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muppetman11 17-05-2011 22:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35238697)
Is it a wonder that people hate sky?



More rubbish then!
10.1 million homes may disagree , so its only a problem when Sky buy into a popular show a few seasons in , weres the harm in trying to strengthen there flagship channels , anybody would think they'd locked it away on Sky Atlantic.

devilincarnate 17-05-2011 22:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35238910)
10.1 million homes may disagree , so its only a problem when Sky buy into a popular show a few seasons in , weres the harm in trying to strengthen there flagship channels ,
This is the only thing that grates me about your statement, As the channels that have had them before had the initial outlay and took a risk as the programme could have been a flop. Since it seems that Sky are waiting for the other channel providers to do all the hard work and then Sky come in and pay over the odds for the programmes.
In regards to Glee Channel 4 walked away and and it is not full sure who will get the rights, But it seems like Sky will again:confused:

muppetman11 17-05-2011 22:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35238916)
This is the only thing that grates me about your statement, As the channels that have had them before had the initial outlay and took a risk as the programme could have been a flop. Since it seems that Sky are waiting for the other channel providers to do all the hard work and then Sky come in and pay over the odds for the programmes.
In regards to Glee Channel 4 walked away and and it is not full sure who will get the rights, But it seems like Sky will again:confused:
I can see your point , however this will always happen , don't forget Sky takes risks with shows as well.

devilincarnate 17-05-2011 22:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35238919)
I can see your point , however this will always happen , don't forget Sky takes risks with shows as well.
Yes I know :D The BBC takes risks as well they set them off on BBC THREE and then they move to BBC ONE/TWO:D:D:D:D:D:D

muppetman11 17-05-2011 22:25
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More 3D info

http://www.techradar.com/news/televi...-needed-956743

devilincarnate 17-05-2011 22:27
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. II.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35238924)
I posted it already post 1491:erm:

muppetman11 17-05-2011 22:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35238927)
I posted it already post 1491:erm:
LOL sorry mate missed it :D

Johnlouis 17-05-2011 22:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undertakereddie (Post 35238596)
Bad News For Glee Fans Because The Third Series Will Be Shown on Sky 1 & Sky 1HD Next Year Instead of E4. I Got This Info From www.digitalspy.co.uk
Why is this a problem? We all get Sky1, don't we? Now, if it was going to Sky Atlantic it would be different.

muppetman11 17-05-2011 22:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnlouis (Post 35238934)
Why is this a problem? We all get Sky1, don't we? Now, if it was going to Sky Atlantic it would be different.
Exactly Sky one is available on M+ packs and above isn't it , the only people this affects are freeview and freesat customers plus VM M customers.

undertakereddie 17-05-2011 23:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnlouis (Post 35238934)
Why is this a problem? We all get Sky1, don't we? Now, if it was going to Sky Atlantic it would be different.
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35238936)
Exactly Sky one is available on M+ packs and above isn't it , the only people this affects are freeview and freesat customers plus VM M customers.
Well Some People Hate Sky For Nicking other Shows From Other Channels Thats Why.

carlwaring 17-05-2011 23:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35238923)
Yes I know :D The BBC takes risks as well they set them off on BBC THREE and then they move to BBC ONE/TWO:D:D:D:D:D:D
Of course, that's not the same thing at all; but I assume you know that, hence the smileys ;)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnlouis (Post 35238934)
Why is this a problem? We all get Sky1, don't we? Now, if it was going to Sky Atlantic it would be different.
No. Wrong. More people can watch E4 than can watch Sky1.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35238936)
Exactly Sky one is available on M+ packs and above isn't it , the only people this affects are freeview and freesat customers plus VM M customers.
Exactly. That's still a lot of people.

devilincarnate 17-05-2011 23:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35238946)
Of course, that's not the same thing at all; but I assume you know that, hence the smileys ;)
Yes you guess correctly ;)


Quote:
Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35238946)
No. Wrong. More people can watch E4 than can watch Sky1.
That is very true:)

muppetman11 17-05-2011 23:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undertakereddie (Post 35238945)
Well Some People Hate Sky For Nicking other Shows From Other Channels Thats Why.
Nicking is a bit harsh of a word , don't forget they've paid big money , Channel 4 had the chance to up their offer.

Chad 17-05-2011 23:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35238916)
This is the only thing that grates me about your statement, As the channels that have had them before had the initial outlay and took a risk as the programme could have been a flop. Since it seems that Sky are waiting for the other channel providers to do all the hard work and then Sky come in and pay over the odds for the programmes.
In regards to Glee Channel 4 walked away and and it is not full sure who will get the rights, But it seems like Sky will again:confused:
What I don't understand is why Channel 4 and the BBC are caught out time and time again with this type of thing. When negotiating the initial deal they only seem to agree the first couple of seasons. Channel 4 had Lost for 2 seasons, then it went to SKY. BBC had 24 for 2 seasons, then it went to SKY. E4 had Glee for 2 seasons, now it looks like it's going to SKY. I think Channel 4 and the BBC need to be more aggressive and forward thinking whenever they snap up future TV rights from the States, just in case the programme becomes incredibly popular and runs for more than 2 seasons!

On a similar note HBO are working on the 3rd series of The Ricky Gervais Show using the best bits of the old podcasts and XFM shows. The 3rd series will be on both HBO in America and Channel 4 here in the UK. Ricky Gervais, Steve Merchant and Karl Pilkington will be recording brand new content later in the year for the planned 4th series of the show which is rumoured to on HBO and SKY One!

carlwaring 18-05-2011 00:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35238954)
Nicking is a bit harsh of a word , don't forget they've paid big money , Channel 4 had the chance to up their offer.
C4 may have "had the chance to up their offer" but it was probably too much for them to justify spending on just the one show.

The point is that Sky have the money to be able to outbid any other channel if they want to. However, as has already been said, their strategy seems to be that they see how shows perform on other channels then, if they're a big hit, they'll swoop in with a bigger wad of cash and, essentially, nick the show.

muppetman11 18-05-2011 00:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35238990)
C4 may have "had the chance to up their offer" but it was probably too much for them to justify spending on just the one show.

The point is that Sky have the money to be able to outbid any other channel if they want to. However, as has already been said, their strategy seems to be that they see how shows perform on other channels then, if they're a big hit, they'll swoop in with a bigger wad of cash and, essentially, nick the show.
Unfortunately in business Carl that's life , the highest bidder wins. It's like Wigan Athletic having a player since he was 8 and nurturing him through to the first team only for him to become a massive star and be bought by the likes of Chelsea and United.

carlwaring 18-05-2011 00:17
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True, but the point being that all his fans can still seem him play if they want to. No-one loses-out.

Now, in order for fans of Glee to (legally ;)) see the next season, they either have to spend more money or not see it.

BenMcr 18-05-2011 00:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35238996)
Now, in order for fans of Glee to (legally ;)) see the next season, they either have to spend more money or not see it.
Unless they already have Sky or VM (dependent on where it ends up)

Don't agree with the way Sky work, but lets not blow it out of proportion

muppetman11 18-05-2011 00:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35238990)
C4 may have "had the chance to up their offer" but it was probably too much for them to justify spending on just the one show.

The point is that Sky have the money to be able to outbid any other channel if they want to. However, as has already been said, their strategy seems to be that they see how shows perform on other channels then, if they're a big hit, they'll swoop in with a bigger wad of cash and, essentially, nick the show.
Quote:
Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35238996)
True, but the point being that all his fans can still seem him play if they want to. No-one loses-out.

Now, in order for fans of Glee to (legally ;)) see the next season, they either have to spend more money or not see it.
I will agree with you on that , however Sky is a business and they do what they feel is best to strengthen their own channels , whether we think it's right or wrong. At least most VM subscribers who are fans can still watch it ( well anyone on M+ or higher )

devilincarnate 18-05-2011 00:42
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Sky is expected to be the show's likely destination after reportedly offering more than double the amount Channel 4 paid for its first two seasons.
This what I was going from?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13428649

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35238979)
What I don't understand is why Channel 4 and the BBC are caught out time and time again with this type of thing. When negotiating the initial deal they only seem to agree the first couple of seasons. Channel 4 had Lost for 2 seasons, then it went to SKY. BBC had 24 for 2 seasons, then it went to SKY. E4 had Glee for 2 seasons, now it looks like it's going to SKY. I think Channel 4 and the BBC need to be more aggressive and forward thinking whenever they snap up future TV rights from the States, just in case the programme becomes incredibly popular and runs for more than 2 seasons!
This is what I mean in the above quote? Due to the money offered:erm:

denphone 18-05-2011 07:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35238990)
C4 may have "had the chance to up their offer" but it was probably too much for them to justify spending on just the one show.

The point is that Sky have the money to be able to outbid any other channel if they want to. However, as has already been said, their strategy seems to be that they see how shows perform on other channels then, if they're a big hit, they'll swoop in with a bigger wad of cash and, essentially, nick the show.
And thats what they are doing is nicking these shows, its like a smaller football club bringing through a talented youngster and then as that youngster develops into a very good player one of the big teams comes in with a huge offer.:(:(

muppetman11 18-05-2011 10:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35239025)
And thats what they are doing is nicking these shows, its like a smaller football club bringing through a talented youngster and then as that youngster develops into a very good player one of the big teams comes in with a huge offer.:(:(
Indeed it happens all the time in business.:D

carlwaring 18-05-2011 10:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35238997)
Unless they already have Sky or VM (dependent on where it ends up)
Reported as Sky1. And, as I said before, far more people have access to E4 than Sky1.

According to the latest BARB (May 2 - May 8) figures, "Glee" was E4's #1 show with 1.9m viewers. Sky1's #1 show in the same week was "Hawaii Five-0 with just 843k.

Okay, that's actually more than the rest of E4's Top Ten, which does blunt my point slightly, I suppose :o::p:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35238999)
I will agree with you on that , however Sky is a business and they do what they feel is best to strengthen their own channels , whether we think it's right or wrong. At least most VM subscribers who are fans can still watch it ( well anyone on M+ or higher )
Oh absolutely. But they're still a near-enough monopoly to worry about :)

muppetman11 18-05-2011 10:48
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VM to expand in Derry

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/4...-in-derry.html

BenMcr 18-05-2011 10:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35239100)
Not expand as they are already there. In Derry/Londonderry it's the analogue overbuild to give them Digital TV

muppetman11 18-05-2011 11:02
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I really should read the article in full :-)

Felim_Doyle 18-05-2011 11:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undertakereddie (Post 35233133)
I Just Heared That Sky 1 HD Have Got Some Big News They are Going To Reveal it Tomorrow Sometime Found Out On There Facebook Page.
Wow! That was really hard to read in first caps.! :( It may even be worse than all caps.! A bit more punctuation would help too.

carlwaring 18-05-2011 12:15
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Well their last "big news" was just a new season of "Mad Dogs" so I'm not holding my breath ;)

passingbat 18-05-2011 12:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnlouis (Post 35238934)
Why is this a problem? We all get Sky1, don't we? Now, if it was going to Sky Atlantic it would be different.

Yes, we do. But an 'I'm alright Jack' attitude does nothing for freeview customers who previously had this (and other similar 'pinched') shows.

There's a principle here in my view; because of the vast amounts of money sky has, they can take just about any show they want, when smaller channels have taken the risk with the initial commisioning. Sky should be ashamed of themselves for such tactics IMHO.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35238919)
I can see your point , however this will always happen , don't forget Sky takes risks with shows as well.
And well done to them and if any other channel tried to pinch a show sky took the risk on, i'd be just as critical of that channel. Not going to happen in reality, but the principle is there.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35238954)
Nicking is a bit harsh of a word , don't forget they've paid big money , Channel 4 had the chance to up their offer.

Agains sky's masses of money. Surely, you are joking!? Nicking is the right word in my view.

muppetman11 18-05-2011 13:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35239156)
Yes, we do. But an 'I'm alright Jack' attitude does nothing for freeview customers who previously had this (and other similar 'pinched') shows.

There's a principle here in my view; because of the vast amounts of money sky has, they can take just about any show they want, when smaller channels have taken the risk with the initial commisioning. Sky should be ashamed of themselves for such tactics IMHO.

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And well done to them and if any other channel tried to pinch a show sky took the risk on, i'd be just as critical of that channel. Not going to happen in reality, but the principle is there.

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Agains sky's masses of money. Surely, you are joking!? Nicking is the right word in my view.
The vast amounts of money they have made through massive initial outlays , don't forget when Sky started out they were losing money hand over fist. You speak like VM don't do anything wrong , can you tell me how I can view Film Four HD on my Sky box ? VM also never made Living HD available on Sky until Sky bought the channel.

passingbat 18-05-2011 13:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35239167)
The vast amounts of money they have made through massive initial outlays , don't forget when Sky started out they were losing money hand over fist. You speak like VM don't do anything wrong , can you tell me how I can view Film Four HD on my Sky box ? VM also never made Living HD available on Sky until Sky bought the channel.
How has anything in my post got anything to do with VM?

sky is in the process of pinching a show from a freeview broadcaster. A show they didn't initially take a risk on and they are able to do it because they can weild their massive pot of money arround.

You should ask Sky why they haven't got film 4 HD. I don't know the reasons why Sky didn't get living HD from virgin; if VM were at fault, I'd critisize them.

but we know why Glee is going from C4 --- moneybags Sky who have zero principles in this area.

Media Boy UK 18-05-2011 13:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35239183)
How has anything in my post got anything to do with VM?

sky is in the process of pinching a show from a freeview broadcaster. A show they didn't initially take a risk on and they are able to do it because they can weild their massive pot of money arround.

You should ask Sky why they haven't got film 4 HD. I don't know the reasons why Sky didn't get living HD from virgin; if VM were at fault, I'd critisize them.

but we know why Glee is going from C4 --- moneybags Sky who have zero principles in this area.

I have been thinking maybe Sky will put ''Glee'' on
Spoiler: 
Sky Arts1:D

alwaysabear 18-05-2011 13:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35239156)
Yes, we do. But an 'I'm alright Jack' attitude does nothing for freeview customers who previously had this (and other similar 'pinched') shows.

There's a principle here in my view; because of the vast amounts of money sky has, they can take just about any show they want, when smaller channels have taken the risk with the initial commisioning. Sky should be ashamed of themselves for such tactics IMHO.

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And well done to them and if any other channel tried to pinch a show sky took the risk on, i'd be just as critical of that channel. Not going to happen in reality, but the principle is there.

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Agains sky's masses of money. Surely, you are joking!? Nicking is the right word in my view.
Sky have always poached good shows from terrestrial TV if they are a success.

The problem is all these studios or production company's are interested in is making as much money as possible from their investment and will obviously take the big offers that Sky is able to make.
The only way TV company's in this country can get around this is to produce their own quality content and sell it to the US. Which we should all be in favour of.:D

muppetman11 18-05-2011 14:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35239183)
How has anything in my post got anything to do with VM?

sky is in the process of pinching a show from a freeview broadcaster. A show they didn't initially take a risk on and they are able to do it because they can weild their massive pot of money arround.

You should ask Sky why they haven't got film 4 HD. I don't know the reasons why Sky didn't get living HD from virgin; if VM were at fault, I'd critisize them.

but we know why Glee is going from C4 --- moneybags Sky who have zero principles in this area.
I take it you have no understanding of business , I'm not arsed whether its right or wrong its happened , as mentioned the studios are greedy as well. I mentioned VM because you constantly bang on about Sky and how there always in the wrong , I'll make it simple THEY ARE A BUSINESS .

Maggy 18-05-2011 14:05
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It's only TV you know and not worth getting worked up about..Let's play nicely please.

passingbat 18-05-2011 14:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35239205)
I take it you have no understanding of business , I'm not arsed whether its right or wrong its happened , as mentioned the studios are greedy as well. I mentioned VM because you constantly bang on about Sky and how there always in the wrong , I'll make it simple THEY ARE A BUSINESS .

I understand Buisinnes and I understand fairness. And if I see busines practices stampping all over fairness, I have the right to speak out about it (wheather it's Sky or the studios, and yes, the studios do deserve critisism)


You and me are fortunate in that we can afford pay TV; but we shouldn't forget those who are limited to freeview when moneybags Sky goes on the aquisitions prowl.

alwaysabear 18-05-2011 14:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35239215)
I understand Buisinnes and I understand fairness. And if I see busines practices stampping all over fairness, I have the right to speak out about it (wheather it's Sky or the studios, and yes, the studios do deserve critisism)


You and me are fortunate in that we can afford pay TV; but we shouldn't forget those who are limited to freeview when moneybags Sky goes on the aquisitions prowl.
As much as you and I may not like what Sky is able to do, in the real world money talks.:(

passingbat 18-05-2011 14:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35239223)
As much as you and I may not like what Sky is able to do, in the real world money talks.:(
Can't we Nationalise sky? Oops, wrong goverment! :D

pk1 18-05-2011 14:34
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I thought this thread was about what channels were coming soon to Virgin not just programmes or have i got it wrong?

Not about how much money Sky throw at programmes when they realise they missed out on buying rights to a show, and they saw how popular it is, as with 24 and Lost.

muppetman11 18-05-2011 14:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35239223)
As much as you and I may not like what Sky is able to do, in the real world money talks.:(
Maybe its the whole acquisition of rights procedure what's wrong .

passingbat 18-05-2011 14:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pk1 (Post 35239228)
I thought this thread was about what channels were coming soon to Virgin not just programmes or have i got it wrong?

Not about how much money Sky throw at programmes when they realise they missed out on buying rights to a show, and they saw how popular it is, as with 24 and Lost.
In the absence of anything coming soon, it seems to get broadened out a bit.

When things do start coming, I'm sure it will be back on topic.

alwaysabear 18-05-2011 14:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35239237)
Maybe its the whole acquisition of rights procedure what's wrong .
I think that the procedure for the acquisition of rights needs amending.

Media Boy UK 18-05-2011 14:49
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Information for viewers in the Leicester area.

Midland Asian TV (MATV) will close on Virgin Media Channel 823 tomorrow at 6am.

carlwaring 18-05-2011 14:50
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The other problem with Sky is that they tend to purchase both the PayTV rights and the FTA rights; which would be great but then they don't ever actually use the FTA rights by showing the programme on, say, PickTV the following year.

Therefore, for example, "Glee" will never been seen on FTA TV ever again.

So it's not like the fans of the show who can't get Sky will ever actually get a chance to see the show, even if it was next year.

passingbat 18-05-2011 14:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35239237)
Maybe its the whole acquisition of rights procedure what's wrong .
Definitely need looking at, just as VOD for film rights are being looked at.

Content delivery has changed so much in the last few years and the rules need updating to reflect this.

undertakereddie 18-05-2011 14:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35239116)
Wow! That was really hard to read in first caps.! :( It may even be worse than all caps.! A bit more punctuation would help too.
This Is Off Topic. Can People Stop Telling Me How To Write I Don't Need Your Help Please go Back on Topic about Whats Coming Soon To Virgin Media This Thread is Not About My Writing!. If People Don't Like What I Write Then Go Some Where Else I Don't Need Some Old Person Telling Me How to Write Thank You. Any more People Comment on How I Write Will Be Added To My Ignore List.

passingbat 18-05-2011 14:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35239249)
The other problem with Sky is that they tend to purchase both the PayTV rights and the FTA rights; which would be great but then they don't ever actually use the FTA rights by showing the programme on, say, PickTV the following year.

Therefore, for example, "Glee" will never been seen on FTA TV ever again.

So it's not like the fans of the show who can't get Sky will ever actually get a chance to see the show, even if it was next year.

Good point Carl. Things like Sons of anarchy first aired on a pay TV channel (Bravo I think) and then, later, got shown on five USA. The first season of Heroes was shown on Syfy and then on BBC.

This doesn't happen with Sky shows. As Sky now own Bravo shows, I gues Freview users won't get to see Sons of anarchy, unless it was part of the original deal.

Yet more evidence of nasty, evil, money grabbing Sky. (That bit just for Muppetman :D)

muppetman11 18-05-2011 15:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35239251)
Definitely need looking at, just as VOD for film rights are being looked at.

Content delivery has changed so much in the last few years and the rules need updating to reflect this.
Yes we will have to see what becomes of these investigations , Sky are in court against OFCOM now over Sky Sports wholesale costs , and I believe VM and BT are there against OFCOM.

clinteastman 18-05-2011 15:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undertakereddie (Post 35239256)
This Is Off Topic. Can People Stop Telling Me How To Write I Don't Need Your Help Please go Back on Topic about Whats Coming Soon To Virgin Media This Thread is Not About My Writing!. If People Don't Like What I Write Then Go Some Where Else I Don't Need Some Old Person Telling Me How to Write Thank You.
Surly it's easier to not capitalise each word wouldn't it?

passingbat 18-05-2011 15:11
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35239260)
Yes we will have to see what becomes of these investigations , Sky are in court against OFCOM now over Sky Sports wholesale costs , and I believe VM and BT are there against OFCOM.

The trouble is, all these things take so long to get sorted out.

Lew 18-05-2011 15:31
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Originally Posted by undertakereddie (Post 35239256)
This Is Off Topic. Can People Stop Telling Me How To Write I Don't Need Your Help Please go Back on Topic about Whats Coming Soon To Virgin Media This Thread is Not About My Writing!. If People Don't Like What I Write Then Go Some Where Else I Don't Need Some Old Person Telling Me How to Write Thank You. Any more People Comment on How I Write Will Be Added To My Ignore List.
OK, now I'm asking you. Please stop doing that. It makes your posts very difficult to read.

muppetman11 18-05-2011 15:34
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35239270)
The trouble is, all these things take so long to get sorted out.
I believe OFCOM v Sky Sports will be in court for around another 6 weeks , the competition commission have set a date in 2012 to complete the movie situation by.

carlwaring 18-05-2011 15:39
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Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35239268)
Surly it's easier to not capitalise each word wouldn't it?
Just what I was thinking :)

undertakereddie 18-05-2011 15:49
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Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35239285)
OK, now I'm asking you. Please stop doing that. It makes your posts very difficult to read.
I Can Read it Is it Because the 1st letters are in Capitols?

clinteastman 18-05-2011 15:53
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Originally Posted by undertakereddie (Post 35239304)
I Can Read it Is it Because the 1st letters are in Capitols?
Pardon? :angel:

denphone 18-05-2011 15:56
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35239156)
Yes, we do. But an 'I'm alright Jack' attitude does nothing for freeview customers who previously had this (and other similar 'pinched') shows.

There's a principle here in my view; because of the vast amounts of money sky has, they can take just about any show they want, when smaller channels have taken the risk with the initial commisioning. Sky should be ashamed of themselves for such tactics IMHO.

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And well done to them and if any other channel tried to pinch a show sky took the risk on, i'd be just as critical of that channel. Not going to happen in reality, but the principle is there.

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Agains sky's masses of money. Surely, you are joking!? Nicking is the right word in my view.
Nothing surprises me with Sky.:(:(

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35239245)
I think that the procedure for the acquisition of rights needs amending.
Yes l agree with that.:(:(

Lew 18-05-2011 15:59
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Originally Posted by undertakereddie (Post 35239304)
I Can Read it Is it Because the 1st letters are in Capitols?
That's exactly why it's difficult to read. Please stop doing it.

undertakereddie 18-05-2011 16:07
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Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35239317)
That's exactly why it's difficult to read. Please stop doing it.
Ok I will but tell others to stop taking the mic out of my writing :mad:. I have moderate learning difficulties and teachers told me to write that way.

muppetman11 18-05-2011 16:25
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35239259)
Good point Carl. Things like Sons of anarchy first aired on a pay TV channel (Bravo I think) and then, later, got shown on five USA. The first season of Heroes was shown on Syfy and then on BBC.

This doesn't happen with Sky shows. As Sky now own Bravo shows, I gues Freview users won't get to see Sons of anarchy, unless it was part of the original deal.

Yet more evidence of nasty, evil, money grabbing Sky. (That bit just for Muppetman :D)
I'm more than happy with their service , as for their business practices speak to Rupe :D I currently enjoy watching quite a few shows on Sky One HD , Sky Atlantic HD and Sky Living HD so they must be doing something right :D

Mobes 18-05-2011 16:56
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I don't give a monkeys if this is off topic. Can some of you STOP taking the pee out of those who aren't the best at spelling, grammer, punctuation etc etc.

This is a MESSAGE BOARD NOT A SCHOOL ROOM!

Simply having the first letter of each work in capitals does NOT make it difficult to read. If it is difficult for YOU to read I suggest it's YOU that has the problem & it doesn't give you me or anyone else the right to take the mick!

denphone 18-05-2011 17:02
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Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35239371)
I don't give a monkeys if this is off topic. Can some of you STOP taking the pee out of those who aren't the best at spelling, grammer, punctuation etc etc.

This is a MESSAGE BOARD NOT A SCHOOL ROOM!

Simply having the first letter of each work in capitals does NOT make it difficult to read. If it is difficult for YOU to read I suggest it's YOU that has the problem & it doesn't give you me or anyone else the right to take the mick!
Yes l agree with you on this and they should get a warning as well because l got a warning for joking and winding people up on this forum so its seems like double standards when some members are taking the mickey out of members who have spelling, grammar and punctuation problems.:(:(:(

devilincarnate 18-05-2011 17:04
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Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35239371)
I don't give a monkeys if this is off topic. Can some of you STOP taking the pee out of those who aren't the best at spelling, grammer, punctuation etc etc.

This is a MESSAGE BOARD NOT A SCHOOL ROOM!

Simply having the first letter of each work in capitals does NOT make it difficult to read. If it is difficult for YOU to read I suggest it's YOU that has the problem & it doesn't give you me or anyone else the right to take the mick!
:clap: It has never bothered me how anybody writes, As my brother has Dyslexia and my son has Autism and is just starting to write ( At 8 YEARS OLD )

undertakereddie 18-05-2011 17:06
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35239381)
Yes l agree with you on this and they should get a warning as well because l got a warning for joking and winding people up on this forum so its seems like double standards when some members are taking the mickey out of members who have spelling, grammar and punctuation problems.:(:(:(
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Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35239371)
I don't give a monkeys if this is off topic. Can some of you STOP taking the pee out of those who aren't the best at spelling, grammer, punctuation etc etc.

This is a MESSAGE BOARD NOT A SCHOOL ROOM!

Simply having the first letter of each work in capitals does NOT make it difficult to read. If it is difficult for YOU to read I suggest it's YOU that has the problem & it doesn't give you me or anyone else the right to take the mick!
Thank you for saying that at least some people agree:).

denphone 18-05-2011 17:06
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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35239385)
:clap: It has never bothered me how anybody writes, As my brother has Dyslexia and my son has Autism and is just starting to write ( At 8 YEARS OLD )
Yes several of my relatives have dyslexia and one has autism.

muppetman11 18-05-2011 17:09
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Originally Posted by undertakereddie (Post 35239386)
Thank you for saying that at least some people agree:).
You keep bringing the coming soon shows mate :)

Stephen 18-05-2011 17:19
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Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35239371)
I don't give a monkeys if this is off topic. Can some of you STOP taking the pee out of those who aren't the best at spelling, grammer, punctuation etc etc.

This is a MESSAGE BOARD NOT A SCHOOL ROOM!

Simply having the first letter of each work in capitals does NOT make it difficult to read. If it is difficult for YOU to read I suggest it's YOU that has the problem & it doesn't give you me or anyone else the right to take the mick!
Mobes, calm down please. No one was taking the pee. A moderator was simply asking for the poster to to post without capital letters for every word.

A simple request that a few other posters agreed with and I also agree that it does make it more difficult to read.

BACK ON TOPIC PLEASE

Henkesghost 18-05-2011 19:16
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Think it's difficult to keep this thread on topic. It's like a thread saying what type of penguin lives in the Sahara? There are none, similar to new stuff coming to Virgin.

Just sayin like;)

denphone 18-05-2011 19:20
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At the moment there is nothing coming soon at all, come on Virgin.

Jameseh 18-05-2011 19:42
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35239552)
At the moment there is nothing coming soon at all, come on Virgin.
What can they add?

denphone 18-05-2011 19:47
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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35239565)
What can they add?
If you look at Media Boy,s threads there are plenty of channels Virgin could have and should have so there are no excuses.:erm::erm::erm:

Jameseh 18-05-2011 19:51
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35239576)
If you look at Media Boy,s threads there are plenty of channels Virgin could have and should have so there are no excuses.:erm::erm::erm:
Apart from rolling out 100MB, new routers and starting up TiVo? Plus the fact channels pay Virgin for carriage unlike Sky who allow any old crap on.

denphone 18-05-2011 19:53
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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35239584)
Apart from rolling out 100MB, new routers and starting up TiVo? Plus the fact channels pay Virgin for carriage unlike Sky who allow any old crap on.
There are plenty of decent channels Sky have that Virgin do not have at the present time.:(:(

muppetman11 18-05-2011 19:58
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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35239584)
Apart from rolling out 100MB, new routers and starting up TiVo? Plus the fact channels pay Virgin for carriage unlike Sky who allow any old crap on.
The same channels many on here have stated they'd like to see ;)

denphone 18-05-2011 20:00
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35239606)
The same channels many on here have stated they'd like to see ;)
Well said my master.:D:D:D:D:D

ncfc1902 18-05-2011 21:00
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I have to admit that I have no idea what "Glee" is, I've never even heard of it!

muppetman11 18-05-2011 21:03
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Originally Posted by ncfc1902 (Post 35239687)
I have to admit that I have no idea what "Glee" is, I've never even heard of it!
Can't see it being your cup of tea , however its quite popular , it's a High School musical for adults :erm:

http://www.e4.com/glee/

denphone 18-05-2011 21:05
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35239693)
Can't see it being your cup of tea , however its quite popular , it's a High School musical for adults :erm:

http://www.e4.com/glee/
Well thats certainly not for me.;)

Hugh 18-05-2011 21:06
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Could I point out to posters the site's Terms & Conditions - link

Specifically Section 3. Forum Use, para 6, where it states

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You agree that you will not......

6. Argue a moderators decision publicly. Any and all complaints directed at a moderating decision should first be addressed to the moderator in question via private message. If the problem can not be resolved, then you should state your position to the webmasters, who will make or change any and/or all final decisions on a democratic basis.

Mobes 18-05-2011 21:32
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I withdraw my remarkes about Glee...shameful.... that Sky have nicked it...

Johnlouis 18-05-2011 23:44
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35239156)
Yes, we do. But an 'I'm alright Jack' attitude does nothing for freeview customers who previously had this (and other similar 'pinched') shows.
It wasn't my intention to come across with that attitude. I didn't know Sky1 is not available to all VM customers. In my defence, the news was posted on a Virgin Media forum, so the loss of this to Freeview customers never crossed my mind.

carlwaring 19-05-2011 00:13
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Originally Posted by Johnlouis (Post 35239973)
I didn't know Sky1 is not available to all VM customers.
Actually, with the M+ pack being the lowest one now available, Sky1 is indeed, actually available all. (With the exception of those still on the legacy M pack, of course :))
http://shop.virginmedia.com/digital-tv/channels.html

clinteastman 19-05-2011 10:03
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35239699)
Could I point out to posters the site's Terms & Conditions - link

Specifically Section 3. Forum Use, para 6, where it states
Now to get this clear for me if a mod posts in bold then it's a moderation comment and if not it's their personal comment?

devilincarnate 19-05-2011 10:14
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Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35240187)
Now to get this clear for me if a mod posts in bold then it's a moderation comment and if not it's their personal comment?
Yes that is the way that see it:)

Hugh 19-05-2011 10:33
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Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35240187)
Now to get this clear for me if a mod posts in bold then it's a moderation comment and if not it's their personal comment?
As it states at the bottom of my posts, in the signature line....;)

dilli-theclaw 19-05-2011 11:39
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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35240043)
Actually, with the M+ pack being the lowest one now available, Sky1 is indeed, actually available all. (With the exception of those still on the legacy M pack, of course :))
http://shop.virginmedia.com/digital-tv/channels.html
...and those who still have and use the VM supplied freeview box that offnet supplied :)

carlwaring 19-05-2011 12:09
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...and those who still have and use the VM supplied freeview box that offnet supplied :)
Ahh yes. I remember that. What a nice, neat little box it was. Such a pity they stopped supplying it :(

dilli-theclaw 19-05-2011 12:16
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Yup, still got mine and it's still ok :)

carlwaring 19-05-2011 12:20
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For those who have no idea what we're on about it was a Freeview box that was about the size of an old VHS video which could be hooked onto the back of your TV!

muppetman11 19-05-2011 12:38
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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35239085)
Reported as Sky1. And, as I said before, far more people have access to E4 than Sky1.

According to the latest BARB (May 2 - May 8) figures, "Glee" was E4's #1 show with 1.9m viewers. Sky1's #1 show in the same week was "Hawaii Five-0 with just 843k.

Okay, that's actually more than the rest of E4's Top Ten, which does blunt my point slightly, I suppose :o::p:

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Oh absolutely. But they're still a near-enough monopoly to worry about :)
Them figures are correct however I don't believe they take into account how many watched the shows via On Demand or via online services like Sky Player. Live viewing figures don't tell the true story these days.

passingbat 19-05-2011 12:42
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35239693)
Can't see it being your cup of tea , however its quite popular , it's a High School musical for adults :erm:

http://www.e4.com/glee/
For me, it's a 'sort of OK' watch.

I find the best bit is the politically incorrect, vengefull dialogue from the Sue Sylvester character and it suffers when she doesn't get much time in an episode. Though their cover versions of Fleetwood Mac's Rumours album on this weeks episode were excellent.

Also, shows the benefit of 5.1 audio,

clinteastman 19-05-2011 12:49
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35240257)
Them figures are correct however I don't believe they take into account how many watched the shows via On Demand or via online services like Sky Player. Live viewing figures don't tell the true story these days.
That's very true and at a guess I would say 4OD gets more trafic that Sky Player.

muppetman11 19-05-2011 13:01
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Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35240266)
That's very true and at a guess I would say 4OD gets more trafic that Sky Player.
Defo , I was merely meaning both shows probably had considerably more views.

carlwaring 19-05-2011 13:05
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35240257)
Live viewing figures don't tell the true story these days.
Another valid point :)

clinteastman 19-05-2011 13:57
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35240273)
Defo , I was merely meaning both shows probably had considerably more views.
Agreed, viewing figures would be a lot more helpful if it was a total views and not a extrapolation from a small sample group as it is now.

RichardCoulter 19-05-2011 15:00
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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35236740)
And my eyesight is such that I'm sure I could not watch anything in 3D anyway.
I never thought of the fact that people who wear glasses can't use 3D because they would have to take them off to put on the 3D glasses.

Perhaps they could use something similar to what dentists use to protect the glasses of their customers whilst undergoing treatment?

Maggy 19-05-2011 15:37
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35207846)
That was on the home page here back in April..

Stephen 19-05-2011 16:23
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35240340)
I never thought of the fact that people who wear glasses can't use 3D because they would have to take them off to put on the 3D glasses.

Perhaps they could use something similar to what dentists use to protect the glasses of their customers whilst undergoing treatment?
Of course people that wear glasses can still wear 3D glasses. They are large enough to be worn over normal glasses.

Peter_ 19-05-2011 16:25
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35240340)
I never thought of the fact that people who wear glasses can't use 3D because they would have to take them off to put on the 3D glasses.

Perhaps they could use something similar to what dentists use to protect the glasses of their customers whilst undergoing treatment?
When I go the cinema the 3D glasses fit comfortably over my frames.

JMcB 19-05-2011 20:21
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35240416)
Of course people that wear glasses can still wear 3D glasses. They are large enough to be worn over normal glasses.
The 3d Glasses fit over my normal glasses NP

I just dont like 3d as it hurts my eyes:td::td:

denphone 19-05-2011 20:24
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Originally Posted by JMcB (Post 35240731)
The 3d Glasses fit over my normal glasses NP

I just dont like 3d as it hurts my eyes:td::td:
l am not interested in it because l believe it to be a fashionable fad that will pass in time.:erm::erm:


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