad would know sure he had it when he was with VM

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that's for free hd. nothing to do with virgin

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So BT want to sell the channel themselves but they can't because cable doesn't work like that, so they're going to put it on XL? Where the hell is the logic in that?

They want broadband customers or money, being in XL gets them none of the first and very little of the second.

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being in XL BT get a wholesale price from VM and lot more in tv advertising revenue too don't think BT shareholders will be happy spending all that money on football for no return as take up not been that great so far has it

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well it exactly what bomber said we will see on 1st of august

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I for one would be happy to see BT sports as an optional add on.
People would then be free to evaluate the content, and decide if the additional cost is value for money or not.

I love sports and enjoy Sky sports, but would check the content before committing to any additional cost for BT.

Sky Atlantic could be included in VIP collection, using the savings made from ESPN.

Another possibility is that Virgin could offer both BT and VA free for the first year, provided that a new contract is signed. Thus protecting revenue against any additional costs.

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Right, I think ESPN got about 30p or something per XL customer. Virgin has about 4 million customers so let's assume 30% have XL.

That would get them £360,000 a month, the same as 30,000 customers at £12 a month (or 24,000 HD customers at £15).

Somehow I can imagine there will be a lot more people than 30,000 wanting BT Sport on Virgin.

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Didnt BomberAF say an announcement would be made 1 week before channels goes live?

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Yes, which was yesterday.

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Yeah, very little... Only a good cut of a several million XL/VIP subscriptions.

Simple maths, say for example receiving £7 per month per XL/VIP sub, of which there about probably at least 1.6 million out of the 3.2m customers is considerably greater than 20,000-30,000 separate subs of £12-£15. BT will make far more money from it being in a collection than sold separate. Don't see what people aren't understanding about this?

Only 23,000 have signed up via Sky (without being BT BB users), so even that estimate of Virgin subscribers is large at this point. Could change as the season draws closers but I doubt more than 30k people would subscribe on Virgin.

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without going threw all the posts on here I thought he said anytime within the week before going live could be wrong

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I have been watching the video loops on BT Sport and so far still nothing about VM. Still says can get on BT TV and Sky TV

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So a likely scenario, bt sd channels in xl and hd in vip

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He did say:

http://www.vmhd.blogspot.co.uk/2013/...coming-in.html

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Still think the EPG closing America and Classic but not ESPN itself may mean something... and not just an error!

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Calling BomberAF Calling BomberAF where are you as you need you to report to Bomber Command to explain yourself to us all.:)

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ok thanks MB

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Thanks MB

I dont. ESPN Classic and ESPN America cease broadcasting in Uk and ESPN is still broadcasting. It could just be that it has to have EPG info until channel comes off VM or even needs EPG info due to other TV platforms

Come in BomberAF :)

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And also Virgin has updated the listings for both ESPN America and ESPN Classic over the past week.

TiVo viewers posted on July 19th at Listings was still showing on both of them.

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Thanks MB!

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If ESPN and ESPN was set to close on Virgin Media all the listing would have says 'This channel will no longer be available'.

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If BomberAF was correct can the moderators on this forum change his username to "Sir BomberAF"

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Lets say that vigin have done a deal but due to contract can't reveal anything yet, BT have virgins hands tied until the date, this doesn't mean that rumours couldn't be initiated to suggest to customers that something will be coming, rumours conveyed by e.g. BomberAF

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What do they say on VM EPG?

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I have just checked Sky EPG for ESPN Classic and ESPN America and from 6am 1st Aug it shows "..programmes no longer available"

If this is the same on VM EPG then this is reflecting what i am saying

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Then VM EPG is incorrect as like i say no listings on Sky EPG for ESPN Classic or ESPN America

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I am talking about ESPN and ESPN HD.

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l am talking about ESPN HD and SD and they go up to the 9th..

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ESPN got 30p per XL sub, why on gods earth would they then give BT £7 per sub.

I gave you the accurate maths and you've dismissed it using figures off the top of your head.

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Oh im not, i thought the first post started about ESPN C and ESPN A

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I can also confirm ESPN HD has listing beyond 1st August on Sky EPG as well

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Do you know for sure that 30p is the correct amount?

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Agreed Den which is what I was talking about too!

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But they would still have EPG data for beyond 1st as channel is still broadcasting on other TV platforms

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Boxnation confirmed to me back in 2011 that VM charge the customer. When Boxnation first launched it was free on SKY for the first 3 months. Boxnation also offered the next 6 months for the price of 5 to SKY customers signing up for the channel. When I asked them would VM customers get the same deal, Boxnation confirmed VM have control over any deals or even price they charge for the channel!

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They do still have EPG data beyond the 1st... up to Friday 9th currently which is the end of the current EPG. :erm:

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thought that would be case Chad mate thanks for confirming it VM would not let others charge their customers so if VM get BT sports it be in a pack of there choice once a wholesale price is agreed

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Oh ok makes sense so VM dealt with payment not BoxNaition

That is my point as they are still broadcasting so they ill have EPG data, even it the channels was to disappear from VM from 1st Aug it will still show EPG data

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If we were getting the channels and they were going to cost £12 or £15 I'm pretty sure we would have found out by now. The reason we might not have heard anything yet is they may be annoucing other stuff which isn't set in stone yet, one thing may be this android app for tivo

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Ok so some news from BT Sport. I have posted to them on Facebook about coming for Virgin Media and about the sport app and not good news. Will post screens in a min

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Screen 1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5smnfgdn0p...2013.17.31.png

Screen 2

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qj1959r0z4...2013.19.10.png

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they got to keep saying that to a announcement is made

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Exactly.

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Im only posting the reply back from BT as it stands at moment. Make what of it you will

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Well they are going to say that, then you sign up with them. Remember what Bomber said, the deal meant they could aggressively target VM customers. Also the Facebook team are not going to be privvy to a deal.

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:mad:

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yes we know that mate just saying they trying to get VM customers to switch at moment to a announcement is made which fits in with what bomber said

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It's a standard answer.Off topic but I emailed my the music streaming service about an album they didn't have and their response "we don't have the rights for this album", a couple of days later they had it. Guess what I'm saying is it's like an automatic replie

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But as the post on FB said im not with VM i said i was with Sky and already signed up

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VM buy Boxnation at a wholesale price from the current owners of the channel and sell it onto their own customers.

BT have shown an interest in buying Boxnation. If they do, we will possibly see Boxnation bundled in with the BT Sport channels. This will be in the same way that several channels were marketed under the Setanta brand and cuts back office costs.

Who knows, maybe we will eventually see Boxnation included in XL...

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But you've said your family members are with VM, so by saying it won't be available, they might switch